Thank you for including (verifying) that the B210 battery(s) do in fact connect and function properly with the AC200Max (with the adapter cable). Your knowledge, reliability and expertise are invaluable!
Jeff's reviews are my favorite. Love his detail and insight. Thank you Jeff. At the end he made a chart of which battery combos work w/ each head unit. Extremely hel pful!
At 42:00 I make full use of the extra solar inputs, because 3000W into the AC500 just isn't enough. We only have some 7 hours on average to recharge 6 B300s batteries. I think a lot of people don't realize you can add more panels to these extra inputs. I'm powering 2 window A/Cs instead of my rooftop 240V HVAC, to reduce my electric bill to $80/mo instead of the usual $250-$300 per month (It's Las Vegas). In winter I have 2 electric heaters that use as much power as the A/Cs. But as I since discovered the heat output from the AC500 is a lot, so I don't always have to plug in the heaters. I've found plenty of smaller panels on my local Craigslist or on sale on Amazon. They are propped up against my south-facing back block wall and they really come in handy on cloudy/rainy days when my 2 main 1500W arrays are coming up short. You DO need a lot of wire to hook them all up though. I ran 6 pairs of wires through a pvc pipe from the house to the wall, then buried it so it's somewhat tidy.
Thank you Jeff. Excellent in depth review. I always look forward to your reviews on new and existing products. I look forward to your extended testing on most of these units.
Great review, always detailed and the charts are excellent. I thought sound levels are typically taken at 3 feet, is your meter compensating for distance?
I have the AC200 MAX and I am VERY happy that BLUETTI has chosen to continue supporting it wit add-on batteries having the proper firmware/software. I'll likely get the B300K. I use an Off Grid TREK 220 watt solar "blanket" to charge my AC200 MAX for car camping. For household emergency use I think with AC200 MAX an B300K combination would be enough to power 2 refrigerators and a small flat screen TV. THE THING MANY PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND IN USING THESE BATTERIES: You must UNPLUG all other little "power vampires" around the house to maximize batteries for essentials. i.e constant-on night lights, many power strips, etc.
Help! I have the AC200L and the B230 expansion battery. A couple days ago I bought the B300K expansion battery and it works great. To be clear, I can NOT add the B230 expansion battery to the B300K, is that correct? Don't want to screw my system if I try and add them all together. Thanks!!!
I noted your comments about keeping battery symmetry when operating two AC500's in split-phase mode. I've got one AC300 with a B300 battery, and I'm interested in adding another AC300 to operate in SP mode. But since B300's are no longer available and I only have one, battery symmetry incorporating the B300 isn't possible. Do you have any feeling just how important battery symmetry is in SP operation?
It looks like an "L-bracket" of some sort would let you mount it in lots of interesting ways. Does the manual specify how much load the bolt holes can handle? I wonder if you could use those bolt holes to mount the battery unit to a wall and then stack an AC200Max or an AC200L on top of it? I would imagine an AC300 or AC500 (given that they don't have their own internal battery) would be fine. @7:15
Scratch that, it looks like you wouldn't even be able to stack them on top anyways because the cables don't reach, I hadn't gotten to that point of the video yet. I do wonder if you could get a right angle adapter to plug off of both units and if that would give you enough length to do it.
Thanks for video, I have one more question- doesAC200MAX is compatible with B300S ? I’m pretty sure they are, but still could you please double check compatibility?
When using 2 B300 batteries with the AC300 Bluettie does not recommend adding one B300 at time, but rather if using 2. Do you know is it the same with this new tech mix and match of the B300K. Can you add just one when already using 2 B300's best to use 2 B300K's same as with B300? And did they tell you if it is still possible to connect the two heads to get split phase 240V when using 2 AC300 inverters, one with 2 B300ks and 1 with the older 2 B300
If the BMS were to have an error, how would the user know this ? Does the B300k have any way of directly interfacing with the app to be able to view any errors that may occur ? Or would the B300k have to be plugged into a head unit of one of the Bluetti Powerstations and the BMS error information would have to be accessed through the head unit (either via on screen display or app) ?
So these units can't be stacked? Will it worked if you have the B300k with the back facing out? Why the hell did they did they put the battery port on the right side of the B300k? ..Even the new AC 200L has all the connections on the left side so that will have the same problem stacking this battery.
I have the bluetti AC 200 Max with two b 230 batteries for a couple of years now. Works pretty well with a couple of problems. Problem number one the Bluetooth only works part of the time. I have to reboot the entire system to get it to work again and then it fails after a few hours. Second problem is that I can no longer turn on AC output through the touch screen. Clicking AC on does nothing on the touch screen. I can only turn it on through Bluetooth which comes like I said, only works part of the time. If Bluetooth fails the system will be dead in the water. I contacted customer service and their recommendation was to ship it back to them and they would " take a look ". As long ago disposed of my boxes and have no packaging in which to ship the unit back so I'm living with The issues for now.
My AC200MAX had the same touch screen problem, contacted them through Facebook, had a new firmware within a day or two and a working AC200MAX once it was installed.
Very Informative video thank you. I agree that Bluetti needed to find a way to reduce the price of the expansion batteries so in that way this could be good news. It is a shame because Bluetti had the best expansion batteries with the most independence from head units and now this is just a dumb expansion battery like Ecoflow batteries. The better expansion batteries were a main reason I chose Bluetti. As the cables already exist for this interface there would be no cable development costs for power bank mode which makes me think they have decided to save money on the circuitry or that these are going to be very competitively priced, and they only want to sell them to people who own head units and not for people who want to use them as power banks. I think they missed an opportunity to not have better compatibility out of the box with different power stations and any battery being released now should support their existing and planned balcony system which this doesn’t seem to. This battery should be cable less and you choose the cable at time of order because it is ridiculous to buy this for an AC500 and then have a redundant cable and need to spend an additional £100 on a compatible cable.
I believe the goal here is for Bluetti to phase out all most all of thier batteries except for this one ...that's why all units can use this battery. What concerns me is the 300k is basically a black box. It can't be tested directly ..only a power station can connect to it. If there is a performance drop off with next years 300k's ...how could you tell?.
Great review. I might have missed it, but I do not think you mentioned if it has a built in heater for the battery or not. I want to say the b300s has one. If I was going to get a ac300 or ac500 I would probably go with these batteries based on the fact they are supposed to be cheaper.
I had to laugh a bit at minute 5:01 "there are five lights"... Because it reminded me of the question of an interrogater who asked his prisoner:"How many lights do see?" And the answer should be five , although there are only four lights visible...who recognize this scene?😊 😊
If it is connected to the main unit, you can still charge it through the main unit. If your main unit is dead/faulty, then that is a larger issue than not being able to charge the B300K independently.
I have a 200AC max and two AC300 head units so all three would have to fail for me in order to not be able to charge the battery. You do make a legit point however. Maybe if you only have one head unit you buy the older batteries that can be charged individually.
Always the most detailed information about Bluetti products!
Good to see you here, Jasonoid! Both of you provide excellent videos about Bluetti products! You doing a B300k video as well?
@@i_LOVE_solar I'm planning to have a B300k video out on Friday actually!
Thank you for including (verifying) that the B210 battery(s) do in fact connect and function properly with the AC200Max (with the adapter cable). Your knowledge, reliability and expertise are invaluable!
Excellent review, Jeff! Thanks for checking the B230 + B300K - AC200 MAX configuration.
I like that Bluetti supports the older generators.
Jeff's reviews are my favorite. Love his detail and insight. Thank you Jeff. At the end he made a chart of which battery combos work w/ each head unit. Extremely hel pful!
Thank you for your time to put this together Jeff
At 42:00 I make full use of the extra solar inputs, because 3000W into the AC500 just isn't enough. We only have some 7 hours on average to recharge 6 B300s batteries. I think a lot of people don't realize you can add more panels to these extra inputs. I'm powering 2 window A/Cs instead of my rooftop 240V HVAC, to reduce my electric bill to $80/mo instead of the usual $250-$300 per month (It's Las Vegas). In winter I have 2 electric heaters that use as much power as the A/Cs. But as I since discovered the heat output from the AC500 is a lot, so I don't always have to plug in the heaters.
I've found plenty of smaller panels on my local Craigslist or on sale on Amazon. They are propped up against my south-facing back block wall and they really come in handy on cloudy/rainy days when my 2 main 1500W arrays are coming up short. You DO need a lot of wire to hook them all up though. I ran 6 pairs of wires through a pvc pipe from the house to the wall, then buried it so it's somewhat tidy.
You are the only one I fully trust when I am looking at new products. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and expertise.
Fantastic review. 👌👌
I'm definitely looking forward to getting one!
Thanks 🤗
Thank you Jeff. Excellent in depth review. I always look forward to your reviews on new and existing products. I look forward to your extended testing on most of these units.
Thanks Jeff ! I find myself always looking for your videos before I make a purchase.
Great video and very informative!
Great review, always detailed and the charts are excellent.
I thought sound levels are typically taken at 3 feet, is your meter compensating for distance?
Thank you, Jeff!!!
Thank you!! another great ...to the point video!
I have the AC200 MAX and I am VERY happy that BLUETTI has chosen to continue supporting it wit add-on batteries having the proper firmware/software. I'll likely get the B300K.
I use an Off Grid TREK 220 watt solar "blanket" to charge my AC200 MAX for car camping. For household emergency use I think with AC200 MAX an B300K combination would be enough to power 2 refrigerators and a small flat screen TV.
THE THING MANY PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND IN USING THESE BATTERIES: You must UNPLUG all other little "power vampires" around the house to maximize batteries for essentials. i.e constant-on night lights, many power strips, etc.
Help! I have the AC200L and the B230 expansion battery. A couple days ago I bought the B300K expansion battery and it works great. To be clear, I can NOT add the B230 expansion battery to the B300K, is that correct? Don't want to screw my system if I try and add them all together. Thanks!!!
Can you mix it with the AC200L that is already connected to a B210 expansion battery?
I luv my AC200Max!
I noted your comments about keeping battery symmetry when operating two AC500's in split-phase mode. I've got one AC300 with a B300 battery, and I'm interested in adding another AC300 to operate in SP mode. But since B300's are no longer available and I only have one, battery symmetry incorporating the B300 isn't possible. Do you have any feeling just how important battery symmetry is in SP operation?
Thank you for a great video!
Can you mix it with the AC200L that is already connected to a B210 expansion battery?
It looks like an "L-bracket" of some sort would let you mount it in lots of interesting ways.
Does the manual specify how much load the bolt holes can handle?
I wonder if you could use those bolt holes to mount the battery unit to a wall and then stack an AC200Max or an AC200L on top of it?
I would imagine an AC300 or AC500 (given that they don't have their own internal battery) would be fine.
@7:15
Scratch that, it looks like you wouldn't even be able to stack them on top anyways because the cables don't reach, I hadn't gotten to that point of the video yet.
I do wonder if you could get a right angle adapter to plug off of both units and if that would give you enough length to do it.
Thanks for video, I have one more question- doesAC200MAX is compatible with B300S ?
I’m pretty sure they are, but still could you please double check compatibility?
If my ac 180 says it is at 99% but shows 690 watts of grid power still going in should i just wait until it gets to 100%?
Will this battery work with an AC240 power pack
When using 2 B300 batteries with the AC300 Bluettie does not recommend adding one B300 at time, but rather if using 2. Do you know is it the same with this new tech mix and match of the B300K. Can you add just one when already using 2 B300's best to use 2 B300K's same as with B300? And did they tell you if it is still possible to connect the two heads to get split phase 240V when using 2 AC300 inverters, one with 2 B300ks and 1 with the older 2 B300
If the BMS were to have an error, how would the user know this ? Does the B300k have any way of directly interfacing with the app to be able to view any errors that may occur ? Or would the B300k have to be plugged into a head unit of one of the Bluetti Powerstations and the BMS error information would have to be accessed through the head unit (either via on screen display or app) ?
Very happy that the B300K can expand capacity with the B230. I thought it was not possible. I just wish you could use both of them with the AC200L.
Can you mix it with the AC200L that is already connected to a B210 expansion battery?
So these units can't be stacked? Will it worked if you have the B300k with the back facing out? Why the hell did they did they put the battery port on the right side of the B300k? ..Even the new AC 200L has all the connections on the left side so that will have the same problem stacking this battery.
I have the bluetti AC 200 Max with two b 230 batteries for a couple of years now. Works pretty well with a couple of problems. Problem number one the Bluetooth only works part of the time. I have to reboot the entire system to get it to work again and then it fails after a few hours. Second problem is that I can no longer turn on AC output through the touch screen. Clicking AC on does nothing on the touch screen. I can only turn it on through Bluetooth which comes like I said, only works part of the time. If Bluetooth fails the system will be dead in the water. I contacted customer service and their recommendation was to ship it back to them and they would " take a look ". As long ago disposed of my boxes and have no packaging in which to ship the unit back so I'm living with The issues for now.
My AC200MAX had the same touch screen problem, contacted them through Facebook, had a new firmware within a day or two and a working AC200MAX once it was installed.
Very Informative video thank you.
I agree that Bluetti needed to find a way to reduce the price of the expansion batteries so in that way this could be good news. It is a shame because Bluetti had the best expansion batteries with the most independence from head units and now this is just a dumb expansion battery like Ecoflow batteries. The better expansion batteries were a main reason I chose Bluetti.
As the cables already exist for this interface there would be no cable development costs for power bank mode which makes me think they have decided to save money on the circuitry or that these are going to be very competitively priced, and they only want to sell them to people who own head units and not for people who want to use them as power banks.
I think they missed an opportunity to not have better compatibility out of the box with different power stations and any battery being released now should support their existing and planned balcony system which this doesn’t seem to. This battery should be cable less and you choose the cable at time of order because it is ridiculous to buy this for an AC500 and then have a redundant cable and need to spend an additional £100 on a compatible cable.
I believe the goal here is for Bluetti to phase out all most all of thier batteries except for this one ...that's why all units can use this battery.
What concerns me is the 300k is basically a black box. It can't be tested directly ..only a power station can connect to it.
If there is a performance drop off with next years 300k's ...how could you tell?.
Prismatic, finally!
The 12W USBA kinda let it down - 150/200W USBC would have been better, Others have it so it's not impossible to do
I bought the B230 1 week before they released the B300k 🤦🏻♂
9th!
Great video!
Great review. I might have missed it, but I do not think you mentioned if it has a built in heater for the battery or not. I want to say the b300s has one. If I was going to get a ac300 or ac500 I would probably go with these batteries based on the fact they are supposed to be cheaper.
B300S has the heater. B300K does not have the heater.
First.
I had to laugh a bit at minute 5:01 "there are five lights"... Because it reminded me of the question of an interrogater who asked his prisoner:"How many lights do see?" And the answer should be five , although there are only four lights visible...who recognize this scene?😊 😊
No way to charge it when the main unit goes down. So you are stuck with a paper weight. This is a huge issue at this price point.
If it is connected to the main unit, you can still charge it through the main unit. If your main unit is dead/faulty, then that is a larger issue than not being able to charge the B300K independently.
I have a 200AC max and two AC300 head units so all three would have to fail for me in order to not be able to charge the battery. You do make a legit point however. Maybe if you only have one head unit you buy the older batteries that can be charged individually.
They have-not fixed this error I just sent this shit back
Metric please.