Hello Nate Charles, I made my girlfriend a ring and i used a lot of the methods in your videos to create the ring. She absolutely loves it and is impressed by the craftsmanship. Thank you so much for all the help and inspiration!
Very nice to see some people still having a hand in making jewelry, my dad is a master jeweler . Some years ago he designed a similar ring . It too can hold stones with no prongs or any setting. Looks nothing like this one , but same cool concept. And it works , stone doesn't fall out . Nice job if it holds out longer than the prongs would.
Thanks man, and yeah the concept of tension ring is pretty cool. I've altered this particular ring so it now has a claw setting, but have other tension rings that are holding up just fine :)
Stone age’ tools or not Congratulations!!people so quick to criticise.There is obviously a reason you choose to work this way.It is great encouragement to those us out here who also have ‘basic tools’
Exactly! Every tool, machine, part etc. costs money and holy shit does it add up! People are quick to tell you what to do, but a full set of tools for this kind of work is many thousands of dollars. We improvise with some things and buy tools for the stuff we cannot manage without.
No inicio pensei comigo mesmo...qual o caminho que tu traçaste...então, entendi, e vi certamente que mostraste que tens muito conhecimento! Parabéns pelo excelente trabalho!
Congratulations!! Nice video and beautiful ring design. I noticed that you struggled a bit to make your solder to run even when you were using flux and applying the heat all over the piece of metal, then I noticed you were soldering on a flat surface. My piece of advice is try to have your metal as less as possible in contact with other surfaces, try a honeycomb soldering base or a wire mesh frame to put your metal piece above of. Otherwise all the heat goes by conduction to the flat surface and not in to your metal. Hope it helps. Cheers.
Fantastic video. I like your style. The way you make do with the tools you already have. The end results are always perfect. Just proves you don't need to spend a fortune to get started. Brill!
i am a jeweler as well! this video was, as with all jeweler videos, very interesting to me! i actually size and repair rings for wal mart and Sam's clubs. may i offer some suggestions that may make things a little easier for you? ok on the sand paper we take paint sticks and fold the paper around the sticks and staple at each end creating a flat sand stick. we use 320 up to 800 grit which ensures a mirror polish. also we use this weird green fabric tape on our fingers which helps with preventing the heat from sanding to burn your fingers and also its kind of sticky so it helps with gripping the rings.
Not gonna lie, I definitely need something whilst sanding/polishing items due to the heat. And I've typically been using emery cartridge rolls which has been pretty effective, but need to get some more
FunWithFire we order from Stueller and Gesswein. The barrels are great to use on the inside as well as the outside to round the shank into a beautifully convex shank. My personal favorite is the beveled shanks which have a slope on either side with a raised ridge in the middle. Files shape the bevel so nicely and the barrels held at an angle create a flawless uniform surface. The sand paper wrapped around the paint sticks is such a game changer though! You can prop the stick into your mandrel hole on your bench and sand the shank flat. It really beats having to hold the paper flat on the bench surface.
FunWithFire i think the tape is a type of medical tape. It doesn't really stick to anything but itself. Its fabric strings woven together. I will never size another ring without it! I wrap both thumbs and my index and middle fingers. Wrap each one, extend it past your finger tip a few revolutions and fold that down over the tip and wrap a few around your finger to secure that flap. It is really good at keeping the heat off of your fingers. you will sand through it occasionally but it's so cheap n easy to replace. I will caution you though: laser welders will shoot right through it lol and sometimes the ricochet of the welder will set it on fire. You won't notice it as you're looking through Lenses into the welder... by the time you get the flame shook out it feels like it's burning hotter and hotter lol i can't tell you how many times I've shot myself or caught myself on fire in the welder. also... I noticed your torch is pretty big. We use small handheld ones with acetaline and oxygen. Our torch tips are tiny and the flames we use are muuuuch smaller. like the point of my flame is no bigger than like the tip of an ink pen. watching ppl use huge torches on rings gives me a nervous breakdown lol
FunWithFire i just see myself melting the entire ring or causing a huge bowtie in the shank lol props for handling that big of a flame on such tiny pieces
What keeps the ring tightly closed so the stone doesn't fall out? Wouldn't the movements of the wearer's hand create enough outward pressure to loosen that compression fit?
no u cant... tension setting look amazing but are highly unreliable in precious metals due to many factors...its a little differnt story in contemporary metals like titanium or tungsten but exposes the stone so much and even a diamond will chip in those locations let a lone a softer stone like a amethyst...cute idea impractical in the real world
@@wsy480 It's generally more reliable to make a fake tension ring while having a bridge underneath the center stone to act as a crown. This prevents the gem from slipping out if the ring opens up, and clamps down like a classic crown prong.
@@infered5365 Yeah Aware of all that hence the reason I brought up the worthless nature of a tension setting...but thanks for clarification for everyone else
Well there is actually a german manufacturer that makes tension settings that are super reliable. They are called Niessing. I went on a tour there as part of my apprenticeship and they are giving a waranty with every tension ring for the stone not fallling out. They collect a huge database of every individual ring and the tension of the band is calculated for every ring individually depending on ring size, stone and material. So yes its possible and absolutly stunning but not in the way this video shows it. It is super unreliable and not practical in any sense. Plus his setting and soldering was super sloppy and absolutly not up to par.
Yes you can, but it does depend on the design. By work hardening the metal to the point that you can move it just enough to get the stone in place then work hardening to the point the metal is no longer able to move, the stone will be completely locked in place.
Great work! I myself am still learning as well. I work with silver which I prefer. It’s very fulfilling to craft something that someone gets to enjoy and it always feels good to see your work appreciated.
Is it ok if I try to make your design or would you rather I try to make something that looks different? I would love to learn to make a tension setting. I’m very new to working with silver and making jewellery. Thank you for your video.
That's really stunning! And a lot easier to make (once the wire is made, at least) than it looks. I've never seen anyone use sooo much solder, though! You did manage to fill the gap, but it's never going to be as strong that way as it would be if you got the ends tightly together and then soldered them. Solder just doesn't have anywhere near the same strength as the metal.
So I have a few questions if you dont mind...my beloved engagement ring is a marquise shaped diamond cluster with a row of round diamonds and a row of baguette diamonds on both sides of the center marquise shaped cluster. It is white gold with minimal yellow gold accents. My home burned a few years ago and I dug thru the rubble for days until I found it. Sadly, the marquise shaped cluster now is tilted forward on the band; I assume the heat warped it. I still wore it without ever removing it after that because I was so happy to have found it. Then, as per my bad luck, I hit my hand on something and broke one of the tiny prongs that held one of the diamonds in the cluster, thus also losing the diamond. It has bothered me terribly that Its obviously missing a diamond so finally I decided to take it off and have a closer look to possibly see if I could somehow figure out a way to fix it myself. Of course (my luck again!) That's when I realized that the bottom of the band has worn away to practically nothing! Paper thin is an understatement. The ring has always been WAY too big on me (size 7 and I wear a 4) so I've always had to use one of those stupid plastic ring snuggie things. Apparently between the snuggie and my wedding band running against it the band has just eroded away. I live in the middle of nowhere in KY in a very rural area. The nearest jeweller that makes repairs are far away and frankly: they're crooks. They've been in trouble for swapping stones with less valuable look-a-likes when people leave their jewelry for cleaning or repairs plus they are snarky and rude. So before I even go thru the hassle of dealing with those loons or finding someone somewhere else, do any of these issues even sound like something that could be possible to repair? I realize without examination nobody can be 100% certain either way, but I was just wondering if any of these issues are "deal breakers" so to speak? I need the main cluster in its entirety straightened up, a small round diamond in that cluster replaced and somehow a new prong thingy to hold it in place, the size to be made much smaller, and something to fix the paper thin band. Any help and advice is appreciated!
Sorry to hear this has happened to you, but yeah it is hard to see what needs to be done without seeing the item. And although your nearest jewellery repairer may be far away, its closer than me seeing as I'm based in the UK. You're best bet would be to take it a trusted jeweller. Even if it means travelling a little, its better than risking losing the original stones to an untrustworthy company. I hope you get the best result possible with whatever route you take, but I'm not sure if I'm the one for the job. Best of luck
With this design Wht happened with that precious stone when ring will expand with finger pressure or whether effect. Bcoz gold is one of the softest metal.
In jewelry we don't use pure gold as you said it's one of the most soft metals instead we blend it with silver or copper to make it stronger. With that thick of wire it won't expand significantly to make the stone loose.
You ideally want there to be as little of a gap as possible when soldering, though the whole purpose of solder is to fill and connect, it does have is limits.
I'm just gonna say a lot of force is required to remove the stone. the thickness of the metal makes it very secure. have done some drop tests and hasn't come out.
Hi. Many thanks for your video. Can you tell me which type of white clay or polymer are you using to fixed the ring while you are engraving it? Many thanks in advance
FunWithFire that’s good news. I’m trying to get started in a very small space and want to use a hand held mini torch for a while. Those tend to be butane, if I’m correct. Thank you btw! And I really like your videos
Nicely done. I watched this and your chain video. Some help for you if you don’t mind. Your soldering would go a lot easier if you created a proper seam and tight joint. This is the reason your links were breaking on the chain video. You shouldn’t be able to see light through the seam before soldering and solder doesn’t fill gaps. If you want a strong join, get some tension in the joint so the ends are pressed tight together. The solder will flow into the joint and give you a strong bond. If there’s a gap that bond is weak and easy to break. Regardless, nice video and good job on the ring. 👍
@@natecharleswatches Check out this video - Andrew Berry has some great resources and information for beginner smiths. ua-cam.com/video/O7G9eeGD0pg/v-deo.html
This was awesome. Thanks for sharing this. I really like how there arent a ton of fancy tools used, cause then I can try to do this for myself. Im not sure I have the righy torch for it, but im about to find out. thinking of using silver instead of gold, cause thats what ive got.
I really enjoyed watching this video, but next time you can maybe turn up the voice-over volume because it was quite hard to hear you speak over the music and the tool noise
Great ring! You seem to be having trouble bending that bar stock. No surprise given it is thick and gold, try to clamping it in a vice around your ring mandrel and hammering it around. I hope you understood what I meant. Thanks :)
FunWithFire I just uploaded I video where I make a ring from Shibuichi (copper/silver alloy) and I use this method to bend it into a circle if you are interested.
@@natecharleswatches What happens when the skin catches filings of yellow gold, white gold, platinum, sterling silver? How do you separate the scraps? Or do you change the skin each time you do a yellow gold ring, etc? I'm just thinking the filings and scraps are so tiny and minuscule that it would take a long time just to gather a small amount, and then what would you do with it, if it's all mixed up metals? I hope this isn't a dumb question. PS-- loved the tension ring, very pretty! And I learned a few things too.
So basically I can either empty the skin after each use to separate the different metals and scrap, or what I'm more likely to do is gather ALL the scrap materials that build over a period of time and take it to a scraper (so all the silver, gold ect). They'll in turn melt it down and make an ingot, scan it to see exactly how much of what metal is in the bar, and get paid based on the total scrap value.
@@natecharleswatches Thank you for replying! Now I understand. I have a friend who works as a dental assistant, and she keeps the teeth that have gold in them, and extracts it somehow and lets it build up to a nice amount, and sells it. Not a very pleasing way to gather up gold, but it works!! Your jewelry is wonderful. I will be watching more videos. It's just great to keep on learning about different things as one gets older. You are never too old to learn. I will never even try to make my own jewelry--I cannot even string beads hahahh--but just learning how fine jewelry is made has been a fascinating and rewarding experience. Thank you for your time. See you in the next video!! :-D
Nice in principle but it will never work in practice in gold or platinum. There are precious few companies in the world that have mastered the art of the tension ring setting. Why? Because it is probably the quickest way to loose a "something thousand dollar" or Euro or whatever valued diamond. Precious metals are SOFT. There are 3 VERY important things to keep in mind when making a tension ring, like the few pro's who do it, day in and day out. 1) NEVER use scrap gold. The pro's use a gold alloy (or platinum alloy) which has spring tension in the metal itself. This is always a proprietary alloy which the maker has developed and patented. 2) Further tempering of the metal is required after casting to increase that tension. 3) The pro's ALWAYS CAST the ring using their proprietary gold. If you attempt to solder on the shoulders as done in this video you loose whatever temper you have which helps to give it spring tension. In effect you are annealing the metal to a degree when you solder it thus making it softer. Your concept is simple enough but you do a disservice when you sell someone a ring like this, particularly if they loose grandmother's irreplaceable diamond which you have set into their new ring (which you have made). In the U.S., Steven Kretchmer Designs has been making these rings for about 35 - 40 years successfully. James Allen Co. is another. There is another German Co. which does them well. The strength of the tension you ask?, 12,000 lbs. per square inch in the Kretchmer Design. K.C. Master Goldsmith (35 years experience)
Thank you! Coming from jewelery making being the family business watching this was sort of terrifying. We mostly do repairs and would never work on this ring for any reason. It is a disaster waiting to happen. The solder joints at the top are quite a huge concern.
It looks pretty good design, but Amethyst is semi precious stone extremely soft and fragile, not standard for pressure setting as diam, sap, or ruby. Thanks.
I hope you all enjoy this video as much as i did making it. Probably my most favorite project to date
Is there an easy way of measuring the ring size with this kind of ring? Great ring! :)
@@amandabusch1189 well the ring is sized between O and P, resizing it could prove to be a little challenging
I will love to learn to do this for a hobby . And to play with those toys . Hehehe
how do i buy some of these for my nieces and nephews
Why is it called a tension ring when the gem is held in place by compression and not tension?
Hello Nate Charles, I made my girlfriend a ring and i used a lot of the methods in your videos to create the ring. She absolutely loves it and is impressed by the craftsmanship. Thank you so much for all the help and inspiration!
Thank you for the kind words and it's my pleasure :)
Very nice to see some people still having a hand in making jewelry, my dad is a master jeweler . Some years ago he designed a similar ring . It too can hold stones with no prongs or any setting. Looks nothing like this one , but same cool concept. And it works , stone doesn't fall out . Nice job if it holds out longer than the prongs would.
Thanks man, and yeah the concept of tension ring is pretty cool. I've altered this particular ring so it now has a claw setting, but have other tension rings that are holding up just fine :)
Wow! Great outcome. Beautiful.
Nice
Thanks :)
Simple and cute design!
It certainly is
I just want to say you have an amazing talent man. And watching you make this out of nothing but a nugget was actually pretty cool.
Thanks you man, that means a lot. But I'm still a rookie finding his way XD
ima be honest, i have no idea what you’re talking about, but the ring looks very pretty and your voice is so soothing to listen to :)
Why thank you :)
Stone age’ tools or not Congratulations!!people so quick to criticise.There is obviously a reason you choose to work this way.It is great encouragement to those us out here who also have ‘basic tools’
Its how a lot of us start of, gotta be resourceful XD
Exactly! Every tool, machine, part etc. costs money and holy shit does it add up! People are quick to tell you what to do, but a full set of tools for this kind of work is many thousands of dollars. We improvise with some things and buy tools for the stuff we cannot manage without.
Its beautiful! Any stone would look gorgeous
Definitely
i love this ring, its beautiful.
Thank you :)
Love the ring and I really enjoyed seeing the process that you made it with.
Would love to see how you set the stone in the setting
This ring is so beautiful, yet simple ❤️
You too
Et voilà le travail de l'artiste !
Obra de arte en miniatura!!
A deceptively simple, elegant ring. The beauty lies not only in its appearance, but in the process of its creation. Well done
A man that’s amazing with his hands. Need to find me a creative guy cause this was sooo impressive. AMAZING work, Sir.
They're out there...somewhere, just keep looking. and thank you :)
Beautiful ring!
Thank you :)
Loved watching the process of making this ring. I got a few tips from you.👍
Very good
I love this ring but worry about an accidental pull on one side and viola ya lost the stone. Could someone put my mind at ease?
No inicio pensei comigo mesmo...qual o caminho que tu traçaste...então, entendi, e vi certamente que mostraste que tens muito conhecimento! Parabéns pelo excelente trabalho!
Gorgeous piece!
Thank you :)
Congratulations!! Nice video and beautiful ring design. I noticed that you struggled a bit to make your solder to run even when you were using flux and applying the heat all over the piece of metal, then I noticed you were soldering on a flat surface. My piece of advice is try to have your metal as less as possible in contact with other surfaces, try a honeycomb soldering base or a wire mesh frame to put your metal piece above of. Otherwise all the heat goes by conduction to the flat surface and not in to your metal. Hope it helps. Cheers.
Fantastic video. I like your style. The way you make do with the tools you already have. The end results are always perfect. Just proves you don't need to spend a fortune to get started. Brill!
Thank you, you certainly don't need to have all the expensive tools. But hopefully when I do get the tools it'll be easier and more efficient
why would you solder the ring together to later cut it in half? Can you add the round piece without gluing the ring together?
I think it's to make it work more evenly on the mandrel
i am a jeweler as well! this video was, as with all jeweler videos, very interesting to me! i actually size and repair rings for wal mart and Sam's clubs. may i offer some suggestions that may make things a little easier for you? ok on the sand paper we take paint sticks and fold the paper around the sticks and staple at each end creating a flat sand stick. we use 320 up to 800 grit which ensures a mirror polish. also we use this weird green fabric tape on our fingers which helps with preventing the heat from sanding to burn your fingers and also its kind of sticky so it helps with gripping the rings.
Not gonna lie, I definitely need something whilst sanding/polishing items due to the heat. And I've typically been using emery cartridge rolls which has been pretty effective, but need to get some more
FunWithFire we order from Stueller and Gesswein. The barrels are great to use on the inside as well as the outside to round the shank into a beautifully convex shank. My personal favorite is the beveled shanks which have a slope on either side with a raised ridge in the middle. Files shape the bevel so nicely and the barrels held at an angle create a flawless uniform surface. The sand paper wrapped around the paint sticks is such a game changer though! You can prop the stick into your mandrel hole on your bench and sand the shank flat. It really beats having to hold the paper flat on the bench surface.
FunWithFire i think the tape is a type of medical tape. It doesn't really stick to anything but itself. Its fabric strings woven together. I will never size another ring without it! I wrap both thumbs and my index and middle fingers. Wrap each one, extend it past your finger tip a few revolutions and fold that down over the tip and wrap a few around your finger to secure that flap. It is really good at keeping the heat off of your fingers. you will sand through it occasionally but it's so cheap n easy to replace. I will caution you though: laser welders will shoot right through it lol and sometimes the ricochet of the welder will set it on fire. You won't notice it as you're looking through Lenses into the welder... by the time you get the flame shook out it feels like it's burning hotter and hotter lol i can't tell you how many times I've shot myself or caught myself on fire in the welder. also... I noticed your torch is pretty big. We use small handheld ones with acetaline and oxygen. Our torch tips are tiny and the flames we use are muuuuch smaller. like the point of my flame is no bigger than like the tip of an ink pen. watching ppl use huge torches on rings gives me a nervous breakdown lol
Yeah the big flame can cause a cold sweat from time to time XD, will upgrade a lot of tools one day when I have a proper workshop and such
FunWithFire i just see myself melting the entire ring or causing a huge bowtie in the shank lol props for handling that big of a flame on such tiny pieces
That ring is gorgeous, I love it. Great job. One day I want to purchase one. Good bye. Best wishes.🍀
Would the wearer have to be extra careful with this sort of ring to prevent a pull or impact on the metal that would let the stone fall out?
There is a potential yes, but the ring did survive a drop test and given the thickness of the metal, its quite hard to pull apart
Beautiful ring
Gold is soft and not springy, how does it provide enough tension over time to hold that stone?
What keeps the ring tightly closed so the stone doesn't fall out? Wouldn't the movements of the wearer's hand create enough outward pressure to loosen that compression fit?
Beautiful! But can you really trust the stone not to fall out?
no u cant... tension setting look amazing but are highly unreliable in precious metals due to many factors...its a little differnt story in contemporary metals like titanium or tungsten but exposes the stone so much and even a diamond will chip in those locations let a lone a softer stone like a amethyst...cute idea impractical in the real world
@@wsy480 It's generally more reliable to make a fake tension ring while having a bridge underneath the center stone to act as a crown. This prevents the gem from slipping out if the ring opens up, and clamps down like a classic crown prong.
@@infered5365 Yeah Aware of all that hence the reason I brought up the worthless nature of a tension setting...but thanks for clarification for everyone else
Well there is actually a german manufacturer that makes tension settings that are super reliable. They are called Niessing.
I went on a tour there as part of my apprenticeship and they are giving a waranty with every tension ring for the stone not fallling out.
They collect a huge database of every individual ring and the tension of the band is calculated for every ring individually depending on ring size, stone and material. So yes its possible and absolutly stunning but not in the way this video shows it. It is super unreliable and not practical in any sense.
Plus his setting and soldering was super sloppy and absolutly not up to par.
Yes you can, but it does depend on the design. By work hardening the metal to the point that you can move it just enough to get the stone in place then work hardening to the point the metal is no longer able to move, the stone will be completely locked in place.
I ABSOLUTELY did enjoy watching..You have a spectacular gift
Would silver work with this type of setting?
love the design
That probably the sweetest video I’ve ever seen. You are truly amazing! God bless you❤️
Very beautiful!
Thank you very much!
Great work! I myself am still learning as well. I work with silver which I prefer. It’s very fulfilling to craft something that someone gets to enjoy and it always feels good to see your work appreciated.
Wowwww, so much of manual work n so meticulously done😅😅👍
Tell me about it
very nice, and simple.
Is tension setting safer than prongs?
How often do you collect all the gold shavings & powder?
Always collecting
I just love love love this ring!!!
Wow that's a crazy amount of work. Kudos to you!!!
Wow! Extremely pretty and a very well done to you!
Thank you :)
Is it ok if I try to make your design or would you rather I try to make something that looks different? I would love to learn to make a tension setting. I’m very new to working with silver and making jewellery. Thank you for your video.
That's really stunning! And a lot easier to make (once the wire is made, at least) than it looks.
I've never seen anyone use sooo much solder, though! You did manage to fill the gap, but it's never going to be as strong that way as it would be if you got the ends tightly together and then soldered them. Solder just doesn't have anywhere near the same strength as the metal.
I thought so too @wendyannh but then realised that was the section he cut out anyway to provide the gap for the stone!
Yeah I'm thinking it's a dirty solder join just to keep the ring together for shaping on the mandrel, and like Donna said, he cut that section out
Слов нет) вы супер мастер👍🏽
Beautiful
I was so pleased that the only item that could be considered speciality was the draw plate.
Tiger Walton yes
@@Merojewelleryworkshop SUPER
Does it matter what kind of sand you use
So I have a few questions if you dont mind...my beloved engagement ring is a marquise shaped diamond cluster with a row of round diamonds and a row of baguette diamonds on both sides of the center marquise shaped cluster. It is white gold with minimal yellow gold accents. My home burned a few years ago and I dug thru the rubble for days until I found it. Sadly, the marquise shaped cluster now is tilted forward on the band; I assume the heat warped it. I still wore it without ever removing it after that because I was so happy to have found it. Then, as per my bad luck, I hit my hand on something and broke one of the tiny prongs that held one of the diamonds in the cluster, thus also losing the diamond. It has bothered me terribly that Its obviously missing a diamond so finally I decided to take it off and have a closer look to possibly see if I could somehow figure out a way to fix it myself. Of course (my luck again!) That's when I realized that the bottom of the band has worn away to practically nothing! Paper thin is an understatement. The ring has always been WAY too big on me (size 7 and I wear a 4) so I've always had to use one of those stupid plastic ring snuggie things. Apparently between the snuggie and my wedding band running against it the band has just eroded away. I live in the middle of nowhere in KY in a very rural area. The nearest jeweller that makes repairs are far away and frankly: they're crooks. They've been in trouble for swapping stones with less valuable look-a-likes when people leave their jewelry for cleaning or repairs plus they are snarky and rude. So before I even go thru the hassle of dealing with those loons or finding someone somewhere else, do any of these issues even sound like something that could be possible to repair? I realize without examination nobody can be 100% certain either way, but I was just wondering if any of these issues are "deal breakers" so to speak? I need the main cluster in its entirety straightened up, a small round diamond in that cluster replaced and somehow a new prong thingy to hold it in place, the size to be made much smaller, and something to fix the paper thin band. Any help and advice is appreciated!
Sorry to hear this has happened to you, but yeah it is hard to see what needs to be done without seeing the item. And although your nearest jewellery repairer may be far away, its closer than me seeing as I'm based in the UK. You're best bet would be to take it a trusted jeweller. Even if it means travelling a little, its better than risking losing the original stones to an untrustworthy company. I hope you get the best result possible with whatever route you take, but I'm not sure if I'm the one for the job. Best of luck
Nice job! Quick question, in the beggining you cast a round gold rod, why not just cast a square rod? Thanks
Is that 9ct gold ?
Yes it is
Wow amazing..thanks for sharing 😘
Thanks for watching :)
Wow...!
That really is beautiful...!
Fantastic job!
A masterpiece 🙂
With this design Wht happened with that precious stone when ring will expand with finger pressure or whether effect. Bcoz gold is one of the softest metal.
In jewelry we don't use pure gold as you said it's one of the most soft metals instead we blend it with silver or copper to make it stronger. With that thick of wire it won't expand significantly to make the stone loose.
your methods make my brain sore
Just saw it.
Beautiful craftsmanship!
Very nice what happens if you snag the ring you would lose the stone very nice good job
Is always a risk sadly, but given the thickness and the fact its 9ct (which is relatively hard) means the stone is fit very tight
awesome work
Thanks a lot!
Asking honestly, everything I've come across teaching soldering technique says "solder doesn't fill gaps". Is working with gold different?
You ideally want there to be as little of a gap as possible when soldering, though the whole purpose of solder is to fill and connect, it does have is limits.
Solder should not be used to fill. Even working with gold that rule is the same.
what type of burr did you use
Beautiful!
Amazing. What are some ways you can ensure the stone will not fall out?
I'm just gonna say a lot of force is required to remove the stone. the thickness of the metal makes it very secure. have done some drop tests and hasn't come out.
i'm sorry but that's not enough, the stone will fall.
Hi. Many thanks for your video. Can you tell me which type of white clay or polymer are you using to fixed the ring while you are engraving it? Many thanks in advance
What is the thing called that you used to make square band of gold and I'm not referring to the hammer LOL !!?
The draw plate
FunWithFire Thank You !!
Beautiful ring!! Subscribed - looking forward to watching additional videos.
Thanks for the support :), and hopefully I'll be more active this year. We'll see XD
Bellissimo lavoro 👍👍👍👍👍👍
can i melt the gold with a butane torch, or is it not hot enough?
I'd imagine it would get hot enough
FunWithFire that’s good news. I’m trying to get started in a very small space and want to use a hand held mini torch for a while. Those tend to be butane, if I’m correct. Thank you btw! And I really like your videos
How often do tension rings lose their stone?
Beautiful ❤
Thank you :)
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Nicely done. I watched this and your chain video. Some help for you if you don’t mind. Your soldering would go a lot easier if you created a proper seam and tight joint. This is the reason your links were breaking on the chain video. You shouldn’t be able to see light through the seam before soldering and solder doesn’t fill gaps. If you want a strong join, get some tension in the joint so the ends are pressed tight together. The solder will flow into the joint and give you a strong bond. If there’s a gap that bond is weak and easy to break.
Regardless, nice video and good job on the ring. 👍
Thanks for the advice man, will keep in mind for the future 👍
@@natecharleswatches Check out this video - Andrew Berry has some great resources and information for beginner smiths. ua-cam.com/video/O7G9eeGD0pg/v-deo.html
Since this was gold why did you solder it instead of fusing it ?
Soldering is currently the only way I know
beautiful amazing Work. Thank You for share. God bless You
What kinda of stone is that?
I'm pretty sure it's amythest
I hope the stone stayed in the ring 👍.nice job
Cute ring ☺️👌
Thank you :)
@@natecharleswatches your working nice
just out of interest, did you get this ring hallmarked?
I like the ring and all but it looks really simple to pull the stone out
Love this vid. So... How did you solder such a large gap?
with quite a bit of solder XD
This was awesome. Thanks for sharing this. I really like how there arent a ton of fancy tools used, cause then I can try to do this for myself. Im not sure I have the righy torch for it, but im about to find out. thinking of using silver instead of gold, cause thats what ive got.
Thanks man and no problem. and I have found silver to be a little easier to work with so go for it :)
I really enjoyed watching this video, but next time you can maybe turn up the voice-over volume because it was quite hard to hear you speak over the music and the tool noise
I certainly will
How much gold actually gets lost due to all the filing and sanding?
One can't be certain, but I am certain that as much of it as possible is collected for scrap or re-use.
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Really well done, I'd be worried about sharp blows or something knocking the stone out of the setting though.
Yeah there is a risk of it coming out with a solid impact
@@natecharleswatches Heck, it's still gorgeous. Love the stone used too!
Thanks man, it certainly was the right choice
Great ring! You seem to be having trouble bending that bar stock. No surprise given it is thick and gold, try to clamping it in a vice around your ring mandrel and hammering it around. I hope you understood what I meant. Thanks :)
Yes i know what you mean, have done it before but not around a mandrel. Will definitely be giving it a go :)
FunWithFire I just uploaded I video where I make a ring from Shibuichi (copper/silver alloy) and I use this method to bend it into a circle if you are interested.
Argentum Moon Jewellery yes
wow very nice!!
My question has always been, how do you regain the gold powder lost during the shaving and cutting phases?
A leather skin underneath the bench (sits just above my lap) catches all the scrap shavings and such like
Ah I see, cool, thanks
@@natecharleswatches What happens when the skin catches filings of yellow gold, white gold, platinum, sterling silver? How do you separate the scraps? Or do you change the skin each time you do a yellow gold ring, etc? I'm just thinking the filings and scraps are so tiny and minuscule that it would take a long time just to gather a small amount, and then what would you do with it, if it's all mixed up metals? I hope this isn't a dumb question. PS-- loved the tension ring, very pretty! And I learned a few things too.
So basically I can either empty the skin after each use to separate the different metals and scrap, or what I'm more likely to do is gather ALL the scrap materials that build over a period of time and take it to a scraper (so all the silver, gold ect). They'll in turn melt it down and make an ingot, scan it to see exactly how much of what metal is in the bar, and get paid based on the total scrap value.
@@natecharleswatches Thank you for replying! Now I understand. I have a friend who works as a dental assistant, and she keeps the teeth that have gold in them, and extracts it somehow and lets it build up to a nice amount, and sells it. Not a very pleasing way to gather up gold, but it works!! Your jewelry is wonderful. I will be watching more videos. It's just great to keep on learning about different things as one gets older. You are never too old to learn. I will never even try to make my own jewelry--I cannot even string beads hahahh--but just learning how fine jewelry is made has been a fascinating and rewarding experience. Thank you for your time. See you in the next video!! :-D
Nice in principle but it will never work in practice in gold or platinum. There are precious few companies in the world that have mastered the art of the tension ring setting. Why? Because it is probably the quickest way to loose a "something thousand dollar" or Euro or whatever valued diamond. Precious metals are SOFT. There are 3 VERY important things to keep in mind when making a tension ring, like the few pro's who do it, day in and day out. 1) NEVER use scrap gold. The pro's use a gold alloy (or platinum alloy) which has spring tension in the metal itself. This is always a proprietary alloy which the maker has developed and patented. 2) Further tempering of the metal is required after casting to increase that tension. 3) The pro's ALWAYS CAST the ring using their proprietary gold. If you attempt to solder on the shoulders as done in this video you loose whatever temper you have which helps to give it spring tension. In effect you are annealing the metal to a degree when you solder it thus making it softer.
Your concept is simple enough but you do a disservice when you sell someone a ring like this, particularly if they loose grandmother's irreplaceable diamond which you have set into their new ring (which you have made). In the U.S., Steven Kretchmer Designs has been making these rings for about 35 - 40 years successfully. James Allen Co. is another. There is another German Co. which does them well. The strength of the tension you ask?, 12,000 lbs. per square inch in the Kretchmer Design.
K.C.
Master Goldsmith
(35 years experience)
Thank you! Coming from jewelery making being the family business watching this was sort of terrifying. We mostly do repairs and would never work on this ring for any reason. It is a disaster waiting to happen. The solder joints at the top are quite a huge concern.
good work.
Thanks :)
Cool video, turned out great.
What kind of blade are you using In your saw?
My engagement ring is same like that🥰🥰🥰🥰
It looks pretty good design, but Amethyst is semi precious stone extremely soft and fragile, not standard for pressure setting as diam, sap, or ruby. Thanks.