Model Railway | In The Spotlight - NEW Bachmann Class 158 | Dean Park 238
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- Опубліковано 20 гру 2019
- NEW FOR 2019 In the Dean Park Spotlight is the NEW Bachmann Class 158. This 00 Gauge model railway dmu has been a long time coming! I put the Bachmann product under the spotlight and test its running and sound capabilities around the Dean Park railway layout. Join me and see what I think of this 2019 model! Is this the BEST model DMU EVER?
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Impressive, being able to couple units together is a big hit for me. Glad to see the modern units getting a decent upgrade. I wonder if we'll see a Voyager done to similar standards in future.
I’d like to think they’ll tackle the voyager and Hornby look at the pendilino as well.
hi richard
I would love to see Bachmann do the the class 220 and the class 221 voyagers in dcc version and a retool on them for say day and night running lighting in the coaches etc and sound fitted versions.
peter from birmingham
What a stunning model this is Dave, we has sets 158822-840 allocated to South Wales, and proved to be a well liked and reliable train....Thanks for the review....Bob
Great review, I see 158/159 class nearly every day a real favourite. Cheers Pete
Wow that really captures it well. This is how I remember them on the Brighton to Wales run after the 155s and 156s came off. I remember when they had the window in the front (now sadly covered by a yellow panel) and of the driver had his blind up you could see out of the front of the train We used to get 158/8 units on the south coast and in more recent years the three car 158/9 version. Mostle with an extra driving car in the middle but there was one proper 3 car unit too. We used to get 159s as well back in NSE and early SWT days.
Hey Dave, Fun fact: There are class 158's in Thailand. But its pretty rare now a days to see one running as some are out of service and I think 2 are left in service. old livery was regional railways livery.
Not sure why people have given this a thumbs down, a hint of jealousy here me thinks😜I thought it was a fair and detailed review. looks like a fantastic model, sound a little quiet though. Thanks for taking the time.
Haymarket 47 Hi, thanks. Oh I don’t care about the negative people. I know roughly who they are, and I feel pity towards them.
DaveClass47 Fair enough, have a great Christmas👍
I get thumbs down on every video I post. Its just some stupid trolls that despise Christmas.
Transport & Simulation Hub I often wonder why they bother, they should try being a little more positive with their lot..
@@Haymarket47 In truth mate, there is a lot of sad people about that like to take it out on others for their own failings in life. They exist to make everyone else miserable but thankfully they are a minority. That said I strongly blame UA-cam and I am pointing the finger at them because UA-cam is the ONLY platform that allows trolls and haters to abuse content creators and the dislike button gives those eggplants the green light to abuse video creators that spend a long time making these videos. I bet this one took Dave about a day minimum to make this upload when factoring the filming, processing and then the upload time. Personally I think the dislike button should be dropped like on other platforms because why it is so important that a viewer has the option to dislike a video. I disliked a lot of TV channels when I had a TV but that was what the remote control was for ;).
I remember class 158 came to Dundee in 1990s when I was a child and I like the livery regional railway and Scotrail with express Italia text mainly run from Edinburgh to Aberdeen via bridges forth and tay. Glasgow to Aberdeen via Perth and Dundee. Nice one
Just found this as I have an older Bachmann 158 converted tp DCC. This looks like a really nice model that I hope to add to my collection one day 🙂
Hi, thanks for watching. The new class 158 is a really impressive model.
I just bought one of these but I also have the older DC version which I want to convert. How easy was it to do?
Well, this just popped up after another video I watched.... I now own one of these! It's one of my favourite models! Amazing detail and sound! 🙂🙂
Ultimately my most favourite DMU ever 😍 and Bachmann have done it proud once again.
Fantastic review 👍
You happened to miss mentioning the door open/door side marker lights, nice added detail from Bachmann 👏
Barnabas Junction cheers. There is a clip with the orange lights ... they are very cool
That was the sound of my childhood there thanks for that. The livery application is brilliant and it seems to run very smoothly indeed
Excellent video Dave. Nice new 158 thanks for sharing
Excellent review once again Dave. The 158 is one of my favourite DMUs and I'm sure I'll pick one up at some point soon. Many thanks.
Great video. Been waiting for this model to come out for months! 👍
Great review & very nice shots of it on your layout, the sound of it accelerating away is very realistic to the real thing. love the night running.
Another brilliant video Dave & again very informative history. Thank you once more for your time and effort on this and every one of these superb videos. Brilliant & well done. All the best & catch you after Hogmanay! Iain
The Bachmann 158 was in desperate need of a retool, it's really nice to see a new model
Excellent review Dave, and a lovely loco. Looks good, sounds good. Cheers John.
Detailing, livery, lighting, sound. What a superb all rounder. Bachmann releases another scorcher. A welcome addition to your fleet, really enjoyed the review Mr Watson. Seasons greetings and a Happy New Year to all, here's to a fantastic new decade of modelling. Wondering now what Dean Park would look like under a decent dusting of snow, ho ho ho... 😁
Great review. They look great. Merry Christmas to you are your family. Have a safe and Happy New Year. Thanks for sharing. Ken
Interesting review. Bachmann has made several revisions to their coupling system. The CEP, the 2EPB and the Desiro have the same drawbars, but the Blue Pullman has a completely different arrangement. This class 158 is a different arrangement again. Makes it difficult if spare parts become unobtainable in the future! Thanks for uploading.
Nice review video, very comprehensive! Perfect for me being 90s era and on the Birmingham to Liverpool route!
Thank you Dave, looks like a fabulous model. Might think about a NSE Class 159 for the future.
Bryan Lane it’s a real beauty :-)
Great review the DMU looks awesome.
I’m going to hang fire and hope Bachmann do one in Arriva Trains Wales livery.
I collected tickets on this very class. This looks amazing!
Rolica Net cool! Yeah it does look the part. :-)
Pleasing to watch a happy review, the night scene 18:06 is quite somethingto watch. Excellent thanks.
Great looking model and great review 👌👍
EXCELLENT review Dave thanks! Now I MUST buy a set for my slowly (ever so slowly) growing British OO-gauge fleet. I wish that Bachmann would sell at least some of their European sets here in the United States for those of us who absolutely love British OO modeling as I do. Good job Dave and Merry Christmas to you and your family and to ALL of you wonderful and inspiring UK modelers!
Cheers from NYC and Orlando Florida (Orlando this time of year 😁😁).
Beautiful model!
Great review must get one next year pete
Good Evening Dave. I just finished viewing the video on Bachmann's new 158 Class DMU. A very nice video and review. I would guess the shops will be out of stock soon as Santa has probably spoken for many of them. Ho Ho Ho. Again I wish you all the best for Happy Holidays and I can't wait for new videos
Loving the review and do love the Class 158 DMUs
Sim0nTrains thanks. It’s a great model
I'd say buy. Very beautiful DMU!!! And if I haven't said it yet: Merry Christmas and a good and healthy 2020 for you and your family Dave! Cheers Onno.
An excellent model, the cab mould doesn;t appear to be an issue as first expected. My only issue is the front emergency air connectin cover (under the drivers window) is post 1998 design so won't have been seen with RR livery (and some had the original cover up to 2012).
Thanks for the review, very informative. I want one....
Have now ordered mine thanks pete
Hermitage Road Hi, great. Hope you enjoy it :-)
Looks a great model indeed
Excellent video dave. 158 10/10
Cheers Dave, nice review. Looks like a good quality model, might have to save some pennies for one of these. Hoping the new 117 will continue to raise the bar on quality when it arrives.
Hi Dave, another great video thank you.
I picked up the 'normal' Regional Railways one a few days ago from my local model shop. I have to agree with everything you've said, I think this is on par with the Realtrack 156 (if not better actually, but it's close!)
£220 is expensive but to me it's worth every penny. Everything about it is absolutely fantastic! It's the best second generation DMU you can buy in my opinion. Even the headlights with that dull yellowy glow are absolutely spot on and just how I remember them.
It's certainly been worth the wait! 😁
PS - if I was forced to nitpick anything, I would say the beige stripes are ever so slightly too dark, but that really is scraping the barrel to find fault.
Here's hoping for an Express variant, and WYPTE too!
Have a good Christmas and all the best for the new year. 🥳
Seamer Model Railway Cheers. I’m glad you agree with my thoughts. I’m hoping for an express one too :-)
Have a great Christmas :-)
My gwr one, is excellent. Great review
I love this 158 review I want the East Midlands trains one shame I can’t couple it to my real track 156 In EMT livery this review helped me decide to get one so thanks Dave
Great video Dave it looks amazing and am considering getting hold of one one day
David's Trains as you can tell... I’m very impressed with it! ;-)
Nice review Dave. Maybe a small segment demonstrating the different lighting functionalities as you've done in other reviews, but a nice video no less. I can tell you're smitten with it, mine has arrived but as it's a Christmas pressie to myself, I'm waiting till Weds to open it up!
As a side note, Bachmann have maybe rightly taken a lot of stick over their release schedule recently, and to an extent lost a little trust and goodwill from UK outline railway modellers, especially with the likes of Accurascale, Cavalex, and ofcourse Hattons producing very fine stock and locos, but I feel with this, the Class 90, and indeed the Ransomes crane and rolling stock such as the Freightliner flats they have proven that they are still a serious force in the market, and are definitely still one of the 'big boys'. The suite of outstanding finescale models available to us right now has arguably never been better, and that can never be a bad thing for us. The wallet maybe!
On the Sprinter front, have you any interest in a Realtrack 156 Dave? I picked a sound fitted super sprinter one up at Warley, and again it's an absolute jewel! Looking forward to seeing them next to each other.
Have a nice Christmas.
S2XTM cheers. I’ll cover more of the lighting later. I did cover the interior and showed the CDL orange lights in this video.
I got a 156 as well. Review to follow.
Have a great festive season :-)
Dave
Hi Dave a fair and informative review and looks and sounds good shame my layout is based in the South East !! Have a great Christmas and New year... Cheers Kev
I would say this but only because I am biased and prefer the class 158. It is one of my favourite units on the mainline
I believe Richard from Road & Rails swapped the default speaker for a Double iPhone Speaker to really bring the sounds to Life. Can't wait for my Class 159 :)
Takes me back to the North Wales coast in the 90s . . .
dilwich i remember seeing these brand new at Waverley in 1990.
This is the one I was thinking of getting. Reckon you've sold it to me ;-) Great review as usual. :-)
They're thumbing down about the fact it costs £350 to buy which is a total rip meanwhile Dave and his UA-cam palls get them for free/discounted.
I totally agree with you about costs. I have had a rant about this myself but you get to watch these movies for FREE. There is also a catalogue of FREE movies you can watch that Dave has posted over the years. I personally benefit from watching all the material that people post on UA-cam about this subject. Ok, they may or may not get freebies or discounts but It would be sad if they all stopped doing this for everyone. :-)
If you read the comments you will see that Dave does not get these review models for free or even discounted He uses his own money and time to make these reviews. Because of that I think they are some of the best If something is not right or poorly finished he will say so
cedarcam He gets paid by UA-cam to make the video so the train is effectively more than free. Its actually making him money. The fact he doesn't mention the price in the video once considering its the most expensive DMU in model railway history says it all.
I have no adds on my channel so cannot say how much they make for him but I did not think it was that much. As far as I know that's the only income he will get Nothing from youtube for making them. As for the price It is a lot to pay for a DMU that although improved is not outstanding enough to justify so much. I would rather have a new Heljan 25 which although less finely detailed will probably be more value for money. My other locos run very smoothly and better than Bachmanns Their 05 shunter is superb The 03 I just got for Xmas is not half as good and cost a lot for what it is.
Fantastic model. Worth waiting for. Diesel units really being taken seriously by manufacturers now.
paul moore Hi, it’s about time too :-) cheers. Dave
Hi Dave, if my memory serves me ok (I am quite old) in the very very early months of WCML privatisation Virgin ran 2 car 158s in RR livery from Edinburgh to Manchester Airport and Liverpool. So you can justify the Lime Street destination blind. The service didn't last long and I'm sure people will know more details. Anway thank you for all you hard work with the videos, Merry Christmas from Manchester and here's to great modelling in 2020.
Excellent model.
Nice review video. 👍
Clearly it’s a very good model, but this video just affirms my belief that there isn’t night and day between the old tooling and the new. I won’t be replacing the 3 units in my fleet (which all together cost me less than a single one of the new ones).
Yes the old model was very good and a smooth runner. This is probably even better but its a question of priority and funds available. After all there's a Bachman 25, Dapol 21/29, Hattons 66 etc to buy too! Quite a lot coming out in the next few months.
@@alanrobertson9790 wouldn't you be better off waiting for Heljan's rat?
I'm considering it after watching your review, useful and informative :-)
Though I'm a bit of a fan of the 158's anyway lol.
Andrew Pedley it’s well worth it, not cheap, butceither us the likes of the Realtrack 156!.
I wouldn’t necessarily opt for the sound if I was to be buying another. It’s ‘ok’ but speaker is not great, as I covered in my review. :-)
Good review Dave and a very nice model. It just needs a driver and a few passengers now and it will finish it off completely. Have a good xmas mate.
Hello Dave, although I am totally ignorant of these wonderful locos and coaches, I always find your reviews interesting. And after getting to know you a little bit, that loco will be getting a speaker upgrade. Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Hi Dave Its me I'm a tree LOL Good review of what looks to be a great model. I have one of the original ones with Scotrail branding which never gets used so doubt I will buy this one unless they do a Scotrail in future. I bought the other with the intention of running 2 time periods as well as a 156 in GGTPA orange black livery. Best wishes for the New Year and looking forward to more reviews like this which are I think some of the best as you give an honest opinion of the models.
Hi Dave, great video as always. I have enjoyed your videos on all the different subjects you have covered.
You mentioned Bachmann releasing a dummy set to go with the powered ones, to keep the costs down. The problem is motors/gears costs a few pounds only and must be only a small part of the development and building costs so I feel an unmotorised version would be pretty much the same price, hence why Bachmann do not do this with other models, class 20s etc
That looks pretty good!!
I have several (6 units) of Bachmann's original 158's and they work brilliantly so I'm unlikely to buy any of these (as good as they are). In fact, I'm more likely to buy other people's cast-offs.
I'd like to get another 3-car set and one of the later batch without the 'Express' branding.
I would like to give them a modification with better lighting and underframe details.
Dave, the 'Scotrail' branding didn't come in until late 1992 and into 1993 (by which time the Scotrail 158's had snowplough skirting) so you may not want to fit that branding, but the 'Express' lettering is available from Railtec transfers.
It'd be a couple of evenings work to remove the numbers and 'Regional Railways' branding, mask off and spray a white section where the 'Express' lettering will go... and then a couple of days later when the paint is dry, fit the Express branding and fit new numbers appropriate for a Scottish 158 (158701 to 158745).
Given how you did the Oxford Mk3's, I think this is within your skillset for this project!
Nice review Dave. I am also thinking one could buy the earlier tooling model and install a Zimo DCC decoder with these sounds pre-loaded eg by Coastal DCC or similar 🤔 And could you poss tell me which is the subsequent video you did going through the lighting functions. Thanks
A class 170 retool in West Midlands Railway livery would be nice- especially 170631 as a 3 car unit.
I agree with Haymarket 47 - why did people vote this down? Not that YT cares - any interaction is good interaction. The sound was a little weak and a speaker upgrade would be a good idea - why don't manufacturers put decent speakers in from new, they cost pence? Dave, I did notice you had it running in the daytime with nightime lights on - naughty boy, particularly when you said they're switchable! Good review as we've come to expect and it's always nice to see the layout. Happy Christmas to you and yours Dave, Mike
I've had a Scotrail Bachman class 158 from about 20 years ago now, obviously older but still runs great, I wonder how it is compared to this newer updated version.
Torn between a 159 or a 158.. maybe I'll have to get both! Might have to upgrade the speaker to really bring the sounds to life.
I agree great review Dave why that person gave you a thumbs down ,all the best and take care
Hi Dave, As a modeller of steam I have to say that it is a very impressive DMU from Bachmann and I can imagine them selling like 'hot cakes'. I agree with Haymarket 47 about the negative dipsticks who give a thumbs down. You can take heart in the fact that the thumbs up far out way the negative idiots. As a steam buff I can recognise quality when I see it, be it diesel or steam. This model ticks all the right boxes and I`m more that happy to give it the thumbs up. Cheers Greg
Sadly you are right. Merry Christmas to you Iain
Hi Greg. Thank you for your great honest feedback. It’s certainly selling well, the shop I got it from (I’d pre ordered some years ago!) has sold all of its initial allocation within the first day!
Regarding the ‘dipsticks’ (I love that phrase, I’ve not used that for years, so might start using it again haha), you always get people who don’t watch the video but instantly give it a negative response. However they’re doing me a favour, as UA-cam tallies up likes and dislikes and the more a video gets (of either) the more youtube promotes my video. So the joke’s on them. I am sure I know who some of them are as well. It’s just a bit of jealousy from those individuals (I don’t know why), but it’s fine by me!
Greg, have yourself a great Christmas with your friends and loved ones and thank you again for your continued support of what I do. It is genuinely and greatly appreciated. Cheers. Dave
Bachmann should make a ‘Transport For Wales’ livery version.
Great review there Dave. I think I am tempted to get a nice GWR version or an EMT version that operate around Nottingham where I used to live for a few years. I now live in a place that is dominated by CAF DMU's mate but they are lovely trains to ride on. Here is a like from me and thanks for this videos because I am getting one in the new year :). Just a question about the functioning BSI couplers. I wonder if Bachmann will sell these are spares? As I would like to add them to the Bachmann Class 150 and the Hornby Class 153 and maybe the Realtrack Class 156. This would allow me to make some realistic formations. Not sure if Scotland has any Class 153's there but we had them on the Nottingham to Skegness workings with Class 156/158 units coupled to them.
Looks to be a good model, nice close coupling. A note about the dummy set you are requesting - I doubt Bachmann would look at it. Rapido touched on doing dummy locos for one of their H0 releases (cabbage car), which in prototypical sense is a locomotive with the engine removed. They made the model with a motor, because all they would save by not including it was around $5 per model, so I would assume the same case would apply here.
Kyle Baldwin hi that’s very interesting. Thanks. Dave
Enjoyable viewing
A lovely review Dave! Might have to get one myself methinks as I model an era similar to yours. With regards to the layout though, have you ever thought on adding a second station on the upper line. With enough room for a Scotrail push-pull set and call it Dean Parkway?
Matthew Howe Cheers. I’ve no room for another station sadly :-(
DaveClass47 Ah that’s a shame :-(. I’m sure whatever goes in that spot though will look stunning :-)
Brill Video! I’m not sure why I missed this when it was released… What are the lights you use in the Station?? Thanks a mil!
Traintastic Trains Hi, the platform lights? They are dcc concepts. But now sold under Gaugemaster brand. Cheers.
Does it mean the digital sound version still needs to fit decoder seperately? Shouldn't the decoder pre-fitted with speaker?
An excellent review, thanks for posting. The 158 sounds great and the running looks nice and smooth. However.....to my eye the beige colour is wrong. Much too dark. In this respect I think the original Bachmann 158 was more accurate. Because of that, I will be hanging on to my existing two units. It's a shame because I was looking forward to upgrading them.
Coupling on Bachmann Class 158 is something like Bachmann Windhoff M.P.V.
Hey mate. Hope Christmas went well. I just order this in a network southeast revised livery. I bought the non DCC one. Do you know if it has interior lights? It wasn’t clear in the blurb. Have a great new year, Jason.
Hi, yes all Bachmann class 158 have interior lights.
@@DeanPark great news. Thanks.
Thanks for the review Dave.... Looks a lovely model.... shame they have penny pinched on the speaker... I just wish Bachmann/Hornby sourced decent quality speakers, the difference in price for a manufacturer between basic/decent speakers must be pretty small.
Hi dave great looking model mate I have two of the old class 158s in my fleet but the new one is looks great. I got my hattons class66 loco today I am over the moon with it is the BR blue /grey / yellow / black livery one it is a great runner I am ever pleased with it are you going to get a dc kits class156 dmu ? Mate
A fantastic model but at just over £200 I’ll stick to my old Bachmann 158.
Not my era but very impressive, it looks like a Zimo sound chip setup. Do you know what chip and you's sound file it is. Good review.
hi dave
just a quick question which one out of the Bachmann class 158 and the realtrack class 156 do you prefer and if you didn't have either which one would you go for personally for your layout.
and what is your overall thought on the Bachmann class 158.
peter from birmingham
southway1943 the 158 without hesitation. Brilliant fit, finish and smooth quiet motor. It’s a cut above the rest!
if needed maybe able to get it re-branded in the future, they are impressive, but i still dont think i could spend the money on them if i still had 00, the one thing i dont like is the guards buzzer, inless your, stood right next to the drivers window or on the train near the cab then you wouldn't hear it, wonder how long till we have models with opening doors
Haha, silent. Unlike the 158s in real life, looks really good, a lot of detail
Excellent review and excellent model. For me personally they don't fit my requirements currently and the price is difficult to justify unless it was must have for my layout plan.
On the point of dummy units, they're unlikely to be done as apparently they are difficult sellers and the cost to produce wouldn't be much different from a motored one as most of the cost is in the livery and small details, the motor being a very small part of the overall cost. So I don't think we'll ever see dummy 4mm units.
Looks a great model but what was the guideline price of this model as i dont think i heard one.
Stephen Spinks You're right, he never mentioned it despite it being the most expensive DMU in model railway history. Money is obviously not an issue for him.
i need one in GWR see what sants sends
Dave. Looks really great but my eyes are drawn to the large black borders around the doors. Do they look realistic to you? To me they don't but I've never seen this livery before.
Is it possible to reduce the coupling distance between the coaches so the corridors are close to touching? Or does the electrical connection built in prohibit this? Thanks
The connector prevents this.
@@DeanPark so either leave as is or use one of those corridor connector cards?
Now to go in overdraft
Milo T.K I regularly go into mine :-)
Can we add coaches to this model? , if yes then which ones can be a good fit for these trains
They ran as fixed two car units. No additional coaches can be added.
Nice to see Bachmann are using Zimmo sound chips. Far superior in my oppion. I think function 2 active brake is superb and the overall driving experience second to none. Does need a speaker upgrade though. I think the sound chip accurate that if won't let you pull away if the doors are open, as in you've not pressed the function for doors closing after opening them. As in the real thing.
Huntsheath Model Railway ESU chips have this function too.
Great review Dave. To say it's a few years late it just does not look right,and I think it could be more detailed. I remember many years ago when I purchased a 3 car 158,and at the time it was light years ahead of any DMU.........it made the hornby 156 look very cheap and nasty. There looks to be improvements over the old 158 but I think I will stick to my original 158s.
Dave will them bodies fit the older bachmann 158 please i found the bodies on bachmanns website but dont know if they will fit the older version please help thank you !
I’m not 100% sure. I think due to the improvements in the circuit board, where the motor is, etc etc…I’d say no.
Looks really nice although I’m not a fan the driver end window, look at that! So annoying!
British Rail got it right with the 158s and 159s. Far, far better than Pretendilinos and everything from the privatisation era... speaking as a passenger.
Did they come in 3cars and 2cars
Matthew Stamp i think I’m right in saying the three cars were the 159’s.
DaveClass47 3 cars was arrive. Transpennine
I love it but over £300 is absolutely absurd money I'd rather get the old Bachmann 158
Too modern for my layout but an impressive DMU nevertheless.
Good review . Thanks for that. It looks like a great model , but for someone still using analogue I don’t see it as a great advance over existing one . Sorry just too expensive. Bachmann are not going to make an unpowered set, they’ll expect you to pay full price for another motorised one
Yet another frustrating Bachmann hit and miss issue. I received my unit from a reputable retailer only to find that the bogie makes contact with the underside detail and derails on 4th radius curves and Peco points. I really don't see why I should have to file down or snap off underside detail from a brand new release. Come on Bachmann!! It's getting to the point now where I am going to stop buying their products. :-(
MARK MCLELLAN contact them straight away! Also, take it back to your shop and get a replacement. If it’s faulty as you think it is you’ve consumer rights. It should be right, this sounds extremely frustrating for you.
Dave
Thanks Dave, I have already emailed them. I have bought from the retailer before and they are pretty good. My gripe is with Bachmann again and not yourself. Just want to make that clear. Mark :-)
MARK MCLELLAN who was the retailer?
Sorry, I don't wan't to bring the retailer into this. As far as I can see it's a production flaw. :-)
MARK MCLELLAN That's fair enough. I know how frustrating it can be when one is excited about a new model only for it to have issues. Good luck on getting it sorted. :-)