Trace Like an Artist | Procreate Tutorial for Beginners

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  • Опубліковано 8 сер 2024
  • Hi guys,
    In this tutorial, I show you guys how to trace like an artist. Now tracing is considered bad or something an artist shouldn't do and I'm not suggesting you guys to use it every-time you're drawing something. But you can still use it when you're in a haste or just to practice as a beginner.
    I hope you liked it. If you did please give this video a big thumbs up. Also, subscribe :)
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  • @MouseGuardian
    @MouseGuardian 3 роки тому +223

    Amateurs: Tracing is cheating!
    Pros: Use every tool you have available to get the job done, just don't copy images directly or steal ideas and concepts.

    • @RedRobin-cn6jo
      @RedRobin-cn6jo 2 роки тому

      Tracing is cheating

    • @carmenplayz6220
      @carmenplayz6220 2 роки тому +6

      @@RedRobin-cn6jo its not actually unless you give credits :)

    • @mychanneltoletyouknow
      @mychanneltoletyouknow 2 роки тому +1

      steal is wrong and a lot of people agree it's wrong. so today i'm gonna show you how to steal.

    • @Braceletsbykennedy
      @Braceletsbykennedy 2 роки тому +6

      we are all here to learn how to trace, you don't need to keep adding disclamers about tracing art is art and u souldn'n care what other people think.

    • @bender6261
      @bender6261 2 роки тому +2

      Let's see if you feel this way when someone traces over your original work and claim it's theirs 😆

  • @amandah.2202
    @amandah.2202 3 роки тому +253

    There is nothing wrong with tracing the outcome is what matters and it teaches you

  • @BoMiles
    @BoMiles 3 роки тому +161

    I learned a lot from this video, but you shouldn’t care what other artist think! You DONT need disclaimers!

    • @coolapps2238
      @coolapps2238 3 роки тому +8

      I only trace because it teach you how to draw and learn the motion and then you wont need to trace

  • @Artchick1972
    @Artchick1972 3 роки тому +132

    Tracing is a tool. Even the Masters have traced. Nothing wrong with tracing

  • @cubanadelrey
    @cubanadelrey 3 роки тому +161

    we are all here to learn how to trace, you don't need to keep adding disclaimers about tracing 😄 art is art

    • @amandah.2202
      @amandah.2202 3 роки тому +10

      Lol right? The outcome is what matters

    • @drawntofashionillustration9596
      @drawntofashionillustration9596 2 роки тому

      It is NOT art if you trace.

    • @artbymesoma
      @artbymesoma 2 роки тому +7

      @@drawntofashionillustration9596 why isn’t it art ? Some artists centuries ago use to trace . When photographs were starting to be a thing, painters used it to get lots of commissions done quickly & efficiently . that’s why most of the works in the past are realistic looking and their works are in a museum and is still appreciated .

    • @cubanadelrey
      @cubanadelrey 2 роки тому +1

      @@drawntofashionillustration9596 i dont give a shit 🤣

    • @charlottesmom
      @charlottesmom 2 роки тому

      @@drawntofashionillustration9596 , For me that is true, I won't even trace my own art! It just seems so cheaty to me.

  • @aerofrost1
    @aerofrost1 3 роки тому +28

    Tracing is an artform in and of itself. It's no different than using a reference photo. I trace in all of my illustrations (portraits) but I add my own style to them. I use the reference photo directly behind my line art/drawing instead of to the side. I've never been good at drawing but I love illustrations. It's the only way I can make them. I don't feel any less by doing it this way. The outcome is very different than the original photo.

  • @mjw9995
    @mjw9995 3 роки тому +34

    Thanks for the tutorial! I’ve been an artist for over 15 years, and when I was a child, I had the a certain mindset about tracing as if not tracing placed me in an elite group. And yes, not tracing was crucial for my development as an artist. But given my perfectionism, I’m going to try something new and to go ahead and trace my reference now that I’m getting into digital art, just for the sake of time . I care less about the drawing and more about learning the digital tools so I don’t want to waste time getting the drawing “perfect”. At the end of the day, who cares. If someone is really judging someone for tracing, they have a lot of growing up to do.

    • @drawntofashionillustration9596
      @drawntofashionillustration9596 3 роки тому

      I disagree. If I am the owner of the image, I definitely mind.

    • @TheKombatBegings
      @TheKombatBegings 3 роки тому +1

      @@drawntofashionillustration9596 w
      Well, that's the thing. Tracing itself is not bad, its a process for learning and having fun. But I agree that when it reaches a professional stand point, you either have to own the material, or ask for permission of the original artist and credit them.

  • @ccmassis
    @ccmassis 3 роки тому +70

    Tracing is just another technique to achieve a goal. If this is not the case, the you should stretch your own canvas, make your own paints and brushes. IMHO.

  • @mariahtyner9501
    @mariahtyner9501 3 роки тому +40

    I don’t think tracing is cheating if you’re using it as a guide like you did, if someone gives your permission to trace their photo, or if it’s an original photo that you’re wanting to turn into a painting.

    • @drawntofashionillustration9596
      @drawntofashionillustration9596 3 роки тому

      Is it YOUR original photo? Then yes. Otherwise you have stolen someone's idea.

    • @artbymesoma
      @artbymesoma 2 роки тому +4

      @@drawntofashionillustration9596 how about when you paint a dress that you didn’t make? , that means you’ve stolen the fashion designers idea and painted the dress without asking for his/her permission isn’t it ?

    • @drawntofashionillustration9596
      @drawntofashionillustration9596 2 роки тому

      @@artbymesoma Duh, the dress is not a photo. How do you explain a hundred years of fashion illustration? Of course the artist does not own the designer’s idea. I am paid by the designer to draw their dress, so I am GRANTED permission by the designer. I do not copy or trace the photo of the dress which was taken by a photographer. I draw from life or from my imagination. You guys should try it. Watch the life story of Antonio Lopez and you will see he had the talent and skill through life drawing to become the best of the best.

    • @alisaspear3382
      @alisaspear3382 2 роки тому +2

      @@drawntofashionillustration9596 that's such a stretch. You don't have to steal the concept to trace the form. If nobody can tell you traced because your concept is origina is it hurting anyone? No.

  • @artbymesoma
    @artbymesoma 2 роки тому +9

    Some artists (centuries ago) use to trace . When photographs were starting to be a thing, painters used it to get lots of commissions done quickly & efficiently . that’s why most of the works in the past are realistic looking and their works are in a museum and is still appreciated . Tracing isn’t bad as long as you make it your own or give credit to the artist you got the idea from .

    • @judilynn9569
      @judilynn9569 2 роки тому +1

      They traced the basic form. They still had to use their skills to fill in the details. Tracing was for placement and proportion.

    • @alisaspear3382
      @alisaspear3382 2 роки тому

      Believe it for not, most of that old art is actually not realism, but were portraiture done in a stylized way depending on the period. It's not that they couldnt paint with immense detail, they weren't going for photo realism. That being said the pieces were created with great technical skill. The light, color and atmosphere of a painting still comes across as "real looking," masterfully rendered, and original.

    • @moorpreciousthanrubiez
      @moorpreciousthanrubiez Рік тому

      @@judilynn9569 regardless…they traced.

  • @taejinbin12
    @taejinbin12 3 роки тому +18

    Tracing was taught in my college while taking my course in arts its not bad tho?? Its a technique/tool

  • @PunitChawla
    @PunitChawla 4 роки тому +20

    One of your best works ever! Also, I love the thumbnail. I'm proud of you babe

    • @Shikarte
      @Shikarte  4 роки тому +1

      Punit Chawla Thank you so so much ❤️🥰

  • @melplayz90
    @melplayz90 3 роки тому +5

    I find it incredibly difficult to draw, I'm a beginner and still find it hard to grasp the concept of everything digital and physical art so tracing would help until I can do it without the need for tracing as I get easily distracted and forget what I've learned. Thank you for this video it helps a lot.

  • @vegaspowerlifting
    @vegaspowerlifting 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you, I use drawing as part of my dealing with PTSD and my son is an artist and recommended this program and not learned how to use, but a great way to get better as an artist.

  • @cyndeehorn7079
    @cyndeehorn7079 3 роки тому +6

    Tracing is a TOOL! You go girl! Great job BTW!

    • @donnapirnat5313
      @donnapirnat5313 Рік тому

      Yes! Thank you for that. It's like using training wheels when learning to ride a bike. We don't shame people for that...
      Practicing drawing develops muscle memory. Tracing gives you confidence to do the practicing without being so hypercritical of yourself.
      I think as long as you're transparent with people about your methods and sources, you shouldn't have to apologize for making beautiful things.

  • @juleswc
    @juleswc 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you for sharing. This is a terrific learning tool!

  • @celestialbomb0998
    @celestialbomb0998 3 роки тому +5

    Omg Thank you so much! I just got this app earlier today and I have been screaming at my phone for like and hour 😅. This helped so much! Thank you for putting this out there! And good luck on future art work.

    • @Shikarte
      @Shikarte  3 роки тому

      Lol 😄
      I'm glad it helped you.

  • @DanielZamarripa
    @DanielZamarripa 3 роки тому +13

    The contradictions in this video are killing me 😂

  • @user-rt2zq4jv8x
    @user-rt2zq4jv8x Рік тому

    Best tracing video on UA-cam.

  • @tonikenner9093
    @tonikenner9093 3 роки тому +3

    Art is art . Do it anyways you want . I think to many rules just go for it that’s how we learn . Thanks for sharing

  • @avaabbey8354
    @avaabbey8354 3 роки тому

    Super helpful! Thanks

  • @Kheluichollow
    @Kheluichollow 3 роки тому +2

    Art work is cool!
    Tracing is a form of art (AS long as you give credit/don’t claim the art as yours, You could also keep some details in their but just don’t keep the idea the same if you get what I mean) my sister told me to trace a selfie or an image only for reference

  • @Nana-cd6iz
    @Nana-cd6iz 2 роки тому

    I’m glad you said that I feel better. New to it so tracing until I’m advanced enough to draw from memory

  • @your_every_day_artist0
    @your_every_day_artist0 2 роки тому +2

    Ppl on gacha say it’s bad but it helps:]

  • @KaiserintheKitchen
    @KaiserintheKitchen 2 роки тому

    I love tracing, it helped me drawing

  • @asmitaarunkumar3463
    @asmitaarunkumar3463 3 роки тому +2

    Hey!! This was a great video.
    I am in dire need of a similar tutorial for sketchbook.
    Could you make a tracing tutorial for sketchbook too?

    • @samanthawoodall3059
      @samanthawoodall3059 2 роки тому

      Late, but get a lightboard, print the image you want to use and trace over that

  • @theHoneyandAbsinthe
    @theHoneyandAbsinthe 4 роки тому +3

    Pretty! I like how you changed the shape

    • @Shikarte
      @Shikarte  4 роки тому

      I'm glad you liked it 🙌🏻😇

  • @leroach1860
    @leroach1860 4 роки тому +3

    Your channel is literally a gold mine! If you don’t mind can you make a tutorial on how to add skin texture like pores n all of that. My painting always end up being flat :/

    • @Shikarte
      @Shikarte  4 роки тому +2

      Thank you so much 😇🙌🏻
      I do have a video on skin shading, check that out. Also, I have a video on best skin brushes. They are actually really good for adding skin texture.

  • @musabtawil6743
    @musabtawil6743 3 роки тому

    I learned alot with this video

  • @patricialk4996
    @patricialk4996 3 роки тому +22

    You admit to tracing. You know that tracing is helpful, heck some of the masters used shadow boxes and traced. But, because you want to be thought of as a "serious" Artist, you shame everyone that traces. Who said that being an Artist means having the ability to draw? I HATE to draw and I don't. An guess what, I do not care what some snobbish so-called Artist thinks as long as my work keeps selling and being loved by others. TRACING is NOT CHEATING or bad. I learned nothing here because you you couuldn't stop talking about tracing being wrong, though that is what the video is about, tracing...

    • @samanthawoodall3059
      @samanthawoodall3059 2 роки тому

      Tracing is wrong if you don't add any of your own artistic touches and just call it yours. But the way she explained it is fine, you just really sound like you're trying to justify plagarizing other peoples work because "its okay if it sells"

  • @Braceletsbykennedy
    @Braceletsbykennedy 2 роки тому +1

    thanks soooo much

  • @user-hp5ew7eg5s
    @user-hp5ew7eg5s 3 роки тому +1

    Lovely tutorial! Also as an English language learner I'm interested in knowing where's the accent come from? Sounds beautiful ❤️

  • @gracejoseph2820
    @gracejoseph2820 6 місяців тому

    Do you have a particular tool or pencil used for sketching? If yes, please what’s its name?

  • @charlene6306
    @charlene6306 3 роки тому +1

    everyone should read this book: Secret Knowledge: Rediscovering the Lost Techniques of the Old Masters, so when gatekeepers want to start talking about tracing, you can direct them to the maasters. and its a bloody good book

  • @AngelClifford-zk4lo
    @AngelClifford-zk4lo 4 роки тому +1

    How do you paint photos

  • @TheKombatBegings
    @TheKombatBegings 3 роки тому +2

    IMO I don't think tracing is bad, it is a process that every artist or person interested in drawing attempts at certain point for learning or having fun. Tracing is just bad just when you try to steal other person's job, or not giving any recognition to that artist.

  • @needatruelove
    @needatruelove 2 роки тому

    I literally didn't learned anything till I see u draw lines on her face nd thn later it was a fast forward nd thn bang ... GG 😂

  • @sharonc7031
    @sharonc7031 Рік тому

    Question: how is it that after your tracing that when you used the transform selection YOUR TRACING HAD A WHITE BACKGROUND, OR THE FINISHED TRACING WAS FILLED IN WITH WHITE. LOOKING AT THE LAYER ITSELF, IT LOOKS TRANSPARENT? I’m fairly new at Procreate. Thank you and great tutorial.

    • @Shikarte
      @Shikarte  Рік тому

      A background in procreate is separate from the layers. My traced sketchlines were in a layer while already having a background layer (filled with white) right at the bottom.

    • @sharonc7031
      @sharonc7031 Рік тому

      @@Shikarte got it. Thanks. Video is the best.

  • @chloe-xe4bg
    @chloe-xe4bg 3 роки тому

    what brush?

  • @johnsharp3987
    @johnsharp3987 10 місяців тому

    I am starting my first graphic novel at age 74. I’m not an accomplished artist, but can crank out pages tracing my own photos.

  • @emie6494
    @emie6494 Рік тому

    as long as you're not tracing the photo pixel by pixel and then claiming it as your own, i don't think it's an issue. anyone that tells you tracing is bad full stop, is wrong. even professionals have and do trace. i think tracing is a useful tool to learn how to draw things like anatomy and proportions if you know how to do it properly and effectively.

  • @tonikenner9093
    @tonikenner9093 2 роки тому

    Trace away good practice.

  • @queennelly8429
    @queennelly8429 3 роки тому

    How to blur image.. ?

  • @doubletrouble6533
    @doubletrouble6533 2 роки тому

    Tracing is still professional art and I learned a
    Ot on this gid

  • @deanhoeta6475
    @deanhoeta6475 2 роки тому

    I luv you hahaha

  • @amberk2254
    @amberk2254 4 роки тому +1

    What brush are you using?

  • @SuperAtDadJokes
    @SuperAtDadJokes 3 роки тому

    i can't find the OPacity on my layer? can someone please explain?

    • @mikamika4496
      @mikamika4496 3 роки тому

      tap the letter "N" on the side of checkbox

  • @emadla12
    @emadla12 Рік тому

    This is wonderful tutorial but you never said what kind of brush you use

  • @sumiko.1319
    @sumiko.1319 3 роки тому +6

    There's no need to hesitate to trace pictures. Although, this doesn't specifically teach you- the outcome and the fun in it is all that matters. Tracing is a part of getting used to art, we have all traced at least once in a while. Keep drawing, fellow future artists! 🤍🌼

  • @rue3284
    @rue3284 3 роки тому +1

    ok so trace but do not trace trace ... got it lol

  • @sunnyday9758
    @sunnyday9758 3 роки тому

    I didn’t see that same drop down when you made the first layer… I was lost at that point.

  • @unstman100
    @unstman100 2 роки тому

    It would help if you told people what programme you are using.

    • @Shikarte
      @Shikarte  2 роки тому +1

      Procreate, mentioned in the title.

  • @shanni77
    @shanni77 3 роки тому +3

    When I create a new layer and try to change the opacity it says empty layer and won’t let me change anything. Any ideas what I’m doing wrong?

    • @thecunttreeside5322
      @thecunttreeside5322 3 роки тому

      you are probably on the wrong layer. like you are not on the layer of the picture/painting

  • @HCMCA1
    @HCMCA1 Рік тому

    Tracing is not a problem in art. There are whole art movements based on tracing eg Photorealism. Art is about IDEAS, *not* technique.

  • @ladyclover884
    @ladyclover884 3 роки тому

    👸

  • @shannaro
    @shannaro 3 роки тому +1

    well technically i draw traditionally then just trace it digitally cuz i suck so bad at digi

  • @stephenalcaide1778
    @stephenalcaide1778 2 роки тому +3

    Very interesting point in this video. It's about using the form of the image as inspiration, rather than a one for one copy. Many interesting variations can be derived from the original image using this technique. Thanks for the lesson!

  • @bronteart
    @bronteart 2 роки тому

    As a Pro I would suggest some art history. Ever heard of Vermeer, he used a camera lucida Any idiot who thinks he 'cheated needs their head read

  • @charlieputhfan850
    @charlieputhfan850 Рік тому

    I’m not an artist lmao nor do I desire to be one ❤ but for fun I always trace lol love it cuz I absolutely cannot draw

  • @hanaabbas5395
    @hanaabbas5395 2 роки тому

    App name pls?

  • @veronikasingh4663
    @veronikasingh4663 2 роки тому

    Nothing wrong with tracing. Some people like sketching with pencil and paper. What's wrong with completing the work electronically?

  • @magicalavakin6275
    @magicalavakin6275 3 роки тому +3

    1:04

  • @oliviacarter7193
    @oliviacarter7193 2 роки тому

    Why is the original photo always crooked. …

  • @sharonc7031
    @sharonc7031 Рік тому

    Oops. I just answered my own question. Thanks.

  • @yeastydynasty
    @yeastydynasty 3 роки тому

    I'm not knocking on this, just trying to understand why an artist would trace? Wouldn't that be considered a cheat?

    • @ari-tzphotographyexplore7461
      @ari-tzphotographyexplore7461 3 роки тому +1

      Is not considered cheating! Lol just enjoy the process thats what is all about not about has the person got to that point!!!!

    • @yeastydynasty
      @yeastydynasty 3 роки тому

      @@ari-tzphotographyexplore7461 So if I were to find a comic book image and bring into procreate and trace it, that’s ok? Wouldn’t be able to show it to anyone or post it online because that is considered stealing.

    • @marshmallow7640
      @marshmallow7640 2 роки тому

      @@yeastydynasty exactly, but of you just trace the pose and make the art your own style then you are referencing and should just give credit to the orginal

  • @berryhomchas
    @berryhomchas 2 роки тому

    When an armchair critic triumphantly discovers that I use tracing: “so you’re cheating!” if they are in person I quietly offer a pencil, tracing paper and reference photo and ask them to do the same…no takers so far!

  • @ulisesdarioortegaluna8798
    @ulisesdarioortegaluna8798 Рік тому

    😂yo dibuje ese mismo dibujo a mano.

  • @xsoxcalxparamourx
    @xsoxcalxparamourx 2 роки тому

    Some of the people in these comments act like famous painters that they look up to didnt use the Camera Obscura method. 🙃

  • @Romdryl
    @Romdryl 2 роки тому

    You definitely do not need to justify using reference material. Those who think it's weakness don't know what they're talking about.

  • @Moodboard39
    @Moodboard39 Рік тому

    But Yeaaa..... Lol

  • @icic5
    @icic5 2 роки тому

    Alot of ppl trace just for proportion. I had a teacher once tell me.who care if you trace the shading and the painting is where you show your work

  • @Bustabubbl
    @Bustabubbl 2 роки тому +1

    My goodness just trace it ! Stop beating around the bush 😩

  • @isjejjdjemdmekkwmskekwkdme4669

    Meanwhile I’m wondering who’s the lady in the thumbnail

  • @solegood
    @solegood 3 роки тому

    What I learned from this video was a whole lot of contradictions 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @Shikarte
      @Shikarte  3 роки тому

      Yeii, you learned something new 😄

    • @solegood
      @solegood 3 роки тому

      @@Shikarte Ms. Petty

  • @RohitYeligeti
    @RohitYeligeti 2 роки тому

    Uff no

  • @HollyBerryBelle73
    @HollyBerryBelle73 2 роки тому

    Why do you spend so much time justifying the fact that you are tracing a picture? It is a good tool to teach people who are learning. No reason to shame anyone who uses this as a good way to practice. Plus if you don’t think tracing is a good idea….why make a tutorial for it?

    • @Shikarte
      @Shikarte  2 роки тому +2

      You didn't really get my point.

  • @blackmore36
    @blackmore36 2 роки тому

    Tracing is ok sometimes but too much blah blah in this video to get to the point… just saying.

  • @Jason5000
    @Jason5000 9 місяців тому

    How annoying... what I learned don't steal and cheat and be a theif by tracing pictures off the internet but I'm going to make a video that shows you how to trace on procreate... thanks

    • @Shikarte
      @Shikarte  9 місяців тому

      Exactly, only mature ones get it.

  • @casper116X
    @casper116X 2 роки тому

    Quit all the sermonizing about whether tracing is right or wrong- I’m taking a course and just trying to get a fast image to learn painting with- jeez!

    • @Shikarte
      @Shikarte  2 роки тому

      If it bothers you than don't watch.

  • @renitasmusic9179
    @renitasmusic9179 2 роки тому

    Too much talking .. please come to point dear..

  • @johnsharp3987
    @johnsharp3987 10 місяців тому

    Interesting and useful but way too long. Take out the caveats and reputation.

  • @Zacq768
    @Zacq768 2 роки тому

    yeesh, too much talking

  • @itschris5699
    @itschris5699 3 роки тому +2

    I need to trace something, it has nothing to do with who drew it, I dont need you to tell me how to grow as an artist.

    • @Shikarte
      @Shikarte  3 роки тому +7

      Then don't watch it.

    • @solegood
      @solegood 3 роки тому

      @@Shikarte why are you so petty with your replies? Must not be able to take constructive criticism from other designers and artists...

    • @gfelle
      @gfelle 3 роки тому

      @@solegood that’s not constructive criticism all the ones she replied to “petty” as you say, they were being rude and she can reply as she feel is necessary. It’s her channel.

    • @gfelle
      @gfelle 3 роки тому

      @@solegood also how is “I don’t need you to tell me how to grow as an artist” constructive?

    • @solegood
      @solegood 3 роки тому

      @@gfelle what are you? Her mom? Lol

  • @stankramer6262
    @stankramer6262 3 роки тому +1

    Don't preach.

  • @meljenkins1016
    @meljenkins1016 3 роки тому +2

    In China they don't call it tracing, they call it copying.

  • @drawntofashionillustration9596
    @drawntofashionillustration9596 3 роки тому +2

    Pros don't trace, only amateurs do. It is not art, it is copying. The whole point of art is to learn how to draw by learning how to SEE what is in front of you, from life. Also, photographs are copyrighted. You are stealing someone's concept, their imagination as to how they set up the lighting, the composition and it is their intellectual property you are stealing and claiming it as your own original work. You must credit your sources or pay for images. Or, get them from creative common sites. Disclaimers do not cover you for theft. The outcome matters if you cheat, you betcha.

    • @TommyTheCollector
      @TommyTheCollector 3 роки тому

      Lots of rules with this one.

    • @yeastydynasty
      @yeastydynasty 3 роки тому

      See thats what I was thinking. I guess if the tracer turns around and tries to pass it off as hand drawn artwork and tries to sell it, that would be bad.

    • @AA-rr9ly
      @AA-rr9ly 2 роки тому

      I agree, tracing is not art. It doesn’t teach you any skill and it makes you lazy.

  • @Spankdass
    @Spankdass 2 місяці тому

    I used to draw caricatures and cartoons years ago and I learned starting out by tracing.

  • @Sunny-iv1sw
    @Sunny-iv1sw 3 роки тому +2

    1:04

  • @CyroEditzz
    @CyroEditzz 2 роки тому

    1:04