The vault shoes aren't really supposed to be more durable, they're just supposed to be closer to how original vans were made (and looked) . The pros are their more durable shoes.
I used to believe that but mine were dead by one year of usage just like regular Vans. They became really flimsy, as if I was using a very thick sock with a rubber sole. I gotta admit, the sole was nice and very durable but the rest of the shoe was bad or maybe worse than the regular ones.
The only issue I had with the pros was the binding tape cracking, but not to the point it was unwearable. The shoes are still alive and getting used today, 4 years after buying it.
They are not meant to be more durable in the long term they are meant to withstand what skateboarding puts shoes through and the reinforcements aren’t in the sole, it is under the toes and sides of the feet so skaters don’t tear a hole as quickly in the shoes
Marco Mastropietro The soles on the pros are definitely different from the normal Vans. It feels like they have a deeper tread pattern and use a slightly less sticky but more durable rubber. If you take the insole out you can see they don’t have the built in wedge at the back of the normal vans so the footbed is completely flat. They’re also pointier, the arch comes in a bit more so they fit better and the foxing comes nice and high like on the vault ones. It always takes me much longer to wear down the tread under my heel, but that’s probably down to the insole. We need to see him gut a pair in half!
lmao this dude is just pulling the curtain back on every consumer shoe we have ever purchased. jesus no one is safe our blind consumerism has led us down the path of paying for trash materials and barely upgraded premium models of shoes. keep up the great work!!
It really depends on which vault model I worked at vans and I will only wear vault shoes most of the time you can find them on sale for the same price as regulars and an 8 hour day in regular vans and an 8 hour day in vaults make a huge difference there's also variations he chose just basic vaults the colab ones there's a massive difference in quality you can feel it instantly
@@MovieGuy666 I like them bc they're nice looking and cheap enough for popular sneakers. I live in my vans during the summer. My family does lots of gardening (enough to feed a family if 8 with enough seeds left over for next year so BIG garden for 4 ppl to deal with) I've built our house in my vans, cut and logged wood in them, have chickens, chop wood, do general yard work, box and weightlift in them. And they last me 2-3 years, so for what I put them through I'd say they're good. I just have 2 pairs, the oldest becomes the scapegoat 'work' shoes while the nicer pair is for going out until my 'work' ones get a hole in them and the nice pair becomes the work pair.
I would literally pay money to see a pair of the Defcon Vans cut in half and examined. They are supposedly made with "warrior suede" - some kind of waterproof, oil-resistant, and fire retardant super suede. Plus the highest level of quality control that vans offers. Aside from being complete unobtanium considering they sell out within 10 seconds every time they release a new model, they are really cool styling wise. Some of the sickest footwear on the market as far as I'm concerned. But I've always been curious if any of their claims are legit considering the few pairs I've seen in real life have had some goofy looking imperfections right out of the box.
I have a set of old ones, they kicked ass and I’m considering getting them restored, unless someone wants to buy them and send them to this channel lol
never had my vans fail like that. They usually fail around toe box where the tape will separate where the foot bends.I heel drag a lot, so even with all the damage the bottom never come off like that.
I really hate how vans midsole easily separate on the toebox foot bending side. That's why I will never buy vault line, there are no different between them except looks. Better to buy pro series, it's cheaper than vault
Same. The tape becomes unb of unbound from the canvas around the border of the toe box, where the bend is. The tape and the rubber start to crack there.
He has, he said in another video he wanted to start doing coats and purses and stuff but those designer products are very expensive. He's growing until then.
That could end up being crazy expensive. Leather jackets are always upwards of $1000 each. Besides, what is there to cut in half and discover? They’re already open.
There are plenty of Vault shops that offer free shipping, and you can offer find heavy discounts on Vault stuff. Love my Vault stuff, and the "Pro" line stuff as well.
I just bought my first vans since I was a youngling. They were on sale and bought them so quick I didn't realize they were some sort of winter vans. Now I have to wait till the fall at least to try them out. They don't have any shiny leather. They have soft plaid cloth where the cheap leather is on the vaults. They're also really thick everywhere. This will definitely be warm for the winter.
oops lol. Yeah, MTE (Mountain edition) shoes would have water-resistant leather or suede uppers, thicker linings, and lug outsole (I usually call it a reverse waffle). They start selling them for the fall and winter and they try to get rid of them now that they are out of season. They may be a little toasty right now, but hopefully they'll work out for you in the future lol.
footwear designer here, I have a pair of Vans Vault OG Half Cab Lx’s. I haven’t had the outsole start separating from the midsole, although one issue is that the midsole’s outermost tape tends to loosen up over time due to creasing. love this dissection by the way.
i got one too , but i dont like the small toe of 70s & the stripe . When i take it on my hand , it seems beautiful but when on feet them , 70s look worse than classic chuck because of its sihoutte ( just my personal opinion ) , the quality is on point tho
Never owned a pair of the Vault Vans but based on this I’d still opt for the Pro models line of Vans. Those models have the best quality/durability I’ve seen and don’t wear through the heels
Love this channel. You should cut in half some very puffy skate shoes like the DC Lynx OG or an Osiris D3. Those are just a couple of examples, but there are plenty of puffy skate shoes being re-released nowadays.
Another suggestion: I'd love to see a breakdown on the Veja leather sneakers - especially as they brand themselves as being more environmentally sustainable
I've never had a pair of Vans fail at the heel. I always wear mine out at the ball of the foot. Usually the sides split where the foot bends and/or I literally wear a hole through the sole.
I have 2 vault by vans pairs and both opened on the sides just like regular vans, they’re kind of overpriced for what you get, but they’re reallyyy comfy! If you can get them on sale it is worth, the style is even better than regulars!
I’ll add that there are 2 types of Vans vault tiers. There’s the true to the original model (which is the one reviewed here) and another one that is used for collaborations (boutique exclusive colors and other brands). The collab model ranges from $90-120 but is much higher quality than the “regular” vault model.
I love the Vault's! I have several pairs and would never buy the standard Sk8 Hi's any more. I agree with you-the differences are slight-but well worth it. Especially the leather liner and the more comfortable footbed. I also like them much more aesthetically. They just look like a nicer shoe.
Your channel is one of the only things getting me through this quarantine. I've been going to and from work other than that, and the entire time (and then some) I've been wearing a pair of crevo boots. I've actually had them for about 2 years now, and they haven't given me any problems after months of hard wear. For $95, I'd love to see you cut them in half.
On every pair of Vans I've ever owned, the binding tape stuff near the big toe always breaks and separates from the canvas, then on the other side near the pinkie toe. Usually I wear them until the sole on the heel wears through. I sometimes get mild separation of the sole like you mentioned but for me the rubber wears through before that becomes an issue.
They should make aa super pro version where everything is turned up to 11!! All material is twice as tick and better quality, leather is from like a baby walrus, gold shoelace eyelids, superior leather laces, hand mad and signed by Tony Hawk, with a price of like $2,000!! I mean if Belieqnagi or whatever the hell their name is, can sell highheald Crocks for over $600 (yup saw them in personal at Nordstrom!! I though it was just a meme!!) then my super high quality premium idea makes a lot of sense!!
cut up a pair of bass weejuns! I'm curious about the leather quality at its price point especially as its a heritage brand that produces their product overseas now
Definitely check out the Vans Chima Pro 2. I've found them to be insanely durable and as someone flat footed who dealt with the pain of Vans w/o inserts... They're WAY more comfortable to boot.
I've got a pair of normal grey vans for like 4 years at least, and since they were quite beaten up and I wanted a flat shoe so it naturally became my workout sneaker. I bought another full white vans and only realised my grey vans were quite dirty. I cleaned it up only to realise how durable they were. Although the mid soles beside my toes were separated and needs to be reglued, but that can be fixed easily.
This is the first video I've ever seen by this guy and I found really interesting. I thought it was satisfying when he was tearing the shoes apart. These videos are cool
Would you consider cutting open hiking boots? I need a new pair and whenever I go shopping, I'm stymied by the prices and would love to know which ones have the best inner construction. Thanks.
I would say the Vault options are not necessarily supposed to be “better”. Big part of the appeal is in the retro design, just as with the Chuck 70s. They position it as a niche product with a more limited demand.
@Marc Carran 70s have a different last. And yes, the shoes have some features that perhaps make them better, but in my opinion the main draw of these lines are how they look closer to how original vans/converse looked (and were made). I believe Chuck 70s first appeared in Japan. The Japanese market is crazy about vintage Americana and wanted something closer to vintage shoes because what they saw in stores didn´t look the same. Levi´s is another great example of this. Japanese first got in touch with Levi´s during the american occupation after WWII and when the brand entered Japan, the stuff just wasn´t the same. Thus was born the Levis Vintage Clothing line and other repro brands. The same thing also happened with Red Wing (Red Wing Heritage line was born in Japan and then Europe, before reaching the USA). Obviously, all these companies saw potential in what their Japanese divisions were making and decided to implement the strategy globally. Converse 70s are just Converse JP without the Vibram soles. It doesn´t make sense to change the whole look of a shoe that is selling to make them closer to the originals, so we have these retro lines that are premium in construction (a bit) but mostly marketed through storytelling. They are niched at a certain market that´s into the story behind these designs. They are also probably produced in smaller numbers (wich also drives costs up by a bit). What I´m saying is that even if they had the exact same construction and materials, I wouldn´t call them overpriced because the change in design is also one might want to pay an extra $20 bucks for. The notion of better quality can also be in how something looks!
In my personal experience,vault are much more comfortable than the original version(not as comfortable as the pro series,it’s not bouncy,but won’t hurt your feet neither) plus they last longer than the original and never really fall apart like the original tend to. The less durable canvas inside makes the shoes feels nicer on foot. If you’re willing to spend the extra money I will say go for it.
Yes, very inrerested too in Palladium boots. For me canvas ones are most interesting high rise and low rise, similar to converse style ones. They have interesting canvas tipe called moleskine.
I really feel like his channel could blow up big time if he got more into (hype) sneakers.. I started watching him because of the shattered backboards and have been loving the content since! He has some awesome knowledge about shoes and leather. Imagine combining that with cutting open classic sneakers like Air Force 1’s
I used to wear nothing but Vans, but something happened along the way. In high school back in 1996 I had “Old School Hightops” and they lasted 3 freakin years. As an adult about 10 years ago I got my favorite high school shoe again and they were falling apart in about 3 months with much easier mileage. Vans have turned into crap, and I am not sure what exactly changed, but something definitely did. The binding tape was coming off on the front row box, the sole was peeling off the back as you described, and the canvass was tearing at the stitches on the outside portion of one of the shoes. They were purchased at a Vans store in case that matters to anyone.
2:53 The thong it’s wider because on the regular ones it used to slide either left or right and was really hard to always put it back in the place. Also, the midsole is a little bit longer because the suede on the regular ones used to brake above the big toe.
I own both the navy and black pair of the Vaults. Heck, most of my collection is situated around them. They're worth every penny, and you can always find certain styles on sale.
i have a pair od sk8 hi iwth checkered pattern from the Anaheim collection, and they are very similar to these vault ones. They have to plastic piece on the inside (its called ultra-cush) and a higher foxing tape
I got the white Vault Oldskools, back in 2017. I wore them everyday almost. The sole has minimal drags, and I only stopped wearing them because, I scratched the side of the sneaker, but other than that, it's still amazing.
I've been a collector, seller, and skater of Vans Syndicate, Vault, Anaheim, General Release, you name it. I've examined them thoroughly. The most important factor for durability comes down to the rubber compounds they use for the waffle and which factory they are produced in. The craftsmanship varies depending on this and you can refer to the 2-3 letter code on the waffle sole. The foxing and overall shape was always great from DT, HF, and ZDC soles. The IFC and ICC foxing and waffle materials always shredded and wore down faster, they often came horribly misshapen from the factory and felt like garbage the entire time I'd skate them.
Had some sk8 hi's in highschool and I loved them alot. I skated and wore them every day. If you wanna talk about durability, vans skating shoes blow whatever these are out of the water. The comfort and durability is just not the same
@@andy.5332 Lots of product is from Vietnam, China or Indonesia,... But if they want to buy stuff they have to order from EU or US. That a waste of time and cost of delivery, come out of factory but shipped around the world then shipped back, dont you think that is weird and very waste of resources ?
I HATE that pleather crap on the sock liner on regular Vans! Arrrgh. Because of that I usually pay for the Sk8 Hi and Old Skool “Pro” lines just because they have a softer cotton/canvas sock liner instead of that crappy pleather - but! I don’t like how bulkier the Pro lines are in the front of the shoes with the Duracap around the toe box and prefer the more lighter feel of the originals. Can’t win.
Bit of a wierd one but you massively inspire me, you've opened my eyes to so many different leather craft techniques . I know you're probably unlikely to see this but I've just dropped a video where I design and make a minimalist wallet. As a brand new start up, I'd love to hear what a household name like yourself would say about the design/fabrication.
In Jersey, awesome vid. Very good to know. I wish the warp tour comes back. Went to the AC and saw my fav band anti flag. I wear nothing but vans and Adidas. To the Van's family thank you for a a great history and shoe cause it resonates out here. Everyone remembers thier first pair of Van's cause I do. I buy them as gifts cause getting a pair of Van's is a right of passage.
The pro versions have some Duracap reinforcements and are meant to be the more durable versions of the shoes. They are usually $5-$10 more than the classic styles (More in line with the pricing of the comfycush shoes.) Also, most pro shoes have removable Ultracush insoles. (I think all pro shoes have removable insoles, but some may be the "Popcush" like some Rowan pros. I never took the time to figure out what that was lol)
I owned one pair of low top Vans many moons ago. Most shoes I own, if the outside holds up for more then 6 months, the inside will crap out WAY before the outside does. I am big and heavy though, so I put mega abuse on the inside materials. The Vans I had did hold up on the outside really well. The inside shredded up, but overall they were a good pair of shoes. In my situation, already at the 3 minute mark I could tell you the more expensive pair would be worth the money for me, because they put better material where the insides go bad for me, mostly around the heel.
I have and wear tons of Vaults. The rubber lasts way longer on them. I get a good 2 years on them vs Vans that last half a year before the rubber gets holes and the canvas starts tearing.
Sometimes I do wonder that companies say it’s better, but in fact it’s just different and still lower quality. I would love to see videos on substance over style in each shoe section. (I’m waiting got you to try heels ha ha)
I have had multiple pair of pros and regular and on the pros there’s an extra layer of thin rubber in the toe area and that’s where I normally wear them out the fastest
Would be interested in seeing you break down New Rock goth/alt boots. I personally love them and am interested to see how good they actually are, given they're well over 300 Euros.
I think their "pro" line is marketed as the more durable line of their shoes but I don't own a pair so I can't say whether or not they actually are any more durable. I do own a pair of Van Vaults, and they have held up great for me in the past 4+ years. And I am not easy on these shoes. I have walked A LOT in them and it's not 'easy walking,' either. Well above average for any normal person. They are still my go-to dog walking shoes so that is at least 4-5 miles a night, every night, and have been since I got them. All in all, they've stood the test of time for me. I got them almost 5 years ago now and they have yet to break despite my best efforts.
for me it's just preference. i can't go back to regular vans after owning the vault versions. they just FEEL better, not just material wise, but also knowing you're not wearing the average pair you see on everyone else's foot. and i've never liked that black racing stripe on the binding tape. without it the binding tape looks thicker and cleaner.
Hey man I just want to say thank you for the maverick leather company you gave out a while ago. I wasnt sure what to expect going into it but it was good leather thank you again.
Would love to see some of the Vans pro models cut; like the Chima Pros, Berles, Rowans, Gilbert Crocket, etc. or even some of the core line pros, eras, sk8 hi, etc.
If u get the vans pro cush which is the "pro skate" model the outsole separation is not a problem. mine have literally worn through to the insole. Shoe goo to the rescue:)
Hey great video. Van's have an all terrain weather boot. That I paid $99.00 in store yet my feet be cold. I live in Texas for the 2 to 3 weeks of cold weather ,although stylish, not too insulated or waterproof. Interesting to see what the inside is made of. Keep dissecting the bullshit! Love your content.
Just curious. Does the 2-ply canvas seem completely glued together? Like every inch of the canvas? Or just certain areas / edges? I haven't worn Vans in a long time and started wearing them again to ease my way to barefoot shoes (and away from expensive sneakers that I typically bought since times are tough $), or if not barefoot, just Vans. That said, I bought leather Vans. I think the top coating is super thick... Very not breathable. Never had stinky feet until wearing these. I've been wearing Ultraboosts for so many years... So just trying to find some affordable vulcanized sneakers that's breathable. Hoping the canvas isn't just lathered in glue, I can't imagine that being breathable. And I won't be able to find out until I've long passed my ability to return the pair. I'm already $50 down (I guess Im sorta venting my frustration too haha sorry for the rant) Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks! Always find these vids interesting! I love researching stuff
You should cut up some fracaps if you're looking for more leather boots to do. They're handmade in Italy but seem very cheap for what they are, so I'd like to see how the leather quality is
You gotta see the sk8 pros, they have much better rubber on the outsole and an insole that is removable, and really nice (i think its called the pop cush insole)
I used yo have a pair of puma suedes with the (maybe fake) leather liner. Loved them. Got new pairs on Amazon but they did not have the liner. If you can please cut in half a pair of puma suedes.
Can we get a Stan Smith cut in half? That would be super interesting to compare to the other flagship white leather sneakers. Like the Gucci Ace and the Common Projects :D Much love!
@@campkira ive was wondering this Adidas,puma, Nike all respects to all of them about 15 years ago Adidas came out with a range called Vulcan sole trainers and they lasted for years what happened to these,now they all even puma and nike feel so cheep And nasty
VANS PRO TIP: Vans silhouettes typically come in 2 models. Regular and Pro. Regular are the ones you find at a place like Journey's, whereas the Pros are what they sell at skate shops. Made for skating. The differences are about as vast (or more so) as you see here with the Vault shoes. More robust wrapping, higher quality materials, and (my favorite) thick removable insoles. WAY better than the regulars or the Vaults. Vans Pros are the same silhouettes you know, but built for abrasion and more impact.
Try cutting the skate hi pros, they’re meant to used for skating so they’re meant to be more durable. They have more padding, skate insole etc etc. I’d love to watch that because apparently there is a rubber cap in the toe area of the shoe where you slide your foot (Duracap), but I’ve personally never reached it so I’d love to see you cut into it.
Vans made had a premium version of their shoes called OTW, the soles are stitched all around, most are out of boot leather, suede or canvas. id like for you to make a vid on the High top Vans OTW.
Get a premium leather wallet from the Rose Anvil shop here - bit.ly/2YzRlMO
The vault shoes aren't really supposed to be more durable, they're just supposed to be closer to how original vans were made (and looked) . The pros are their more durable shoes.
Precisely!
I used to believe that but mine were dead by one year of usage just like regular Vans. They became really flimsy, as if I was using a very thick sock with a rubber sole. I gotta admit, the sole was nice and very durable but the rest of the shoe was bad or maybe worse than the regular ones.
The only issue I had with the pros was the binding tape cracking, but not to the point it was unwearable. The shoes are still alive and getting used today, 4 years after buying it.
They are not meant to be more durable in the long term they are meant to withstand what skateboarding puts shoes through and the reinforcements aren’t in the sole, it is under the toes and sides of the feet so skaters don’t tear a hole as quickly in the shoes
Marco Mastropietro The soles on the pros are definitely different from the normal Vans. It feels like they have a deeper tread pattern and use a slightly less sticky but more durable rubber. If you take the insole out you can see they don’t have the built in wedge at the back of the normal vans so the footbed is completely flat. They’re also pointier, the arch comes in a bit more so they fit better and the foxing comes nice and high like on the vault ones. It always takes me much longer to wear down the tread under my heel, but that’s probably down to the insole. We need to see him gut a pair in half!
makes a video 10:01 long, but doesnt put any midroll ads in, a real people's man
"A real people's man."
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There is an ad Watchu talkin about Willas?!
GT. Speedin i didnt have any when it was uploaded, he might have edited it
So do creators actually set up timeline and amount of ads?
they just changed it to 8😭
I see an Adidas box in the background. Can't wait for the review of the Stan Smiths
stan smith regular vs recon (limited/premium version)!
Me too!!
Is that all you got from this video?
lmao this dude is just pulling the curtain back on every consumer shoe we have ever purchased. jesus no one is safe our blind consumerism has led us down the path of paying for trash materials and barely upgraded premium models of shoes. keep up the great work!!
It really depends on which vault model I worked at vans and I will only wear vault shoes most of the time you can find them on sale for the same price as regulars and an 8 hour day in regular vans and an 8 hour day in vaults make a huge difference there's also variations he chose just basic vaults the colab ones there's a massive difference in quality you can feel it instantly
nah... vans are still a good shoe for the price.
@@MovieGuy666 I like them bc they're nice looking and cheap enough for popular sneakers. I live in my vans during the summer. My family does lots of gardening (enough to feed a family if 8 with enough seeds left over for next year so BIG garden for 4 ppl to deal with)
I've built our house in my vans, cut and logged wood in them, have chickens, chop wood, do general yard work, box and weightlift in them. And they last me 2-3 years, so for what I put them through I'd say they're good. I just have 2 pairs, the oldest becomes the scapegoat 'work' shoes while the nicer pair is for going out until my 'work' ones get a hole in them and the nice pair becomes the work pair.
I would literally pay money to see a pair of the Defcon Vans cut in half and examined. They are supposedly made with "warrior suede" - some kind of waterproof, oil-resistant, and fire retardant super suede. Plus the highest level of quality control that vans offers. Aside from being complete unobtanium considering they sell out within 10 seconds every time they release a new model, they are really cool styling wise. Some of the sickest footwear on the market as far as I'm concerned. But I've always been curious if any of their claims are legit considering the few pairs I've seen in real life have had some goofy looking imperfections right out of the box.
With the exception of some defcon vans are ugly asf.
There’s only so much suede can do. It’s probably more marketing than anything.
If you are willing to Pay Than send the donor ahoes
I have a set of old ones, they kicked ass and I’m considering getting them restored, unless someone wants to buy them and send them to this channel lol
never had my vans fail like that. They usually fail around toe box where the tape will separate where the foot bends.I heel drag a lot, so even with all the damage the bottom never come off like that.
Ya that's where mine fail too. I had a pair of Authentic go after three weeks there, Era's are a lot more durable.
I really hate how vans midsole easily separate on the toebox foot bending side. That's why I will never buy vault line, there are no different between them except looks. Better to buy pro series, it's cheaper than vault
Yeah same issue here. I got a pair of MTE 3.0 s that showed the exact same issue within a month. Very sad to see this happen to 130€ shoe 😑
Same. The tape becomes unb of unbound from the canvas around the border of the toe box, where the bend is. The tape and the rubber start to crack there.
Ever thought of putting leather jackets to the test?
Would love to see that.
Definitely could be a market in motorcycle jackets as well
He has, he said in another video he wanted to start doing coats and purses and stuff but those designer products are very expensive. He's growing until then.
That could end up being crazy expensive. Leather jackets are always upwards of $1000 each. Besides, what is there to cut in half and discover? They’re already open.
There are plenty of Vault shops that offer free shipping, and you can offer find heavy discounts on Vault stuff. Love my Vault stuff, and the "Pro" line stuff as well.
Which site?
Which site offers free ahipping international?
@@angelomonasterial2943 basically any if you order enough lmfao
I just bought my first vans since I was a youngling. They were on sale and bought them so quick I didn't realize they were some sort of winter vans. Now I have to wait till the fall at least to try them out. They don't have any shiny leather. They have soft plaid cloth where the cheap leather is on the vaults. They're also really thick everywhere. This will definitely be warm for the winter.
oops lol. Yeah, MTE (Mountain edition) shoes would have water-resistant leather or suede uppers, thicker linings, and lug outsole (I usually call it a reverse waffle). They start selling them for the fall and winter and they try to get rid of them now that they are out of season. They may be a little toasty right now, but hopefully they'll work out for you in the future lol.
I wear my MTEs year round no problem, especially the “ballistic” MTE models
footwear designer here, I have a pair of Vans Vault OG Half Cab Lx’s. I haven’t had the outsole start separating from the midsole, although one issue is that the midsole’s outermost tape tends to loosen up over time due to creasing. love this dissection by the way.
i got a pair of chuck 70s cause of u and i love them keep cutting up shit!
Got blisters yet ?
I did the same cause these vids, I love the chuck 70s now
Got my chuck 70s also. Way better then the regular chucks.
i got one too , but i dont like the small toe of 70s & the stripe . When i take it on my hand , it seems beautiful but when on feet them , 70s look worse than classic chuck because of its sihoutte ( just my personal opinion ) , the quality is on point tho
The toe box is too narrow they will ruin your feet long term
I just like how the vaults look and feel more and the suede quality is definitely noticeable between the two
Never owned a pair of the Vault Vans but based on this I’d still opt for the Pro models line of Vans. Those models have the best quality/durability I’ve seen and don’t wear through the heels
Love this channel. You should cut in half some very puffy skate shoes like the DC Lynx OG or an Osiris D3. Those are just a couple of examples, but there are plenty of puffy skate shoes being re-released nowadays.
I second this!
He made a video on the D3s a year ago incase you haven't seen it since this comment is from 3 years ago.
Another suggestion: I'd love to see a breakdown on the Veja leather sneakers - especially as they brand themselves as being more environmentally sustainable
I really enjoy your style of video. No techno intro nor flashing lights. Your introverted style is relaxing.
I've never had a pair of Vans fail at the heel. I always wear mine out at the ball of the foot. Usually the sides split where the foot bends and/or I literally wear a hole through the sole.
I have 2 vault by vans pairs and both opened on the sides just like regular vans, they’re kind of overpriced for what you get, but they’re reallyyy comfy! If you can get them on sale it is worth, the style is even better than regulars!
I’ll add that there are 2 types of Vans vault tiers. There’s the true to the original model (which is the one reviewed here) and another one that is used for collaborations (boutique exclusive colors and other brands). The collab model ranges from $90-120 but is much higher quality than the “regular” vault model.
They've had collabs that went up to $350 retail as well.
I love the Vault's! I have several pairs and would never buy the standard Sk8 Hi's any more. I agree with you-the differences are slight-but well worth it. Especially the leather liner and the more comfortable footbed. I also like them much more aesthetically. They just look like a nicer shoe.
Your channel is one of the only things getting me through this quarantine. I've been going to and from work other than that, and the entire time (and then some) I've been wearing a pair of crevo boots. I've actually had them for about 2 years now, and they haven't given me any problems after months of hard wear. For $95, I'd love to see you cut them in half.
hey maybe next time open some new balance made in the usa like 990 v5 could be fun ;)
Some 574's made in usa vs made in malaysia or china. There are big differences, I can tell you that. Good call there.
On every pair of Vans I've ever owned, the binding tape stuff near the big toe always breaks and separates from the canvas, then on the other side near the pinkie toe. Usually I wear them until the sole on the heel wears through. I sometimes get mild separation of the sole like you mentioned but for me the rubber wears through before that becomes an issue.
They should make aa super pro version where everything is turned up to 11!! All material is twice as tick and better quality, leather is from like a baby walrus, gold shoelace eyelids, superior leather laces, hand mad and signed by Tony Hawk, with a price of like $2,000!! I mean if Belieqnagi or whatever the hell their name is, can sell highheald Crocks for over $600 (yup saw them in personal at Nordstrom!! I though it was just a meme!!) then my super high quality premium idea makes a lot of sense!!
cut up a pair of bass weejuns! I'm curious about the leather quality at its price point
especially as its a heritage brand that produces their product overseas now
Definitely check out the Vans Chima Pro 2.
I've found them to be insanely durable and as someone flat footed who dealt with the pain of Vans w/o inserts... They're WAY more comfortable to boot.
okay i didn’t search for this, but i’m honestly mesmerized
I've got a pair of normal grey vans for like 4 years at least, and since they were quite beaten up and I wanted a flat shoe so it naturally became my workout sneaker. I bought another full white vans and only realised my grey vans were quite dirty. I cleaned it up only to realise how durable they were. Although the mid soles beside my toes were separated and needs to be reglued, but that can be fixed easily.
This is the first video I've ever seen by this guy and I found really interesting. I thought it was satisfying when he was tearing the shoes apart. These videos are cool
Would you consider cutting open hiking boots? I need a new pair and whenever I go shopping, I'm stymied by the prices and would love to know which ones have the best inner construction. Thanks.
I would say the Vault options are not necessarily supposed to be “better”. Big part of the appeal is in the retro design, just as with the Chuck 70s. They position it as a niche product with a more limited demand.
Exactly
@Marc Carran 70s have a different last. And yes, the shoes have some features that perhaps make them better, but in my opinion the main draw of these lines are how they look closer to how original vans/converse looked (and were made).
I believe Chuck 70s first appeared in Japan. The Japanese market is crazy about vintage Americana and wanted something closer to vintage shoes because what they saw in stores didn´t look the same. Levi´s is another great example of this. Japanese first got in touch with Levi´s during the american occupation after WWII and when the brand entered Japan, the stuff just wasn´t the same. Thus was born the Levis Vintage Clothing line and other repro brands. The same thing also happened with Red Wing (Red Wing Heritage line was born in Japan and then Europe, before reaching the USA).
Obviously, all these companies saw potential in what their Japanese divisions were making and decided to implement the strategy globally. Converse 70s are just Converse JP without the Vibram soles. It doesn´t make sense to change the whole look of a shoe that is selling to make them closer to the originals, so we have these retro lines that are premium in construction (a bit) but mostly marketed through storytelling. They are niched at a certain market that´s into the story behind these designs. They are also probably produced in smaller numbers (wich also drives costs up by a bit).
What I´m saying is that even if they had the exact same construction and materials, I wouldn´t call them overpriced because the change in design is also one might want to pay an extra $20 bucks for. The notion of better quality can also be in how something looks!
Liking Toast‘s harness. Is he a professional model?
He is cat
bdsm cat
That's one ugly cat.
@@I_WANT_MY_SLAW you jaelous?
I get a really positive vibe off this guy. Genuine man this is
Suggestion: I would love to see a comparison between Uggs and other brands like Bearpaw! Love your channel!
Good idea
Those are shit
@@ccunit666 then I would like him to tell me why they are shit
I imagine Toaster would be really into that demo, too. 😂
I was searching for this comment. Tell me why I paid $130 for Ugg’s when I could get Bear Paw for $60!!!!
In my personal experience,vault are much more comfortable than the original version(not as comfortable as the pro series,it’s not bouncy,but won’t hurt your feet neither) plus they last longer than the original and never really fall apart like the original tend to. The less durable canvas inside makes the shoes feels nicer on foot. If you’re willing to spend the extra money I will say go for it.
Is there Palladium boots at the back? Would be great to see them cut in half!
Yes, very inrerested too in Palladium boots. For me canvas ones are most interesting high rise and low rise, similar to converse style ones. They have interesting canvas tipe called moleskine.
Do a Golden Goose one. I would love to see the construction of those
I really feel like his channel could blow up big time if he got more into (hype) sneakers.. I started watching him because of the shattered backboards and have been loving the content since!
He has some awesome knowledge about shoes and leather. Imagine combining that with cutting open classic sneakers like Air Force 1’s
I used to wear nothing but Vans, but something happened along the way. In high school back in 1996 I had “Old School Hightops” and they lasted 3 freakin years. As an adult about 10 years ago I got my favorite high school shoe again and they were falling apart in about 3 months with much easier mileage. Vans have turned into crap, and I am not sure what exactly changed, but something definitely did. The binding tape was coming off on the front row box, the sole was peeling off the back as you described, and the canvass was tearing at the stitches on the outside portion of one of the shoes. They were purchased at a Vans store in case that matters to anyone.
2:53 The thong it’s wider because on the regular ones it used to slide either left or right and was really hard to always put it back in the place. Also, the midsole is a little bit longer because the suede on the regular ones used to brake above the big toe.
I find these videos fascinating. Thanks!
I own both the navy and black pair of the Vaults. Heck, most of my collection is situated around them. They're worth every penny, and you can always find certain styles on sale.
This guy is doing the lords work
i have a pair od sk8 hi iwth checkered pattern from the Anaheim collection, and they are very similar to these vault ones. They have to plastic piece on the inside (its called ultra-cush) and a higher foxing tape
I love me some vans vaults! I definitely do like em more than regular vans, thanks for pointing out the differences!
I got the white Vault Oldskools, back in 2017. I wore them everyday almost. The sole has minimal drags, and I only stopped wearing them because, I scratched the side of the sneaker, but other than that, it's still amazing.
I've been a collector, seller, and skater of Vans Syndicate, Vault, Anaheim, General Release, you name it. I've examined them thoroughly. The most important factor for durability comes down to the rubber compounds they use for the waffle and which factory they are produced in. The craftsmanship varies depending on this and you can refer to the 2-3 letter code on the waffle sole. The foxing and overall shape was always great from DT, HF, and ZDC soles. The IFC and ICC foxing and waffle materials always shredded and wore down faster, they often came horribly misshapen from the factory and felt like garbage the entire time I'd skate them.
Hey man, been living the videos! My wife has been watching with me and has asked for an Uggs video lol
Great video as always!! I’d love to see you review the Thursday Boot Company boots
I second this!
Had some sk8 hi's in highschool and I loved them alot. I skated and wore them every day. If you wanna talk about durability, vans skating shoes blow whatever these are out of the water. The comfort and durability is just not the same
I just discovered your channel and I LOVE how thorough you are! So interesting! I subscribed.
Fun fact that: Vietnam made those Vans vault but in Vietnam we couldn't buy those
why is that so?
Ironicate.
at least people in vietnam have a job, dont you think?
We buy it overseas in the Philippines.
@@andy.5332 Lots of product is from Vietnam, China or Indonesia,... But if they want to buy stuff they have to order from EU or US. That a waste of time and cost of delivery, come out of factory but shipped around the world then shipped back, dont you think that is weird and very waste of resources ?
I HATE that pleather crap on the sock liner on regular Vans! Arrrgh. Because of that I usually pay for the Sk8 Hi and Old Skool “Pro” lines just because they have a softer cotton/canvas sock liner instead of that crappy pleather - but! I don’t like how bulkier the Pro lines are in the front of the shoes with the Duracap around the toe box and prefer the more lighter feel of the originals. Can’t win.
Awesome videos. Great insight on what going on in the inside.
Bit of a wierd one but you massively inspire me, you've opened my eyes to so many different leather craft techniques . I know you're probably unlikely to see this but I've just dropped a video where I design and make a minimalist wallet. As a brand new start up, I'd love to hear what a household name like yourself would say about the design/fabrication.
In Jersey, awesome vid. Very good to know. I wish the warp tour comes back. Went to the AC and saw my fav band anti flag. I wear nothing but vans and Adidas. To the Van's family thank you for a a great history and shoe cause it resonates out here. Everyone remembers thier first pair of Van's cause I do. I buy them as gifts cause getting a pair of Van's is a right of passage.
The pro versions have some Duracap reinforcements and are meant to be the more durable versions of the shoes. They are usually $5-$10 more than the classic styles (More in line with the pricing of the comfycush shoes.)
Also, most pro shoes have removable Ultracush insoles. (I think all pro shoes have removable insoles, but some may be the "Popcush" like some Rowan pros. I never took the time to figure out what that was lol)
The small subtle difference in the styling on the vaults make them look so much better imo. Worth it and still cheap compared to boutique Nikes
I owned one pair of low top Vans many moons ago. Most shoes I own, if the outside holds up for more then 6 months, the inside will crap out WAY before the outside does. I am big and heavy though, so I put mega abuse on the inside materials. The Vans I had did hold up on the outside really well. The inside shredded up, but overall they were a good pair of shoes.
In my situation, already at the 3 minute mark I could tell you the more expensive pair would be worth the money for me, because they put better material where the insides go bad for me, mostly around the heel.
I have and wear tons of Vaults. The rubber lasts way longer on them. I get a good 2 years on them vs Vans that last half a year before the rubber gets holes and the canvas starts tearing.
No comments on that cat strap?? ITS ADORABLE!!
Not related to the content. But where did you buy that denim hoodie?
Probably levis
it's volcom
The cutting is ASMR for me lol
that's what we're all here for!! LOL
I'm here for the info
Sometimes I do wonder that companies say it’s better, but in fact it’s just different and still lower quality. I would love to see videos on substance over style in each shoe section. (I’m waiting got you to try heels ha ha)
I saw the vault old skool vans and I loved them because the white is an off white, more vintage look
Lol 😂 I love your cat's little harness
I have had multiple pair of pros and regular and on the pros there’s an extra layer of thin rubber in the toe area and that’s where I normally wear them out the fastest
Would be interested in seeing you break down New Rock goth/alt boots. I personally love them and am interested to see how good they actually are, given they're well over 300 Euros.
I think their "pro" line is marketed as the more durable line of their shoes but I don't own a pair so I can't say whether or not they actually are any more durable. I do own a pair of Van Vaults, and they have held up great for me in the past 4+ years. And I am not easy on these shoes. I have walked A LOT in them and it's not 'easy walking,' either. Well above average for any normal person. They are still my go-to dog walking shoes so that is at least 4-5 miles a night, every night, and have been since I got them. All in all, they've stood the test of time for me. I got them almost 5 years ago now and they have yet to break despite my best efforts.
Wow. mine arrived yesterday. I do hope it holds longer than yours.
for me it's just preference. i can't go back to regular vans after owning the vault versions. they just FEEL better, not just material wise, but also knowing you're not wearing the average pair you see on everyone else's foot. and i've never liked that black racing stripe on the binding tape. without it the binding tape looks thicker and cleaner.
Hey man I just want to say thank you for the maverick leather company you gave out a while ago. I wasnt sure what to expect going into it but it was good leather thank you again.
Would love to see some of the Vans pro models cut; like the Chima Pros, Berles, Rowans, Gilbert Crocket, etc. or even some of the core line pros, eras, sk8 hi, etc.
Would you ever consider cutting open some Off White Vulcs? I’m just curious of what’s inside of those.
If u get the vans pro cush which is the "pro skate" model the outsole separation is not a problem. mine have literally worn through to the insole. Shoe goo to the rescue:)
This is such an awesome channel! With an awesome down to earth dude! 👍
Hey great video. Van's have an all terrain weather boot. That I paid $99.00 in store yet my feet be cold. I live in Texas for the 2 to 3 weeks of cold weather ,although stylish, not too insulated or waterproof. Interesting to see what the inside is made of. Keep dissecting the bullshit! Love your content.
Just curious. Does the 2-ply canvas seem completely glued together? Like every inch of the canvas? Or just certain areas / edges?
I haven't worn Vans in a long time and started wearing them again to ease my way to barefoot shoes (and away from expensive sneakers that I typically bought since times are tough $), or if not barefoot, just Vans. That said, I bought leather Vans. I think the top coating is super thick... Very not breathable. Never had stinky feet until wearing these.
I've been wearing Ultraboosts for so many years... So just trying to find some affordable vulcanized sneakers that's breathable. Hoping the canvas isn't just lathered in glue, I can't imagine that being breathable. And I won't be able to find out until I've long passed my ability to return the pair. I'm already $50 down
(I guess Im sorta venting my frustration too haha sorry for the rant)
Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks! Always find these vids interesting! I love researching stuff
Wow Weston! Great video yet again !
A shoe dissection show finally 👟 🥾
I wonder how long it takes to cut open a shoe with a little knife like that
Those wallets looked class at then end!
I have a pair of Vans Sk8-hi Reissue and they are way more comfortable than the comfycush, they have a removable insole that’s about .75in thick.
You should cut up some fracaps if you're looking for more leather boots to do. They're handmade in Italy but seem very cheap for what they are, so I'd like to see how the leather quality is
I really want that wallet. It looks so cool + I love vans
You gotta see the sk8 pros, they have much better rubber on the outsole and an insole that is removable, and really nice (i think its called the pop cush insole)
hey something off topic.... just bought a new watch.... and am looking for new straps. Perhaps a good idea for Rose Anvil to also make watch straps?
I used yo have a pair of puma suedes with the (maybe fake) leather liner. Loved them. Got new pairs on Amazon but they did not have the liner.
If you can please cut in half a pair of puma suedes.
That was really thorough!!! My oh my! Thanks
Can we get a Stan Smith cut in half? That would be super interesting to compare to the other flagship white leather sneakers. Like the Gucci Ace and the Common Projects :D Much love!
shit fake leather..... both stan smith and superstar.....
he's got one in the background of this video, sitting on the band-saw. I'm sure that video is coming soon.
I think cutting a cloudfoam pair would be more interesting (plus it looks almost exactly like SSs anyways)
@@campkira ive was wondering this Adidas,puma, Nike all respects to all of them about 15 years ago Adidas came out with a range called Vulcan sole trainers and they lasted for years what happened to these,now they all even puma and nike feel so cheep And nasty
What is a Vulcan sole trainers made for because i had a pair of adidas adicolor red superstar and they lasted me age's
I wonder if there is a different on the inside of lowtop and hightop vans I really want to know
As the Chuck 70s, I love the available color ways of Vans Vault, a bit more vintage vibe
VANS PRO TIP: Vans silhouettes typically come in 2 models. Regular and Pro. Regular are the ones you find at a place like Journey's, whereas the Pros are what they sell at skate shops. Made for skating. The differences are about as vast (or more so) as you see here with the Vault shoes. More robust wrapping, higher quality materials, and (my favorite) thick removable insoles. WAY better than the regulars or the Vaults. Vans Pros are the same silhouettes you know, but built for abrasion and more impact.
Try cutting the skate hi pros, they’re meant to used for skating so they’re meant to be more durable. They have more padding, skate insole etc etc. I’d love to watch that because apparently there is a rubber cap in the toe area of the shoe where you slide your foot (Duracap), but I’ve personally never reached it so I’d love to see you cut into it.
My Vans tend to start giving away from the inner side of the heel. Not sure if I should get a .5 bigger size or the way I walk perhaps.
It would be cool to test the various types of vans, like the Ultrarange, Comfycush and the boot style shoes like UltraRange EXO HI.
Vans made had a premium version of their shoes called OTW, the soles are stitched all around, most are out of boot leather, suede or canvas. id like for you to make a vid on the High top Vans OTW.
I wonder if the pro model sk8 Hi's are better than the vault series?
Check out the pro vans, especially the pro bmx shoes or vans with a wafflecup-sole if you want the highest quality/most durable vans
Is that a stan smith at the back? When are you cutting those open? Thanks