What I did to get all materials I needed was a combination of LDS shuffle, Concrete shuffle and asteroid farming. Thats for just basics. Learning how to do a concrete shuffle helped a lot!
Hey, what do you mean by concrete shuffle? I know about the asteroid and LDS idea and talk about it in p4, but the LDS has 300% bonus prod. The concrete recipe can only get up to 150%. Do you just recycle the iron ore till its legendary?
@KonageUA-cam I assume (?) he means producing hazard concrete and then recycling it back. It's very fast but quite wasteful so I'm not sure if it's a good way to farm anything rather than maybe concrete itself.
with some of the new productivity science you could theoretically get more than 300% on something like blue circuits, witch makes the productivity path very good
Yes but it doesn't do anything, the game limits it to 300%. Now if you keep researching above level 13 you can start removing modules I guess but shrug!
What do you mean? Part 2 is mainly theoretical. How can having 400% productivity not be the fastest? What faster method is there? Do you mean yolo recycling ore?
@@mertserimer6928 I fail to see how that gives you a higher throughput. You wouldn't be able to use beacons in the crafting step, so you'd need far more buildings and modules for the same throughput. Maybe I'm missing something but that sounds like its more expensive both in terms of buildings/modules/size and in terms of efficiency of input normal quality ingredients for the same throughput. If you recycled the basic ore, at least that would be a lot simpler, no need for complex blueprints. so it would have that going for it.
@KonageUA-cam everytime u not use quality module, u have zero chance of upscaling it. By the way i am talking for reaching legendary, not middle levels. Whenever u have the chance, always use quality so u can have higher chance of reaching higher levels
@@mertserimer6928 i'd recommend you try it for yourself though. Use the same amount of buildings/modules and track the input ingredients used in an hour and the output legendary items, while being able to also use beacons with speed modules when you use prod modules. And again with productivity you miss out on one chance to upscale without losing the item, but you get multiple chances to upscale at the recycler with 75% loss of the item. At 300% bonus productivity this 75% loss is negated completely.
Second one is far worse. Always apply quality to the specific item at first. Game progression does not quality and ur main base does not need it. U never want to introduce quality stuff in your main bus or base. Do it separately.
This is by far the highest quality quality tutorial I have ever watched
@@Xianm2 hahaha qualityception
What I did to get all materials I needed was a combination of LDS shuffle, Concrete shuffle and asteroid farming. Thats for just basics. Learning how to do a concrete shuffle helped a lot!
Hey, what do you mean by concrete shuffle? I know about the asteroid and LDS idea and talk about it in p4, but the LDS has 300% bonus prod. The concrete recipe can only get up to 150%. Do you just recycle the iron ore till its legendary?
@KonageUA-cam I assume (?) he means producing hazard concrete and then recycling it back. It's very fast but quite wasteful so I'm not sure if it's a good way to farm anything rather than maybe concrete itself.
about an hour in to the series. great job!
Amazing attention to detail and explanation, nicely done
Lots of great info. I'll keep watching.
with some of the new productivity science you could theoretically get more than 300% on something like blue circuits, witch makes the productivity path very good
Yes but it doesn't do anything, the game limits it to 300%. Now if you keep researching above level 13 you can start removing modules I guess but shrug!
Your best way is not the fastest. When go far in the map, resources become abundance so speed beats eventually
What do you mean? Part 2 is mainly theoretical. How can having 400% productivity not be the fastest? What faster method is there? Do you mean yolo recycling ore?
@KonageUA-cam instead productivity u should put quality modules in every step regardless of u waste or not
@@mertserimer6928 I fail to see how that gives you a higher throughput. You wouldn't be able to use beacons in the crafting step, so you'd need far more buildings and modules for the same throughput. Maybe I'm missing something but that sounds like its more expensive both in terms of buildings/modules/size and in terms of efficiency of input normal quality ingredients for the same throughput. If you recycled the basic ore, at least that would be a lot simpler, no need for complex blueprints. so it would have that going for it.
@KonageUA-cam everytime u not use quality module, u have zero chance of upscaling it. By the way i am talking for reaching legendary, not middle levels. Whenever u have the chance, always use quality so u can have higher chance of reaching higher levels
@@mertserimer6928 i'd recommend you try it for yourself though. Use the same amount of buildings/modules and track the input ingredients used in an hour and the output legendary items, while being able to also use beacons with speed modules when you use prod modules.
And again with productivity you miss out on one chance to upscale without losing the item, but you get multiple chances to upscale at the recycler with 75% loss of the item. At 300% bonus productivity this 75% loss is negated completely.
Second one is far worse. Always apply quality to the specific item at first. Game progression does not quality and ur main base does not need it. U never want to introduce quality stuff in your main bus or base. Do it separately.
About 15 min worth of content at most :(
part 1 and 2 are meant for new players too in general. Part 4 is a lot more dense
Not to be rude but get to the point!