Mark Felt was the name of deepthroat. He was deputy director of the FBI during this time. Died in 2008 or 2009, believe Woodward kept that a secret until after he passed. The book is a very good read, too. Thank you for the reaction, love the next two you have lined up this week.
Woodward vowed to keep the secret until after Deep Throat died, but "In 2005, at age 91, Felt revealed to Vanity Fair magazine that during his tenure as Deputy Director of the FBI he had been the notorious anonymous source known as "Deep Throat",[1][2] who provided The Washington Post reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein with critical information about the Watergate scandal, which ultimately led to the resignation of President Richard Nixon in 1974. Woodward, who had long vowed not to reveal Deep Throat's identity while the source was still alive, quickly confirmed Felt's claim. Though Felt's identity as Deep Throat was suspected, including by Nixon himself,[3] it had generally remained a secret for 30 years. Felt finally acknowledged that he was Deep Throat after being persuaded by his daughter to reveal his identity before his death."
Actually, Felt came out and admitted it in 2005 and Woodward confirmed it. At the time, Felt was dealing with Alzheimers. His name had been mentioned during the scandal, but he denied it at the time. The supposed reason for his telling Woodward all of the secrets was because he was upset that he was passed over when they were searching for a new FBI director in 1972 after the death of J. Edgar Hoover.
As an official "old"... it was amazing to see this movie and the Watergate movies (another great one is: Frost/Nixon 2008) and then finding out who Deep Throat was. I wish Journalism (capital "J" intented) was still a thing.
@@bradsullivan2495 Woodward surmised that that was his motive. He didn't say that it was. He couldn't remember anything about Watergate by that time. He did tell Woodward he had always thought well of him.
Back in the good ole days, when a news editor demanded multiple sources and people on the record before publishing. Sigh, I miss those days. You guys might like 3 Days of the Condor, a Redford movie where he plays a guy caught up in political intrigue. He does those "conspiracy" roles well. Very believable and credible actor.
Minor media outlets barely have the manpower to get a newspaper out or fill a half hour of air-time nowadays, so they don't spend time on hard-hitting reports anymore. They might cover a local government meeting once in a while, but otherwise they just cover local community events and fill the rest of their paper or broadcast with either press releases or canned content from the likes of AP.
Reputable papers still require all that stuff. Many stories run with sources that are on the record but anonymous; that’s nothing new and ultimately necessary for journalism.
The key character in Bob Woodward's part of the investigation, Deep Throat, was a gentleman named Mark Felt. He happened to be the Deputy Director of the FBI. Woodward and Mr. Felt held onto this fact until well after the year 2000, when Mr. Felt was quite old. He finally faced the press and admitted his role in the Watergate investigation, and everyone finally knew who Deep Throat really was. Mr. Felt passed about a year after this revelation. Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein are still active reporters and writers to this day.
This is one of the best movies of the 1970s and arguably the best film ever made about journalism. It won 4 Academy Awards including Best Screenplay and Best Supporting Actor for Jason Robards as Ben Bradlee. Countless people have said they wanted to be reporters after this movie came out.
This was a very convincing movie for young people considering going into journalism at the time. Too bad the movie is complete fiction -- just as what WaPo published in real life. IMHO it is beyond fiction and a deliberate lie.
20:46. "That's quite the boys' club!" Two of the actors around that table were also around the table in "12 Angry Men" almost 20 years earlier. In fact, Martin Balsam is sitting at the head of the table, just like he did as the foreman of the jury. And the red-haired editor is Jack Warden, who played the juror with the baseball tickets burning a hole in his pocket.
I simply CANNNOT BELLIEVE how UNINFORMED and flat out DUMB tjpse two are!!!! It was a "boys club" back then--because hiring policies were different then. They watched the ENTIRE FILM and at the END of it, don't even know that it is about REELECTING Richard M. Nixon as President! When THROUGHOUT THE FILM it says at LEAST a HALF DOZEN TIMES if not MORE--that the "funds"/bribes were part of the "RE-ELECT the PRESIDENT! So of COURSE it was for a 2ND TERM! And NOT about how "cute" Dustin Hoffman IS/WAS or "sexy"" Robert Redford is/was!! And we wonder WHY so many sheltered Millennials are going to single handedly DESTROY the country because you Don't Know ANYTHING about Government?!? “We're under a lot of pressure, you know, and you put us there,” Robards' says. “Nothing's riding on this except the, uh, First Amendment to the Constitution, freedom of the press and maybe the future of the country. Not that any of that matters, but if you guys f- up again, I'm going to get mad. Good night.” Dangerous Morons!!
Now the worst "reporters" are paid millions of dollars and a lifestyle they know they can never afford to continue with their limited skill set, so they never risk digging deep to report the truth.
True, but overstated. Watergate was not motivated by money, it was only enabled by unaccountable campaign donations. Neither was the money pivotal to the investigation. There was a time when the money trail was all that the Post and the Times had, but that trail pretty much ran dry, and it took much more information from Deep Throat to keep the investigation alive. Watergate and Washington D.C. investigations since then are not just about following the money, so that aphorism is more like 50% true and useful than 1000%.
Fun fact: the security guard you see in the film finding the tape over the lock is the actual security guard from the Watergate Hotel who made the call that got all of this started! Oh, and Pierre Trudeau was PM here, and I started off on a manual typewriter (my mom's)...and it was fun!
Fun fact2... In World War 2 Miami DA Dardis helped save a downed pilot from being captured. That pilot was Kenneth Dahlberg, but Dardis never knew his name, so he didn't recognize it when he saw the Dahlberg check.
I think it's one of the few movies that did the book justice. It's one of those flicks where you think, "Okay, okay..." and then "What in the actual hell?" Great recommendation!
I am German and 62 years old. There was a time in the 70s when really brilliant films were being made in the USA. Luckily they were translated/dubbed into German and sent to us. For someone who is very interested in history and politics like me, these films were/are a revelation. I count them among the milestones in film history. Thank you for reviewing this film. If you don't know your history (yours and ours), you don't understand the present.
@CDavis-wo2hp I didn't say that there aren't any good films coming out of the USA anymore. But I was born in 1962, which means that films like the one discussed were important for my development as a politically minded person. When the subject matter of a film touches a person directly, something is triggered. This goes far beyond the film. This time was extremely important and laid the foundation, whether positive or negative, for many events that still have an impact today. And yes, the volume of shit productions has increased dramatically. When I see the social developments, it's no wonder.
Each film features a person called Ben Bradlee - The one in Spotlight is Ben Bradlee Jr, the son of the person in All The Presidents Men! I love that weird link between the two stories of journalism
YES!! Definitely hoping "Spotlight" is a film they react to, as that and "All the President's Men" are great "newspaper" movies, so to speak lol. Really getting into the process of investigative journalism and reporting.
Still one of the greatest scripts ever written. Credit goes to Redford who really was the driving force to getting this made. One of the best films of the 70’s in a decade filled with great films…❤❤
very poor storytelling, poorly constructed, poorly executed divulging of details and series of happenings Pakula doesn't know how to tell a story in the slightest (like I doubt he could even do a good job relaying a simple 3 minute thing that happened), and trying to tell a complex story with details and varying motivations seriously feels like a 10 year old trying to take on a major carpentry project seriously - just NO. and with that, this feels like middle-school boys playing at make-believe investigators and it plays like a big joke rather than heavy political 'it really happened' profound awe like it should and tries to pretend it does failed scene after failed scene after failed scene, and if you don't know anything about the subject matter or details going into it you will not come away from this knowing what the fuck any of it had to do with anything, why it mattered, what place it played in history, or anything at all (even how it affected the reporters lives, what they went through - nothing is depicted in this movie), and I'd be surprised if anyone who didn't know anything could even make it through this without complete and utter frustration (assuming they have a working brain, which is only maybe 10% of audiences these days) 3.9/10
Alan J. Pakula was the director of this minor masterpiece. Sadly forgotten today. He had a very distinct visual style, perfectly suited for these kinds of movies. His masterpiece (albeit flawed) is the 1974 film “The Parallax View”. Truly original director that died under strange circumstances in 1998. Check out his Wikipedia page for more information about him. Cheers 🍺
Hoffman's career was on fire during this period. He played everything from a depressed college grad to a street hustler to Carl Bernstein and got 4 Oscar nominations in 12 years, though he wasn't nominated for this movie. His first win was three years after this in Kramer vs. Kramer.
I cannot believe I just saw a reaction to "All The President's Men". That was beyond fantastic! And the edit was incredible! I can't imagine that is an easy movie to cut down. Whomever edited this reaction video is a master! The clarity of the story could not be better. And this is a movie that NOBODY follows every strand of the scandal strictly by watching this movie (that's a task much better suited for books!). And so happy you got to see more Dustin Hoffman! He's right next to Nicholson and De Niro and Pacino and Hackman, as far as incredible performances in top shelf classics. Can't wait for you to see "Tootsie", and "The Graduate" and "Midnight Cowboy" and "Little Big Man" and "Death Of A Salesman" and......🤣 You've now seen my favorite Robert Redford movies: All The President's Men and Butch Cassidy. Redford had a big hand in getting this movie made. You can see a great clip of him with the real Woodward and Bernstein, an hour long interview with an audience, really great.
I totally agree with you. When I saw the thumbnail and the title, my eyes got tear-eyed from joy and happiness. The editing of the reaction is top notch!
I remember thinking that this film would not be good for neophytes to watch, because it was aimed at an audience who knew the Watergate scandal to the smallest detail, thanks to a solid YEAR of constant televised coverage at the time. But watching this edit, I realize now how good the film was at distilling a very complex investigation into something that anyone could follow and at least get a general understanding of the scandal.
So true, one of my favourite actors. He played the patriarch in a 1987-88 tv version of the "Long Hot Summer" along Don Johnson, and he was freaking excellent in that.
Uncharacteristically for a film, all of the phone conversations had the actors actually speaking to each other in real time.
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Its so interesting seeing these large offices and not a computer or printer in sight ... back when everything was done by leg work and personal communication
Yea, but there sure as heck were shredders in the offices. 🙂Still can't believe, Nixon didn't destroy all the tapes.
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@@Nomad-vv1gk he legally couldn't because they were protected official documents and recordings so all they could do was say they accidentally erased a portion of the tapes and blame it on a secretary.. My how times have changed.. Just ask Hillary about her emails and breaking all those devices
How many Jews were involved in this lawfare? Nixon resigns for some campaign dirty tricks while Bill Clinton gets a blowjob in the office from an employee and our first Muslim president makes an unconstitutional health care mandate.
@@OneAndOnlyMe I'm sorry what? World War II was before my time and I know about it. I'm not even American and I've heard of Watergate, it's called reading and paying attention in class. If you're an American and you've never heard of Watergate, you're an idiot.
@@OneAndOnlyMe To add to that, this is American history and these ladies are Canadian. They wouldn't have much reason to know the details of the Watergate incident even if they were older.
I've worked in journalism for 20 years. At the highest levels of print journalism, it still essentially works as it does in this movie. Unfortunately, fewer and fewer people read those publications. (With the exception of the New York Times, which has never had more readers.) They watch TV or read stuff online or on social media. People consume more commentary today than actual reporting. It's like eating dessert instead of dinner. Eventually, you become ill.
Part of the problem with misinformation is that many, perhaps most media outlets don't report the news accordingly, they in fact give commentary/opinion reporting. Also, they just make things up, take statements out of context, and convey their own agenda's, then call themselves journalists.
And great direction by Alan J Pakula. For example, the opening extreme close-up of typewriter keys hitting paper with incredibly loud bangs lets you know that you are about to watch a story about the power and impact of written words, while also making you sit up straight in your seat. It's absolutely brilliant, and even more effective when you see the film in a theatre.
The guy (Deep Throat)who kept meeting Bob in the garage wasn't corrupt. He was actually 2nd in charge of the FBI. He knew the whole story because the FBI had investigated it all, and thus found out what the story was. But the head of the FBI was very loyal to Nixon and thus ordered it all covered up. Which greatly angered "Deep throat ("Garage guy), and offended his sense of morality. Which is why he was willing to help (in his own way) Bob with the story. Bob and "Deep Throat" had known each other for a while before all this happened
With the current corruption in the FBI and it clearly going back to JFK's assassination (if not earlier), I wouldn't say ANYONE isn't corrupt. When you get down to it, Nixon never admitted to anything - he resigned for the good of the country. I saw an interesting story that the whole thing was a set by the FBI because they wanted to get rid of Nixon. At this point, I'm inclined to believe it over such a ridiculously sensational story like this. In fact Woodward was trying so hard to get his glory days back, chasing down any camera that would follow him during Trump's years that I wouldn't be surprised if he helped manufacture Watergate.
Saying Felt was not corrupt is a bit too simple. He definitely was strongly motivated by his own sense of right and wrong, and he thought of himself as virtuous, not corrupt, but he was also directly involved in black bag operations against U.S. citizens. Those operations were found to be illegal, and Felt was convicted for violating the civil rights of those Americans. He was later pardoned by Reagan.
It may have offended his sense of morality, but the major reason Felt was leaking information was that he was angry at Nixon and Haldeman for passing him up to be head of the Bureau when J. Edgar Hoover died. He thought he'd earned it; Nixon and his team had no intention of appointing a career FBI man to the post and went with a political appointment in L. Patrick Gray.
@@chrishornbostel9831 He was mad about being passed up but that was not the main reason he was doing it. He had a very strong sense of right and wrong. Some thought he was almost too rigid in that way. That was one of the reasons the Nixon administration didn't make him head of the FBI. They thought he was too rigid in his morality to be "trustworthy." His anger at being passed up might have played a part in having him feel no urge to be "loyal" and towing the line despite his sense of right and wrong being violated, but his sense of right and wrong being violated was his primary motive.
Excellent reaction!!! I got so stoked when I got the notification that y'all had uploaded this reaction. This movie was required viewing in high school . I've lost count of how many times I've watched this and it never gets old. Woodward's source, Deep Throat's real name was Mark Felt, he was the #2 guy in charge of the FBI at the time. Woodward confirmed that Felt was Deep Throat after he passed away but it was long suspected by many for years. This movie has so many great actors and actresses and I highly recommend reading the book, it'll fill in a lot of gaps. Again, great reaction! Many blessings to you and yours.
Apart from the suspense and journalism insights, this movie does such a good job showing just how different Woodward & Bernstein were. One left, the other right. One pushy, the other reserved. One street, the other cerebral. Etc etc. One of my favorite moments is when Sloan says he’s a Republican and Woodward admits “So am I” - and Bernstein shoots him that look like “What?!” 🤨😂
I'm always somewhat surprised how You Tube reactors have left a powerful movie like this to gather dust while doing reactions to Batman. Total respect to you both for putting this excellent film on your channel. Redford and Hoffman, both A-List actors of their era, gave excellent performances here. One of the editors you may have noticed was the sports fanatic in "12 Angry Men" and another was the detective in "Psycho." At the time of the scandal, what had happened seemed confusing and watching this movie condensed and clarified events (along with the book of the same name written by Carl Bernstein Bob Woodward.) Great reaction, ladies.
You apparently missed the fact that these reactors are to "everything is entertainment all the time". The sord "serious" is not in their vocabulary. And it's difficult to believe they aren't (still) high schoolers.
@CDavis-wo2hp Have you something to contribute other than personal attack? The flexibility in language is in part result of the fact that not all words are single-syllable. Can you DEFEND these silly teenage "reactors" who are actually old enough to realize that not everything is "entertainment"? And who cares what other films the actors were in -- isn't the actual substance of the film what allegedly matters?
Growing up in Northern Va. just outside of D.C., the Washington Post was the paper I read every day. As a high school sophomore and junior I don't remember Watergate being discussed among friends very much UNTIL 1974. Seems like that was the year that events and news reports really kicked into high gear. Congress held televised hearings investigating the scandal and Sam Ervin (R) NC was the chairman of the committee. He became a household name because of the exposure. Seems like everyone knew 'Senator Sam'. I distinctly remember the House Judiciary Committee chairman, Peter Rodino (D) NJ voting to advance articles of impeachment against Nixon with tears running down his cheeks. It was a very different era, that's for sure. Great reaction you two. BTW Nixon only resigned because he had no choice - he didn't have enough votes in the Senate to stay in office.
Well, he *could* have stayed. in office and been impeached. He chose to resign rather than be impeached. Then Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon and ruined justice and accountability forever. And so here we are today.
The Senate Hearings also led to the "memes" of the day with "What did the President know and when did he know it?". It was a difficult era with a lot of deep history.
If you’re asking what reporting is like now, I highly recommend Spotlight. It can be hard to watch given the subject matter, but it’s a love letter to investigative reporting. Makes a great double feature with this terrific film.
At the time the movie came out, the indentity of "Deep Throat" was a big political mystery. Bob Woodward and Ben Bradlee knew "Deep Throat's" identity, but had vowed not to reveal it. It wasn't until 2005 that it was revealed that W. Mark Felt was "Deep Throat" by Felt's attorney. Felt was suffering from dimentia at the time. Felt was deputy director at the FBI under J. Edgar Hoover. When Hoover died in 1972, Felt was passed over when Nixon selected Hoover's replacement. This is probably why Felt helped Woodward out. It also explains why Felt's information was so spot on.
Mark Felt was a coward and a traitor. He put an entire nation on jeopardy only because he didn`t get the job. Nixon didn`t need to spy the democrats, he won by a landslide the 1972 Presidential election.
You should also watch "The Candidate" (1972). Redford plays a candidate for US Senate in California. It's a good illustration of how men with noble intentions are manipulated and stripped of any conviction and straight talk by political consultants. Also the best film ever made about what goes on behind the scenes in a political campaign.
In the movie there is a 4-door 1972 Ford LTD which was close to my first car, a 2-door 1971 Ford LTD. My buddies used to say lines from that movie when they'd jump in that tank...
As someone who was in the business, this film for me is the most accurate depiction of a newsroom ( up until the past few years) I’ve ever seen. The stories aren’t usually this huge, but the mechanics of working the stories and the office culture are the same. The newspaper movie The Paper is a comedy but it gets high marks as well. I recognize all the characters in both films.
Yes, my dad was a city editor at a mid-size city paper in the 60 s to the 80 s, and this all brings back memories of when they were doing a big investigative story. The news room is also conveyed very accurately.
This movie makes me appreciate the intrepid reporting of old school investigative journalism prior to the age of the Internet. These reporters had to pound the pavements and rotary phones to work their sources and produce news stories that, in this instance, ultimately toppled a U.S. President who professed "I am not a crook", but yeah actually was a crook. Another great film is Spotlight from 2015 which documents the investigative journalists of the Boston Globe who broke the story of Catholic priests who sexually abused young boys in their parishes. Sadly, investigative journalists are becoming a dying breed, but there are still some that approach their work with serious dedication and ethics, and they perform an important public service. I was pleased to see the documentary 20 Days in Mariupol received a Bafta award for best documentary, and I hope it will win an Oscar this year. Continuing to shine a spotlight on Russia's war crimes in Ukraine is the best way to keep the public informed about the importance of defeating this Russian invasion of Ukraine.
It's such a pleasure watching people who have no reason to know about a key historic moment of the 20th century watch a dramatization of that moment and be so interested in it. It's a tribute to the quality of this movie.
@@surferdjnj The film is about Woodstein breaking the initial story, not about the entire Watergate scandal. Besides, the film came out in 1976, so the details shown on the teletype at the end would sitll be fresh in most people's minds, so there was no need for the film to cover that ground.
@@RichardDicksondlyrch68 Exactly. Everyone had just lived through it. The only part they hadn't seen play out in their living rooms was the WoodStein/Deep Throat story.
@@surferdjnjThe book and film are about how the Washington Post broke the story. It skips over some details of how the New York Times also published significant stories in the early part of the Watergate investigation, but by the time the story broke big (i.e. about when the movie ends with the teletype headlines), Woodward, Bernstein and the Washington Post were far from the only ones covering and writing important stories about the investigation, coverup, congressional hearings, Supreme Court decisions, etc. In other words, the story could no longer be told completely and convincingly from the perspective of Woodstein and the Post, so the movie fast forwards through how the rest of the Nixon story played out.
@@markhamstra1083 When watching the documentary "Third rate burglary" which details the whole event, you have the Watergate Tapes which proved that Nixon knew all about it and the coverup, and that came out in the hearings. I thought that would have been in the film as well, but I do see the way they went with Breaking News and how to report it well.
@@surferdjnj No, in 1961 O'Donnell became President Kennedy's special assistant and Appointments Secretary. He later advised the President during the lead up to the Bay of Pigs invasion and during the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis.[
Can't wait for this reaction! There's a UA-cam channel called "History Buffs" that scrutinizes movies for historical accuracy - there is a video covering Thirteen Days and gave it a very positive review. Some dramatization as with any movie, but very accurate.
@@surferdjnjKenny O’Donnell was real. The movie overplays his role in the Crisis. It’s a pretty good trick, use an obscure participant as the viewpoint for a well known event. Gives you a bit of flexibility that you don’t get if JFK or RFK are used.
Brad Pitt was also in A River Runs Through It, directed by Redford, and then there's Moneyball and Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, where he's very deliberately echoing Redford. They have one of those special bonds between Hollywood legends.
The film was directed by Alan J. Pakula. If you enjoyed this film you should check out the other two films in Pakula's trilogy of paranoia, "Klute", and "The Parallax View".
@@goodowner5000 yes I agree. Not quit up to the standard of the other 3, but Pelican Brief is none the less a good film, with a terrific cast, and wonderful score by James Horner.
So glad finally someone reacted to this movie! A very underrated classic from the 70s. I honestly believe that had Rocky or Taxi Driver not come out in the same year as this film did, then this film would’ve easily won best picture. An amazing historical film about one of the most historical events in American history. Hopefully this reaction will get more people interested in reacting to it.
Another great film around that time by the same director Alan J Pakula is “The Parallax View” starring Warren Beatty. A more modern film by Pakula is “Presumed Innocent” starring Harrison Ford. Other notable films: Sophie’s Choice, The Pelican Brief, Klute, The Devil’s Own.
Yes, Pakula was a great director with a unique style. I hold “The Parallax View” to be his definitive film. It is flawed yet perfect. The use of liminal spaces in the film makes it both jarring and dark (Gordon Willis and Pakula had a great working relationship). Cheers 🍺
When they built the exact duplicate of the newsroom at the studio they found the dozens of fluorescent light fixtures made noise - so all of the individual light transformers were taken out and moved to the stage next door, connected by cables.
This is one of my favorite movies . Thank you so much for Popcorn In Bed for your reactions and comments so much! I enjoyed watching this even more with you two and your input . You were piecing this together really good and the comparison to the way Zodiac was with the reporters angle was a great reference . Thank you two again I really did enjoy this a lot .
More Robert Redford recommendations: Three Days of the Condor (Espionage thriller) The Electric Horseman (Modern cowboy drama-romance) Brubaker (Prison drama) I'm glad that you've been working your way through Redford's movies. He's arguably my all-time favorite actor, and he's had a great career over around 60 years.
@@jakehawke8196 Ohhh yeah The Natural. Keep forgetting that one. Maybe this one just because of the Oscars and historical tie-in. He's definitely like Leo DiCaprio in that it would be super hard to choose just one.
The book is excellent. Wrote a paper on it in college. This film has a young F. Muray Abraham as one of the cops who arrest the burglars. Still acting today.
My junior year English teach showed up Forrest Gump in class and then he gave us a list of events/historical things that occurred in it and we had to pick one and write a research paper on it and I chose to do mine on watergate!
Ben Bradlee: "Ken, I don't want to print that you were in Sally's apartment. I just want to know what you said, in Sally's apartment" Great way to threaten someone without threatening them!
Great reaction as always ladies,and if my memory serves me 1972 Justin Trudeau’s father Pierre was prime minister of Canada. I’m old, I know these things ❤❤❤❤
A lot of effort went into recreating the Post newsroom exactly as it looked in that period. Having been in newspapers for over 30 years, what’s shown is how the business worked and how you had to dig for stories. Ben Bradlee was a fascinating character, a witty urbane man and a tough editor who could make a sailor blush with his language when angry. Foreign correspondent, close friend to JFK, an insider’s insider. You should watch The Post, about the Pentagon Papers case a couple of years before Watergate, which made The Washington Post a player in national news. Tom Hanks plays Bradlee.
Besides Redford, Hoffman, and Stephen Collins (7th HEAVEN), some of the other actors you might have recognized are Jack Warden (editor Harry Rosenfeld in this, was juror 7 in 12 ANGRY MEN), Martin Balsam (managing editor Howard Simmons in this, was also in 12 ANGRY MEN as the jury foreman, and the Pi in PSYCHO), Jason Robards (Ben Bradlee in this, the patriarch in PARENTHOOD), Hal Halbrook (“Deepthroat”, was in THE FIRM), and Ned Beatty (Otis in SUPERMAN).
Jason Robards also played "Cheyenne" in Once Upon a Time in the West, very very good character in one of the best westerns ever made. Also worth mentioning, Jack Warden was in my fav comedy Used Cars where he played two brothers.
Jason Robards was one of those actors who was always ~present~ in the background of my childhood... in so many things (like Gene Hackman), but I personally remember him most fondly in "Max Dugan Returns", because I loved that movie as a kid.
There have been 6 presidents named James (including Jimmy Carter) and one named Zachary Taylor, but no James Taylor. James Taylor is a musician who was popular around that time.
I think James Taylor was married to or living with Carly Simon??? She would have been a popular singer in the 1970s as well. "You're so vain" came out in Nov 1972
James Taylor's album called 'Mudslide Slim' was one of my favourite albums at the time, especially the song 'You've got a friend'. Some songs never seem to age.
@@francescathomas3502 James Taylor was married to Carly Simon from 1972 until 1983. They are rock royalty. Carly is now 80 years-old and Taylor is 76 years-old.
My favorite movie!!!! I was a journalism major in college, and my professor/advisor was this amazing old man who had been working in the newspaper business since he was 14. We watched this movie in class and instantly became my favorite movie. I’m so excited to watch this reaction!!!
I remember watching this film for the first time. The simplistic way of filmmaking, no fancy stuff, yet I was completely captivated and was on the edge of my seat.
The beauty of the film is The Story, not by fancy fluff to make it sparkly and such. It deals with hard facts, and Life as it pretty was, back in early 1970's. That is the main point of it. Telling how it went down, and that works so much better than so many films of today.
It's not just journalists. The American population overall, is less adult, less mature, less educated. Basically children, who need safe spaces and feel-good pandering.
I like reporter movies, and this is one of the best. Some more recent ones that you may consider watching: "State of Play", "Spotlight", "Nightcrawler" or "The Post". Also Robert Redford and the bookkeeper lady were together in "Brubaker" a few years later.
Okay, I'm thrilled to see you reacting to "All The President's Men!" I've read the book, by Woodward and Bermstein, and have watched this amazing movie many times. It's in my top 5 of all-time favorite movies, for two reasons, one, it is a superbly done Journalism Thriller, and two, it speaks to how important the free press is in maintaining a democracy. There are never enough of these kind of movies...the kind that teach you something and do a great job of entertaining you at the same time! By the way, I thought you both did a first-rate job of following the complex plot of this story...especially considering that this was your first time watching it. You have a WONDERFUL channel, thank you for your outstaning work putting this great content together for us!
My entire family watched the Watergate hearings. Everybody did. "Deep Throat" was revealed a few years ago. Actually lived down the road from me in Santa Rosa. No one had any idea.
Fun fact: for the newsroom, the filmmakers actually went to the real Washington post newsroom and recreated every single detail on a set in Burbank studios. And Ben Bradlee who was the executive editor of the newspaper went to see the set and was impressed that they got exactly right and even his daughter who usually comes to hang around was astonished by it and even put her coat in the same chair in her dad’s office. Plus Jason Robards who played Ben Bradlee was so good that he not only won an oscar for it but also Ben Bradlee started to act like Robards’s version of himself the movie only cover the first half of the book
The movie covers almost two-thirds of the book. The last scene of the movie with Woodward and Bernstein occurs on January 20, 1973 with Nixon on tv taking the oath of office in the background. Nixon’s second inaugural goes unmentioned in the book, which is instead focused on the trial of the burglars, Hunt and Liddy, which ended on January 30 with all seven men either pleading guilty or being found guilty. That’s the end of Chapter 11, so the movie covers ten days short of eleven chapters while omitting the last six, but the teletype headlines at the end of the movie cover most of the important events that occur in the last six chapters of the book, and then go further to cover the remainder of Nixon’s presidency. The last chapter of the book ends with Nixon’s State of the Union address in 1974, so a little more than a year after the end of Chapter 11.
I've literally done searches for All the President's Men reactions on a regular basis for a couple of years now. Stumbling on this made for a great breakfast-time watch! Thanks ladies. Hope others follow suit. One of the greatest core casts ever assembled; perfectly-paced storytelling, brilliant writing. And, though I never thought about it until watching this reaction, a wonderful technology (or lack thereof) time capsule for younger people to observe - - how things were done with just a couple of tools; no internet, no cell phones, no word processors. Just a lot of paper, ink and brains.
18:17 I love this whole scene with Woodward on the phone with Dalhberg, the slow zoom in during the whole conversation just builds the tension perfectly.
This was such a huge story back when I was in Junior High. The Congressional hearings were broadcast on every network all day. When John Dean told them about the recording system in the Oval Office, it was a massive story. Nice to see you guys watching this one, even though it was a couple months ago :)
This is the first reaction to this movie on youtube as far as i know. I've been waiting for this. I used to watch "All the president's men", along with the lotr/hobbit movies, over and over again before falling asleep. As i already knew the stories, there were no cliffhangers, and i could shut it off whenever i got sleepy, or fall asleep listening to it without worrying about losing my place. Later, i used an audio book of "the hound of the baskervilles" for the same purpose. Other movies in this jounalism genre include "spotlight" and "the post", but neither are as good as this one. That machine at the end was a teletype machine, i think. The speed was too regular to have been a human typing.
For a great thriller starring Robert Redford, I suggest Three Days of the Condor. Alan J Pakula, who directed All thevPresident's Men, made a great political thriller starring Warren Beatty called The Parallax View.
Barry Goldwater who was a staunch republican senator from Arizona, went to see President Nixon, telling him that the next day the senate would vote to impeach him, he then said "Mr President you do not have my vote". Nixon then realized he would be impeached and decided to resign rather than being impeached.
Always wondered what that had to do with Dahlberg. If HIS wife was kidnapped, I get it. I don't even know my neighbor's name (new guy), so if his wife was kidnapped, I wouldn't treat it as a personal crisis.
This is such a classic story based on actual events. All these years later it's still captivating to watch. At one point you mentionned loving "reporting" movies, let me suggest "The Paper" from 1994. It has a stellar cast Michael Keaton, Marisa Tomei, Randy Quaid, Robert Duvall, Glenn Close and so much more.
Another president centered movie to watch is _In The Line of Fire_ starring Clint Eastwood. He plays a secret service agent who blames himself for Kennedy's assassination in Dallas. Now another assassin (played by John Malkovich) is planning to kill the current president, and it's up to Eastwood's character to try and stop him.
And in another such film starring and directed by Clint, _Absolute power,_ a burglar sees the President murder his mistress and... well, just watch the movie!! Also, 1805movie, thanks for using italics for the title of a movie. You and I, I fear, are a dying breed, those who know that this is the correct thing to do.
Loved this! Lived through Watergate in my college years. It was incredibly fascinating and absorbing. It’s a long story, but a great story. I love the clothes and haircuts in this film. Definitely a 70’s time capsule. Ps also love that Volvo they drove around in! And (sorry Cassie) as an American, I correctly guessed that the PM of Canada in 1972 was Pierre Trudeau.
Great reaction as always. Three points: 1. This move chronicles a shining moment in journalism, as well as the beginning of its downfall. After Watergate and this film, generations of journalism students wanted desperately to be the next Woodward and Bernstein and take down someone in power, objectivity be damned. 2. The Internet has given us much to appreciate, not the least of which is a chance to get to know you two wonderful ladies, but it also put the final nail in the coffin of responsible journalism. We're awash in a glut of non-sourced clickbait that has become indistinguishable from actual reporting. 3. In the 2016 election one presidential candidate's office was bugged by the opposing party, and the story barely merited a ripple in the media. That's how much our society has changed.
This movie is based on the book of the same name. Bob Woodward also wrote a book about the source he met in the garage and about the man who's testimony cracked the white house taping issue. He's an incredible writer, highly recommend all 3 books (All the President's Men, The Secret Man, and The Last President's Man respectively)
The fact that he was the number 2 guy at the FBI came out after the events of the movie, yes. It almost sounded like you were saying this, the movie, came out decades after the events IRL. ;)
It's not presidential (senatorial, in actuality) but a great historically accurate politics/news/reporting story in movie form is _Good Night and Good Luck_ starting Ed Strathairn as Edward R. Murrow (he does a great job) with George Clooney (who also directed) and Robert Downey Jr. About the fall of Senator McCarthy in the 1950s.
In regard to who was the Canadian Prime Minister in 1972, an easy guess is Pierre Trudeau. Just because he had such a long tenure and any association I have places him into mainly the 1970s.
Your surprise about people being able to find your address and phone number in a phone book. You realize a lot more than that is available online in current times. FYI: "Heartburn," made in 1986, is about Bernstein's marriage. Stars Meryl Streep and Jack Nicholson. You may also want to watch Robert Redford in "The Candidate."
ah yes the good old days when the white pages were available at every public phone booth. the white pages your name address and phone number and nothing else was available to everyone everywhere and no one said boo.
I also found that so adorable when surprised about the Phone Book directory. In some countries you also had "Yellow Pages" only for companies. It is a very good film to show what life was like, especially in journalism, back in the day, when internet wasn't around and you couldn't google everything.
That always amazes me too. In the old days, the only thing the whole public had access to was an address and phone number. Nowadays, we just give it all away, in exchange for "free" internet and apps.
@@jillk368That is the way one grew up in the old days... also phones were plugged into a wall, or the ground as in something called a Payphone, or Phonebooth. It does also make one rethink "The Terminator"... Wouldn't the T-800 have had access to the addresses of the future via the Internet as in today? 🙂
My favorite journalism movie is Absence of Malice, a 1981 film starring Paul Newman and Sally Field with a stellar performance by Wilford Brimley. I always look forward to your reactions. Thanks.
One investigative journalism movie I used to like was an old french movie called Etat de Siege, 1973. There was also an interesting american movie from the 40's called Meet John Doe, but it was more a simple critique about the press.
@@ct6852No, although it was written by an actual former journalist. It's brilliant- one of Newman's finest performances and a great supporting performance by Wilford Brimley.
LOVE THIS MOVIE. I'd also suggested it as a watch for them elsewhere. It's what I call a 'juicy" movie like ATPM, Zodiac, Silkwood, and Three Days of the Condor. The kind of movie you just sit down and get involved in, and are guaranteed to enjoy.
If you want an interesting follow-up film related to Nixon, check out Frost/Nixon (2008) starring Frank Langella as Nixon, Michael Sheen as David Frost
All the sounds of the 70's are amazing, phones ringing, phones being cradled, the typewriters, the sound of the the TV and radios, stand out in this film.
The constant shots of TVs playing in the background in the newsroom now feel like a subtle bit of foreshadowing of how the news would soon become entertainment and good hard journalism like Woodstein did here would become a thing of the past.
This is the 3rd in,director Alan Pakula's Paranoia Trilogy. First was Klute (with Jane Fonda in an,Oscar-winning performance - maybe the Best Performance by an actress,in,an,American,film since 1960 to 2001 when Naomi Watts was in Mulholland Dr) second was The Parallax View with Warren Beatty and 3rd was this film which rewrote the book on,how you build,suspense. Thanks again for being the best!
Mark Felt was the name of deepthroat. He was deputy director of the FBI during this time. Died in 2008 or 2009, believe Woodward kept that a secret until after he passed.
The book is a very good read, too.
Thank you for the reaction, love the next two you have lined up this week.
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Woodward vowed to keep the secret until after Deep Throat died, but "In 2005, at age 91, Felt revealed to Vanity Fair magazine that during his tenure as Deputy Director of the FBI he had been the notorious anonymous source known as "Deep Throat",[1][2] who provided The Washington Post reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein with critical information about the Watergate scandal, which ultimately led to the resignation of President Richard Nixon in 1974. Woodward, who had long vowed not to reveal Deep Throat's identity while the source was still alive, quickly confirmed Felt's claim. Though Felt's identity as Deep Throat was suspected, including by Nixon himself,[3] it had generally remained a secret for 30 years. Felt finally acknowledged that he was Deep Throat after being persuaded by his daughter to reveal his identity before his death."
Actually, Felt came out and admitted it in 2005 and Woodward confirmed it. At the time, Felt was dealing with Alzheimers. His name had been mentioned during the scandal, but he denied it at the time. The supposed reason for his telling Woodward all of the secrets was because he was upset that he was passed over when they were searching for a new FBI director in 1972 after the death of J. Edgar Hoover.
As an official "old"... it was amazing to see this movie and the Watergate movies (another great one is: Frost/Nixon 2008) and then finding out who Deep Throat was. I wish Journalism (capital "J" intented) was still a thing.
@@bradsullivan2495 Woodward surmised that that was his motive. He didn't say that it was. He couldn't remember anything about Watergate by that time. He did tell Woodward he had always thought well of him.
Back in the good ole days, when a news editor demanded multiple sources and people on the record before publishing. Sigh, I miss those days. You guys might like 3 Days of the Condor, a Redford movie where he plays a guy caught up in political intrigue. He does those "conspiracy" roles well. Very believable and credible actor.
Its still the same for legacy pubs like NY Times, Washington Post, but not for TV or for minor media outlets.
Minor media outlets barely have the manpower to get a newspaper out or fill a half hour of air-time nowadays, so they don't spend time on hard-hitting reports anymore. They might cover a local government meeting once in a while, but otherwise they just cover local community events and fill the rest of their paper or broadcast with either press releases or canned content from the likes of AP.
Just recommended that film and The Parallax View.
Reputable papers still require all that stuff. Many stories run with sources that are on the record but anonymous; that’s nothing new and ultimately necessary for journalism.
One of his best!!
The key character in Bob Woodward's part of the investigation, Deep Throat, was a gentleman named Mark Felt. He happened to be the Deputy Director of the FBI. Woodward and Mr. Felt held onto this fact until well after the year 2000, when Mr. Felt was quite old. He finally faced the press and admitted his role in the Watergate investigation, and everyone finally knew who Deep Throat really was. Mr. Felt passed about a year after this revelation. Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein are still active reporters and writers to this day.
This is one of the best movies of the 1970s and arguably the best film ever made about journalism. It won 4 Academy Awards including Best Screenplay and Best Supporting Actor for Jason Robards as Ben Bradlee. Countless people have said they wanted to be reporters after this movie came out.
Shock and Awe is actually better
This was a very convincing movie for young people considering going into journalism at the time. Too bad the movie is complete fiction -- just as what WaPo published in real life. IMHO it is beyond fiction and a deliberate lie.
20:46. "That's quite the boys' club!" Two of the actors around that table were also around the table in "12 Angry Men" almost 20 years earlier. In fact, Martin Balsam is sitting at the head of the table, just like he did as the foreman of the jury. And the red-haired editor is Jack Warden, who played the juror with the baseball tickets burning a hole in his pocket.
I simply CANNNOT BELLIEVE how UNINFORMED and flat out DUMB tjpse two are!!!! It was a "boys club" back then--because hiring policies were different then. They watched the ENTIRE FILM and at the END of it, don't even know that it is about REELECTING Richard M. Nixon as President! When THROUGHOUT THE FILM it says at LEAST a HALF DOZEN TIMES if not MORE--that the "funds"/bribes were part of the "RE-ELECT the PRESIDENT! So of COURSE it was for a 2ND TERM! And NOT about how "cute" Dustin Hoffman IS/WAS or "sexy"" Robert Redford is/was!! And we wonder WHY so many sheltered Millennials are going to single handedly DESTROY the country because you Don't Know ANYTHING about Government?!? “We're under a lot of pressure, you know, and you put us there,” Robards' says. “Nothing's riding on this except the, uh, First Amendment to the Constitution, freedom of the press and maybe the future of the country. Not that any of that matters, but if you guys f- up again, I'm going to get mad. Good night.” Dangerous Morons!!
12 Angry Men is an awesome movie! My two kids, 23 and 25, both say that is their absolute favourite movie!
Jack Warden was a great actor .
Martin Balsam played a detective in "Psycho". Jack Warden was great in "Used Cars".
One thing is still true " Follow the Money"!!
monte - Truer words have never been spoken. "Money doesn't talk, it screams." Bob Dylan
1000%
Now the worst "reporters" are paid millions of dollars and a lifestyle they know they can never afford to continue with their limited skill set, so they never risk digging deep to report the truth.
True, but overstated. Watergate was not motivated by money, it was only enabled by unaccountable campaign donations. Neither was the money pivotal to the investigation. There was a time when the money trail was all that the Post and the Times had, but that trail pretty much ran dry, and it took much more information from Deep Throat to keep the investigation alive. Watergate and Washington D.C. investigations since then are not just about following the money, so that aphorism is more like 50% true and useful than 1000%.
It applies to everything in history ... every unsolved question regarding any event. Truly the root of all evil.
Fun fact: the security guard you see in the film finding the tape over the lock is the actual security guard from the Watergate Hotel who made the call that got all of this started!
Oh, and Pierre Trudeau was PM here, and I started off on a manual typewriter (my mom's)...and it was fun!
I was going to comment about the security guard being the actual security guard from the watergate hotel too. I hope Cassie sees your comment.
Fun fact2... In World War 2 Miami DA Dardis helped save a downed pilot from being captured. That pilot was Kenneth Dahlberg, but Dardis never knew his name, so he didn't recognize it when he saw the Dahlberg check.
Fun fact 3...Nixon absolutely despised Pierre Trudeau. 😎😃
I thought Forest Gump reported it.
Wow, I never knew this. Thanks for mentioning it!
Cassie, pleeeeease watch Three Days of The Condor (1975) Robert Redford as a CIA agent.
Dude yes!!! It's so good!!!
I think it's one of the few movies that did the book justice. It's one of those flicks where you think, "Okay, okay..." and then "What in the actual hell?" Great recommendation!
Yes! Add to that The Parallax View (same Director as All the President's Men).
Yes, it is great!
Or the Falcon and the Snowman another true story too!
I am German and 62 years old. There was a time in the 70s when really brilliant films were being made in the USA. Luckily they were translated/dubbed into German and sent to us. For someone who is very interested in history and politics like me, these films were/are a revelation.
I count them among the milestones in film history.
Thank you for reviewing this film. If you don't know your history (yours and ours), you don't understand the present.
@CDavis-wo2hp I didn't say that there aren't any good films coming out of the USA anymore. But I was born in 1962, which means that films like the one discussed were important for my development as a politically minded person. When the subject matter of a film touches a person directly, something is triggered. This goes far beyond the film.
This time was extremely important and laid the foundation, whether positive or negative, for many events that still have an impact today.
And yes, the volume of shit productions has increased dramatically. When I see the social developments, it's no wonder.
This film and "Spotlight" (2015) do an outstanding job of showing the nitty-gritty involved with investigative reporting.
Each film features a person called Ben Bradlee - The one in Spotlight is Ben Bradlee Jr, the son of the person in All The Presidents Men! I love that weird link between the two stories of journalism
Great suggestion! I was actually reminded of "Spotlight" while watching this reaction.
"Spotlight" was a great film. What they uncovered was beyond horrible.
Spotlight is the best journalism movie.
YES!! Definitely hoping "Spotlight" is a film they react to, as that and "All the President's Men" are great "newspaper" movies, so to speak lol. Really getting into the process of investigative journalism and reporting.
Still one of the greatest scripts ever written. Credit goes to Redford who really was the driving force to getting this made. One of the best films of the 70’s in a decade filled with great films…❤❤
I think the 70’s was the greatest decade in film history. The 80’s was one of the worst.
@@razmo21 the last decade giving the 80s a run for its money….if I see another comic book trailer my head will explode…
Script was written by William Goldman who also wrote Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid and The Princess Bride among others.
very poor storytelling, poorly constructed, poorly executed divulging of details and series of happenings
Pakula doesn't know how to tell a story in the slightest (like I doubt he could even do a good job relaying a simple 3 minute thing that happened), and trying to tell a complex story with details and varying motivations seriously feels like a 10 year old trying to take on a major carpentry project seriously - just NO. and with that, this feels like middle-school boys playing at make-believe investigators and it plays like a big joke rather than heavy political 'it really happened' profound awe like it should and tries to pretend it does
failed scene after failed scene after failed scene, and if you don't know anything about the subject matter or details going into it you will not come away from this knowing what the fuck any of it had to do with anything, why it mattered, what place it played in history, or anything at all (even how it affected the reporters lives, what they went through - nothing is depicted in this movie), and I'd be surprised if anyone who didn't know anything could even make it through this without complete and utter frustration (assuming they have a working brain, which is only maybe 10% of audiences these days)
3.9/10
Alan J. Pakula was the director of this minor masterpiece. Sadly forgotten today. He had a very distinct visual style, perfectly suited for these kinds of movies. His masterpiece (albeit flawed) is the 1974 film “The Parallax View”. Truly original director that died under strange circumstances in 1998. Check out his Wikipedia page for more information about him.
Cheers 🍺
Yes it's all true! For context you should also watch 'The Post', with Tom Hanks as Ben Bradlee. It plays right into the opening scenes of this film.
Hoffman's career was on fire during this period. He played everything from a depressed college grad to a street hustler to Carl Bernstein and got 4 Oscar nominations in 12 years, though he wasn't nominated for this movie. His first win was three years after this in Kramer vs. Kramer.
kramer vs kramer is an outstanding classic. I really hope the popcorn girls watch that.
@@spextrekid9410 because of that movie I've never liked Meryl Streep 😃 ... i was like 10 years old when watched it
K v K also starred Meryl Streep as the wife. That was a brilliant movie. The kid was such a cutie and totally adorable!!!
Kramer vs. Kramer is a must watch for the channel.
Don't forget a badass math professor. "Straw Dogs" doesn't get enough love.
I cannot believe I just saw a reaction to "All The President's Men". That was beyond fantastic! And the edit was incredible! I can't imagine that is an easy movie to cut down. Whomever edited this reaction video is a master! The clarity of the story could not be better. And this is a movie that NOBODY follows every strand of the scandal strictly by watching this movie (that's a task much better suited for books!). And so happy you got to see more Dustin Hoffman! He's right next to Nicholson and De Niro and Pacino and Hackman, as far as incredible performances in top shelf classics. Can't wait for you to see "Tootsie", and "The Graduate" and "Midnight Cowboy" and "Little Big Man" and "Death Of A Salesman" and......🤣 You've now seen my favorite Robert Redford movies: All The President's Men and Butch Cassidy. Redford had a big hand in getting this movie made. You can see a great clip of him with the real Woodward and Bernstein, an hour long interview with an audience, really great.
I totally agree with you. When I saw the thumbnail and the title, my eyes got tear-eyed from joy and happiness. The editing of the reaction is top notch!
I agree! So many times the editing for reactions looks like it was done with a lawnmower. I don't know where you found the editor but good job.
Yeah, this was a great cut. I was surprised how well it actually worked..
I asked them years ago to do it
I remember thinking that this film would not be good for neophytes to watch, because it was aimed at an audience who knew the Watergate scandal to the smallest detail, thanks to a solid YEAR of constant televised coverage at the time. But watching this edit, I realize now how good the film was at distilling a very complex investigation into something that anyone could follow and at least get a general understanding of the scandal.
Jason Robards is ABSOLUTE CLASS in this film. I 4ckin LOVED that guy.
Great underrated character actor. A Thousand Clowns, Melvin and Howard, Max Dugan Returns etc.
So true, one of my favourite actors. He played the patriarch in a 1987-88 tv version of the "Long Hot Summer" along Don Johnson, and he was freaking excellent in that.
Jason Robards is always absolute class.
Uncharacteristically for a film, all of the phone conversations had the actors actually speaking to each other in real time.
Its so interesting seeing these large offices and not a computer or printer in sight ... back when everything was done by leg work and personal communication
And writing efforts
Yea, but there sure as heck were shredders in the offices. 🙂Still can't believe, Nixon didn't destroy all the tapes.
@@Nomad-vv1gk he legally couldn't because they were protected official documents and recordings so all they could do was say they accidentally erased a portion of the tapes and blame it on a secretary.. My how times have changed.. Just ask Hillary about her emails and breaking all those devices
Don't Woodstein have the list of CRP employees copied?
Woodward and Bernstien's reporting brought down the President of the United States. This was an important historical event in the US.
How many Jews were involved in this lawfare? Nixon resigns for some campaign dirty tricks while Bill Clinton gets a blowjob in the office from an employee and our first Muslim president makes an unconstitutional health care mandate.
to be fair they didn't make any of the legal process happen, they just reported it.
Just too bad that spying on your political opponents is now a common thing every 2-4 years by both major parties.
Nixon brought himself down. All W&B did was good investigative reporting about it.
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That is alot and awesome.
Tom Hanks plays Ben Bradlee alongside Meryl Streep playing Mrs Graham (Owner of the paper) in another watergate-themed film: The Post.
Yes, really important to show Mrs. Graham's part in it all. Very good film.
"might be based on a true story" - 🤣 Probably the two most famous journalists of the 20th century.
Oh to be so young!
Or ignorant
@@chalkandcheese1868 No, not at all. These events occurred nearly half a century ago; I would not expect generations Y or Z to know about them.
@@OneAndOnlyMe I'm sorry what? World War II was before my time and I know about it. I'm not even American and I've heard of Watergate, it's called reading and paying attention in class. If you're an American and you've never heard of Watergate, you're an idiot.
Remember they are Canadian and this was 50+ years ago @@chalkandcheese1868
@@OneAndOnlyMe To add to that, this is American history and these ladies are Canadian. They wouldn't have much reason to know the details of the Watergate incident even if they were older.
I've worked in journalism for 20 years. At the highest levels of print journalism, it still essentially works as it does in this movie. Unfortunately, fewer and fewer people read those publications. (With the exception of the New York Times, which has never had more readers.) They watch TV or read stuff online or on social media. People consume more commentary today than actual reporting. It's like eating dessert instead of dinner. Eventually, you become ill.
Part of the problem with misinformation is that many, perhaps most media outlets don't report the news accordingly, they in fact give commentary/opinion reporting. Also, they just make things up, take statements out of context, and convey their own agenda's, then call themselves journalists.
Great post!
Matt Taibbi and Michael Shellenberger are the closest we have today.
Perfectly stated. I, for one, still support print journalism that is posted online as well.
The MSM has become the enemy of the people in the US. I hope you aren't part of the problem
This is one of my favorite movies. The tension increases in this movie without any "Hollywood" gimics. Just great screenplay and acting
And great direction by Alan J Pakula. For example, the opening extreme close-up of typewriter keys hitting paper with incredibly loud bangs lets you know that you are about to watch a story about the power and impact of written words, while also making you sit up straight in your seat. It's absolutely brilliant, and even more effective when you see the film in a theatre.
The guy (Deep Throat)who kept meeting Bob in the garage wasn't corrupt. He was actually 2nd in charge of the FBI.
He knew the whole story because the FBI had investigated it all, and thus found out what the story was.
But the head of the FBI was very loyal to Nixon and thus ordered it all covered up. Which greatly angered
"Deep throat ("Garage guy), and offended his sense of morality. Which is why he was willing to help
(in his own way) Bob with the story.
Bob and "Deep Throat" had known each other for a while before all this happened
With the current corruption in the FBI and it clearly going back to JFK's assassination (if not earlier), I wouldn't say ANYONE isn't corrupt. When you get down to it, Nixon never admitted to anything - he resigned for the good of the country. I saw an interesting story that the whole thing was a set by the FBI because they wanted to get rid of Nixon. At this point, I'm inclined to believe it over such a ridiculously sensational story like this.
In fact Woodward was trying so hard to get his glory days back, chasing down any camera that would follow him during Trump's years that I wouldn't be surprised if he helped manufacture Watergate.
Saying Felt was not corrupt is a bit too simple. He definitely was strongly motivated by his own sense of right and wrong, and he thought of himself as virtuous, not corrupt, but he was also directly involved in black bag operations against U.S. citizens. Those operations were found to be illegal, and Felt was convicted for violating the civil rights of those Americans. He was later pardoned by Reagan.
It may have offended his sense of morality, but the major reason Felt was leaking information was that he was angry at Nixon and Haldeman for passing him up to be head of the Bureau when J. Edgar Hoover died. He thought he'd earned it; Nixon and his team had no intention of appointing a career FBI man to the post and went with a political appointment in L. Patrick Gray.
@@chrishornbostel9831 And when did he tell you that?
@@chrishornbostel9831 He was mad about being passed up but that was not the main reason he was doing it. He had a very strong sense of right and wrong. Some thought he was almost too rigid in that way.
That was one of the reasons the Nixon administration didn't make him head of the FBI. They thought he was too
rigid in his morality to be "trustworthy."
His anger at being passed up might have played a part in having him feel no urge to be "loyal" and towing the line despite his sense of right and wrong being violated, but his sense of right and wrong being violated was his primary motive.
"Follow the money" was not a common phrase at all until this film.
Like "You can't handle the truth!' came from A Few Good Men.
Excellent reaction!!!
I got so stoked when I got the notification that y'all had uploaded this reaction.
This movie was required viewing in high school .
I've lost count of how many times I've watched this and it never gets old.
Woodward's source, Deep Throat's real name was Mark Felt, he was the #2 guy in charge of the FBI at the time. Woodward confirmed that Felt was Deep Throat after he passed away but it was long suspected by many for years.
This movie has so many great actors and actresses and I highly recommend reading the book, it'll fill in a lot of gaps.
Again, great reaction!
Many blessings to you and yours.
Thank you so much for the kind words and the super chat!! That is so nice of you! This one was great!
Apart from the suspense and journalism insights, this movie does such a good job showing just how different Woodward & Bernstein were. One left, the other right. One pushy, the other reserved. One street, the other cerebral. Etc etc. One of my favorite moments is when Sloan says he’s a Republican and Woodward admits “So am I” - and Bernstein shoots him that look like “What?!” 🤨😂
47:19 One reason Ben Bradlee was the best editor at the Washington Post.
Jason Robards won the 1976 academy award for best supporting actor for his role as Ben Bradlee in this movie
That sloooooowww push in on Redford as he's talking to Dahlberg is one of my favorite scenes in any movie.
Soooooo! Good! No music! Just acting and directing!
The decade of the 70's has very good films in almost all genres. Very good reaction, girls.
I'm always somewhat surprised how You Tube reactors have left a powerful movie like this to gather dust while doing reactions to Batman. Total respect to you both for putting this excellent film on your channel. Redford and Hoffman, both A-List actors of their era, gave excellent performances here. One of the editors you may have noticed was the sports fanatic in "12 Angry Men" and another was the detective in "Psycho." At the time of the scandal, what had happened seemed confusing and watching this movie condensed and clarified events (along with the book of the same name written by Carl Bernstein Bob Woodward.) Great reaction, ladies.
I’m 69 and remember all this about Watergate happening. I actually cried at the end of your reaction, always fight for the truth, even today.
You apparently missed the fact that these reactors are to "everything is entertainment all the time". The sord "serious" is not in their vocabulary.
And it's difficult to believe they aren't (still) high schoolers.
@CDavis-wo2hp Have you something to contribute other than personal attack?
The flexibility in language is in part result of the fact that not all words are single-syllable.
Can you DEFEND these silly teenage "reactors" who are actually old enough to realize that not everything is "entertainment"? And who cares what other films the actors were in -- isn't the actual substance of the film what allegedly matters?
You know a film is iconic, when it's smoking informant becomes a meme (eg Trading Places and The X-Files).
Growing up in Northern Va. just outside of D.C., the Washington Post was the paper I read every day. As a high school sophomore and junior I don't remember Watergate being discussed among friends very much UNTIL 1974. Seems like that was the year that events and news reports really kicked into high gear. Congress held televised hearings investigating the scandal and Sam Ervin (R) NC was the chairman of the committee. He became a household name because of the exposure. Seems like everyone knew 'Senator Sam'. I distinctly remember the House Judiciary Committee chairman, Peter Rodino (D) NJ voting to advance articles of impeachment against Nixon with tears running down his cheeks. It was a very different era, that's for sure. Great reaction you two.
BTW Nixon only resigned because he had no choice - he didn't have enough votes in the Senate to stay in office.
Well, he *could* have stayed. in office and been impeached. He chose to resign rather than be impeached. Then Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon and ruined justice and accountability forever. And so here we are today.
The Senate Hearings also led to the "memes" of the day with "What did the President know and when did he know it?". It was a difficult era with a lot of deep history.
Sam Ervin was a (D) not and (R). The Minority Co-Chair was Howard Baker (R) From Tennessee.
@@steveperkins8748 Yep, you are correct. My bad. Thanks.
The Watergate Hearings started in 1973.
"James Taylor? Is that a president?"
I love this channel.
He was the President who recorded "Fire and Rain".
I thought it was president Jackson Browne.
If you’re asking what reporting is like now, I highly recommend Spotlight. It can be hard to watch given the subject matter, but it’s a love letter to investigative reporting. Makes a great double feature with this terrific film.
Spotlight is an awesome film but VERY hard to watch.
At the time the movie came out, the indentity of "Deep Throat" was a big political mystery. Bob Woodward and Ben Bradlee knew "Deep Throat's" identity, but had vowed not to reveal it. It wasn't until 2005 that it was revealed that W. Mark Felt was "Deep Throat" by Felt's attorney. Felt was suffering from dimentia at the time. Felt was deputy director at the FBI under J. Edgar Hoover. When Hoover died in 1972, Felt was passed over when Nixon selected Hoover's replacement. This is probably why Felt helped Woodward out. It also explains why Felt's information was so spot on.
Mark Felt was a coward and a traitor. He put an entire nation on jeopardy only because he didn`t get the job. Nixon didn`t need to spy the democrats, he won by a landslide the 1972 Presidential election.
You should also watch "The Candidate" (1972). Redford plays a candidate for US Senate in California. It's a good illustration of how men with noble intentions are manipulated and stripped of any conviction and straight talk by political consultants. Also the best film ever made about what goes on behind the scenes in a political campaign.
In the movie there is a 4-door 1972 Ford LTD which was close to my first car, a 2-door 1971 Ford LTD. My buddies used to say lines from that movie when they'd jump in that tank...
Also "Game Change" (2012) for a more modern take on what goes on behind the scenes in a political campaign.
As someone who was in the business, this film for me is the most accurate depiction of a newsroom ( up until the past few years) I’ve ever seen. The stories aren’t usually this huge, but the mechanics of working the stories and the office culture are the same. The newspaper movie The Paper is a comedy but it gets high marks as well. I recognize all the characters in both films.
Deep throat’s identity was only released after he died a few years ago.
Yes, my dad was a city editor at a mid-size city paper in the 60 s to the 80 s, and this all brings back memories of when they were doing a big investigative story. The news room is also conveyed very accurately.
This movie makes me appreciate the intrepid reporting of old school investigative journalism prior to the age of the Internet. These reporters had to pound the pavements and rotary phones to work their sources and produce news stories that, in this instance, ultimately toppled a U.S. President who professed "I am not a crook", but yeah actually was a crook. Another great film is Spotlight from 2015 which documents the investigative journalists of the Boston Globe who broke the story of Catholic priests who sexually abused young boys in their parishes. Sadly, investigative journalists are becoming a dying breed, but there are still some that approach their work with serious dedication and ethics, and they perform an important public service. I was pleased to see the documentary 20 Days in Mariupol received a Bafta award for best documentary, and I hope it will win an Oscar this year. Continuing to shine a spotlight on Russia's war crimes in Ukraine is the best way to keep the public informed about the importance of defeating this Russian invasion of Ukraine.
It's such a pleasure watching people who have no reason to know about a key historic moment of the 20th century watch a dramatization of that moment and be so interested in it. It's a tribute to the quality of this movie.
The film jumps over 1973, when the televised hearing into Watergate had millions glued.
Why did they do that? wondering
@@surferdjnj The film is about Woodstein breaking the initial story, not about the entire Watergate scandal. Besides, the film came out in 1976, so the details shown on the teletype at the end would sitll be fresh in most people's minds, so there was no need for the film to cover that ground.
@@RichardDicksondlyrch68 Exactly. Everyone had just lived through it. The only part they hadn't seen play out in their living rooms was the WoodStein/Deep Throat story.
@@surferdjnjThe book and film are about how the Washington Post broke the story. It skips over some details of how the New York Times also published significant stories in the early part of the Watergate investigation, but by the time the story broke big (i.e. about when the movie ends with the teletype headlines), Woodward, Bernstein and the Washington Post were far from the only ones covering and writing important stories about the investigation, coverup, congressional hearings, Supreme Court decisions, etc. In other words, the story could no longer be told completely and convincingly from the perspective of Woodstein and the Post, so the movie fast forwards through how the rest of the Nixon story played out.
@@markhamstra1083 When watching the documentary "Third rate burglary" which details the whole event, you have the Watergate Tapes which proved that Nixon knew all about it and the coverup, and that came out in the hearings. I thought that would have been in the film as well, but I do see the way they went with Breaking News and how to report it well.
"13 Days" is an excellent account of the cuban missile crisis.
Yes it is, but Costner was a fictitious character
@@surferdjnj No, in 1961 O'Donnell became President Kennedy's special assistant and Appointments Secretary. He later advised the President during the lead up to the Bay of Pigs invasion and during the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis.[
Yes, I’m looking forward to that reaction.
Can't wait for this reaction! There's a UA-cam channel called "History Buffs" that scrutinizes movies for historical accuracy - there is a video covering Thirteen Days and gave it a very positive review. Some dramatization as with any movie, but very accurate.
@@surferdjnjKenny O’Donnell was real. The movie overplays his role in the Crisis. It’s a pretty good trick, use an obscure participant as the viewpoint for a well known event. Gives you a bit of flexibility that you don’t get if JFK or RFK are used.
Robert Redford and Brad Pitt starred in a movie together, "Spy Game". I remember Brad's line in that movie, "Age first, before beauty."
Another highly recommended movie for review!!!
Brad Pitt was also in A River Runs Through It, directed by Redford, and then there's Moneyball and Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, where he's very deliberately echoing Redford. They have one of those special bonds between Hollywood legends.
That phone call!
The film was directed by Alan J. Pakula. If you enjoyed this film you should check out the other two films in Pakula's trilogy of paranoia, "Klute", and "The Parallax View".
...and, not as illustrious, "The Pelican Brief"..but still exciting.
@@goodowner5000 yes I agree. Not quit up to the standard of the other 3, but Pelican Brief is none the less a good film, with a terrific cast, and wonderful score by James Horner.
So glad finally someone reacted to this movie! A very underrated classic from the 70s. I honestly believe that had Rocky or Taxi Driver not come out in the same year as this film did, then this film would’ve easily won best picture. An amazing historical film about one of the most historical events in American history. Hopefully this reaction will get more people interested in reacting to it.
Another great film around that time by the same director Alan J Pakula is “The Parallax View” starring Warren Beatty.
A more modern film by Pakula is “Presumed Innocent” starring Harrison Ford.
Other notable films: Sophie’s Choice, The Pelican Brief, Klute, The Devil’s Own.
I’d also add that KLUTE was first in Pakula’s “Paranoia trilogy”
Yes, Pakula was a great director with a unique style. I hold “The Parallax View” to be his definitive film. It is flawed yet perfect. The use of liminal spaces in the film makes it both jarring and dark (Gordon Willis and Pakula had a great working relationship).
Cheers 🍺
When they built the exact duplicate of the newsroom at the studio they found the dozens of fluorescent light fixtures made noise - so all of the individual light transformers were taken out and moved to the stage next door, connected by cables.
This is one of my favorite movies . Thank you so much for Popcorn In Bed for your reactions and comments so much! I enjoyed watching this even more with you two and your input . You were piecing this together really good and the comparison to the way Zodiac was with the reporters angle was a great reference . Thank you two again I really did enjoy this a lot .
So glad you watched this movie, it is the true rabbit hole. For a dialogue movie it does a great job, building drama, tension, suspense and confusion.
This is my favorite movie, I love so many movies but this one just hits different. Book is amazing.
More Robert Redford recommendations:
Three Days of the Condor (Espionage thriller)
The Electric Horseman (Modern cowboy drama-romance)
Brubaker (Prison drama)
I'm glad that you've been working your way through Redford's movies. He's arguably my all-time favorite actor, and he's had a great career over around 60 years.
If he was remembered for only one movie in his career which do you think it would be?
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Hmm.
Probably The Natural, followed pretty closely by All The President’s Men & Jeremiah Johnson
Sound right?
@@jakehawke8196 Ohhh yeah The Natural. Keep forgetting that one. Maybe this one just because of the Oscars and historical tie-in. He's definitely like Leo DiCaprio in that it would be super hard to choose just one.
I also like him in The Hot Rock.
The Hot Rock, Sneakers, Spy game, The Sting, and many other films. He directed Quiz Show as well.
The book is excellent. Wrote a paper on it in college. This film has a young F. Muray Abraham as one of the cops who arrest the burglars. Still acting today.
Yep! He was Salieri in "Amadeus", and the primary villain Ru'afo in "Star Trek: Insurrection".
My junior year English teach showed up Forrest Gump in class and then he gave us a list of events/historical things that occurred in it and we had to pick one and write a research paper on it and I chose to do mine on watergate!
This is one of my favorite movies. I love Jason Robards as Ben Bradlee.
Ben Bradlee: "Ken, I don't want to print that you were in Sally's apartment. I just want to know what you said, in Sally's apartment"
Great way to threaten someone without threatening them!
One of my favorite lines, too.
Great reaction as always ladies,and if my memory serves me 1972 Justin Trudeau’s father Pierre was prime minister of Canada. I’m old, I know these things ❤❤❤❤
A lot of effort went into recreating the Post newsroom exactly as it looked in that period. Having been in newspapers for over 30 years, what’s shown is how the business worked and how you had to dig for stories.
Ben Bradlee was a fascinating character, a witty urbane man and a tough editor who could make a sailor blush with his language when angry. Foreign correspondent, close friend to JFK, an insider’s insider.
You should watch The Post, about the Pentagon Papers case a couple of years before Watergate, which made The Washington Post a player in national news. Tom Hanks plays Bradlee.
Besides Redford, Hoffman, and Stephen Collins (7th HEAVEN), some of the other actors you might have recognized are Jack Warden (editor Harry Rosenfeld in this, was juror 7 in 12 ANGRY MEN), Martin Balsam (managing editor Howard Simmons in this, was also in 12 ANGRY MEN as the jury foreman, and the Pi in PSYCHO), Jason Robards (Ben Bradlee in this, the patriarch in PARENTHOOD), Hal Halbrook (“Deepthroat”, was in THE FIRM), and Ned Beatty (Otis in SUPERMAN).
Not to mention the arresting officer at 4:09: F. Murray Abraham, aka Salieri from “Amadeus.”
Jason Robards also played "Cheyenne" in Once Upon a Time in the West, very very good character in one of the best westerns ever made. Also worth mentioning, Jack Warden was in my fav comedy Used Cars where he played two brothers.
@@killroy23 yep but I was trying to limit myself to just listing those films they’ve watched on the channel.
Ned Beatty ... They are overdue for Deliverance.
Jason Robards was one of those actors who was always ~present~ in the background of my childhood... in so many things (like Gene Hackman), but I personally remember him most fondly in "Max Dugan Returns", because I loved that movie as a kid.
There have been 6 presidents named James (including Jimmy Carter) and one named Zachary Taylor, but no James Taylor. James Taylor is a musician who was popular around that time.
I think James Taylor was married to or living with Carly Simon??? She would have been a popular singer in the 1970s as well. "You're so vain" came out in Nov 1972
@@francescathomas3502 I think that song is about me.
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Carly Simon = the lady with the three cock mouth.
James Taylor's album called 'Mudslide Slim' was one of my favourite albums at the time, especially the song 'You've got a friend'. Some songs never seem to age.
@@francescathomas3502 James Taylor was married to Carly Simon from 1972 until 1983. They are rock royalty. Carly is now 80 years-old and Taylor is 76 years-old.
My favorite movie!!!! I was a journalism major in college, and my professor/advisor was this amazing old man who had been working in the newspaper business since he was 14. We watched this movie in class and instantly became my favorite movie. I’m so excited to watch this reaction!!!
I remember watching this film for the first time. The simplistic way of filmmaking, no fancy stuff, yet I was completely captivated and was on the edge of my seat.
The beauty of the film is The Story, not by fancy fluff to make it sparkly and such. It deals with hard facts, and Life as it pretty was, back in early 1970's. That is the main point of it. Telling how it went down, and that works so much better than so many films of today.
@@jaquesshugossen9398 yes, filmmakers should take notes.
Yeah when I heard it won Oscars I thought it would have a lot more flair to it. It's really straightforward.
Frost vs Nixon 2008 movie. It was a great film about Nixon being interviewed after he resigned.
A good follow up to this movie!
Kay- "Senators and Presidents don't have people killed Michael."
Micheal- "Now who's being naive Kay?"
The Godfather
When journalists actually investigated instead of parroting what they've been told to print.
Or what they’ve seen on social media. 🙄
It's not just journalists. The American population overall, is less adult, less mature, less educated.
Basically children, who need safe spaces and feel-good pandering.
I like reporter movies, and this is one of the best. Some more recent ones that you may consider watching: "State of Play", "Spotlight", "Nightcrawler" or "The Post". Also Robert Redford and the bookkeeper lady were together in "Brubaker" a few years later.
Okay, I'm thrilled to see you reacting to "All The President's Men!" I've read the book, by Woodward and Bermstein, and have watched this amazing movie many times. It's in my top 5 of all-time favorite movies, for two reasons, one, it is a superbly done Journalism Thriller, and two, it speaks to how important the free press is in maintaining a democracy. There are never enough of these kind of movies...the kind that teach you something and do a great job of entertaining you at the same time! By the way, I thought you both did a first-rate job of following the complex plot of this story...especially considering that this was your first time watching it. You have a WONDERFUL channel, thank you for your outstaning work putting this great content together for us!
My entire family watched the Watergate hearings. Everybody did. "Deep Throat" was revealed a few years ago. Actually lived down the road from me in Santa Rosa. No one had any idea.
Must've been weird having everyone and their grandmother saying 'Deep Throat' all the time. Lol. Unfortunate code name imo.
@@ct6852 Yeah. It was also the name of an adult film at the time.
Fun fact: for the newsroom, the filmmakers actually went to the real Washington post newsroom and recreated every single detail on a set in Burbank studios. And Ben Bradlee who was the executive editor of the newspaper went to see the set and was impressed that they got exactly right and even his daughter who usually comes to hang around was astonished by it and even put her coat in the same chair in her dad’s office.
Plus Jason Robards who played Ben Bradlee was so good that he not only won an oscar for it but also Ben Bradlee started to act like Robards’s version of himself
the movie only cover the first half of the book
The movie covers almost two-thirds of the book. The last scene of the movie with Woodward and Bernstein occurs on January 20, 1973 with Nixon on tv taking the oath of office in the background. Nixon’s second inaugural goes unmentioned in the book, which is instead focused on the trial of the burglars, Hunt and Liddy, which ended on January 30 with all seven men either pleading guilty or being found guilty. That’s the end of Chapter 11, so the movie covers ten days short of eleven chapters while omitting the last six, but the teletype headlines at the end of the movie cover most of the important events that occur in the last six chapters of the book, and then go further to cover the remainder of Nixon’s presidency. The last chapter of the book ends with Nixon’s State of the Union address in 1974, so a little more than a year after the end of Chapter 11.
Much better than the set built for "The Post".
I've literally done searches for All the President's Men reactions on a regular basis for a couple of years now. Stumbling on this made for a great breakfast-time watch! Thanks ladies. Hope others follow suit. One of the greatest core casts ever assembled; perfectly-paced storytelling, brilliant writing. And, though I never thought about it until watching this reaction, a wonderful technology (or lack thereof) time capsule for younger people to observe - - how things were done with just a couple of tools; no internet, no cell phones, no word processors. Just a lot of paper, ink and brains.
18:17 I love this whole scene with Woodward on the phone with Dalhberg, the slow zoom in during the whole conversation just builds the tension perfectly.
This was such a huge story back when I was in Junior High. The Congressional hearings were broadcast on every network all day. When John Dean told them about the recording system in the Oval Office, it was a massive story. Nice to see you guys watching this one, even though it was a couple months ago :)
This is the first reaction to this movie on youtube as far as i know. I've been waiting for this. I used to watch "All the president's men", along with the lotr/hobbit movies, over and over again before falling asleep. As i already knew the stories, there were no cliffhangers, and i could shut it off whenever i got sleepy, or fall asleep listening to it without worrying about losing my place. Later, i used an audio book of "the hound of the baskervilles" for the same purpose.
Other movies in this jounalism genre include "spotlight" and "the post", but neither are as good as this one.
That machine at the end was a teletype machine, i think. The speed was too regular to have been a human typing.
I think you would really enjoy “The Paper” with Michael Keaton and Glenn Close. A forgotten gem IMHO.
A good movie. I think Marissa Tomai did it after My Cousin Vinny.
Great suggestion! I loved that movie.
I loved this movie.
For a great thriller starring Robert Redford, I suggest Three Days of the Condor. Alan J Pakula, who directed All thevPresident's Men, made a great political thriller starring Warren Beatty called The Parallax View.
Excellent choice girls. Watergate went on for years. It's final iteration was early 80s the excellent Washington Behind Closed Doors drama series.
Barry Goldwater who was a staunch republican senator from Arizona, went to see President Nixon, telling him that the next day the senate would vote to impeach him, he then said "Mr President you do not have my vote". Nixon then realized he would be impeached and decided to resign rather than being impeached.
A movie about past journalism is like watching a movie about an extinct species in a rain forest that's been bulldozed.
Bulldozed. That's a good word for it.
Kenneth Dahlberg's neighbor's wife really was kidnapped. The ransom request was considered the highest in history up to that date.
Always wondered was that a story to put off Woodward or if true
Always wondered what that had to do with Dahlberg. If HIS wife was kidnapped, I get it. I don't even know my neighbor's name (new guy), so if his wife was kidnapped, I wouldn't treat it as a personal crisis.
Yes, it's true. It was a footnote in their book at that point of the story.
This is such a classic story based on actual events. All these years later it's still captivating to watch. At one point you mentionned loving "reporting" movies, let me suggest "The Paper" from 1994. It has a stellar cast Michael Keaton, Marisa Tomei, Randy Quaid, Robert Duvall, Glenn Close and so much more.
A sort of prequel of this story is the 2017 movie "The Post". Tom Hanks plays Ben Bradlee. Definetly worth a watch!
A great follow up movie to this is Frost/Nixon from 2008. Glad you watched this one!
Another president centered movie to watch is _In The Line of Fire_ starring Clint Eastwood. He plays a secret service agent who blames himself for Kennedy's assassination in Dallas. Now another assassin (played by John Malkovich) is planning to kill the current president, and it's up to Eastwood's character to try and stop him.
And in another such film starring and directed by Clint, _Absolute power,_ a burglar sees the President murder his mistress and... well, just watch the movie!!
Also, 1805movie, thanks for using italics for the title of a movie. You and I, I fear, are a dying breed, those who know that this is the correct thing to do.
I think she reacted to it about a year ago.
She has already seen In the Line of Fire.
Loved this! Lived through Watergate in my college years. It was incredibly fascinating and absorbing. It’s a long story, but a great story. I love the clothes and haircuts in this film. Definitely a 70’s time capsule. Ps also love that Volvo they drove around in!
And (sorry Cassie) as an American, I correctly guessed that the PM of Canada in 1972 was Pierre Trudeau.
Great reaction as always. Three points:
1. This move chronicles a shining moment in journalism, as well as the beginning of its downfall. After Watergate and this film, generations of journalism students wanted desperately to be the next Woodward and Bernstein and take down someone in power, objectivity be damned.
2. The Internet has given us much to appreciate, not the least of which is a chance to get to know you two wonderful ladies, but it also put the final nail in the coffin of responsible journalism. We're awash in a glut of non-sourced clickbait that has become indistinguishable from actual reporting.
3. In the 2016 election one presidential candidate's office was bugged by the opposing party, and the story barely merited a ripple in the media. That's how much our society has changed.
And the Trump-Russia Hoax was far worse than Watergate.
The attention to detail is amazing.
Another good film about reporters investigating a possible crime is "Absence of Malice" (1981) starring Paul Newman and Sally Field.
This movie is based on the book of the same name. Bob Woodward also wrote a book about the source he met in the garage and about the man who's testimony cracked the white house taping issue. He's an incredible writer, highly recommend all 3 books (All the President's Men, The Secret Man, and The Last President's Man respectively)
Great viewing Poppy, should follow up with “The Post” about the release of the Pentagon Papers!
"The Post" is excellent. Agreed.
"How does this throat guy know everything?". He was number 2 guy at the FBI. This came out decades after the events.
The fact that he was the number 2 guy at the FBI came out after the events of the movie, yes. It almost sounded like you were saying this, the movie, came out decades after the events IRL. ;)
It's not presidential (senatorial, in actuality) but a great historically accurate politics/news/reporting story in movie form is _Good Night and Good Luck_ starting Ed Strathairn as Edward R. Murrow (he does a great job) with George Clooney (who also directed) and Robert Downey Jr. About the fall of Senator McCarthy in the 1950s.
In regard to who was the Canadian Prime Minister in 1972, an easy guess is Pierre Trudeau. Just because he had such a long tenure and any association I have places him into mainly the 1970s.
Your surprise about people being able to find your address and phone number in a phone book. You realize a lot more than that is available online in current times. FYI: "Heartburn," made in 1986, is about Bernstein's marriage. Stars Meryl Streep and Jack Nicholson. You may also want to watch Robert Redford in "The Candidate."
ah yes the good old days when the white pages were available at every public phone booth. the white pages your name address and phone number and nothing else was available to everyone everywhere and no one said boo.
They'd do a great reaction to "Heartburn", ha! The pizza scene! "The Candidate" is a good one too.
I also found that so adorable when surprised about the Phone Book directory. In some countries you also had "Yellow Pages" only for companies. It is a very good film to show what life was like, especially in journalism, back in the day, when internet wasn't around and you couldn't google everything.
That always amazes me too. In the old days, the only thing the whole public had access to was an address and phone number. Nowadays, we just give it all away, in exchange for "free" internet and apps.
@@jillk368That is the way one grew up in the old days... also phones were plugged into a wall, or the ground as in something called a Payphone, or Phonebooth.
It does also make one rethink "The Terminator"... Wouldn't the T-800 have had access to the addresses of the future via the Internet as in today? 🙂
My favorite journalism movie is Absence of Malice, a 1981 film starring Paul Newman and Sally Field with a stellar performance by Wilford Brimley. I always look forward to your reactions. Thanks.
Is that a true story?
One investigative journalism movie I used to like was an old french movie called Etat de Siege, 1973. There was also an interesting american movie from the 40's called Meet John Doe, but it was more a simple critique about the press.
I'd love to see PiB do Spotlight
@@ct6852No, although it was written by an actual former journalist. It's brilliant- one of Newman's finest performances and a great supporting performance by Wilford Brimley.
LOVE THIS MOVIE. I'd also suggested it as a watch for them elsewhere. It's what I call a 'juicy" movie like ATPM, Zodiac, Silkwood, and Three Days of the Condor. The kind of movie you just sit down and get involved in, and are guaranteed to enjoy.
Carl Bernstein is often on CNN even now! And Bob Woodward too. They are real American heroes.
And Trump haters. So not neutral today in their old age.
@@johnbrowne2170 You weren't paying attention to the movie, sweetheart.
@@Madbandit77 I've watched the movie half a dozen times. And I've read Bernstein and Woodwards books. They hate Trump more than Nixon.
@@johnbrowne2170 Because Captain Mango is more destructive and less smart than Nixon.
@@Madbandit77 A cantaloupe is smarter than Biden and Harris combined.
If you want an interesting follow-up film related to Nixon, check out Frost/Nixon (2008) starring Frank Langella as Nixon, Michael Sheen as David Frost
Bob Woodward is still active as a joirnalist. He wrote a great book about prez 45, called Fear.
Carl Bernstein is still active, also.
All the sounds of the 70's are amazing, phones ringing, phones being cradled, the typewriters, the sound of the the TV and radios, stand out in this film.
Director Alan J Pakula overlaid the sound of gunshots over the news blotter.
@@tremorsfan As in "putting the nails in the coffin" of Nixon's political career.
Was it more practical in the 80's ?
I can't recommend watching Spotlight from 2015 enough. Heavy subject matter, but highlights why we need top-tier journalism
The constant shots of TVs playing in the background in the newsroom now feel like a subtle bit of foreshadowing of how the news would soon become entertainment and good hard journalism like Woodstein did here would become a thing of the past.
What about Spotlight. That was the Boston Globe. The investigation started shortly before 9/11.
32:00 There's something wholesome about the mother from Family Ties and the father from 7th Heaven having played husband and wife in this movie
This is the 3rd in,director Alan Pakula's Paranoia Trilogy. First was Klute (with Jane Fonda in an,Oscar-winning performance - maybe the Best Performance by an actress,in,an,American,film since 1960 to 2001 when Naomi Watts was in Mulholland Dr) second was The Parallax View with Warren Beatty and 3rd was this film which rewrote the book on,how you build,suspense.
Thanks again for being the best!