JB4 VS KTUNER which is better? Honda Accord 2.0t in depth review!
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- Опубліковано 12 гру 2020
- Heres pretty much everything you will need to know when making a decision on either of these 2 tunes. you really can't go wrong with either. If your looking for that extra edge the Ktuner is for you! If your looking for that extra safety of being less detectable and the option of flex fuel without additional hardware than the JB4 is for you!
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Thanks for your in-depth videos! Happily I just ordered my JB4 based on this review. Since I am an IPHONE guy, and in warranty still with my 2020 2.0 Touring it made the most sense to me. Thank you Sir.
you are a great speaker. Clear and concise.
Thanks for the compliment!
Finally what i was waiting for!!! 👍🏻👍🏻
nice bro thanks for all the things u do for accord owners
Thanks! No problem! I just hope when the time comes to move on to another car/project everyone will stay with me and keep watching.
@@DanVilla7 indeed. hopefully it’s not an american car😂 since most of us are jdm fanboys
@@kamronhd7763 can't eveyone just love me for me not my car...🤣
I appreciate the review. My son just bought a '21 Accord 2.0T. Factory Warranty is an important issue, so we'll definitely go with the JB4 after viewing your video.
No problem! When you're ready to order one if you could please use my link in the description, I'd appreciate it!
Is the JB4 completely undetected by dealerships?
@@Syuurp if you remove it when you go there's no way to tell it was ever there
Great video man, very helpful. Straight to the point, factual, informative, and entertaining - no time wasted and telling us exactly what we want to know. You seem like a cool guy, subscribed. I’m gonna throw the ktuner on a new 2.0. Ran bootmod3 on my f30 past few years and never had issues so I’m willing to take the slight warranty risk once again, given even the bimmer held up. Thanks again for the good content man
Thanks my man, really appreciate it!
Thanks for the informative video on something really niche! I was trying to find something online comparing them and thankfully your video popped up explaining them both further.
No problem, I was looking for the samething lol
Thank you for the honesty and epic review, very in-depth. You rock sir!
Thanks I appreciate it!
Great review! I’ve been tuning cars for years and for my daily (2.0 Accord) I bought the JB4. Very satisfied with the performance and value. Keep up the great reviews!
I’m also running jb4 on 2.0t 10 spd…..curious what map do you run it in? And what octane?
@@snriver1089 I run map 2 and always 93 octane without any problems
What whp you get?
No dyno, ran 13.7 @ 104 with JB4 and 93 only
@@SMuss50 how do those numbers compare to stock
Thanks a lot Dan,much appreciated!
You got it!
Glad I chose the KTuner v2 touch. Seems like the more proper way to tune.
When you put a type r turbo on the Accord and running with e85 it is a rocket ship I just purchased a type r turbo and it pulls away from 392 it has beaten 330i tune it has beat 330i tuned BMWs mustang GT and Camaro SSthe main thing holding the k20c platform back is that you cannot retrofit to K20 I injectors fuel pump or fuel rail prl's working on something now once they do watch out
Are you sure they were racing you?
I've been doing this too long not to know when someone's racing me Friday and Saturday nights We Roll Racing Howard Franklin Gandy Bridge and the causeway still trust me I know when someone's racing me also have a seven and a half Camaro with a 481x ProLine motor with twin 70 mm Precision that makes over 1500 horsepower
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@@IMS0504 mega 🧢
@@joelopez5018 😆
Amazing video for us guys that wanna mod our 2.0
Thank you!
This is a great comparison of the two!
Thank you appreciate it!
Thanks Dan, very good review👍.!
very good information my friend, certainly answers my basic questions.
thank you!
I've heard about the JB4 just don't know anybody that's ever got one. Every person I know has Ktuner or Hondata. Good information in this video though. Thanks for posting it.
My pleasure!
You can also load the tune or tunes onto the ktuner unit separate from your car and then plug it in and flash it from the tunerview app on your phone via b
BT which is super convenient if you don't want to drag your laptop out each time(after your initial setup/locking g to ECU)
Yep, I forgot to mention that during my explanation...🥴
@@DanVilla7 You did great job comparing them!
@@JoseRivera-li8tr Thanks brotha, I appreciate it 🙏!
Thanks for all your contributions to the Accord community. If you still have the K&N maybe throw it back on with the Ktuner or get a tune for it from Innovative Motorworks. Might be better this time.
You're very welcome! Iactually ended up selling it. I'm definitely considering a custom in the future. For now I'm going to enjoy it like this for a bit 👍
Great video and info thank you again!
Thanks! No problem!
Awesome stuff man!!!!
Thanks!
Hey, great video to the point and concise! Have you had any experience with professional car tuned by someone vs these one? Secondly, when it comes to reliability and overall wear and tear on the car, are you concerned if the increase in torque with stock components will cause problem overtime?
Thank you! Not yet but you will still need a ktuner or hondata to have a professional give you a custom tune. Im sure it will shorten the lifespan of some components which is to be expected. There are quite a few people making more power than me and their cars haven't had any failures to date. It's a pretty solid platform.
Honestly i really wish i could tune my 2.0. I just can’t risk voiding my warranty, even with the JB4
At the end of the day you have to feel comfortable with your decision. I went with the JB4 first because of my warranty. So far these cars have proven to be pretty solid drive train wise. I'm confident I will have many more miles without issues being Ktuned.
How much more hp have it added
@@nelsongustave8086 This is quoted from Ktuner :
"Stage 2 Boost targets in Normal/Sport
Up to 88 lb-ft of torque increase over factory
Up to 60whp increase over factory
27whp peak-to-peak
Producing a much more sporty feel, drivability, and additional power throughout the RPM range!"
@@DanVilla7 that's is crazy how much more hp you get
@@nelsongustave8086 yes pretty impressive. A tune is the cheapest dollar per hp mod you can buy
So, i dont have an accord, rather a 2020 Ranger XLT sport with the 2.3 ecoboost. I was originally tuned until the rear dif started making noise so i switched back to stock. Then when i found out the Burger tuning has a JB4 for a ranger of all things i decided to give it a go. I 100 percent agree about a flash tune being better over all, but since we really dont know much regarding reliability for these i decided to try the jb4. Everything you compared i agree with but allow me to add a couple things. Flash tune= can adjust transmission shiftpoints, torque management, pressures, disable skip shift (ranger among others had the 10 speed). The JB4 doesnt do that and because of this a jb4 car is often slower than a protuned car. Other than that. I have no complaints lol. Truck still moves out pretty compared to my previous pro tune, just not as fast. Which is ok lol
I didn't even realize they offered a jb4 for the ranger, they are really spreading their wings im the automotive world. Unfortunately there isn't anything you can do with transmission tuning with the Accord via flash tune like other makes, kinda stinks. Atleast the transmission is pretty responsive as is.
Love the videos man. Congrats on all the subs!
As long as you preinstall the tunes on the ktuner v2, you can change it on the go and won't need the laptop any longer. I downloaded all of them so I just plug the unit in if I want to remap. Also, It downloads your stock tune so you can go back if you ever need to.
Great video like always, good info. Honest opinions.
Thanks appreciate it!
I thought you couldn't go back to stock on this? Was afraid to do it on my 4 day old 2021 Touring, i was told it voids your warranty.
@@FATAL1TYWIICK you can always revert back to stock. It can potentially void your warranty
@@FATAL1TYWIICK if it's only a few days old, you should probably allow all the components to work in a little... Maybe 10k. At least that's what I did.
@@clausehardcastle8649 i got a custom tune the first week of having my car…..had less than 300 miles on it.
The real issue is not having them detect how many times the car has been flashed as much as when you put it back to stock they can look and see the car has only been started a handful of times...meaning if the car has 10k miles on it, but at the dealer its showing the car has been started only 7 times ever they know you've messed with it. That's how they know. How to defeat that? Easy. You need on/off cycles to be logged. so you start/shut down/restart the car a couple hundred times before going in for warranty work.
It makes total sense, but I've never heard of that before. Are you a tech or in the business?
@@DanVilla7 not a tech, just experienced in the world of tuning many things. its all about the key cycles (if they bother to look). only way dealership techs would look is if you break something and are claiming warranty work.
Appreciate the information 👍
@@DanVilla7 glad to help.
Great review! Thanks man!
Appreciate it
nice vid boss .did you change any of the options after you flashed it in the install video ?
Thanks! Not yet still on the initial flash so far so good.
Nice vid, subbed, keep up the good work.
Thank you, appreciate it!
nice video! very in dept which is what a lot of people are looking for! now hopefully we get some races man
Thank you! We'll get something set up...
@@DanVilla7 sick! one thing that surprised me was how the JB4 u said might have even better top end power
@@tomtame954 yeah but I personally rather have consistency vs that once in a while extra bump.
Ktuner can do 3 on the fly tunes as well if programmed. You use the on the fly with the cruise control.
I've tried that doesn't work on the Accord as far as I know.
Great content
Should I get the ktuner first before getting intercooler?
Thanks! I got the ktuner first then got an intercooler later on
Nice review Dan! Glad your happy with the Ktuner. Ktuner also uses the factory safety features such to control knock. So if you get bad gas its not the end of the world. Knock control will retard timing per norm you just wont get the performance. I don't believe you need an extra tune either to run E. There's a setting to enable flex fuel and as long as you have the added kit which has the ethanol sensors. All good stuff! I'm in the process of working w/ Derek Robinson on a custom tune... Having run Ktuner for 2 years I can tell you that's the next step IMO. Enjoy the car! @TOURING18
Thanks! Wasn't totally sure about running some e30 tune wise,but the kit is 100% necessary correct? I've heard nothing but good things about Derek. If I were to go custom tune I would like to take the trip to his shop and have it done over there.
@@DanVilla7 yep you need the kit which i believe has the sensors needed to read ethanol content. From there the software adjusts is my understanding.
@@DanVilla7 You can run E30 without a flex fuel kit, but won't get added power benefits unless you're running a custom tune. I've done so on my Civic 1.5T via custom tune for like 30k miles, with no issues. My newest custom tune (1st was by Vit Viper) was done by Derek Robinson. Flex fuel kit makes things much more convenient, probably overall safer, but isn't a neccesity by any means.
@@GoDsSoN770 thanks for the info 👍
Nice video. I probably have a stupid question so sorry...do you know if any of these tuners remove the restriction on cruise control not working over 90mph? I need more reason to buy one than just acceleration I guess lol
Not that I am aware of I may have to test that. But 90 on cruise control?? Lol 😆
@@DanVilla7 Oh yeah it's not something I do alot but on some long highway trips it has annoyed me. I guess it's a testament to how well this car drives at high speeds.
I tuned mine with ktuner and i changed some sittings and i just pick the same tune on the drop downand the sitting would be to want ktuner had them
Great review! How would you compare performance of an Accord K tuner vs 335 you had?
I would say that my Ktuned Accord 2.0t with a downpipe may be able to pull a win against a stock 335i with the n55. I had a JB4 on the 335i and it was a pretty serious car, the accord wouldn't be able to keep up, especially when I would run some e30 it pulled like a freight train so much tq . It was also an Xdrive so it was able to put all the power to the ground
Thank you, I didn't drive 10 spd Accord, but I've tried both 6 spd 2.0 stock vs 6 spd 2.0 Ktuner stage 2 Accord. The difference is substantial. I was surprised by immediate low end pull of Ktuned Accord.
No problem. The 10spd has been proven to be faster than the 6spd. Its a pretty good automatic but a manual is always more fun to drive. These things make a heap of tq down low and spool super fast once ktuned
great video!
Thanks!
Hey Dan... I’m at point of tuning my 2.0.. I’m in the Dallas Fort Worth Texas area.. not hardly anybody doing tuning down here so there aren’t very many options was far as getting the most out of the Ktuner. But what I wanted to ask you about the Ktuner...how many tunes are loaded on the KT when you bought?? Since you have installed it, are you using one of the out of the box tunes or have you taken your car and had it Dyno tuned? I had heard that the stage 2 is a decent basic tune,, is that what you were running in your KT videos?? If so, which JB4 tune would you compare the KT stage 2 with?? I’m leaning towards the KT but like I said not very good tuners in the area..
Does the jb4 remove the top speed limiter ? I got gapped last Saturday by a Audi A6 3.0 and I was looking Down at 125 🤦🏽♂️ wishing it would go more. I have 2.0t btw
The jb4 will not remove the factory speed limiter although you will get there a lot faster. You would need a flash tune like ktuner or hondata to remove it.
I also have a 2022 T2.0 is there anyway I can tune my car to get better MPG?
I’m currently only getting 16mpg in the city on Eco mode
you do not need to pay for the stage 2 tune and enabling flex fuel its all free and should come up under your enables on the left of the ktuner screen on the laptop. I run the flex fuel on my accord and ktuner stage 2
Thanks!
You still need the e85 hardware with the ktuner
@@I_will_show_you_monkey yes I have the prl flex fuel kit. Super easy install and works flawlessly with the Ktuner. Highly recommend. Definitely feel the power difference under the flex fuel map.
Best $1000 ever spent. Ktuner with flex fuel kit. Amazing difference. Prl high flow cold air intake. My intake was 350 on top of the thousand
So Ktuner can erase check engine lights, but like you say. The light is off but does it still mess with the O2 sensor Behind the scenes per say? does it mess with cats and O2 sensors? Behind check engine lights? Thanks for doing this work man, I know it takes a lot of time to do
It turns the light off because your turning that particular monitor off. For me it's the p0139 code. This is what the P0139 code means. P0139 is the OBD-II generic code indicating that the O2 sensor for bank 1 sensor 2 failed to have a voltage drop below . 2 volts for 7 seconds during a deceleration fuel cut off. This failure shows that the engine control module (ECM) has determined the sensor response is too slow.
@@DanVilla7 got it. But you need to continually erase light? Thanks
@@damacknificent151 nope you turn that particular code off and your done.
Just ordered k tuner because I have mods to the exhaust, specifically 1 cat removed on 18 Acura Tlx Aspec & my check engine keeps coming on, it's a p0420 code which is catalytic converter performing below threshold so I'm gonna disable the secondary 02 sensor
Your awesome 👌 thnx
So which one is better?
When buying the JB4 did you by the wireless mobile smart phone kit?
Yes, It's not necessary bacause you can use a computer to change tunes. I personally think the wireless kit is the best way to go
I've got the 21 TLX type s & have been debating on which one to install, I already have a K tuner which was for my previous TLX aspec but I always gotta be careful with the whole warranty thing.
If your worried about your warranty best bet would be the jb4. I can provide you with a link if you need it.
@@DanVilla7 I've decided to go with K tuner because when I thought about it I flashed my 2018 TLX Aspec multiple times and the dealer never said anything so I think I'm good to go
@@djsthemetereman they really won't say anything unless there's a failure.
@@DanVilla7 Yeah True
Purchased the 2020 sport 2.0t it’s still stock Cali resident . What should be my first up grade . I’m thinking exhaust . I haven’t upgraded or tuned a Honda sense my 2001 civic si so yeah been a minute. But I want to play a. It
I would say an intake before exhaust if you want sound. I'm not particularly fond of the sound of these. I've tried lol. If you weren't in cali I'd say get a tune for sure. A jb4 is a great option
Does this f -up your car in time??
I was thinking of getting mine tuned on a dyno. Do you think it’s worth it or should I just buy a ktuner
You will still need a ktuner or hondata to have it custom tuned.
Hey Dan. Is it an option to put a Civic Type R chip in an Accord 2.0T to access more horsepower and torque ?
Not possible
Haha...jacked up Accord and nobody says anything about the Graco baby seat in the back...
There's 2 of those bad boys back there. Best mod there is! When they aren't in the car time for fun. When they are with me it's a family wagon that looks good still
@@DanVilla7 ...nice to see you have a family and still have fun time to yourself...cherish them both....oh...and keep up the great content...
How was the throttle response in normal mode with the jb4 ?? I was looking to improve that … I feel my 2.0 is sluggish with the throttle response
Throttle response isn't changed with it but you will hit more boost faster so may feel like better throttle response if that makes sense. The sluggishness is probably just a little turbo lag.
I told ya! Flash tunes always better than piggy 🐷 back! Thanks time to buy mines now! 😈
Ps: maybe boost might not as high but ignition timing is more aggressive making up for that 1psi boost spike. Also does the torque spike or does it gradually come in to avoid transmission damage? I would love to see the difference in power over a stock accord.
Hahah yes, I gave you and the others they're props in the video.
The way I have it set up right now, as soon as you stomp on it, it hits full boost almost instantly pretty awesome! You can adjust it to your linking, it's just my initial settings.
@@DanVilla7 yeah i saw that 😆 thanks
Are there any other options to get rid of the check engine light when you put the dp on without getting a ktuner?
Maybe a better defouler would work, otherwise a flash tune that can turn the p0139 code off is your only option
@@DanVilla7 what do you mean by defouler? You think a mechanic would be able to take it off for me?
@@CakeFladudle a mechanic will not ve able to turn it off, you need tuning software. See this video so you can see what a defouler is (basically an elbow that the o2 sensor connects to)ua-cam.com/video/27QyRXEDLEU/v-deo.html
Do the JB4 cables have to be plugged in while you driving around with the JB4 tune?
Yes
Can you change the tunes for each of the standard/eco/sport modes?
It's not able to do that
Ever dyno with with jb4? I have it on my type r with a prl intercooler catback intake and im curious what it will make
I never got around to it. I will probably do a custom tune with ktuner so I will get some numbers. Either way type R numbers will be more impressive than Accord numbers
when getting the tuner do you have to send in your eco to get unlocked or is it pretty ,much plug and play?, for example the tuner v2 with the little touch screen gauge,
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Plug and play. There's link in the description for the V1.2 like I have and the V2
@@DanVilla7 oh okay thank you very much
4:05 whats flashing your ECU?
Flashing is like reprogramming
I want to buy the ktuner but do i need a professional to install it or can i just do it myself with a video
You can do it yourself. I have a video on how to install it. I also have a link in the description for both versions of the ktuner
Lmao! me too brother. I hear a rattle or a light on my dash. That's a problem for me.
That ocd starts kickin in lmao
Dam.with that K tuner. That shit looks like a it pulls hard. I have. 2.0 touring debating k tuner or hondata
Check out some of my newer videos. I'm running phearable stage3 with my ktuner pulls even harder now
Do you know if the Ktuner removes the top speed limiter ? I can’t go any faster than 135mph and the car feels like it can go faster the whole 160mph.
I mentioned that in the video. Yes
Great video i know the 2.0 tops out at 126mph fuel cutoff i saw fuelcutoff on computer settings do you know what the car can be adjusted to without cutoff ?
@@letdothisman1139 Once you remove the limiter all depends on your mods to keep pushing through the wind because that's the only thing stopping you from going faster
I might potentially be getting a 2021 accord 2.0 Touring. I am definitely scared to flash the computer especially being brand new and leased. How is the overall traction in the accord with the JB4? I test drove a 2.0 the other day and had wheel spin just stock haha. I am in all honesty trying to get the TLX AWD, but the package I want kinda knocks it out of budget for the time being.
Traction isn't so good with the jb4. It's fine from a roll but terrible from a dig. The oem tires play a huge roll in that
@@DanVilla7 hmmm okay. Sadly, the TLX doesn't seem to be working out making it more and more likely it will be an accord in my driveway soon haha. I am going to see if they can, as part of the deal, swap the rims/tires with something else so they aren't the 19" low profiles. They really kill the smoothness of the ride. I just hope it doesn't alter the speedometer at all.
If you’re leasing you may run into problems with a flash tune
@@adamb3129 I actually managed to get the 21' TLX Advance SH-AWD. I am sadly having many issues with it and haven't even had the thought of tuning it. I am trying to get a replacement vehicle actually.
@@mikeydude319 oh man I’m sorry hear that. What type of issues? Are they going to give you a new car?
Will my 2012 honda run well if I use shell plus 89 gas on stage 1 or stage 2 I just want a little more power or high end power my car is really good for the low end torque
Doesn't matter what car you have. If it's tuned, run the highest octane you have available. It keeps the motor safe.
@@DanVilla7 if you use premium gas then which gas company would you go with since my research suggests that you need top tier detergent gas which I believe shell only advertises after reading the cars manual
@@theanimeotaku2794 I use Shell or Sunoco
What are you lowered on bro
H&R lowering springs
@@DanVilla7 thanks Dan appreciate it man
Can u use jb4 for 2017 accord sport?
Unfortunately you can't, the jb4 is only compatible with factory turbo charged applications
What’s the 0-60 on each?
I'm not sure need a draggy to test it
Hey Dan, I have a very good question to ask you since I own a 2021 Honda Accord 2.0T Sport the Super Sonic Gray. I'm having a hard time trying to decide which tune to get for my car. I would like to find a way to remove the speed limiter? If possible to please give me a proper information on this situation. Thanks
You would need a flash tune like ktuner to do that. I have a link in the description for both versions of ktuner as well as the jb4
So which tuner would be better to purchase for my car? Hondata, Ktuner, JB4 or perishable
@@tre831 all depends on your needs and wants I cover pretty much everything you would want to know in this video
So Ktuner would be my best bet then! Which Ktuner version do I need tho cause I kno you said Ktuner has V1 and v2.
If you dont have an android device for the tuner view app, I'd recommend the v2
What about the hondata for the Honda 2.0t
My question is will it void the warranty the hondata is made by Honda
Hondata is not made by Honda from my understanding. It will be the same as any other flash tune as far as thats concerned. So it's all preference and your needs/wants
Hondata is not made by Honda guaranteed. And your right its just preference. Both are great. Oh please dont be stupid and run e without getting the ethanol sensors. I would gate for you to mess up your car/injectors.
Ktuner vs Burger ?
Yes
Are you selling your jb4?
I have already sold it.
@@DanVilla7 damn thanks anyways
@@2.0NYC no problem
Test 0.100 and 0- 200 km
I could only test the Ktuner now the jb4 has been sold. Here's some ktuner #'s
ua-cam.com/video/39M-iM-Ptp0/v-deo.html
Sonata n line 💪
Gets gapped by the accord all day. Lmao
No actually, type in k5 vs accord 2.0. That statement is wrong lol
So k tuner better 👍🏾
For what I need now, and my preferences yes definitely better
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Tuning a 4-banger family sedan...lol.