This Pokemon Gets "WEAKER" After Evolving
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- Опубліковано 30 бер 2023
- Yes i put weaker in quotes cause i know base stat total doesn't mean stronger, please dont kill me
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If you ever feel useless just remember that Shedinja has defense stats
fr that thing ain't gonna survive any super effective hits anyway unless it has a focus sash which can only work for 1 turn
@@Cobrakys Yes. That is what I mean. every attack will always do at least 1hp of damage provided it's not an immunity. Shedinja has 1 hp, therefore no need for defense
Transform copies every stat except HP, meaning you can potentially have a Shedinja with more than 1 hit point
@@Deathnotefan97but thats just cheese
@@Deathnotefan97also that doesnt do anything to shedinja himself
Actually Shedinja doesn't TECHNICALLY count as nincada's evolution. It's just a byproduct of the evo.
Edit: Lol I was just trying to add to the video not start a riot. Some of you guys need to take a chill pill.
I know the technicalities of it but I still personally count it as an evolution 👍 I can understand your point of view though
The pokemon deluxe essential handbook says it is
@@randomizedbeing9955 One of those handbooks says cascoon is unrelated to wurmple so idk about those.
@@8bitmoe Makes sense to me.
@@fuecOHKO which one, I've only really read the deluxe essential handbook
"Shedinja toughed it out so it's trainer would'nt feel sad!
This is crazy
Affection really is such an overpowered mechanic lol.
Well technically nincada evolves into Ninjask, and Shedninja is a byproduct
Scizor shows how much stat distribution and typing can completely change a Pokémon
Plus abilities and a good move pool
Well it practically became a whole different pokemon
@@gebdemedici well not really abilities. The only difference is Steadfast changing to Light Metal. Both have swarm and technician
I don't play competitively, so I'm often torn about whether or not to evolve a Scyther. STAB moves and 4x weaknesses changing is a lot
Actually it just shows how overpowered steel is as a type lol.
That big stat drop Sheninja has is probably his health as he has just 1 hp alongside a wonder gaurd.
Its defense also drops for the same reason.
@@patchworkgolem i mean do you really need defense if you die in 1 hit anyways?
@@Hewhoroamstheinternet Yah, I was saying that was the reason they dropped it and that it contributed to the overall stat decrease
@@Hewhoroamstheinternet Yes, you could. Shedinja's defense would be used if it was Baton Passed a Substitute.
@@Hewhoroamstheinternet Shedninja is only affected by super effective moves if I remember correctly
Its kinda funny that shedinja can learn absorb and harden
Still love my husk boy
It's funnier that he learns final gambit to do a grand total of 1 damage
Harden could actually be useful with Baton Pass
Shedinja learns Leech Life, not Absorb.
Absorb is funny yeah, harden is there for Baton Pass
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That's most Pokemon nerds.
I’m one of those lucky few 😅
I remember raising a trapinch in the early days thinking I was about to unlock a demigod only to find out his attack drops with vibrava then returns with Flygon.
That happens with a lot of Pokémon that are Bug-type or "bug-like" with a 2nd stage evolution.
yehh..😁
But Vibrava almost ALWAYS went first, amirite?
nah but Dragon type was special before the split and flygon learned special moves like flamethrower etc which makes it good
90 to 70 😂😂
Shedinja-1hp
Also shedinja - has a defence stat
Also Shedinja: naturally learns Harden
Fr
Why does Shedinja needs defence if it only has 1 hp
Translation: Shift
Also translation: Shedinja
@@DJCheese77 huh
@@Pink_sheep34there was a translation button on your comment that turned the first Shedinja into the word shift, but not the second one.
It's the only Pokémon that I can evolve into two different Pokémon at the same time and they're based off the cicadas
Well that obviously makes sense, he's a literal shell of his former self 😂
I always loved that Scizor has the same BST as Scyther, but my favorite thing is that they kept that same philosophy going into Kleavor. 500 BST for everyone!
Scyther line is just immune to power creep ig. I've really grown to love those guys these past few years.
I think it's because you're mainly just giving an armor to a Scyther.
Finally someone brought up kleavor also have the same total as scyther and scizor.
Kleavor feels so underrated in my opinion.
@@ammagon4519 Isn't Black Augurite eaten by Scyther to become Kleavor?
Slap an eviolite on a Scyther now and you're golden
ok deadass i had no idea that scyther, kleavor and scizor all have a 500 BST, i think thats a really interesting way of basically having formes.
Thats the best part of the 3 of them. They also all represent Rock Paper and Scissor. Although Scyther as Paper is a stretch
@@Dino-lv8eowish they made a new Evo called Stretchor for that tbh or a fighting type called Flexor.
@@Dino-lv8eoI don’t remember scissor being able to beat rock in this case though
R.i.p paper I guess 😂
Rock paper scissors
They should reallocate shedinja's def and sp def stats to speed, attack and sp atk
If you're gonna use it, a -def +spd nature is quite good.
@@marhawkman303 I assume you meant +SPE, but no, that's dogshit. Shedinja is too slow to worry about a speed boosting nature. Just use a +ATK nature.
@@William256 sure... that's also a good option.
@@marhawkman303 It's the only option worth using. Boosting a base 40 speed is pointless, especially considering one of the most commonly ran moves on Shedinja is Shadow Sneak. Instead of wasting a nature on it, you could spend just 4 EVs to outspeed opposing Shedinja.
When you showed the blurred picture, I was like: IT’S NINCADA!
🎶WHO'S THAT POKEMON?🎶😂
I actually got this one right because Shedinja has 1 hp. Feels good to figure out something like this without pausing
Shedinja having 1 hp has nothing to do with it's BST though because its base hp of 1 is purely aesthetic. It doesn't actually use its HP base.
@@ZenoDovahkiin It is technically true that its HP stat isn't used to calculate it's HP, but its HP stat is set to 1 so that it makes sense in relation to its 1hp. This means its 1hp trait is indirectly the reason for this lower BST, so saying it has "nothing" to do with it is a bit disingenuous because the BST is affected by its trait of always having 1hp even if that stat isn't directly used since its HP base stat is used when determining the BST.
@@thekilla1234a whole lotta words to end up saying nothing 😂
@@pubplays368they're correct though 😂
@@Umbzardnot entirely
It's a sensible decrease. Considering the fact that Shedinja is merely the husk of Ninjask, it lore-wise makes sense. Competitively, it's equal sensible, since it can be equipped with a focus sash to prevent it from dying on the first turn. It's moveset counts
It also makes sense competitively because the DEFENSE AND SPECIAL DEFENSE STAT ARE LITERALLY USELESS ON THIS THING. Damage is rounded up in Pokemon too, so even if the attack did less than 1 damage mathematically, Shedinja would not survive the hit anyway
@@harrya9458 def and spdef are for impostor, transform and substitute
Honestly they should have given it a better special attack stat than it got. Make the defenses both 1 since they do nothing and increase the speed too.
@@lofifuture-0643 yeah I found that odd too, considering in the anime, it's known to use Shadow Ball. Then again, this is at the time where Ghost type moves are only physical.
@@ammagon4519 Yeah I get your point, but at the same time Shedinja feels like it should be the poster child of glass cannon Pokemon. It's just weird to me that they gave it any stat points for its defenses and didn't really increase anything besides its physical attack.
Fun fact: Shedinja’s hp stat being capped at 1 makes its base hp stat effectively -117. This makes its effective bst 118, the lowest in the series, beating out Sunkern at 180 and Wishiwashi baby form at 175.
Swords dance and STAB technician bullet punch and uturn was such a game changer
Shedinja is the shell of a Nincada. Meaning that its' soul has exactly 30 in each stat.
It's a shell of its former self.
@@ThighFishshedinja and nincada are the pokemon of that phrase
Except hp
if it was 21 it would have been perfect
@@ThighFishi see what you did
Fun fact: Nincada, Shedinja, and Ninjask all have different secondary typings and Nincadas defense is tied with the attack of its two evolutions
And nincada by far is the only bug/Ground pokemon ever
@@Eric6761 there's also Wormadam (Sand Cloak form)
i like how since scyther is so good alr and scizor was gonna be too op if they did anything major, same thing for porygon2, they decided to make it whether you prefer having a 4x weakness to rock or fire
A mistake beginners do to Shedinja to "increase' their odds of winning:
**Pops an X Defense and/or X Sp. Defense on Shedinja**
It doesnt evolve into shedinja, it creates one.
The easiest explanation for Shedinja being a byproduct and not an evolution: I believe Nincada can evolve into Ninjask without a Shedinja being formed, while the opposite is impossible
That is correct. Nincada always evolves into Ninjask. Shedinja just shows up in your party if you happen to have an empty slot and a spare Poké Ball.
That’s wild lore. “Shed-ninja”
So that’s why he has funky type resistance because he’s just a shed husk of a former nincada? The writers at Pokémon are fkn metal
Wouldn't a shedinja always form from an evolution with ninjask just in game it only appears when you have free space?
In the context of the Pokémon world wouldn't It just just wander off if it wasn't caught kind of like how in the game you don't capture it if you don't have a free slot.
That would definitely make sense, though I don't know the lore there, maybe it doesn't form in the wild? Idk honestly
If you don't have a friend, Machamp, Gengar and Alakazam are impossible to get. They are still evolutions.
The irony of me working on a Shedninja evolution when this shows in my feed
Holy shit, Scizor looks fucking amazing in the rain of Scarlet and Violet
Interestingly enough, Chansey and Dusclops are used more than their evolve forms since putting an eviolite on them makes them bulkier than their evolutions
Well, in modern gens, blissey is used as it can use heavy duty boots
@@tetra_kirby5691 modern gens don't even have the national dex while using basically the same models
@@loomnatinoscopers ...what does that have to do with anything
@@loomnatinoscopers showdown has national dex
@@tetra_kirby5691 Exactly, you got 'em
One of the funniest stat changes from an evolution to me is how Gyrados is exactly 1 speed point lower than Magikarp 😂 how does going from a dying goldfish to a flying dragon make you slower lol
Edit: it seems my Pokémon knowledge has failed me Gyrados is actually 1 point *faster* than Magikarp not slower 😔
Um actually Magikarp are extremely agile. They are able to jump higher than mountains. Just what I would expect from a fake fan who hasn't played every game (Magikarp jump). You just can't expect Gyarados to be able to match up with the god that is Magikarp./s
@@BLazeWigglytuff omg I haven’t thought about magikarp jump in ages
Actually friend, Gyrados has just 1 point *higher than Magicarp. Magicarp: 80 speed and Gyrados: 81 speed
@@BLazeWigglytuff you don't have to play every game to be a fan, younger fans might not have played earlier games as the consoles were not being sold ect
@@shiny_baxcalibur /s means /sarcasm sarcasm means not what I actually mean
shidninja hold my wonder gaurd💀
By the way,i didnt check but if shedninja actually has less its probably because its the shed of nincada when evolving into ninjask.
Technically, nincada evolves into ninjask and Shedinja just appears IF you have a free slot.
and if it's holding a pokeball?
@@shadow_realm47 It doesn't need to be holding a Pokeball. It doesn't catch itself, lol. You just need a pokeball in your bag
Nincada does not evolve into Shedinja. At no point do you get a message saying "Congratulations! Your Nincada evolved to Shedinja!" Instead you get the message for Ninjask, and if the conditions are met, you get a bonus Shedinja.
Oh well ! May as well get over it
The pokedex classifies Shedinja as an evolution of Nincada. Furthermore, Shedinja keeps all of the Nincada's inherented traits/evs.
@@Cycad97 Actually...It doesn't. It classes it as part of the Nincada family (but it's also classed Tauros and Miltank in the same family so...)
Okay virgin
@@GoldenSunAlexbut you get a nincada if you breed Shedinja w/ Ditto
my dumbass mixed up bst with just a stat and was thinking anout how vibrava has a worse attack stat than trapinch 😭
Shedinja technically isn't an evolution, it's a whole new Pokemon created from the left overs of Nincada....
Nincada evolves into ninjask - Shedinja is just a byproduct
Explain bruh!!!!
@@zhangthehuman basically, if you have a pokeball and an open team slot while evolving nincada shedinja just appears into your party while nincada evolves into ninjask.
@@zhangthehuman Nincada is based on a cicada. When a cicada goes through metamorphosis, it leaves a husk of its former body. Nincada evolves into Ninjask, but if you have an empty slot in your party and a Pokeball, the husk Nincada left behind gains life and becomes Shedinja
@@zhangthehuman exactly what this guys said and if it's a shiny nincada you get a shiny Shedninja aswell as of course man gets a shiny husk
Since Shedinja is on every ninjask evolution chart, i think its fair to say we don't need to be scientific here, Shedinja is definitely an evolution
People out here really struggling to comprehend the difference between a stat being lowered, and the BST being lowered
Who is struggling?
@@IndexInvestingWithCole Appearently some people out here.
@@IndexInvestingWithCole somehow a lot of people
And even more people struggle to understand that BST doesn't say anything how good a Pokemon actually is...
@@V-Jes especially when talking about unicategorically offensive mons
At the beginning I suspected it was Shedinja, but then realized it wasn't an evo of any mons, but then this video...
His strong enough to wipe an entire team from the video I watched
But, It doesn't evolve into Shedinja it evloves into Ninjask. Shedinja is just a bonus if you have a spare slot on your team and in later gens an extra pokeball
*Trapinch enters the Chat*
Trapinch gains 50 BST from evolution though
@@julienbronsch5039loses alot of attack
@@VaporeonRevival the video wasnt talking about attack, it was talking about BST.
Also is your pfp the 3d model of Vaporeon in the pokrmon Rumble spinoff series?
I mean it makes sense. It loses it's huge mouth and gets slimmer and faster
"can you guess who it is?"
yes.
"but first--"
nevermind.
I thought it was the lovely yellow duck since he goes ka boom distorting everything around it
Shedninja isn't a pokemon that evolves from something. It's a separate pokemon that is made from the remains of nincada's shell.
🤓 ACKSHUALLY, it has evo requirements and it comes from another Pokemon which means it's an evolution. You're really grasping at straws because bugs IRL shed their skin
@@M4y0nn41s3 Shedninja is created as a result of Nincada's evolution into Ninjask. And Pokemon Evolution is a significant and permanent change in stats and appearance.
Not to be confused with Form Changes that are temporary like with Pokemon like Rotom or Castform.
Neither Nincada nor Ninjask can evolve into Shedninja. Thus, it is a CREATION and NOT AN EVOLUTION!! This is the difference between a result and the BYPRODUCT of a result. Meaning BY DEFINITION, Shedninja is NOT an evolution. (Drops the 🎤) I rest my case.
Btw, next time you want to act smart, make sure you know what you are talking about.
@@yorelyoung6407 "a permanent change in stats and appearance"
does shedinja have the same bst as nincada? No
Does shedinja look like nincada? No
By your "definition," shedinja is an evolution 😂
@@frieddoorhandles You're focusing on the stats and not the change part. Nincada didn't become Shedinja. It evolved into Ninjask which resulted in the creation of Shedinja. That's like making a failed clone of yourself out of your shed skin cells and calling it your evolution. The change part invalidates your argument. No change, no evolution.
I’d like to add to your argument by pointing out the fact that the evolution cutscene literally shows Nincada evolving into Ninjask, not Shedinja. The requirement is to evolve Nincada with an empty slot in your party and a pokeball in your bag, and if your Nincada is nicknamed, Shedinja doesn’t take on said nickname, Ninjask does, so it’s pretty clear that Nincada doesn’t become Shedinja.
Shedinja isn't nincada's evolution,it's the skin that nincada shed that came to life
Random but bro that was an amazing cutoff and transition back into the loop😂‼️
Also trapinch to vibrava
Shedinja was my immediate thought because its 1 HP stat is so unique
Trampintch into vibrava, its attack lowers
Trapinch and Flygon both have the same attack stat too! Too bad trapinch has 10 base speed lol
Base stat total not a specific stat
And every other stat is way higher, so the total is higher
In Pokémon go vibrava CP are lower than trapinch when you evolve it 😂
the way i rolled my damn eyes when i saw nincada's silhouette 😭
I remember hearing that Exeggcute has a stat drop too when it evolves to Exeggutor, but maybe that was an urban legend.
Shedinja has a crazy ability where it only takes damage from super effective moves. It's immune to all types except flying, rock, fire, dark and ghost.
could you imagine if a normal/ghost had wonder guard?
And Sableye had no type weaknesses at all. Crazy
@@dakotastein9499 even better, steel/bug is immune to poison and sandstorms too
@@snake698 yes but normal/ghost has only one weakness and thats dark (also has 3 immunities) paired with wonder gaurd that will mean only dark moves can touch it.
@@dakotastein9499 Steel bug only has fire as a weakness, it's times 4 but that's irrelevant, trust me it is objectively better as I played both in infinite fusion haha not that normal ghost is bad by any means but the steel immunities make it objectively better, and I also personally prefer the fire weakness as fire attacks usually come from more obvious mons and I can predict them better
Shedinja: I am just his old husk but alive, not actually nincada. He became ninjask.
Shedinja should have 1 point i hp
Defense and special defense. The rest can go into special attack and speed
dawg why you rping as shedinja
@@realrealwarpet That would be overpowered. Shedinja has literally the best ability in the game, there's a reason it's risky to use
@@cowrocks3630 it’s high risk, low reward. At least as an offensive monster, i could use it in regular play
@@realrealwarpet That's true. Although I think a buff to attacks are needed, speed would make it unstoppable.
And then there is me who thinks what kakunaand metapod does 😂
I love giving Shedinja 'sturdy' ngl.
Tecnically shedinja is a separate entity but believe what you want to believe
Technically correct but I’m pretty sure the manuals gave always put it as part of the Nincada evolution tree
Exactly. It's a byproduct, not an evolution
Shedinja is more like popping into existance after Nincada evolves into Ninjask.
Yee it a husk left by it
i read that as "pooping into existence" which is even better
It makes up for it by also spawning Ninjask, the fastest trainer Pokémon to date. With the ability Speed Boost that let it surpass the 2 legendary Pokémon that are normally faster than it.
Wow, I actually guessed it just from the title. When I heard about a decrease after evolving my first thought was how Shedinja is basically an everything or nothing Pokémon.
In the old Pokémon Go, when you evolved Caterpie into Metapod or Weedle into Kakuna, the base stat decreases.
still is that way
Telling that we might be confused by telling that we might be hitting ourselves is a true Pokemon gamer move
The reason why is because of it's health stat. It's always stuck at 1, and the rest of it's stats didn't really get boosted too much.
A fan project I followed specifically included a line whose BSTs got lower but more specialized with each stage.
porygon Z and scizor aren't as weird when you remember that their previous forms used to be the final forms. had they jumped up by 100, they'd need a hindering ability to balance them out
fun fact: porygon Z is just a glitched out porygon 2
Shedinja is the Kyurem of the Nincada to Ninjask evo line
The funny thing is that you can make shedinja invincible if enemy is new
To be fair, Nincada evolved into two seperate pokemons at once.
Porygon 2 with Eviolite is a menace to fight with recover in singles.
I second this, I have a shiny BR Porygon2 that is near impossible to fell
Yep. It gave me great success at gen 5 showdown.
Porygon z too, especially with 1 nasty plot
How do make a short feel dragged out?!??
by delaying an info that is false.
@@AfroJeffrey Tf? Yes, the video was delayed, but itd not false?
@@rinkutsuki3382 did you not read the hundreds of comments saying that nincada doesnt _evolve_ into shedinja?
@Shiven Parashar Bro, it does tho. It is by pokemon's definition an evolution to nincada. It's considered a special evolution.
I like how he explains why the other Pokemon have little to no base increases, but not why Shedinja's decreases
A lot of people probably didn’t guess shedinja because bro distracted us with porygon
He says SHEDNINJA no video needed like this as thanks for saving you time
I just thought about how annoyed I was that I cannot evolve my Scizor without trade and now I'm not 😂
You mean Scyther?
lower stats for nearly immortal pokemon? hell yeah i take it
Scyther evolves to Kleavor in Gen 8
In go, when you evolve a trapinch, it's cp total usually goes down, then goes back up where it becomes flygon
This makes sense since Shedinja literally is a “shell” of the Pokémon it used to be
Yes. A spooky haunted shell lol
Husk?
Bug/steel is a really good defensive typing. Priority bullet punch and access to stab u-turn helps you hit almost everything for neutral damage.
Except for steel
@@dylanangsengsiatsass2688 almost everything, but even then, u-turn gets you out of there anyway
I forgot that they existed 💀
Off topic but the metallic texture on scizor looks so good in S/V wow
I actually tought of shedinja but then said “nah i am sure they didnt made my man shedinja dirty like that”
Not having an HP stat helps
I actually knew this instantly because not only am I just a huge pkmn nerd, but also because I love Shedinja because I used to use em on a team that I would use against my noob friend.
Wurmple, caterpie and weedle left the video
There are actually quite a few evolutions where the 'Mon loses points in one stat or another but gains more in other states to compensate. When Wingull becomes Pelipper, for example, it loses a good 20 points of Speed that it gives to its Attack Stat. It's just that it's Special Attack & Defensive stats shoot up so much you barely notice the loss in speed.
"You might be hitting yourself if you didn't guess it"
bruh i literally face-palmed two times when i saw shedinja 😂😂😂
It's a reasonable thing to overlook considering they are technically wrong - Shedinja isn't actually an evolution, merely a "byproduct" of the evolution. Nincada evolves into Ninjask, and Shedinja just... appears.
I've always loved shedinja for his uniqueness
Lets go, i finally guessed it right, i just thought of evolved pokemon with bad stats and remembered shedinja's hp
not BST but Mewtwo's defense goes down when mega evolving into mega mewtwo Y💀
The situation with Scyther and Scizor actually gets more interesting when you consider you can have the former hold an eviolite, making it overall more flexible and just as bulky if you consider it can be taught Roost.
Steel Bug >>>>>>>> Flying Bug
Scyther also does get technician and dual wingbeat for a decently powerful STAB, but scizor does have a superior typing
Yeah but Scizor can also learn Roost by evolving it after Scyther knows it, and its type is vastly superior.
Yes but you will have less attack a worse typing you have more speed sure but to what benefit really with Scizor you can turn it mega to add even more attack whilst bulking up its defence or use a different item when that's not available not to mention bullet punch swords dance less stealth rocks damage and so on
You also get obliterated by stealth rocks
I rate how he ends it with "meaning there's" to turn it into a proper loop.
Wanted too add as a honourable mention that in pokemon go when evolving Trapinch the Cp goes down
I listened to this with the sound off and automatically heard the text in Camman18’s voice. Lol.
Shedinja also has one HP, doesn't increase in that stat, and has wonder guard. So an * should be included after this.
I wish they would make more Pokémon competitively viable
To make you feel better, scizor and nincadas wing were green due to green screen making it cool
I mean, shedinja is basically the dead husk of nincada so it makes sense.
Shednija isn’t an evolution. It’s the shedding creating a new Pokémon
Porygon-Z trades some of its defenses for more special attack and speed, so it’s effectively a plus 60 or so from Porygon2 but it’s frailer now
Still bulky if invested right, not porygon2 obviously, but it can take only 60% damage from a mega mewtwo y’s fire blast and ko it in return with shadow ball
@@dylanangsengsiatsass2688 mega sandwichtwo y*
@@MogusMasterSaikawa22 just make it’s sp def and def 218 and it will be survivable, tanking at least 2 hits before going down. Couple recover in and it’s harder to kill, but still has enough power to sweep
@@dylanangsengsiatsass2688 it's not mewtwo it's sandwichtwo
@@MogusMasterSaikawa22 porygon2 however can trick room better cause base 60 and doesn’t fear fire blast that much, it could also beat mewtwo y, though it’ll take longer
Yeah, well it gets one of the most interesting abilities as a trade, lol.
im actually surprised i guessed it right