RANKING ALL MY STRATS FROM BEST TO WORST - Player Plus / SE Silver Sky / Parts / Xaviere
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- Опубліковано 31 січ 2022
- THEY SAID IT COULDN'T BE DONE! who are they? I dunno, seemed like a cool thing to say though.
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You should make that “scorecard“ available as a PDF or something to download and print out for other people who have to decide what to keep and what to sell!😉👍
thats a good idea, ill try to remember to do that after the kids go to bed.
One can always decide what’s best for THEM and decide accordingly, too. That’s how I would do it, honestly. One man’s treasure is another’s curse after all.
@@BrewReview my point exactly 👍
@@60CycleHumcast aw! 👍
Please let us know if you get round to it? (&don’t play too loudly &wake up the kids!). 😉
I LOVE the fact that you used an analog score card. We as guitarists all know that analog is superior to digital.
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Really enjoyed watching this one. If the silver sky se came in maple fingerboard option I’d lust after one! 👍🏼🎸
The PRS stood out every time on the sounds for me. 🙂
The Xavier was hands down my fav for sound and looks except the logo
Love this channel btw thanks for the hard work put in and the entertainment it doesn’t go un noticed 👍🏻
The finish on that Partscaster is awesome 👍👍 Yes... this IS a good video and i gotta say it was very informative too. I have previously bought a couple of guitars you have reviewed, (Lead 3 and Classic Vibe Starcaster,) and your reviews helped me make a good choice. I have been wondering about the candy apple green player plus since it came out... and as soon as one of my local stores gets one in, i will probably add that to the collection too. Keep up the good reviews Ryan. 👍👍
That PRS through that Tone King is just magical
I have that same green fender player Strat. When I saw that online I just knew I had to buy it, went to my local shop and tried it out and I was very pleased with how well it played, purchased it on the spot. I also like sparkly guitars and surf music. So I will continue to watch your videos. Thanks for this!
I don't know what I was thinking? Here I thought my question would While I do lean to the Player I really like PRS as well. Maybe someday I'll just have to have both. Thank you Ryan for a very good and thorough shoot-out allowing us to make well educated decisions. You were right as to witch one I liked the best. Nice work.
The partscaster came out swinging! Nicely done!
Some great guitars there. Love the comparison. I got an se silver sky, and areversnd Jetstream 390. Love the strat sound. I could stay on that second position all day. That cosmic green is my favorite color. Very interesting. Take care man. Really like your surf stuff.
great video. as soon as you got the PRS I wanted to know your comparison to the fender.
42:06 in: "Is this a good video?" 🤣
Good video. Love the green strat.
I'd like to see one more compared to these, like an american professional II to see how that next level of premium would compare to these other options. Great video!
I bought a "Player Plus" Mexican-made Jazz Bass from Sweetwater about six weeks ago. I'm really impressed with the fit, finish, and playability of it. The only thing I changed was the plain white pickguard for a white pearl one, which was a flat-out game-changer on the looks. It sounds great -- the days of the Mexican Fenders being scrap are over -- they got their game together!!
I bought a MiM Deluxe Jazz Bass in 1999. It's been nothing but great. The three tiers of Fender quality were always a dice roll.
I agree with the end result. I liked the player plus and the prs the most. All very capable guitars though. For surf the prs won easily I thought. For a modern Strat I’d probably grab a prs. But I do like the looks of your player plus more. Very interesting video sir.
Thanks for doing what you do.
Yeah it is a great vid, and I am glad to see the Fender Possibly beat the Prs
I liked this video. Helped put the John Mayer strat into perspective
I started as a Gibson player,( knowing little beyond that they seemed easier to play and maintain) and it was actually an SG with P90's that got me interested in single coils.
Over the last decades, I've been through the full range of Fender products, eventually becoming knowledgable enough to start building my own.Having built over 20 Strats and Teles,( including a couple baritone's )- and having sold more than half of those, - I've come to even more appreciate the original specs.Leo was unquestionably a genius, as you can modify, but you can't really beat ANY of his original concepts.Although I still enjoy the occasional turn on an SG,a Firebird, or even the occasional Jackson or Ibanez, they're not the sounds that keep me engaged and still playing.Strats aren't easy to play,or for the faint hearted ; any criticism you might make says more about the issues of the player.
great video!
i gotta go with the xaviere 1st...then the watermelon...the other 2 arent bad at all...tonewise ill go with the 1st 2 i mentioned...
I went back to when you put those pickups in, you just said Octave Doctor..not sure which model, they have I think 4 or 5 different strat pickups. I really like the sound of those!👍
really digging the palette of the red jag, black baritone, and gold harmony with the blue background
As picky as I am about build quality of all music equipment…. I’m defiantly not picky about weight. I’ve never once thought “I wish this guitar was two pounds lighter” I feel like I’m missing something? It’s just not something that enters my mind 🤷🏻♂️ Then again I’ve never played a three hour gig with a Les Paul… so I dunno.
Awesome vid as always Ryan! It’s been a trip watching your channel grow over time. Cheers 🍻
I'm the opposite. I refuse to own a guitar over 8 lbs. lol
Great video. Enjoyed it. I guess objectively... You get what you pay for. But subjectively it doesn't always work that way.
For some reason when my phone notified me this video was premiering I thought I saw the title as "Breaking all my strats" I was very relieved when I clicked on it and it was " Ranking all my strats" 😁
fun video love it
When it comes to the pickups as heard on the recording side, the Xaviere sounded very much like the PRS. Only the bridge on the Xaviere sounded like it was wound slightly hotter (or was just closer to the strings maybe?). I can see why the Fender Player Plus would rank highly because the noiseless pickups are nice at killing the single coil hum at the cost of being a bit more laid-back; perfect for doing demos as you do.
In this case I think the Fender is a clear step above the rest. But it’s reflected in the cost. Great video.
Here in Australia, the PP is actually cheaper than the SE.
@@voiceofexperience In most of Europe, they cost the same - right now at Thomann, both the SE and the Player Plus is 999€.
This is fun. This is a fun video.
With the Xaviere, you're buying a body to eventually put your personal preferences on (neck, pickups, tuners, etc.) Leaning towards the Fender because I know how they feel and play for the straight from the box guitar.
If that Xavier would stay in tune it would really be a good contender. Simply put it seems cost actually determines quality to some degree. The Player Plus and the PRS kinda lead the pack…IMO. Great video, lots of work…appreciated.
I completely agree with your scoring. I think two guitars that would have been great contenders here, are the Schecter Nick Johnston Signature and the Sire S7. Those both look to be really great guitars, with a lot of band for the buck.
cant agree more than this ! please do that video.
I agree and I would’ve put a Charvel in there somewhere too
I've been considering a Xaviere but I wonder what the next level of quality is. So I am also interested in a Sire and something I see much less of online, a G&L Tribute Tribute S-500 that seems less popular than others, but in the same price range.
I have Nick Johnston. I don't see any other reason to get other strat than if I want differently voiced pick ups
I have a Fender Deluxe Roadhouse, Fender USA Deluxe, and a Squier 60th Anniversary Classic Vibe '50s. My favorite is the Squier 😀
Do you think you can put the PRS phase 3 SE locking tuners on the silver sky?
I loved the vintage and modern categories hahahah. So right, and prs is great
I’d take the pickups from your partscastor, the neck from the prs and put it all on the green one since it’s the prettiest along with replace the tuners with your favorite ones.
Sorry, all good stuff, but I would pick up the Player + on looks and for the bridge humbucker. God, that green is gorgeous.
Why do so many people not remove the white plastic layer on the back of inexpensive tuners?
This is a very good, thorough comparison video, but the most shocking revelation out of this is that Ryan writes left handed! I never knew!
@60cyclehum I think you need to double check your math on the PRS in the objective category... should be two points higher? Which puts it only two points less (better) than the Xaviere which is more than 3x less expensive!
Boy you love colors. Looks like easter in your studio.
That green player plus is King & the PRS sounds great as well.
So the Fender gives you these guitars? Do you buy some? Isn't it confusing playing so many different guitars?
I think if you gig, the PRS & Fender Player Plus stay at home or in a studio, that means the X & Partscaster are going to be the stage & road warriors. I liked the Partscaster for looks, but not big on GraphTech saddles. In the final tally, Fender 27, PRS 30 & the X & Partscaster tied at 32. Price dependent, the X & Partscaster for that tight of an overall score are easy winners vs the Fender & PRS. As the Xaviere is under $ 300, it just reinforces my contention that one could easily get a Sterling by Music Man Cutlass CT30 or CT50 & end up saving $ 300-500 on the PRS & even more on a Player Plus and not have any regrets. I saw an Anderton's video, sound like John Mayer without breaking the bank. They chose a Squier Bullet at 100 British Pounds.
Like my guitars (not all of them are strats), the cheapest & ugliest one is the loser for a tighter scoring. But believe it or not, it's the 1st one I reach for, gets more play than the others. The others really are the same as they were unboxed pretty much. The cheapest & ugliest (2005 Squier Bullet) needed work and it's close to what the others are as either brand new or rarely => never used preowned.
Well dang, gotta rewatch. The first round turned into a really nice post dinner nap.
A couple of great takeaways here: 1. If you are going to build a guitar from parts, either really pick specific parts you like or just consider it a fun building project, because if you want a playable guitar it's better to just buy a cheap guitar nowadays. 2. Depending on what you like and need, a $800 guitar might be better than a $1100 guitar (but you need to know what you are looking for).
I'm at sound /pick up comparison; I'm not saying it's my favorite for sound, but the Xavier had the best, just in terms of complexity. Much more 3D sound stage than any others. And it had a mid range, the Fender and the PRS had jangley highs floating on bass, but nothing in between. Parts sounded more balanced....?... Wow, Ryans take is opposite. Being in the room vs hearing the recording are 2 different things.
Personal preference comes into play too
Honest to God, if I could have any of those guitars, I'd take the Xaviere! And it's because of the things that it got a 1 for: modability (but I wouldn't mod it), most Strat-like and Vintage. It sounded more like a Strat than the Strat did! And that's because the Strat pups were different. The HSS is nice; it _does_ sound good. But the Xaviere sounds more like a Strat! PLUS (when it's in stock) I can even get it with a groovy tweed case!
So I'm wondering about the items that it got a 4 for: playability and pleasure factor. It _has_ the rolled edges, which only the $1100 Strat also has. I can't figure out why it got those 4s. I bet I'd rate it higher, were I to handle one.
Finally, as someone who's pleased to see the Surfer's Choice item... I concur about the PRS. It sounded really really good, even though it's a more modern sound. 👍 for all 4 guitars but make mine Xaviere.
I own 2 Xavieres: This "Strat", but in a "Gilmour" finish, and one of their LP copies. Both are very good for the price. Yes, if I had the cash, I'd probably get a better brand. However, as a guitar hobbyist on a budget, Xaviere does the trick just fine.
good content
What's the name of your surf band? Any videos up?
I enjoyed this, kind of illuminating that the $240 Xaviere hangs in there well against the high end name brands.
I think by feel id much rather play the plus or the prs, but sound quality wise its all subjective.
Yeah do they play 4 or 5 times better? Of course you are right though, and I am glad they are all available.
@@60CycleHumcast I'm curious what can be done to improve the feel of the Xaviere? Would that require some filing the fret edges, crown and leveling?
Nice video. I wish there were more of me to give it more likes
I think that, for the money, the PRS is the one to buy. The Player Plus is nice, but there are sooo many guitars that can compete with it, for less money, I just don't find them to be worth their price. That Xavier would be a great platform for some modifications to make a killer guitar for even less though.
Ryan
Have you ever plaid a Big Lou guitar? I'm a 35 year master auto tech. Also 6'2" 450lbs so sausage fingers is accurate! LMAO
I'm just learning to play after a life time of wanting to but to busy working. Now early retirement I run out of reasons not to get it done, but I could not find electric guitars that I could play with out killing next string over. So I went on a search for electrics with wide nut like my acoustic. Only one company out there. Unless you can afford custom PRS, Gibson.
Big Lou wide nut guitars! Affordable good quality guitars. All models just under $400 and sound great to me. I have the Roadster ( Les Paul Inspired) in Emerald great modeling finish.
I'm also assembling a Donner Seeker (HSS / split on bridge humbucker super strat) with the 2" Big Lou neck I ordered in for $100ps smooth Satan finish on neck African Black wood fret board frets are polished great.
Check them out. If Lou would let ya. I would love to hear your impression
You can get an extra wide nut neck from Warmoth and just mod any Strat.
Player Plus is heavy because the Noiseless P'ups have extra winding to buck hum... hefty. Fun video!
I've never seen a set of pickups with an extra pound of winding.
@@riffraff1350 13.9 Oz says Amazon so maybe a half pound extra?
@@BlugubriousMusic It looks like the Fat 50's weigh 9.6 oz. The SS SE pickups are wound hot and have extra pole pieces so its got to be close so about 1/4 pound? I have to admit, that's more than I thought. I figure it was a couple of ounces at the most.
@@riffraff1350 Not sure about the PRS... just know those Fender noiseless are very hefty... they won't even fit in a ton of Fender models because they are so tall... as the versions come out (are they on 4 now?) one of their 'features' is less bulky. I still don't love them.
@@BlugubriousMusic Yep, version 4. They sound pretty good for noiseless.
You have that nice blue wall behind you in your garage studio. You could use that as a blue screen and make your studio look like anything you want. Just an idea
I do that on special occasions
Wait, what happened to the paisley foil strat you had?
Love the green strat
I agree with your scoring
This was actually a great rubric!
Hey wow... i just noticed you write with your left... but play right. Are you ambi, or just learned to play right handed because of guitar availability??? Either way, i am impressed. As a right hander, my lefty work is basically useless. i can barely hold a chord with my left hand... which is clearly a problem 😬🤦♂🤭
Im not ambi, I just prefer to fret with my dominant hand.
Objective pickup comparison..... I would have gone with basic tone, are they microphonic? Do they have a pleasing tone...not which one sounds better to your ear... AND the actual monetary value (if possible..or at least the perceived value. What are they "worth"). That is more "objective" in my little brain....🤷🏻♂
none of them are microphonic or have similar quality failures, pleasing tone is subjective because people want different things out of their pickups. Monetary value is objective i guess. Im not sure you can buy the player plus or prs pickups as an aftermarket set, i might be wrong though.
Why do you play your amps so bright? is it your mic? I feel like its incredibly trebly.
The cork sniffing is impressive
I just realized that you are a lefty that plays right handed. Spooky!
Gary Moore, Glen Frey and Mark Knopfler are all left handed and play right. Me too.
go look up pictures of Hendrix signing autographs.
That Tone King sounds great, but I miss the two princetons stinger
Im using the Tone King for guitar videos and the princetons for pedal videos. Long live two princetons.
The PRS is good, but it doesn't say Fender on it. If you later sell them, which one will have cost you the most to own it?
I think if someone is worried about resale value with a guitar they should buy used.
Silver Sky cores are holding value. I suspect the SEs will too.
Should buy a squier classic vibe 50s and set it up! Won’t be disappointed.
Especially the first gen.
Awe man, I only have one strat. I’m jealous.
What the hell is wrong with you?
I have one strat with push in bar and one with screw in. Prefer the screw in bar.
Should the weight of the guitar be ‘weighted’ the same. I believe it should be on the subjective side. A lot of people prefer a strat to weigh in the 8-8.5 lbs range.
I prefer the balance & the more "focussed" sound of a heavier Strat.
I have to say I kinda doubt that people actually prefer heavier guitars -- that's just how 99% of Fenders are because they don't spec lighter wood for their production grade instruments so you end up with an 8.5 lbs monster. On the other, Fender Custom Shops tends to be under 8 lbs. Heck, most of Wildwood's CSs are under 7.5 lbs. Lighter guitars are at a premium.
Perhaps Sweetwater will send you a Sire S7 Vintage to see how it compares.
The partscaster for the win. 🤣😂🤣🎸
Minute '42: "is this a good video???" Haha
Unfortunately, you got the math wrong. On objective, the PRS should have been 21 (even after removing the pickup criteria). The Player would have been 14 under subjective if you gave the worst score to the heaviest guitar.
Doesn't really change the results, but math.
"Is this a good video?" I would say, "yes Mr. Hum."
PRS "Objective" score was 23 before moving pickups to "Subjective"--21 after.
Yeah I screwed up somehow. I swear being on camera kills brain cells.
@@60CycleHumcast it didn't change the outcome much other than tightening the pack of runners-up. 👍
Considering how much less the Xaviere costs then the others, the Xaviere is the winner for me!!
I think you need a measurement row for 'Wang' factor....
Your rating system was very stoned, so I followed it very easily.
Tax return = Player Plus
Overall I like the sound of the Xavier.
Have you ever considered a comparison between clean shaven, fu-man- choo(?), goatee, etc? I think that would be an incredible video. I mean, you can always grow it all back. But just show each transformation as the beard you have disappears. TRY IT !
JJZ…(°¿.°`)
Why was the Xaviere last in playability?
because it felt less playable than the others.
@@60CycleHumcast Thanks for clearing that up! Were the fret ends sharp? Did you not like the shape of the neck? The frets were too big/small? I have one, and after I filed down the fret ends a bit, it played just as well as more expensive Strats I've owned.
Finally, a comparison that feels legitimate.
"Fender makes the best Strat."
Surprise.
Given the Player+ is $300 more than the SS SE, it's not really that legit. A Player doesn't have rolled edges, locking tuners, dressed frets a cheaper bridge and lower QC. It probably doesn't have nearly the same score.
How is weight subjective?
preference for weight is subjective. I don't care if a guitar is slightly lighter or heavier but some people really care about it.
@@60CycleHumcast hey, ill take that. thanks for the reply. Take care
I dunno... I think the best one was not even shown... a nice red Yamaha... *Crosses fingers for giveaway luck...Sends Ju Ju to Emily through comment on Ryans Channel... lolol
It isn't a humbucker on the player series it's a wide range pickup
From fenders site: “A powerful Player Plus humbucking pickups offers just the right amount of gain to yield warm, fat tones with nice string to string note clarity. Player Plus Noiseless Strat® pickups have all the Stratocaster shimmer and quack - without the noise.”
From here the Guitar you made sounded best. But, it was all close.
And the PRS is ugly.
Just do the cleans
Where you had two 2s on pickups, you needed to make the last place Parts a 4.
If weights were ranked, the PRS won the subjective end.
unless you want a guitar thats a little heavier
@@60CycleHumcast But that's true for ALL the subjective stuff so...
I think your calculation is not complete. If you also include the price in the calculation (1 point for the cheapest and 4 points for the most expensive) and the weight (1 point for the lightest and 4 points for the heaviest) the result looks different... I think the selection of categories also has a big influence on the result... ;) and yes, I ordered the PRS SS SE!
Weight matters. A long gig an a heavy guitar means a hurting back.
Strangely enough, I enjoyed the sound of the Xaviere the best.
i own the same color player plus, exact same guitar, why you keep saying the pick guard is mint? its white
The Fender website says "3-Ply Mint Green". Compared to white pickguards its slightly green.
@@60CycleHumcast my bad then, diddnt check the websight. thanks for the quick reply
I really like my American Performer.
omg, put the cover back on the sharpy between using it........
Ok now peel the plastic off of the back of the Xavier tuners. DO IT RYAN!
lol, i did while i was editing this video
@@60CycleHumcast attaboy