I just installed those exact stair treads yesterday. The shop had me use tread tape instead of glue. Absolutely hated using the tape. It took some effort to get in a rhythm. Came out nice though. Nice work bud. I like your installation methods.
Damien Albanese Yeah same here as far as getting in a rhythm, that was why I did the video on the second half instead of the first set of steps that I did there LOL
Hello thank you for you amazing video with full details.. now my questions is … what kind of wax liquid can I use (by hand without a polisher) to shine a traditional Rubber heeled staircase like the one you posted here in the video... greetings from New Jersey
@@FloorsbySouthernboys Well, where I work there are some rubber stairs like the ones you show in the video. I just wanted to know if there is any liquid wax that I can put in a spray bottle so that I can spray that wax only in the area where the stairs where it is more worn in order to cover it again and spread the wax with a cloth without applying pressure until leaving the affected area covered with wax... I just wanted to know if that is possible to do?
What about using cove sticks. That rubber dries out over time and all it takes is a hard point shoe to kick a hole right where the tread rounds up to the riser. Also I agree with the guy who said airway knife and good hook blades! Job looks great either way!
@FloorsbySouthernboys hey just wondering how much you charging per step for that kind of install? I'm just quoting on a similar job also I'm going to have to put rubber stringers
@FloorsbySouthernboys thank you for the quick reply! 125 per step, that's more than I was planning to quote. I was thinking around 100. But we live in different countries ( I'm in Canada, Nelson BC). Also, I never quote for that type of installation. Mainly, I'm doing hardwood or vinyl plank stairs, and usually, I'm quoting 100.00 per standard step. In your experience this Commercial Rubber steps are more labor intensive versus standard hardwood or vinyl plank steps? By the way I really enjoy your videos. It helped me many times. I really admire your attention to detail! Thank you !
Stephanie Newcomb That is actually the proper way but due to the defective product me and the sales rep decided it would be best to overlap, this was actually the second batch of stair tread‘s that we had, the first one was bad and the second one showed up the same way , So to keep everyone happy we chose to overlap
Thanks for the tutorial. Do I charge the customer by the sq ft or how many stairs I am doing? I have to bid on two hotels with two stairwells each. Four floors. New Jersey/ NY area.
Definitely charge per step, this job paid me over 4K In Arizona, in Jersey you should do better than that for sure, call local shops and ask them how much they charge to install them and make like you are a potential client
I have a lot of adhesive left over after pulling off damaged stair treads. Do I need to strip off the old adhesive even after trying to scrap off adhesive?
That's great if your stringers are straight.. I just did 650 stairs to rough drywall or concrete. Do you scribe in that situation? I had to use an airway and olfa to make it fit. Still wasn't 100% perfect, but close enough. Lol
jay ottenbreit Thank you for asking Matt, and thank you for watching, I would probably do it just like I do LVP measure my longest point and then carve away the excess
My clients restaurant has these rubber pads on their basement stairs (concrete underneath) and the centers of all steps are bubbling. About 16 steps total. These pads were installed early 2019 and the builder has come out once to fix them but has unfortunately happened again. My initial thought was that they were expanding and didn’t have enough room to do so, but the builder did trim them back some more, but to no avail. What would be your opinion on such matter and a possible solution? Many thx...
mastmalang70hk Technically they are supposed to be glued with a contact adhesive and the risers should be scribed and cut off to seem to the lip, But these treads were defective so the rep for Johnsonite told me to do it like this. But I have never seen them down the way I just described, I have always seen them done just as I did them, the rep for Johnsonite Told me they are always changing the way to do it
@@FloorsbySouthernboys thanks alot, i saw their videos ,now i know the flexibility ,in 12 years this is my 2nd job ,so you know forget stuff here and there🤔🤔😉
Know this video is old but that glue is good stuff but if it has to much dry time is worthless plus I’m surprised you did not put cove stuck in the crotch of the stair
@@FloorsbySouthernboys thanks for the reply, I am also a young Carpet installer, I see this material in front of elevators in apartment buildings. I was wondering how they place it in front of elevators and what kind of transitions are used when placed in a hallway that has carpet installed.
osmangazi1994 It’s thick enough if the hallway carpet is glued down you can work right to that rubber tile, and most of the time the elevators have a lip on them where these rubber tiles will work flush to the metal track at the bottom as well
If your putting the same rubber down what kind of glue would you Recomended if your stairs are wood ? Also do you have a link to where you can maybe buy the same rubber flooring even in a different color maybe ? Great video
@@FloorsbySouthernboys thanks buddy I've been installing for 37 years and I think I can learn something every day, keep up the great work I like watching your videos
I don't like the sloppy gluing, and 965 is a wet set adhesive, not pressure sensitive. You did not split the pattern either side for a even disc reveal. I guess its ok where you did this job. Other customers may not allow you to cut just one side and slap them in however gets you done the fastest. Split the discs and cut both sides from the top of the tread. See if it takes longer.
Your welcome. I did a tread job in a showroom at a Toyota dealership. My process of installation was alot different then your hotel job. Then again, my client wanted perfection. Oh well, the pros and cons of being a hard surface specialist.
@@FloorsbySouthernboys I'm doing a two-piece version of this with the VPI rubber treads next week. Your demo gave me some confidence. Any advice, going over unfinished wood with a slight nose already? I'm using the VP-100 two part epoxy and the roll of separate riser rubber on 11 steps.
djony Souza You will have to order these from the carpet store, however they are extremely expensive I think there was like $20,000 worth of material on this job
I hate doing commercial stair treads idk why. Always have.. we only get 25 dollars a step here.. it’s too time consuming to make any money on is why i don’t like it I guess
I just installed those exact stair treads yesterday. The shop had me use tread tape instead of glue. Absolutely hated using the tape. It took some effort to get in a rhythm. Came out nice though. Nice work bud. I like your installation methods.
Damien Albanese Yeah same here as far as getting in a rhythm, that was why I did the video on the second half instead of the first set of steps that I did there LOL
happy new year 2022 God Bless you and all of your family. That was one nice job thank you.
Thank you sir
Thank you for posting this video. Every thing you said was very helpful.
Henry Westra That’s good to know, thank you and you’re welcome
Another amazing helpful video made very easy to follow. Thank you so much!
You’re welcome , 2 years later
Thanks, Bro! Excellent tutorial. That is a lot of work...you work very hard...
Cheers!
Thank you sir, it took me and I believe four days to do this job
Sir you are so talented and a blessing to share with others your gift. Thank you for your reply to my question. Happy Holidays a Fantastic New year.
Michelle Hunter Thank you and thank you for watching and commenting
@@FloorsbySouthernboys ill be 👀 watching. In you is greatness.
Michelle Hunter Thank you that was very kind of you to say
Hello thank you for you amazing video with full details.. now my questions is … what kind of wax liquid can I use (by hand without a polisher) to shine a traditional Rubber heeled staircase like the one you posted here in the video... greetings from New Jersey
And I don’t know what to tell you on that, sorry
@@FloorsbySouthernboys Well, where I work there are some rubber stairs like the ones you show in the video. I just wanted to know if there is any liquid wax that I can put in a spray bottle so that I can spray that
wax only in the area where the stairs where it is more worn in order to cover it again and spread the wax with a cloth without applying pressure until leaving the affected area covered with wax... I just wanted to know if that is possible to do?
What about using cove sticks. That rubber dries out over time and all it takes is a hard point shoe to kick a hole right where the tread rounds up to the riser. Also I agree with the guy who said airway knife and good hook blades! Job looks great either way!
Michael Wilson Thank you
Great job thanks for sharing this informative video
You’re welcome buddy
Nice job brother. How much do you guys get a step where you are?
Goodhouse Installations Inc. I got $55 per step
That blade just scares the crap out of me. I have seen them shatter way to many times
@FloorsbySouthernboys hey just wondering how much you charging per step for that kind of install? I'm just quoting on a similar job also I'm going to have to put rubber stringers
It has been a long time ago, but I would not do it for less than 125. You might even go higher.
@FloorsbySouthernboys thank you for the quick reply!
125 per step, that's more than I was planning to quote. I was thinking around 100. But we live in different countries ( I'm in Canada, Nelson BC). Also, I never quote for that type of installation. Mainly, I'm doing hardwood or vinyl plank stairs, and usually, I'm quoting 100.00 per standard step.
In your experience this Commercial Rubber steps are more labor intensive versus standard hardwood or vinyl plank steps?
By the way I really enjoy your videos. It helped me many times. I really admire your attention to detail! Thank you !
Thanks for the video. I have a question. How do you repair scuff/ scratch marks on the stairs. We dragged a large box down the stairs. thanks
nice job did you have to scribe the riser to the nose
Stephanie Newcomb That is actually the proper way but due to the defective product me and the sales rep decided it would be best to overlap, this was actually the second batch of stair tread‘s that we had, the first one was bad and the second one showed up the same way , So to keep everyone happy we chose to overlap
That was a great video. Thank you very much.
😀👍You’re welcome
Thanks for the tutorial. Do I charge the customer by the sq ft or how many stairs I am doing? I have to bid on two hotels with two stairwells each. Four floors. New Jersey/ NY area.
Definitely charge per step, this job paid me over 4K In Arizona, in Jersey you should do better than that for sure, call local shops and ask them how much they charge to install them and make like you are a potential client
Great video...I'm relatively new to stair treads...is it standard to always cut the treads an 1/8" shy?
Yes, he must have a sixteenths gap on each side
@@FloorsbySouthernboys cool Thnx! Plus can I use mineral spirits to clean off that film?
@@frankmchugh8616 Denatured alcohol
How much glue is needed for 8 stairs? [Or, how much did you use on all the stairs in this video? [I can figure the rest.] Thx.
I have a lot of adhesive left over after pulling off damaged stair treads. Do I need to strip off the old adhesive even after trying to scrap off adhesive?
I would try to get the steps as clean as possible before installing the new product
That's great if your stringers are straight.. I just did 650 stairs to rough drywall or concrete. Do you scribe in that situation? I had to use an airway and olfa to make it fit. Still wasn't 100% perfect, but close enough. Lol
jay ottenbreit Thank you for asking Matt, and thank you for watching, I would probably do it just like I do LVP measure my longest point and then carve away the excess
My clients restaurant has these rubber pads on their basement stairs (concrete underneath) and the centers of all steps are bubbling. About 16 steps total.
These pads were installed early 2019 and the builder has come out once to fix them but has unfortunately happened again.
My initial thought was that they were expanding and didn’t have enough room to do so, but the builder did trim them back some more, but to no avail.
What would be your opinion on such matter and a possible solution?
Many thx...
JPer With these type of treads definitely need the proper adhesive, and also they must be cleaned prior to installation with a denatured alcohol
What’s a safe alternative for cleaning stair treads other than denatured alcohol
I’m sorry but I really don’t know what to tell you on that, manufacturers recommend denatured alcohol.
I already have rubber treads but I want to paint them to hide stains and wear. What would I use to brush/roll on the tread strips?
Great video, thank you
nicely done , i just got the same job ,70 steps ,did you leave the lip unglued ,no need of it ???
mastmalang70hk Technically they are supposed to be glued with a contact adhesive and the risers should be scribed and cut off to seem to the lip, But these treads were defective so the rep for Johnsonite told me to do it like this. But I have never seen them down the way I just described, I have always seen them done just as I did them, the rep for Johnsonite Told me they are always changing the way to do it
@@FloorsbySouthernboys thanks alot, i saw their videos ,now i know the flexibility ,in 12 years this is my 2nd job ,so you know forget stuff here and there🤔🤔😉
mastmalang70hk Yep absolutely know that’s right, thanks for watching and thanks for your comment it’s appreciated and your feedback is always welcome
Great video
Steps look great!
shawn moore Thank you sir
You think that glue would work over ceramic tiles?
GillesSylvain Probably not
How long to wait before someone can walk on it?
In my 25 yrs of experience, I've never seen stair treads being installed with pressure sensitive glue 😕
I even have the rep on this job
@@FloorsbySouthernboys Forgive my ignorance, but what do you mean ?
@@catrashoo yeah that’s What the rep recommended straight from the manufacturer with these adhesive
great work buddy, mo
Mo Thank you
You provide material ?
Thanks!
Great video!
jc86 Thank you
What glue u used?
Know this video is old but that glue is good stuff but if it has to much dry time is worthless plus I’m surprised you did not put cove stuck in the crotch of the stair
do you have a video on how you did the landings?
osmangazi1994 I sure don’t , But it is just a matter of spreading Glue and putting them on the floor
@@FloorsbySouthernboys thanks for the reply, I am also a young Carpet installer, I see this material in front of elevators in apartment buildings. I was wondering how they place it in front of elevators and what kind of transitions are used when placed in a hallway that has carpet installed.
osmangazi1994 It’s thick enough if the hallway carpet is glued down you can work right to that rubber tile, and most of the time the elevators have a lip on them where these rubber tiles will work flush to the metal track at the bottom as well
If your putting the same rubber down what kind of glue would you Recomended if your stairs are wood ? Also do you have a link to where you can maybe buy the same rubber flooring even in a different color maybe ? Great video
What about the waves in the nose?
Are these roppe brand?
Nice job
Awesome video. Thanks!
Walter Butler You’re welcome thank you for watching and your comments
How much do you charge to install each rubber tread?
Oh man it’s been about two years I think since I’ve done anything and I believe I charge like $75 apiece
@@FloorsbySouthernboys thanks buddy I've been installing for 37 years and I think I can learn something every day, keep up the great work I like watching your videos
@@chrismelton8182 thank you sir
I don't like the sloppy gluing, and 965 is a wet set adhesive, not pressure sensitive. You did not split the pattern either side for a even disc reveal. I guess its ok where you did this job. Other customers may not allow you to cut just one side and slap them in however gets you done the fastest. Split the discs and cut both sides from the top of the tread. See if it takes longer.
Thank you
Your welcome. I did a tread job in a showroom at a Toyota dealership. My process of installation was alot different then your hotel job. Then again, my client wanted perfection. Oh well, the pros and cons of being a hard surface specialist.
@@kalowales9464 The thought of centering the disc never even crossed my mind at the time, thank you For pointing that out
Where did you get your stair tread from
What's labor for job like that. I hope alot. Starbucks😁😁
What brand of tread?
Glue should be clear in the valleys and cloudy on the ridges.
shawn moore Yes sir, thank you
A carpet knife on rubber?
Adam Dreyer I know right, it worked great
imagine you have to do 20 floors.
how much it cost to install per step
+allsafeflooringnmore $65
Do you roller this?
John Farris Yes it needs rolled
@@FloorsbySouthernboys I'm doing a two-piece version of this with the VPI rubber treads next week. Your demo gave me some confidence. Any advice, going over unfinished wood with a slight nose already? I'm using the VP-100 two part epoxy and the roll of separate riser rubber on 11 steps.
John Farris I would probably cut the bull nose off and install them as a waterfall step
These tread covers come in vinyl and rubber. Those look like vinyl, not rubber.
And get a spray bottle
SUB floors Thank you
Greet idea!
Where I can buy this rubber
djony Souza You will have to order these from the carpet store, however they are extremely expensive I think there was like $20,000 worth of material on this job
@@FloorsbySouthernboys thanks
djony Souza Anytime
You can get the VPI version from Menards, djony.
John Farris Thank you I did not know that
I hate doing commercial stair treads idk why. Always have.. we only get 25 dollars a step here.. it’s too time consuming to make any money on is why i don’t like it I guess