Great video mate! Definitely going to try your process on some copper leaf projects I've got going on. Also, You are hysterical. BBC should hire you for a show!
I use a piece of wax paper , place it over the leaf, as it clings statically , then press down and it clings onto leaf, pick it up and lay it on the surface, rub gently with a cloth, lift the wax paper. And then repeat till done. Burnish with a soft cloth over the wax paper so it doesn’t tear!!
Have you tried using a spray bottle instead of a brush to do the color transformation on gilding? I'd like to see a video where you try that to avoid the leaf tearing.
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I've not myself ever used this type of medium. However it sure definitely looks like it's worth a try. Thank you so much for listing that book. Many blessings to you Matt!
Hi Matt, Good work on your channel and success. I particularly like the fact that you didn't let not having your own power tools stop you from pursuing your dream. Cheers Andy, Australia
Experimenting with every type of paint varnish and other unusual wood finishes is my absolute favorite way of wasting money :D ! but sometimes it's just amazing and in the end it's all worth it !
Just on this, maybe a good way of not risking the leaf ripping as you add the sulfur solution would be to to just place a paper towel over the leaf and then spray that with the solution. That way, you'd be able to get a fairly rigorous application of it, without leaving spray marks or having the brush pull up the material. Then you can just lift the paper towel up at the end and dab it dry with a clean one!
Cool video, thanks for sharing. I think the limitation is surface, it might be better on large surfaces than smaller ones. Might go well on the base case you still need to built.
Is your liquid still warm? I would say that seize (Mixtion in German) is heat sensitiv. Maybe you also need to burnish the metal it a bit more when applying for proper contact. It is also said the 12h is better than the 3h. Maybe fingerprints on the seize? Maybe this is why guilding is an proper trade and not an hobby, too many maybe´s.:-) I find your videos extremely well done. You really explain what and how i would explain myself. Thanks!
If you want to reverse the reaction then you could try putting some vinegar with salt mixed in on it. Mixing vinegar and salt actually produces (very dilute) hydrochloric acid, which is good at dissolving patinas from metals. You'll have to get it off quickly, though, or it might dissolve the whole leaf away. If you want to give it a try just mix some vinegar and salt in a bowl and throw in a penny, it should brighten up before your eyes.
Do you know what the open time is on the oil size? 3 hour size is 3 hours to go tacky and 3 hours to dry but how long of that 3 hours can you use to apply leaf? Secondly I'd be interested to find out how much of the colouration remains once you apply a finish. My experience is that the colours all but disaappear with a wax finish
Do you have to have wood underneath? Can I just do this to the copper/zinc leaf on its transfer sheet then transfer onto paper? Or need to do it after I've attached it to paper?
Eighth!! Cause that's a thing. Very cool video. Leafing is super fragile, When I've seen other people use it they generally lift it from the paper with a knife or other tool, it might just be your fingers (oils and what not) that cause it to tear.
I'm guessing that you would indeed get similar effects on thicker metals. These are (if i'm right) all surface reactions. You might also want to check out some of Ben Crowe's experiments with copper patination over on the Crimson Guitars channel. Obviously the point of the leafs used here is that it will conform easily (too easily?) to the surface of the wood, if that is what you want to do. Thicker metal sheets will probably require hammering to make it conform to the shape of the wood. I'm sure there is a proper term for that!
Try spraying the smelly stuff, and wait for the reaction. Someone else sprinkles salt on it when it's wet. Also, vinegar can be sprayed on, then sprinkle on salt. Someone else sprays pure alcohol and lights it on fire.
Heads up.. if you ever need to sniff something that is offense, a Laboratory trick is to hold your breath first then take a sniff and you will not get the whole offensive smell only a bit. ;-) Love the video,thanks for sharing.
"a proper eggy fart"? Really? What would an improper eggy fart by like? This sounds like something that might be part of a proper noxious emission database. Have you compiled one?
Great video mate! Definitely going to try your process on some copper leaf projects I've got going on. Also, You are hysterical. BBC should hire you for a show!
I use a piece of wax paper , place it over the leaf, as it clings statically , then press down and it clings onto leaf, pick it up and lay it on the surface, rub gently with a cloth, lift the wax paper. And then repeat till done. Burnish with a soft cloth over the wax paper so it doesn’t tear!!
So interesting and what a wonderful finish! Absolutely loved! Thanks for sharing!
Have you tried using a spray bottle instead of a brush to do the color transformation on gilding? I'd like to see a video where you try that to avoid the leaf tearing.
Fantastic video Matt! Something I've never thought of doing on wood until you shared that.
That vase is amazing. Your guitar is even better!
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I've not myself ever used this type of medium. However it sure definitely looks like it's worth a try. Thank you so much for listing that book. Many blessings to you Matt!
Hi Matt,
Good work on your channel and success. I particularly like the fact that you didn't let not having your own power tools stop you from pursuing your dream.
Cheers Andy, Australia
Great tutorial video! Really enjoyed watching. Thanks so much for sharing.
Thanks Matt! I have never seen anyone do Gilding/Patination. Learned something today. Nice!
Would you recommend putting a lacquer or epoxy on after all of this to make sure it doesn't flake off?
Had the same question in mind
Experimenting with every type of paint varnish and other unusual wood finishes is my absolute favorite way of wasting money :D ! but sometimes it's just amazing and in the end it's all worth it !
Interesting stuff! I'm about to attempt some gold leaf on wood. Crazy stuff...it's like gold vapour. I read it's typically 500 atoms thick!
Nice switch up! Hope to see more videos like this in the future!
Ammonium sulphate will get you some nice greens and blues on the copper. It doesn’t smell either and it’s cheap. About 10 quid for a kg
keep up the great vids
Very cool! Never knew this could be done. I am going to try now :)
A strong colour under the leaf would leave an interesting effect where the leaf does come off 🤔
Just on this, maybe a good way of not risking the leaf ripping as you add the sulfur solution would be to to just place a paper towel over the leaf and then spray that with the solution. That way, you'd be able to get a fairly rigorous application of it, without leaving spray marks or having the brush pull up the material. Then you can just lift the paper towel up at the end and dab it dry with a clean one!
Love how he says "the shop will be uninhabitable," and immediately goes to sniff the jar of geyser perfume!
Wonderful video thanks dude. First thing I've found with patinas and leaf, seems so hard to come by info on this!?
I’ve used gold leaf on frames and this technique would be great for them.
Gold is inert...don't think it's amenable to this kinda thing.
holy this looks so cool im gonna try that next week. wooden greeting from germany. i lov ur vids btw.
you should buy and air brush and use it to apply the patina finish stuff i wonder if it would leave a better more even finish
Very cool. Love your vids!
Cool video, thanks for sharing. I think the limitation is surface, it might be better on large surfaces than smaller ones. Might go well on the base case you still need to built.
Is your liquid still warm? I would say that seize (Mixtion in German) is heat sensitiv. Maybe you also need to burnish the metal it a bit more when applying for proper contact. It is also said the 12h is better than the 3h. Maybe fingerprints on the seize? Maybe this is why guilding is an proper trade and not an hobby, too many maybe´s.:-) I find your videos extremely well done. You really explain what and how i would explain myself. Thanks!
squrewwel hair been trying to get some but there's never in the barber shop:P, great vid matt
I thought you were being rude to him for a moment, I thought his hair ain’t that messy.
If you want to reverse the reaction then you could try putting some vinegar with salt mixed in on it. Mixing vinegar and salt actually produces (very dilute) hydrochloric acid, which is good at dissolving patinas from metals. You'll have to get it off quickly, though, or it might dissolve the whole leaf away. If you want to give it a try just mix some vinegar and salt in a bowl and throw in a penny, it should brighten up before your eyes.
Could you try airbrushing the “liver” mixture onto the leaf?
Completely fascinating. I'd love to know how you would protect the surface in the end product.
Probably lacquer or you could use renaissance wax
Great video :) What do you do for sealing the finish after your don? It seems quite britlee and I assume there must be an extra coat of protection.
Maje a part two with household materials :D
Oh god, you're never gonna get those tiny metal leaf confetti cleaned from everywhere :)
You need to burnish the gilding for it to get maximum adhesion. I reckon that’s your problem.
Do you know what the open time is on the oil size? 3 hour size is 3 hours to go tacky and 3 hours to dry but how long of that 3 hours can you use to apply leaf? Secondly I'd be interested to find out how much of the colouration remains once you apply a finish. My experience is that the colours all but disaappear with a wax finish
Hey Matt could you try some black hair dye out as a finish also blue and red
Do you have to have wood underneath? Can I just do this to the copper/zinc leaf on its transfer sheet then transfer onto paper? Or need to do it after I've attached it to paper?
10:17 Why not save that piece of leaf?
Only time I'll ever hear nice and stale urine together in one sentence
Eighth!! Cause that's a thing. Very cool video. Leafing is super fragile, When I've seen other people use it they generally lift it from the paper with a knife or other tool, it might just be your fingers (oils and what not) that cause it to tear.
This could potentially be used on a guitar body 😮
Although it'd take a while. Worth it though.
Already done, 1950’s les Paul Goldtop, used real copper flakes in the lacquer, after 60 years they look amazing.
14:39 Whooooah!
Is there a video on how you did the vase?
I wonder if protection from the fumes could be considered? Especially oxidising aluminium fumes..
Can this be coated with poly?
Did you let it dry for the full 3 hours after gilting before putting the eggfart on?
This is pretty cool, how durable is it? Would it hold up ok as a coffee table?
Thanks, never seen this before.
Even with the damage to the leaf - they still look amazing. Do these chemicals work on more substantial metal as well as metal leaf; do you know?
I'm guessing that you would indeed get similar effects on thicker metals. These are (if i'm right) all surface reactions. You might also want to check out some of Ben Crowe's experiments with copper patination over on the Crimson Guitars channel.
Obviously the point of the leafs used here is that it will conform easily (too easily?) to the surface of the wood, if that is what you want to do. Thicker metal sheets will probably require hammering to make it conform to the shape of the wood. I'm sure there is a proper term for that!
It didn’t work on the gold or silver leaf. It just sat in the top as if there was a coating in it. Any ideas 🤔 where you do buy your gold leaf from
You can’t patina real gold leaf
hello sir, can i do this finish on copper products?
Very cool
Try spraying the smelly stuff, and wait for the reaction. Someone else sprinkles salt on it when it's wet. Also, vinegar can be sprayed on, then sprinkle on salt. Someone else sprays pure alcohol and lights it on fire.
Heads up.. if you ever need to sniff something that is offense, a Laboratory trick is to hold your breath first then take a sniff and you will not get the whole offensive smell only a bit. ;-) Love the video,thanks for sharing.
YEss mai son - I'm liking this
Cool!
You the man
awesome vid. Think if i remember right stink bomb was sulfur dioxide. Bad smell !
A squirrel went missing to make the brush for this video.
J/K.
My cat could get a job.
That squirrel will be back after he no longer has that bald spot.
I think you should do a low angle jack plane video. How to set it up for different actions and how to use it for those actions.
"a proper eggy fart"? Really? What would an improper eggy fart by like? This sounds like something that might be part of a proper noxious emission database. Have you compiled one?
@Rick Shaffer:- Think you might have to ask Johnny Fartpants out of Viz comics. I would think he has done extensive research in this area.
@Tim Beaton: Haven't made M. Fartpants' acquaintance. I'm more of a fan of the French digestive philosopher Jean Paul Phartre.
Not to mention, the "Descartes" of this field. M. Le Petomane. Who's motto *should* have been, "Flatus, ergo sum"
(But probably wasn't!)
PS for non-classical scholars, this translates from the Latin as..." I stink, therefore I am"
really NOT milieu friendly. i don t like it. i think we need more responsibility for our future
Even Marmite is disgusting, at least for a non British taste.
Rubish…Waste of time…
If you have that much time you can send a rocket to moon instead of finishing a piece of timber.
First thumbs up. I must win something? And first comment?
The admiration of all of those folks that are subscribed! :)
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