How to Update Oak Stair Treads and Risers | Ask This Old House
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- Опубліковано 4 тра 2019
- Ask This Old House general contractor Tom Silva teaches a homeowner how to replace split-level stair treads in his midcentury modern home
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Time: 10-12 hours
Cost: $300
Skill Level: Moderate
Tools List for Updating Stair Treads and Risers:
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Reciprocating saw [amzn.to/2IUBdwi]
Hammer [amzn.to/2UPkY5e]
Utility knife [amzn.to/2XXQuzJ]
Pencil [amzn.to/2vyVUFb]
Combination square [amzn.to/2vvxUTt]
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Palm sander [amzn.to/2vteHBZ]
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Rubber mallet [amzn.to/2GPBVHB]
Brad nailer [amzn.to/2GUkB4a]
Air compressor [amzn.to/2DGrlSo]
Shopping List:
_” Oak stair treads [amzn.to/2Le6tbu]
4x8’ oak veneer sheet [amzn.to/2GRuNdK]
4” or longer metal cutting blade for reciprocating saw [amzn.to/2ITomKI]
Shims [amzn.to/2GVFI7p]
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Temporary floor protection [amzn.to/2vvdERU]
Sandpaper [amzn.to/2ZQ7d9V]
Construction adhesive [amzn.to/2GVAQiA]
8d finish nails [amzn.to/2GWAjgD]
Resources:
While the risers could have also been replaced, Tom thought it would be easier and just as effective to apply a veneer over them to give them a cleaner look that matched the new treads. Tom applied a pressure backed 20 PSA red oak veneer, which is manufactured by Veneer Technologies (amzn.to/2ITqr9u). He ordered one 4’x8’ sheet for the whole set of stairs.
For the template, Tom used an extra piece of Ram Board temporary floor protection (amzn.to/2Wd23Tg), though any semi-rigid markable material would work.
To secure the treads in place, Tom used 8d finish nails and construction adhesive, which is manufactured by Gorilla Glue (amzn.to/2GVAQiA).
Expert assistance with this segment was provided by Atlantic Plywood (atlanticplywood.com/).
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I always love how Tom shows us how the ancient Egyptians did it instead of telling you to buy a $70 tread scribing tool
Yeah the way he was doing those measurements kinda blew my mind.
Why spend $70 on a tool that wouldn't be able to cut treads with non straight sides.
The ancient egyptians didn't build anything
The Israelites, who were slaves at that time, did all the work and were masters at building Pyramids
@@truelight3604 where did Joseph go to labor if nothing wasn't built by Egyptians before he brought his family (the children of Israel) to live. Do you think they just immediately became slaves to vagrants that had no structural building and only started from scratch when Israel and his descendants move in? Read Genesis again for review. Also history tells us the Egyptians are largely responsible for the shape of mathematics as we know it. Slaves do as their told not design structures using mathematical principles.
@@truelight3604This is one instance where I can support a pedantic comeback.
Using the paper for a template and to figure out the length. Genius!
This video and template idea came at a perfect time. I'm about to install all new treads and risers in my house.
@@bigpjohnson pick up a stair jig, way easier than all that mess with better results
@@tonyangelo1660 I plan to, Home Depot sells the jigs for only $17.
Not exactly genius. It just takes an aptitude for working and solving problems in three dimensions which obviously is Toms forte.
This is how we do flash cove flooring.
Honestly ive been doing this work my whole life. This is the distillation of a lifes work. Excellent video.
Me at 9pm: “I’m going to bed early tonight”
Me at 3am: Watching this old house.
5:00am for me 😞
Haha 2:43 am right now.
Every time
its literally 3:04am here :(
3:49 11/2022
The level of detail and slower pace of this segment is sweet. I appreciate it because in other segments, for instance the one about shingling, some of the more subtle bits of information were left out. I'm helping my parents fix up an old house, and while I can swap an engine, home improvements are foreign to me. These videos (as well as the UA-cam channel "Essential Craftsman") have been valuable and confidence inspiring! Thanks you!
Stairs are easily the biggest pain in the ass when it comes to household woodwork. Great tips here.
There's a lot of projects I'm willing to undertake in my own home, but the attention to detail and patience required for something like this, is out of my DIY zone.
These guys, this show, has taught me so much over the years that I can't thank them enough. I have my renovation business now but I started with my first flip in 2011 when I use to watch this show on TV. Thank you guys.
Dear Tom. You and Canadian Jeff Thorman are amazing. Last forever.
Tom is my hero! I have learned so much over the years!
Tommy I would throw away my life to learn from you. Another glorious video from a true Master!
Wow. Handing out lessons left and right. We appreciate you Tom!
He explains so peacefully! Thank you for this video.
Tommy’s awesome! So patient and thorough. Love watching him and the others too.
I watched a 15 second commercial in the middle....that's how good this episode is.
Man that guy is so good at what he does! Incredible
I love to watch Tom and the guys work. I always learn something.
Tom...you inspire folks like me all the time...thanks
You're the Best Tommy! Been watching you for years.
Tommy never ceases to amaze me.
Tommy is the man!! Love and hate how he makes it all sound so easy!
Love Tom’s presentation. Nice that all the TOH's fellas bring the homeowner along with gentle encouragement.
Wish they could tackle a problem. It’s hugely stylish and infinitely practical…interior ramps. Seen in all the magazines, sometimes whimsy, indoor slide next to staircase, but it’s so practical, it should be included in the design.
Age related stair issues, number one, but carrying when things can be slid….
Also, show us how birch plywood is made. Birch is here to stay, everyone loves it. How is it made and is it sustainably harvested ?
Love This Old House. Like Having Brothers In Law in the trades without having to buy the beer.
Tommy Silva is a Genius!!
Tommy make it look easy again; good luck to that home owner trying to match that for the top 4 more steps.
Boy, am I glad to see this project! I have been holding off on doing my own because I knew I would do it wrong. Thanks TOH, I will try to do you guys proud!
Aw, aint that cute
Awesome job with how to transfer the measurement from the stairway to the treads. Been scratching my head for a while about that one.
Most impressive detail: pretty much zero measuring when it came to install the treads. Tommy is a national treasure. Thanks ATOH!
Tom silva always described each thing very well ...great video
This is why Tommy's always been the best.
Mr tom is a pro and old school the best finger up 👍
Another great video Tom. With the stairs open, now would be a good time to run some cables through for any electrical boxes or three way lights.
Brilliant tip using paper as a template! Thanks Tom
I simply love good ol' Tom
Your videos are so professional and so demonstrative. Many thanks mister.
Tommy Silva is great! Love that guy!
Love Tom. He's the best.
Awesome way to scribe in the treads! I'll use that method in other wall to wall situations. Thanks!
He is very patient. Good carpenter
Tom Silva is a real American hero.
That is a great video. I love watching and learning from Tom Silva.
Fantastic craftsmanship! Methodical and clearl instructional approach. Awesome! 🇺🇸
Great tutorial! At some point we need to renovate our stairs in our old house too and this video will be very helpful!
I use a washer to scribe with. Place your pencil inside of the washer hole and press it against the surface you want to scribe. It will roll along like a wheel and make a perfect copy in a jiff. Thanks for all your years of great work Tommy.
Great idea! Why didn’t I think of that?
Hey baby! Just saw a cool video and now I’m gonna tackle that stair case remodel you been asking about! 3 weeks later.... you know what baby...it looked way easier on UA-cam
I really appreciate the time and effort to get those cuts just right, but like someone once told me, “caulk is free”.
are you stealing caulking? last i checked it was a dollar or two a tube
Excellent teacher. The circular saw look positively medieval.
Can't tell you how awesome this video was in helping me. Thanks!!!
These Diy vids are so satisfying to watch
Stair jig for what I got paper! I'm glad I watched 👍🏻
Great video & tips! Always learning from Mr. Silva
Tommy is a master craftsman.
I pre-varnished the treads before putting them in. Much easier!
Very clever techniques. Unlike all the arm chair experts second guessing every single detail without knowing the jobs full requirements. I'd like to think I can appreciate experience, skill and craftsmanship when I see it.
Best home show ever 👍👍
excellent job . i was thinking just i am attending my collage class . awesome professor lecture can't miss .i repeated this video 3 time and watch ,.don,t want to miss any step
Tom is the best. I’d pay to take some carpentry classes under him. 👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Tom makes everything easier! THANKS!
Finish/sand the skirts before installing the treads and risers. Everything will be exposed and it’ll save boat loads of time.
Jackson Brown what happens if u scratch the paint when u install those tightly fit new treads then?
@@4KayMar Touch ups are easier than painting the entire skirt
Yup, he should of done the painting ahead of time and touch up afterwards, i also would of prestained/poly the treads ahead of time and of course i would of used my stair jug that makes a template for cutting treads
Yep !
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That is an incredible mid century house.
I like the way you measured the corner angle 📐. I am going to use it for a Closet it shelf.
He's amazing.
Some really great tips thank you. Loved your explanation of using a short scribe tool.
I redid a couple stair sets, and they have a tread template which really comes in handy and takes the guesswork out!
Yeah, I mentioned that above over top of your post. Sorry, i didn't know anyone had mentioned it.
Amazing! What a craftsman you are!
Tommy is THE MAN!!!
Great video. Getting started on replacing our pine with oak. We have an additional challenge of existing dado'd stringers.
Hey Kevin, I just ran into the same problem with my stringers. What did you end up doing?
This guy is master of stairs !
I just did my stairs out of maple hardwood. it was a very hard job and used every tool i had.
Genius hack...thankyou...learnt a now trick today...cheers
Good work Tom.
So simple, so genius!
Finally a modern house!
Great job!.Thank you for the helpful tips.
Great video, good tips and tricks!
I really love oak floors, cabinetry and trim. I don't understand why so many people hate it.
It will be hip again in the future, trust me. Ebb and flow.
@@Guillotines_For_Globalists Yes...just like popcorn type ceiling will make a comeback...
@@scallywag1716 Maybe.
Oak looks great on floors and on trim IMO, provided you don't stain it dark or with a gloss finish(looks like gym floors if you do a gloss finish). Not so fond of it on cabinets and furniture due to the pattern of the grain on large pieces of wood.
Ive watched this video 3 times in the past few months. Thought of using vinyl plank at bottom of stairs so why not carry it up the steps also. The wood is cheaper than the vinyl after you add in the cost of stair nose but then the measurements are off of each step by adding new wood. My stairs and basement were never finished but built as living space in 1950 even to include a fireplace that wasnt finished. I want the resale value up. DIY is the only way. Thankyou Tommy for showing how to measure and scribe the treads. It will help no matter what material I use.
If you really want to add some value to the house to learn how to convert them to drawers.
Be glad you don't have to figure out the spacing..I helped a friend one summer build a costume home...Them Stairs were a pain....
Tom is a national treasure
I did mine from carpet to red oak risers and treads. I sanded, stained and sealed the treads and only sanded and sealed the risers. I did this before cutting them to length so there was no fumes in the house, and all the stairs and risers were done in one day (although it took me a month during the summer in my garage to do the prep, along with removing the carpet, a billion staples and sanding/cleaning the raw wood.) I needed no trim or quarter round, the install is seamless and I've gotten a ton of compliments even from the pros that did my wood floor. I've had large furniture hauled up and down, work boots up and down them... quick air can blow the dust off and wipe them with a moist towel... good as new.
What stain and sealer did you use?
@@vikings844 I used Minwax. The sealer was matte but I allowed it to settle and skimmed to get less of a matte finish but not completely glossy either.
awsome lesson on stairs ty sir for the great video demo,,
That is a whole lot of work! Wow
This is when experience working great job 👍🤗
The master at work.
Tom is a beast.
gotta love that iso tack veneer.
Perfect example of Tom’s favorite saying. The moneys in the details
Thanks for, The Tricks of the Trade!!
the author does like to from scratch, shaping and trimming wood from large blocks into fine finished products. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxD-QRFQz730FJEh4f9BYSf-nkIMIC9hL_ as another reviewer mentioned, most projects require a lot of high-dollar equipment that most of us dont have the room or budget for. But, knowing how to do these things, even if we wont be able to practice the full stack project, is still great.
Tommy is unbelievable
Great job, Tommy.
I'm convinced Tommy is a National Treasure.
I saw Tom once at a garden center near my house. I was like, OMG that is the guy Tom from This Old House...LOL I also saw Roger once too at a Home Depot.
I once met Baba Booey. His teeth are more gimungous in person.
0:25
"So you want to tackle this project?"
Me: "You're right. You should do it."
You can get a Collins stair gauge template for about $50 on Amazon. I think Tommy is great and the paper thing was pretty slick but very time consuming. If I'm ripping my stairs apart... I'm ordering the right tool for the job.
if old treads were tight and flush, use them as templates!!
That's a really good video.
Legend says Tom is still at this house with his paper template working on his last steps
THANK YOU!!!!
Man Tom really fixes like 90% of wood problems with shims.
Tommy is the greatest...
LOVE this show so much miss it since I have no TV just Netflix
Pluto tv (free app) has a channel that airs non stop "this old House" and "ask this old House" episodes