What an EPIC Garlic Harvest!
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My husband used to manage garlic production on an organic farm that sold garlic in a seed catalog. Your garlic doesn't look quite ready to harvest - another 2-3 weeks and you'd have larger heads.
Also not a great idea to just pull it out of the ground. Digging with a trowel or hand fork underneath and lifting poses much less risk of damage to the protective paper on the bulb. If you damage the paper covering, the bulb is not going to store well, especially with hardnecks. Same thing with washing. We never washed garlic on the farm - just bunched in 10s and hung in a dry barn with a fan pointed at it.
Finally, softneck actually stores longer than hardneck, though it may seem counterintuitive. The garlic in most grocery stores is softneck because it lasts longer, but hardneck generally has superior/more intense flavor and the bonus of scapes.
My favorite way to use garlic is roasting it. Do you have recommendations for varieties that produce the best, most flavorful roasted garlic?
I rinsed mine off after harvest last year and hung it to dry inside my garage - very hot and dry. It didn't adversely affect it. I also roasted 90% of it in the paper whole and then froze the whole roasted garlic. Still using it a year later and it's fantastic.
Thank you!!! I cringed when he washed and trimmed
I never wash it, I let it cure for a couple weeks, on a screen in my garage. Then I clean them up.
I think his garlic was ready by looking at the leaves and scapes, you can harvest the garlic about a week or two after scapes show up but if you wait longer your garlic won't grow bigger instead the cloves might split. His spring garlic bulbs are small and that's normal. I had some garlic cloves in the fridge for two months then planted them in March, harvested two weeks ago, the bulbs are smaller than my fall garlic. Some of his fall garlic is small but I'm wondering if it was because of the smoky/cloudy sky where he lives, it does affect the growth of plants. But definitely his garlic was ready to pull out.
You can wash your garlic, just need to make sure they dry properly afterwards. I've seen ppl washing their garlic, one Ytuber (@MidwestGardener) did this. I had 55 garlic plants on a bed, pulled them out a month ago not knowing it would rain that nigh, and all day next day, and I left the garlic on the bed to dry... So the rain washed all the garlic. On next two days I let them dry in the sun, third day I cut the roots and stems like what Luke did, except I left the stems on longer about 5 inches, and let them dry in the sun for a few more hours. After that they they've been on a rack in the house for curing. We'll see how they turn out but so far so good. Just thought maybe I could share this with you. Happy gardening. Cheers!
I find that the skins can split away from the heads if i trim before drying. I dry whole, no washing for a few weeks, then i trim the roots (i think the tops are pretty) and rub off one layer of paper to remove the dirt, then hang to dry again for another week before using.
actually that's the right way to do it.
I'm giving my garlic another week to 10 days before harvesting. First time growing garlic and dont want to pull them too early.
Good thinking. If you have enough you could always pull just one to use for cooking now, and see how they're doing. It pays not to be too impatient though unless around harvest time it's going to be tons of rain, then they're not going to be happy and productive.
SAME - I’m in Michigan, same vicinity as Luke - we’ve had a lot of rain, I want to let things dry out, also you’re supposed to wait until 50% of the leaves have yellowed/browned and I’m not there yet - waiting! Also, not washing or trimming until 2-3 weeks after harvest - and even then, no water!
Two years ago I planted German Extra Hardy here in Buffalo along with Dunganski which was the garlic I grew. Last fall I only planted the German Extra Hardy and the Dunganski went to the wayside. The extra hardy has nice huge bulbs and cloves. They store fantastic. Last fall I planted the largest, nicest bulbs and am getting ready to harvest. Being in the city I have to pick and choose the best for my needs, you can't go wrong with this one.
I grew hard neck garlic for the first time and with great success. I planted 125 cloves in first week in November and covered with straw and plastic. We had the most brutal snow, at least 7 feet on that garden bed and e when things finally started to thaw, I uncovered my garlic and they grew beautifully at least 3 feet tall. I’m getting slates now and pulled 6 to see my garlic revealed and they are beautiful. I was going to harvest first week in August the rest. Thank you for your content and expertise.
I try to wait til soil dry then harvest and leave alone till dried out and stalks yellow then clip
Mine was early too I harvest last week 116 heads
I don’t know, but for me your garlic looks like it is not ready yet, another 4 weeks maybe.
Luke, do you have any beef with any of the other gardening channels? They’re all very supportive of one another, coop videos, plugging each others stuff etc. you don’t seem to part of the community. Did something happen?
I saw a vid you did with that crazy Amish cosplay guy a while ago but that’s about it. Did that blowback because of his QAnon views?
😂 that guys a lunatic. Full on bigot. You’re talking about Doug I guess? I can’t imagine Luke’s affiliated.
@@TedioreZane😂lunatic😂 you’re not wrong 🌈 ❤ ✌️
Everything i read and farmers ive talked to have said softneck last longer because of tthe tight bulbs and never wash or trim till curing is done.
Epic?? Those are PUNY.
Luke, how do I join the wait list to get seed garlic??
For best details on growing harvest and curing I go by Filaree farms. They suggest one solid loop then pick.
What do you mean by one solid loop, then pick? Are you referring to the scapes?
This is the exact opposite of how I've learned to harvest and cure garlic 😬. Never wash the dirt off with water or cut the stems and roots before curing!
I belive garlic is early this year because of high heat and drought
Sorry dude., not the right method for harvesting and storing garlic. 😶😑🫤
Definitely don't want to water before you harvest, pull on the stem to harvest (use broadfork to dig them), wash them with water post harvest, cut the roots or the stems and leaves post harvest. You want to just remove from ground shake off roots and air dry for a week minimum. Then cut off roots and stalk after a the stem has fully dried, and remove 1 layer of skin. It'll look way better, store longer, and be less susceptible to rot and disease from the cure. Also want to be very gentle with the bulbs as you harvest. Any bruising will cause rotting (clanging your bulb on side of bed hurt my soul lol)
Just some humble tips from a guy growing it commercially for 8 years.
Good words my friend. Stop watering a couple weeks before harvest, no wash or trim either end. I hang them in bundles of 5 or 6 depending on size, and let them dry in a warm shaded spot. I use my covered front porch. I can get up to 12 months on some varieties. And contrary to what Luke says, softnecks store longer than hardnecks since they in general have thicker clove wrappers.
Thank you both for adding these comments. I was beginning to question what I have been doing with my harvested garlic. I’ve been growing it for 4 years now and each year so far has been better than the previous year. Thanks again for the information from experience, I appreciate it.
I have a question. Could you please tell me if it ok to leave until it is entirely dry or should I be harvesting one at a time when the bottom 4 leaves are dried out? Mine are at different stages and I want to harvest one time. Thank you for your knowledge and willingness to share!
@@tamit2392 Harvest when 4-6 semi-green leaves remain, but you can dig around the bulb to see if cloves are well formed. Each leaf represents a layer of wrapper on the bulb so if you wait until all are dry the garlic won't cure and keep well.
Each type and variety dies back at a different rate, as well as has more or less leaves.
What?!🤷♀️ Washing and trimming garlic immediately after harvest??😮 I pray God has a plan to make that garlic be able to stay fresh for the full 6 - 8 months. 🙏
Here in the high desert of CA I grow softneck garlic. They store nicely for a year. I just harvested this year's garlic and I still have some of last year's in the cupboard. When I harvest it I do not cut it up like you do, instead I just put it on a shelf on the North side of the house until it dries. Once it dries, I brush off the dirt and then cut off the roots and top. They store nicely and are delicious.
Noob here--just planted Costco (from Gilroy, CA) garlic in October and recently harvested around 5 lbs from 4X4 ft plot, most bulbs 2.5X larger than seed bulbs. Apparently hard neck.
(farther N. Commifornia, low inland, zone 9a)
Thanks for tips.
Examples in vid are *tiny,* dunno how those can be called 'epic', looks like epic fail to ME. 😄
The way you do it is the same way I've always cured my own garlic.
What varieties do you plant?
Love your videos But your Garlic is not ready for harvest. I run a Garlic farm.
Can you do a new garlic growing video from start to finish to include fertilizers and time to plant and harvest. Thank you so much Luke keep up the great work.⭕️❌🙏🏽♥️
I think it needed to stay in the ground about 3 more weeks luke
I would agree with other posters. You definitely do not want to water before you pull the garlic or wash the garlic. The variety "MUSIC" is a great producer. It is a hard neck variety. Yields nice size bulbs and cloves, longer shelf life, and great taste. Love your VLOGS.🥰
I'm confused, most gardeners say to only trim the garlic AFTER they have cured/dried out....
Most gardeners also don’t wash the garlic, they leave it dirty until it’s cured as well. This method is making me nervous…
@@Markephillips77 Agreed! Adding water may breed mold.
Yup, and they were saying that soft neck store longer....
Ummm, never heard of washing and especially not cutting off roots and stems until dried. I believe keeping it intact has something to do with flavor. It’s up to you. Lol, my husband didn’t know last year and he cut the root end off like cleaning an onion to eat😂😂. Good thing is was a small crop.
I’ve cut stems and roots in the past and never had an issue with long term storage. I’ve also washed right after harvesting without issue, but I only washed if the sun was out and the bulbs could be dried that day. My only contention with the video was suggesting to water before harvesting. Dry soil brushed off so easily, and would negate the need to wash. I’m totally thumbs down on that suggestion. If your soil is that hard, use a trowel to loosen the soil and assist pulling it up.
I don’t know, Luke. In the past you’ve said not to wash the garlic when you harvest it but instead to just brush off the big clumps of dirt. How many years have you been using this method to cure the garlic? What have you seen compared to previous years where you didn’t use this method?
Both will work great. I said with potatoes and onions to not wash them off, and that holds true. With garlic either or is fine. I just prefer if they are really muddy to wash the dirt off.
@@MIgardener thank you! I was really confused.
@@MIgardener are you sure? You didnt actually answer their question regarding past experience. Also you got hardneck and softneck backwards when you were talking about longevity/shelf life. Should you really keep this video up?
I've seen and read a lot about garlic and they seem to be counter to two things you say: 1) pull garlic, wipe of most dirt and dry, do NOT wash; 2) softneck varieties will have a longer shelf life than hardneck varieties.
I was wondering about this also.
Same here.
Absolutely right, don't wash or trim and softnecks store longest on average. Some hardnecks will store long but they are more the exception.
3} Don't trim off stalks or roots until garlic has sufficiently dried/cured.
Same here
Me too Luke! Just harvested my garlic this morning (July 3rd) and the bulbs were the size of my palm. First time growing so I'm glad you posted this today. Wish I could load up a picture. They were huge!
Sorry to be contradictive, but it's much better not to wash the garlic and trim them right away. It does nothing beneficial for the garlic and only makes it look pretty. I use a trowel to help loosen them to pull out then peel back one thin layer of paper and the bulb is virgin white-very cool looking. Then bunch up some but not too tight so air flow can get in there and hang them to dry and cure in a covered area, usually 2-3 weeks at least. The green stalks will turn all brown and then you know they're ready to trim. I leave three inches or so and then let that cut area dry further, maybe another week or so. Washing them right away and wetting the ground before pulling just adds too much unnecessary moisture. If they've been in the ground 8-9 months for Fall planted, rushing the process at the very end at harvest time isn't the best course of action. Be kind to your garlic at harvest time.
Correct. The drier you can get and keep the paper wraps, the longer they will
keep. We just used our last bulb from last year 3 weeks ago. 10 months in
storage.
Garlic is ready after first 4-5 leaves dried up. Lay on wire in shady airy place or tie in bundles and hang without trimming. Same with onions.
Softneck garlic lasts massively longer than hardneck like 18 months for Nootka Rose is not uncommon. Hardneck is like 3-6 months and Rocambole is like 3 months. Softneck produces more individual cloves as well and is the best garlic for cooking as you get more cloves per bulb. Hardneck might have a slightly stronger flavor but is more of a baking garlic and more of a garlic powder garlic.
Hi Luke. What timing! I just came back inside from harvesting the last of my onions, shallots, and elephant garlic! A total of 50# yellow and red onions, 10# shallots, and 15# total garlic. Garlic was not the winner but i have cloves to start again. One of the best things about bolting onions are the seeds! I may never have to buy seeds or bulbs again!😂
Happy Harvests to All!❤🥗💚💛❤
Lol I like the small dig at epic gardens after that failed harvest they had but I love both y'all u don't just show the wins cause there is a lot of failures in the garden no matter who u are
Dude. You got the hardneck and the softneck backwards as far as shelf life. Softnecks last longer once cured.
This title feels like you're trolling Kevin Espiritu/Epic Gardening who just posted a video about his worst garlic crop ever 🤣
That's what I thought too. Shots fired.
@@fudroysmith7948lol garden gangstas
lolllll😂😂
I haven’t seen it. This was definitely ironic but I am sure he has had great harvests where we have had stuff fall short. That’s gardening for you :)
Great video Luke. I'm harvesting garlic that my son planted....10 years ago out back and forgot!!( we're in the country) I only stumbled upon while mowing and suddenly smelling garlic!! Talk about a fun surprise!!
Ok, I"M CONFUSED! I just watched a video you made a few years ago, with your daughter in it, helping you and you said DON'T WASH OFF YOUR BULBS... and in this video, YOU ARE WASHING OFF YOUR BULBS. Which is it? Wash them off or don't wash them off?
I am cheap. I just purchased two bulbs of enormous non-elephant garlic that looks nearly that big. Gilroy soft type from the supermarket. Sixty-nine cents a bulb. Hoping to put it into the garden in a couple of months for next season. I over-winter garlic annually here in the Mohave Desert, Zone 8B at 3,000' elevation. Have had medium to small bulbs but usually use med. bulbs not in the range of the size I just purchased.
3:13 Dude, that's an egyptian walking onion or a bunching onion of some sort. It looked like hollow tubes. And what do you mean "Garlic will sometimes do that." ? No, it doesn't. That was clearly an onion of some sort.
Don’t throw garlic scapes away! They are delicious. Hardneck onions produce scapes too. Eat them!
I have two supposed soft neck garlic that are producing scapes? From store bought white garlic. I planted them because they were going to go bad if I didn’t use them. Any clue why they are producing scapes like my hard neck?
Hey Luke!! We got garlic from you 3 years back. We're still using those same cloves and had a very nice harvest this year. I do have a question though. We've never watered prior to harvest or rinsed prior to drying. Is this something new? Thanks for the video!!
Lucky you! The last batch of garlic I got had mold on it. I planted what I could save then ended up with an allium virus in my garden. Lost almost 200 heads of garlic.
I wait till dry weather to harvest my garlic and I definitely don't wash it or cut the stems or the roots until they are cured and dry.
@@mickilicyes5399 that's what we do too. This was so different.
First time growing garlic. I bought extra hardy German. I was a bit late getting them in the ground in November but I followed your planting video as best I could. My soil is mostly clay. The cloves were not as small as I find in grocery stores but not terribly large either. They sprouted shoots and I covered them with old hay for the winter. I dug them about a week ago and found 3+" bulbs. Beginner's luck?
Harvested my soft necks July 2. Zone 8b west side of Oregon.
Planted Oct 1. Big bulbs. Hanging in shop, no lights. When dried I cut off roots like Luke. Then cut stems off leaving 2-3 inches.
North Alabama zone 7B. We hang the garlic in bunches until no green in stalks and then cut stalks and roots. We never rinse the garlic off prior to curing.
Hey, I think you're picking early. The garlic hasn't grown yet.
Mine is ready early too. Did you guys have a freakishly warm winter? We barely had anything resembling winter up here in the northeast zone 5 and I can’t help but wonder if the garlic was growing on and off in the winter that’s why it’s ready so early this year.
I think this video is mis-titled 🤔
I was thinking the same thing. I was so excited too. Not that this wasn't awesome, but...
yes, you are right! i just finished watching, refreshed, and title has been corrected. 🎉
@@gardenercarl1197yea wasn't it supposed to be something about a microscopic bug?
I grew Music. I was happy with my harvest but u needed to learn how to clean and store them. Ty
I just dug mine. SE Minnesota I watered my plants and they came out big. We usually have about the same size. This year may have overwhelmed your core system.
Wow a lot of know it alls and straight up jerks in these comments.
The gardening community used to be nice. I've actually blocked some channels because the fans were so toxic.
Relax folks, its just gardening.
One comment reader to another, yes, some weren't as tactful as possible.
However, most of the negative remarks were, in regard to the demonstration
on how to preserve/cure garlic for storage, uummm, properly? and prettily?
I mean no disrespect to you, and I'm no expert, but knowing what I know, from
experience, is this was the best example of doing it wrong and surefire path
to failure.
What disappoints me the most is if just 1% of the 32k viewers are newbies
and grow/harvest/cure this way, 320 people may never try again. And way more than 1% said HUH?
That's sad.188 comments/questions, 4 replies.
"It's just gardening" ?? Most of us that do garden, don't just garden, and none of
us that do garden, garden to fail. Again, no disrespect. Good Luck
I’ve heard on other channels that soft neck actually stores longer?
I did see where to get on the garlic wait list, did you mean wishlist?
Softneck garlic lasts a ot longer than hardneck. I think you misspoke. Unless things have changed dramatically in the last year, you are supposed to dry the entire garlic plant before trimming. Also, they should be dug from dry soil and not knocked around because they bruise easily. Finally, yours don't seem to have the dead bottom three leaves that indicate they are ready to harvest. You probably could have left them in the ground for more time. I've been growing garlic for over 20 years in Wisconsin and these comments are based on study and experience.
THANK YOU!
Can you grow elephant garlic in Michigan? I am in the Deep South and regular garlic is sometimes a hit or a mess. (Yes I know elephant garlic is not a "real" garlic.)
First year growing garlic. I planted a hardneck variety on Halloween and I'll be harvesting on the 4th of July 😀 Your video was very helpful on harvesting, cleaning and storing.
Question for anyone who has an answer! I’m also located in MI like MIgardener is and I know that you need to plant garlic in the fall to be able to harvest in mid summer. Is there any other crops that need to be planted this way as well?
I'm also in MI and planted shallots along with the garlic last October. Nice harvest on both in early July.
This is my second year having garlic in the garden all because I was given a garlic bulb so I decided to break it up and plant it. Happy I did that since now I have even more to select from.
I love big cloves, so I got Montana Giant.
I grew a hard neck garlic called music. I don't think it's ready yet, but pretty soon. The bottom leaves are just starting to die back. God bless
LOL the gardening community is shook at that shade to Kevin😂 too funny. Great garlic!
I noticed that, too! I am grateful for both the MI and Epic gardening channels and have learned so much from both of you. I buy my seeds and fertilizer from you and love the Epic pots to start them in.
"That said"- that sly little shade you threw made me giggle loud enough that both my kids were curious what was so funny.😂
I have store bought bulbs that have lasted almost over a year now. So it can last more then 5 months
Strong flavored garlic will last longer than the mild garlic by far.
I still have some of my 2022 harvest. It’s more about the variety than being a professional garlic grower or storing it under optimal conditions.
Planting garlic
Harvested scapes last week - YUM! Not ready to dig out the bulbs quite yet, here in Ontario.
Southern Ontario here. This is my first year growing garlic, and they're pretty much ready to harvest. I planted on Halloween
@@barefootinthegarden Just north of Newmarket here. I planted in early November, as an experiment. First time, as well! Turned out VERY promising! I'll still wait a couple of weeks before digging the bulbs, but the scapes were delicious!
I'm in Oshawa Ontario. This is my second year growing garlic and mine shots be ready to harvest in about 2 weeks. Luke's didn't look as brown (not many dead leaves) as I think it should be. I had a fantastic first year's harvest last year and used all my own garlic to plant for this year. I'm excited to see how they've grown!
Also, my garlic lasted all the way to June!!
@@kathywest7380 I think Luke mentioned that he was harvesting early. Mine have only one brown leaf at the base, and I think another couple of weeks will allow the bulbs to grow a little more. Happy gardening!
Can you share more how you only watered twice all season? That’s impressive
He has older videos on what is called "core gardening" they bury straw bales in the middle to hold water longer
I finally dug up some of my garlic that I honestly don't know how many years ago it was planted. Lots of overcrowded mono bulbs. 😆 🤣
May i ask if this method is an update from your earlier video...about 2019...your daughter was very young in the video with you. Thats the method i have been using thus far. Is this the better way?
I store my garlic in thick brown paper bags rolled down. I bundle the varieties not too many in one bag not near a vent or sun. In my bedroom because it’s the best temperature controlled room in my house. This year I grew 345-400 cloves. I share with family and friends. I’ve decided to only grow Hardneck and they last like that 5-8 months, it depends on the humidity. I do check them and peel and freeze in a double ziplock if the are starting to sprout or dry out.
Can you use the garlic leaves for anything?
Of course! Add them in salads or use in soups and stews. The green parts, not the yellowed ones.
Wetting the soil before harvest; Would that work with lemongrass too? I find lemongrass notoriously difficult to harvest!
Crazy comments on Epic. If you watch these videos he mentioned pulling his garlic last week.
Planted store bought softneck last year and this year had a great harvest! I’m in zone 8A just east of ATL.
My spring garlic just threw one or 2 leaves and they flopped. A lot didnt come out even with roots on them:/
Some of my garlic formed bulbs up the stalk itself! Is this common?
Is fall the best time to plant garlic cloves in our zone in your opinion? Do you keep them outside even through the winter?
First year for me , I planted Music Hardneck , I will pull them in a few days . Thanks for all the info
Why wash it right away? Your previous videos say dont wash or trim until they have dried out?
I enjoy your channel and I am so appreciative of the wisdom you have and willingness to share with others. Thank you to good wife weaver for your additional comments and wisdom
Good. I thought I was late over here in WI. I think i have another week or so on my hard necks. I harvested my soft necks last week. And I harvested my first cherry tomatoes. And here I was told NOT to wash my garlic and to leave the leaves on for 3ish weeks.
Just harvested my garlic 56 large heads. The stocks are all dried but not all the way in the stem close to the garlic head. Is that okay? Hope that makes sense. Thanks Luke for all you do!!!!
I definitely want to get some garlic from you!
Lol is that a friendly dig at Epic Gardening?😂
hey Luke, i purchased some centiflors and tommytoes before, i ordered a bigger order of stuff afterwards but i wated some advice, could you possibly make a video or short on how to handle tomatoes in intense sunlight? (et. High UV Scale, not actually hot), diseases, etc, i noticed the seedlings turned grey after transplant and died; i wanna grow a bountifoul flora of tomatoes, also heres a idea, at the beginning of every video, pick something from the garden your craving and eat it (things you can eat raw ofcourse) and describe its taste and why you reccomend it, any seed it doesnt have to be related!, thanks for your effeciency and good gardening
How long after picking scapes till the garlic is ready to harvest.
Maybe next thing I try because of your videos!
Here in Berkley Michigan my garlic also came in early
Nice haul is there a video on spring garlic?
Just finished processing garlic here in MI as well. Was surprised when I pulled a head up and it was done.
Hi Luke!! Thank you for all that you do!! I was wondering if you have or can do a video on core gardening?
Wow only 3 weeks that is impressive.
You and epic gardens he had a bad harvest of garlic
Zone 7+ in BC, just harvested this morning. Planted Porcelain cloves in November, stopped watering June 1st. I tend to wait for the bottom 3 or 4 leave nodes to have dried completely to harvest. I'll leave them on a rack in the shade during sunny days, and bring them up on the porch at night, although this year it's so dry there is no dew in the morning. A week or two of that then cut the roots off to 1cm and stem to about 25cm. Soft brush away the dirt. I've never used water to wash them. First time I've ever heard of it is here. Go figure, 60 years a gardener and there are still surprises. At that stage I'll put them in mesh bags and hang in the shed until needed. Get an easy 10 months of perfect garlic and a couple of months of not quite. I'm going to select a few to wash right now and observe. Cheers and happy gardening It's a great channel you've got going.
THANK YOU!!
lucky you
mine looks like it failed again
Where do u buy the garlic to plant
Pulled my garlic a few days ago before rain. Thanks for everything you do in supplying seeds and educating us 🌱
Great video! Thanks.
Mine was epic this year too 👍👍
Wow, I thought I was the only one with early garlic!! Mine is ready to harvest, too, and normally I don’t harvest until the end of July. I harvested the scapes 3 weeks ago, which were also very early. Just goes to show, the garden does its own thing. I’ll be harvesting mine this week. Thank you for sharing this, Luke 🙏💚🤍💙
My garlic was super early this year too in NJ outside of Manhattan. Raspberries ripened a little earlier than usual too. I usually get my first raspberry harvest on Fathers day, this year I began harvesting a week or two earlier.
I love your garden.
Thank you!
Love it!
I haven't had a chance to watch the video yet, but is this related to EPIC gardens notably poor harvest the year?
Funny that you mention that. I haven’t seen his video yet. I can assure you he is a very talented gardener and we don’t like to re-use old titles so we just mix things up. Totally circumstantial but funny. No bad blood here. Kevin is a great guy.