2024 Toyota Tacoma on the Dyno VS 3rd gen Tacoma on the Dyno
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- We just got our 2024 Toyota Tacoma the day before and we are putting the truck on the dyno today. We plan to modify the Tacoma as soon as possible so we wanted to get dyno numbers while it was still stock. The results from the dyno is amazing! The 2024 Tacoma is putting out as much torque as a V8 Tundra, which is insane.
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Wow, that's pretty impressive over the 3rd Gen!
Wait for the hybrids 😮 even better!
@@Vec135I know right?! It's going to be ridiculous!
Forced induction is king at high elevations. Also that's really impressive how little drivetrain loss there is on the 4th gen.
It's just Toyota fibbin about numbers, definitely not a efficient drivetrain
@@Vultite since the LS460 8speed unveiled in 2006
Lexus and Toyota all ways Focus on power loss
They mentioned that in the LC500 release with the 10 speed trans
@Vultite did you even watch the video?
This is why i don't like the 3.5, 238 torque at 4900 rpm is doo doo, that means at 2500 you are making maybe 170.....
You can see it on the graph. At 2.5k it's only making roughly 100
@@emmanuelmedina2740 that’s terrible
when you strap a turbo to the 3.5 it makes 500 ft lbs at that rpm. problem solved. no gay 4 banger needed
Next time pls do a still shot of the graph so we could see where peak hp and trq come in at. It looks around 4k is peak but thats from a blury paused shot
I want to see someone drop the Tundra v6 twin turbo into the new Tacoma.
Great video. Had the older gen Tundra and went to the 4th gen and WOW on the torque and HP gain. Looks like the Tacoma is in the same boat. Still great to see it proven via a Dyno test even if the results are not too surprising. Assuming you own that Tacoma I'm looking forward to seeing the modifications.
317 ft-lbs advertised vs. 307 on the dyno is only like a 3.2 % loss at the wheels. There's normally a 25 - 30 % loss at the wheels which would put it at 237 ft-lbs at best. It makes you think that Toyota is underrating the torque of the new Tacoma engine.
The v6 is rated at 265 pound feet and had about a 15% loss. It looks cold where they're at which helps on boosted powertrains but that turbo is putting in work.
Depends on the dyno. Numbers can skew easily
It also has more torque way lower in rpm. Think i heard them say 1700rpm is near peak torque, which is incredible. All of this means nothing if it lost reliability, though. A lot of people are concerned about it. I'll wait for 2025 or 2026 model before i even consider it. Great video, and thanks!
The truck comes with a 5 year 60,000 mile powertrain warranty. You could enjoy it now and for the next 4 or 5 years and then sell it for the best resale value of any truck.
This engine had to exceed the reliability and durability of the previous 3.5 in order for them to use it according to the Tacoma chief engineer. Toyota wouldn’t put this motor in the tacoma, 4runner and Landcruiser if they weren’t sure of it.
I mean, lets hope. They can say whatever they want but the proof will be long term usage out in the real world. @@Weatherby406
Really appreciate you guys doing this test. You’re satisfying A LOT of curiosity that’s out there!
Still waiting for the 3.5 v6 turbo kit update
these guys are a joke, all their products are rebranded chinese crap. Guarantee theyre scrapping the turbo cause it's easier to sell junk and ignore customers
Thanks for doing this!
Looking forward to your videos on the new gen, Kai.
The dyno battle we didn't know we needed.
Can't wait to see the I force max hybrid numbers. Good by v6, yes, reliable but low pwr. Hello turbo 4cyl with IFmax.
Can you compare the 2024 stock with a 3rd gen 5:29 regear?
Great video!!! Time for a 4th gen so I can have some power 🤣 and I saw cbi was able run 35s easily compare to the 3rd gen’s thought that was cool on them to
Toyota underrated the horsepower and torque numbers for the new gen. That’s awesome! Good that the dyno readings were SAE corrected since STD reads a little higher. Probably 310hp and 340 lb/ft tq to the crank instead of the advertised 278hp and 317 lb/ft tq
It could also be the dyno. Dynojets are known to read high so it seems pretty on point. I would like to see the 3rd gen and 4th gen in lower elevation to see if they are the same
@@gobzillagaming1277i don't think so because u can see how far off it's on the 3rd gen compared to the 4th gen so Toyota underrated the 4th gen forsure
Can’t wait until the raptor come out on the pro version!
Love it that you guys got the new Tacoma. Can't wait for all your mods
Thanks!! We are stoked to get it built
Excellent content
Weak numbers for 50k
That’s what I was thinking!!! Like with everything else they’re all trying to do more with less. I wish they’d bring back the v6 with the TRD supercharger program
@@brokenwrench404for what? 12 mpg and more emissions? Why else would toyota go 4cyl turbo
@@beexiong2995 Try 21 mpg or better
Feel free not to buy one critic
or just put the v6 in front of that 8 speed......that would have made the tacoma "best in class"@@brokenwrench404
You’re using the smoothing 5 setting on the dyno runs so we need to see a comparison of the Colorado Trail Boss for a same day sample run to rule out a happy dyno.
It’s a truck not a race car. Trucks are for towing and hauling junk.
You want speed, get a Ferrari.
The tundra 5.7 v8 makes 401 lb ft of torque..how is the tacoma close? It's off by like 100 lb ft.
You’re comparing crank vs wheel
@@kyleottosen1021so the 2024 tacoma makes 306 ft lb of torque at the wheel, what does the tundra produce?
I May be wrong but to the wheels the tundra does 338-340 to the wheels 👍 (for the 5.7)
@@OfficialAing thanks, well if that is the case with the tundra, than it isn't that bad for the tacoma.
Interestingly, the advertised figures for the 4th Gen appear to be underrated. I'd still speculate that there's an average of 15% driveline loss. With that stated, that would make the crank power output roughly 307HP and 352HP, assuming I did my math right.
And MFs will still complain about the 2024 being a turbocharged 4-cylinder. SMH
@@upforanadventure3039 sure about that??
The numbers on the 3rd gen aren’t making sense. I’ve seen people at sea level dyno 3rd gen’s at around 200-205 hp. How are you taking a 15% +/- loss at 5000+ ft elevation, yet showing 35-40 more horsepower than dynos at sea level??
Which begs the question about reliability of the 4 Cyl turbo.
Only time will tell.
Hopefully the reliability mess with the new V6 turbo will not spill over the little 4 Cyl. Turbo
Hey guys, so what’s the update on the 3rd gen turbo kit? Been trying to get feedback on this and haven’t gotten a response.
I'd like to see dyno runs of the '24 on different octanes. Does the taco really only need 87 vs. premium..
The sure thing i knw about turbo is it wear out the engine alot faster than without it. Yeah it's fast but also fast on wearing out your engine. Reliability wise Id stick to the V6. All and all Tacoma's not built to race. It's a good enough everyday truck
Nothing against the new tacoma but pushing the small 4 cylinders engine to produce close to a v8, it just screams the longevity going out the window.
A 4cyl with 300 torque...idk dawg
Thank you for doing this, crazy how much more power it makes than what Toyota says it does.
It’s unfortunate that the forced induction will wear-out internals faster than displacement and NA V8 options. So much for durability Toyota
Thank you for this test and your true statements about hp and torque on the ground vs. the crank.
The 3rd will always look 20x better. 4th gen is just a high $ 4wd civic
So nowhere near the numbers Toyota said? :D
Did Toyota just do the Ranger better?
The prize
The end
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Damn it’s a new truck and you’re already pushing it
The new 4th gen Tacoma putting out similar power to the old v8 Tundra is crazy! I cant wait to see the new I-Force Max numbers!
Still going to go with the 3rd gen. Strictly from a reliability standpoint.
Pretty inflated numbers especially at elevation. The correction factor must be high
Yet weighs as much as a first gen tundra
DON"T care too much of the horse,, BUT do care TORQUE,, you measurement the 2024 new tacobell high torque 306 foot pound appears at-----4000 rpm,, a bit of pity,,, because high torque arrival little late at high rpm 4000,,
Yes,, 300 foot pounds torque is formidable for a 4000 pounds vehicle,, is this one come with twin turbo ?? my ford 3.5 ecoboost equip with twin turbo but still need to strike up to 4000 rpm to achieve 500 foot pound torque,, but at low rpm 1300 I feel the turbo kicks in,, and the quick accel at 1500 rpm start,T 1500 rpm I believe 3.5 ecoboost kicks out 160---180 foot pound torque already which is hell a good to punch the vehicle forward swiftly,, ,, 20 psi turbo pressure gauge display, but never seen the turbo pressure higher than 15 psi usage,, no need it,,,
I hope the taco able to show such details,,,
Are you going to dyno the hybrid?
More torque, earlier. 4th gen for the win. 4th gen 4Runner w/ 2UZ makes close but not close enough power. And they weigh about the same. Think about that.
Really interesting. I am most intrigued seeing the HP figures since they are rated the same, but that turbo really helps real world here in Colorado.
the music wtf
The 3rd gen definitely didn’t come stock with good year duratracs
When is the IForce max coming out, also will you going to trade this in for the IForce ?
Is all this horses and torques gonna matter when you mod it and put more weight on it, nope!
Which two turtles are battling it out, men or machines?
Turbo will make a huge difference at altitude.
Where is the update on the 3rd gen turbo kit?!!
Really impressed with the area under the HP curve compared to the old truck. Stoked to see what the hybrid unit puts down especially on the low end.
Before the break in period? Just curious and numbers look awesome.
Do a draggy test on them now please. That’s more important than a dyno comparison. I’m a bit let down by the numbers of the gen 4. In 2024 those are not impressive numbers from a 4 cylinder anymore. I have a feeling the draggy test might favor the gen 3:/ at least the gen 4 should be tunable now tho.
First Toyota never builds fast engines lol, the Tacoma was always the slowest in its segment and yet people lined up to buy them. Secondly the new 24 smokes the previous generations in acceleration, test drive one and you will immediately know for yourself. Otherwise watch some videos here on UA-cam they raced them and the 24 just walks the 3.5L
Very nice video! Can’t wait to see the hybrid being tested too. Toyota is on a absolute roll
00:08 Battle of the Turtles. 😅😭🤣
Curious how hot the turbo will be getting making that 4 cylinder make power. Especially if you have larger tires and weight.
Hot enough that it ships with a radiator and water pump.
Ya the new tundra isn’t a v8… it’s a v6
Holy Shit. Never go to that dyno again. Strapping from the trailer hitch. YIKES! Do it right or don’t do it at all.
The hitch is literally the strongest point on the rear of a truck tho.
So the 4 cylinder turbo has to work harder and probably won’t last as long as the v6, correct me if I’m wrong.
The old 2.7l regularly outpaces the 4.0l and the 3.5l in terms on longevity. And you know a 150hp motor pushing around a 4-5k lbs truck around for 300k plus miles is impressive.
VS super charged 3rd gen?
Do it when the iforce Tacoma drops
I havent researched the new engine too much, but turbo and direct injetction has proven to be a disaster in most makes...carbon build up, cylinder wall wash downs (fuel forced by turbo PSI passed the rings) etc. First year engines and transmissions are always a gamble. It's a toyota so im sure its still going to be better than most other turbo 4cyl trucks out there but i dont think theyll last like the v6es do.
D4S
4 cyl turbos arent new to toyota tho. This isnt a kia motor
Look up toyota D4S system
it sounds like a diesel. i love it
It’s not really close to the 5.7 tho
True
The torque numbers are literally less than 50ft/lbs apart at the wheel.
@@emmanuelmedina2740 from the tundra ??? The 5.7 tundra puts out 400foot pounds. On the dyno it puts out 370flbs 3k rpm’s to the wheels. Also that’s with my 35 inch tires you would loose all your power with even 34s.
@robertespinoza2740 oh, so your tundra is special?
Your truck ain't pushing 370lbs/ft to the wheels on 35s bud. The Tundra doesn't even push that on stock size tires.
Your truck would be the only one on the planet with just 8% power loss over crank. Quit capping
You guys are awesome
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4th Gen is superior to 3rd gen in every metric. Looks sharper too.
speaking too soon
@skateinspace I probably wasn't clear, but I'm talking about first impressions. More torque, more HP, better towing, can easily fit 35s without a CMC, upgraded interior, a ton of factory accessories. Easy pick over a 3rd gen.
The price for one is the issue
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Great Video!
What the point of more power if they all have catastrophic failure before 100k miles
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heck yeah great content
Nice review! GMC at4x knocked it off the radar!
..........and now they burned up the 4 popper's turbo
Shouldn't you be comparing a 23 to the 24. How many miles on that 2018?
The new tacoma is nothing but a piss off turbo Weedwhacker now they needed to Dyno the taco in the manual transmission as well just saying in comparing as well
But no one’s talking about the -50% decrease in reliability, just for +9% hp…
very common for 3rd sec and first gen , this is a completely new truck with a turbo @@upforanadventure3039
We will see. I had a mazdaspeed 3 with 450whp and 200k miles on the stock block. Ended up selling it.