Isiah Thomas gets booed by the First Take crowd for his Bulls-Pistons take
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- Опубліковано 12 лют 2020
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Stephen A. Smith, Isiah Thomas and Max Kellerman’s conversation about Milwaukee Bucks star Giannis Antetokoumpo turns into a Chicago Bulls vs. Detroit Pistons debate.
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1st of all you're wrong Max
2nd of all let me tell you why
@Ивайло Маринов not on this one my dude, and I'm Chi City 6x champ Jordan for life guy. Max is playing for the local crowd.
Siddharth Mouli on a THURSDAY🤣🤣
Oh ENOUGH of this stale copycat comment already!
@@KevyB. SAS remixed it today by breaking it up into 2 verses, clearly not the same.
why
Isiah didn't say anything bad about Jordan, he called him the goat! All he said was his teams were not great in the 80s! Everyone bashing Isiah for speaking the truth!
Jordantards don't wanna hear the truth..
@@kenrickeason go cry buddy
You proved his point
lol yeah sure, dumars rodman laimbeer and so on
"not great"
@@alpha-cf2oi Jordan team was bad, not the pistons....
I love how the hate and rivalry for Bulls and Pistons still boils to this day for those guys. Today's NBA is all about being bffs.
Haha exactly right 🔥🔥
Right,and I can't stand to watch it.
real league over soft league
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Hugging kissing exchanging jerseys social media beef smh
I love IT he keeps it 100 all the time he don’t care where he is 🤣
@Bogdan P 🤣🤣🤣🤣
On God
Without disclosing too many details, that's what we need in this world.....Lavar
Isiah Thomas was raised and Lived in Chicago
I remember the Bad Boys Pistons vs MJ and the bulls. That rivalry was nasty, physical and hard fought
Sports 311 bad boys made Jordan as great as he became. He had to become the GOAT to get passed the bad boys, Bird, and magic.
I truly missed the east rivalries in the 80s and 90s. Pistons vs Celtics, Bulls vs Pistons, Bulls vs NY, NY vs Pacers etc. I mean they were beatin each other physically and mentally.
Isiah and Jordan are going to be 70 years old still hating each other. They’ll never let it go
Zmilla True
More like dirty
On The Pistons part
But they got it done, went to 3 straight
NBA Finals and Won 2 back to back.
Max be like.."if Giannis makes every shot he EVER takes,he'll be the best player " smh
If Harden makes every shot he ever takes he'd have 100 pt games every time
@@Yoaneemmanuel He shoots 50% and gets 60pts. If he shot 100% he'd get 120. This shows just how great of an offense he is. No5 hatin
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Right 😭
He didn’t say that
I just love when corny reporters try to lecture hall of famers about sports
Its like a minimum wage worker telling Elon Musk how to make money
Lol zeke swagging on em. Leave that goat alone. He was great
He’s getting booed when he’s stating a historical fact lmao
Nick It’s not a fact. It’s a technicality. Sure he didn’t have another top 50 all time but he had 2 most likely top 70 guys in Joe Dumars and Rodman. Jordan didn’t have that. Come on now.
Stash Fronz it’s a fact that he beat him in the playoffs lmao and that he didn’t have a top 50 player
Nick okay but you and him are drawing a dumb line to make him appear like he was the only guy on that squad. Dumars and Rodman could easily be #51 and #52 on lists and arguably in the top #50 themselves
@@stanleyfronczakjr9835 Laimbeer was nothing to scoff at either haha
@@nick6956 He had Mark Aguirre, Bill Laimbeer, Rich Mahorn, Rodman, and Dumars. Stop the nonsense.
Zeke ain't never letting his bulls hatred go and I love it!!!
Facts. He’s a real dude. He will hold that hatred for the bulls till he dies
playaflyJOE27 I kind of feel bad. MJ is chillin cuz he knows they were better when they got Scottie.
El Dio I grew up a bulls fan and watched the pistons kick the snot out of us.
His hatred stems from the fact that he’s from Chicago and Chicago will never love him like they love Mike
@@powderedtoastfacekillah734 This is the REAL reason why Zeke hated the bull & MJ. He was jealous of MJ, not only for being the best NBA player in the NBA from 1991 and on but he owned Chicago forever. Zeke wanted to be in MJ's shoes for this reason only.
If zeke had a choice of being the best player in the NBA by leading detroit to several championships or doing it in Chicago twice like he did it in detroit, he would choose Chicago.
Respect to him for not being afraid to speak his mind. Zeke is a legend and a class act, and it’s a shame to see some people not give him the respect he deserves.
The crowd did actually give him respect bud.
He has shown himself to NOT be a “class act”….just an “act”
Why? He should welcome the boo's. They dubbed themselves the "Bad Boys" and now the want cheers? They didn't mind the boo's back when they was winning, hurting people and being a-holes.
he gives jordan no respect. Respect is earned he hasnt earned it
Max wakes up in the morning, looks in the mirror and asks himself, who should I say has the best shot of being the GOAT today?
right
*How should I say Kawhi has the best shot of being the GOAT today?*
He's supposed to say that, I dunno why everybody is booing him and I'm a Bulls fan.
We Pistons fans we dont like the Bulls what'd they expect?
He hates on mike lowkey all the time
Justin Scott everybody acts like Jordan dominated every single season when he played and that’s not the case at all
Nike281 Astro fam they HATED JORDAN. IT and magic for sure. MJ after his 2 year was CLEARLY THE best in the league he just didn’t have the team but everybody knew it was MJ league they just didn’t want to admit. Only one that kept it real was Bird he peeped it early and tried to tell magic “its over for us” MJ INDIVIDUALLY was the best way before he started winning tho
@@justinscott4357 over for us? Haha Jordan never beat Bird so you can throw that comment in the bin. Jordan couldn't get outta the first round in the 80s be quiet.
Zeke a true competitor
That Bulls / Detroit rivalry was something serious
Crazy how Zeke is born and raised from the Chi and gets booed for telling no lies
Isiah still bodying the Bulls, lmao!
Max “This is what PER means” Kellerman
Kyle
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Kyle nah it’s Max “When it maters the most “ Kellerman
@@Yoaneemmanuel With the chips on the line lol
Oh ENOUGH of this stale copycat comment already!
Only casuals think Kawhi shut down Giannis by himself. Kawhi's job was to hold him on top to neutralize the dribble of Giannis. Ibaka, Siakam, Gasol were there to neutralize his scoring.
Kawhi is a better individual player then Giannis
Exactly, sick of this ignorant narrative. Give Kawhi his due but don't get it twisted. You even see what you (DJ) are saying about Kawhi running him into the bigs in the lowlights they are showing while Max is talking.
Also Giannis teammates wasn’t hitting shots like they had been doing
@@LESHANNONSHARPE nobody is arguing who's the better player. If we are, then let me bring up Michael Jordan.
@@RariShiesty yeah the Bucks had the lead on a couple of those games and could've won the series honestly. But the Bucks didn't adjust when Giannis wasn't producing. For me I blame the coaching. Budenholzer didn't adjust in the Celtics series after losing game 1, and the Bucks won 4 straight after that. So I'm guessing that's why the Bucks didnt adjust in the Toronto series.
I’m from the East side of Detroit and this just made my day !!!
The Pistons were THAT DEAL!!!!! People can hate all they want, smh!!!!! They're only doing that because its not LA, Miami, etc etc... Detroit is the city people love to hate, smh. I'm from the Eastside of Detroit too, lol much love 💪💪💪
@YoungFree what??! ...stop hating! Yeah I guess with about 20 "star" players on one team I'd win multiple championships too, smh. Thats not impressive. L.A.did the same thing with buying up all the heavy names, so did Miami, Houston, etc etc. NOT IMPRESSED. Like I said people always hating on Detroit and you just proved my point, smh... most importantly, both Chicago and Detroit have fallen off from being top tier and in the same boat at the bottom of the NBA. Again, I'm talking about the Pistons during THAT time, they were the DEAL...bye
@YoungFree ...man get lost!! Back at ya
Put some respect on Isaiah Thomas's name!!! Underrated.
wait, didn't stephen A say LeBron is the best and now he says its Giannis? And he calls out Max for changing his mind lol
Lebron should be in a different category
Lebron is prob best in playoffs but giannis is only getting better and lebron is almost 40.
@@zType2 He's 5 years from 40
this is literally the show they change their mind every week half time it's nonsense but still class
Max change his mind in two seconds not half a season
IT is right. Kawhi didn't stop by himself Giannis. They had 4 guys on him. They knew he had no jumpshot. Lol. Max is hilarious
Rewatch the games and check the stats 1 on 1 Giannis was bad.
@@AristotelK not saying that this was the case but those stats aren't entirely reliable. Kawhi may have played good defense, but Giannis may have been "bad" as you said possibly due to being worn down by the moments in the game when he's facing the whole Raptors team.
@@AristotelK they sat sat pascale and lopez on the elbows, waiting to double and bring pressure to giannis any time he drove it was a team effort
So we not gonna about how kawhi was getting doubled by Milwaukee every time he touched the ball
Harley Inglis Kawhi had teammates producing as well, bucks role players were missing open shots
Detroit always getting renounced! Glad Zeke standing up for the D! Bad Boys!!!!
6:38 “STAY OFF THE WEEEEDDD”😂😂
Zeke is correct . Head to Head The Bad Boys had a winning record against The Bulls (MJ & Scottie), Celtics (with Bird, Parish, McHale), & the Lakers (Showtime).
That bulls team got a threepeat, the pistons didn't, therefore he's wrong.
He still salty lol
lmao. enjoy your "head-to-head" championship Zeke.
@@guilhermevieira6010 if it wasn't for a bs foul in '88, they would of had a threepeat
@@da_jeezuss8922 if it wasn't for mj retirement the bulls would 5peat
Zeke: Chicago ain’t got love for Isiah Thomas and The Bad Boys
Bill Laimbeer: Any baller that wants to win championships and doesn’t want their best player all up in the casinos...... gambling....... losing........ Come to DETROIT
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Zeke told the truth about Scottie Pipen being a top 50 player of all time. Zeke didn't have a top 50 teammate, so stop saying Jordan didn't have help. The pistons beat the bulls more than the bulls beat the pistons...facts 💯
Perry Ellis it’s doesn’t matter, every team has its era. I can say Bulls dominated the Pistons “91 and on.
.. Lakers too
"Whenever they speak Michael Jordan, they should speak Scottie Pippen" - Michael Jordan
But he has a bunch of thugs body slamming players all over the court. They may not be top 50 player, but if you say that didn't contribute on the bad boys success then you're blind af.
Pippen score 9 pointsper game was the second scorer behind some dude call sam vicent ho had 10 ppg his first 4 seasons , the moment he score 20 points chicago sweep them , thats a fact
Isiah Zeke Thomas is my favorite player of all time and yes he is correct he actually has a better head to head vs Bird the Celtics, Jordan the bulls and Magic lakers
Go look it up He spoke all facts
"First if all, you are wrong Max, but what else is new?" SASvage!!!
Kemuel Sanchez 😂😂😂😂😂
Bruh 😂
I’m a diehard Bulls Fan and I remember the pistons killing us lol. Zeke was the truth!
FACTS
you mean you remember them physically trying to kill the Bulls, let's keep it real.
Or both 😂💀
Curry is regarded as best shooter of all time. If curry played in the 90s with zeke and Gary Payton and others we wouldn't even know curry's name .
The JORDAN RULES will do that to a player lol
My niece’s dad is Isaiah’s Nephew. They all went to a family reunion one time and Isiah showed up left after about 15 minutes because he was getting into scraps with his family about money and what not. He’s always been a fighter his whole life.
@6:47 Hey, Scottie coming in here, after me right? Ask him! 😂
Isiah, said "Hey, man I'm outta here." 😂
“Chips on the line” and “you’re wrong, here’s why” in a 30 second window. Sheeeeesh
Basically anything that I.T says about MJ or the bulls will be diminished by MJ fans who don’t want to criticize MJ in any way at all.
Noah Shreve by your logic everyone who has ever faced jordan and lost to him shouldn’t be taken as seriously either when it comes to this subject because they faced him. Yeah no
Noah Shreve so just because he has a different opinion on Jordan that means he is bias? It’s his opinion. Just like saying Jordan is the greatest of all time, it’s still an opinion...not a fact.
IT has a point. You don’t get to a 72-10 records with a bunch of bums on your team.
ButImNotAReviewer u could argue if look at that bulls team with today’s eyes 👀 as super team. Jordan, pippen, Rodman, kukoc, Ron Harper
@@TonyStarks1986 It's almost like Jordan was the reason why Isiah was left out of the dream team and Isiah freezed out Jordan during his 1st all star game. And the Bulls and Pistons hated each other.
They both have a history, don't be stupid..
When I was younger, I hated how the old school ballers would hate on each other but now after seeing how soft the game is now, I appreciate seeing the pettiness from old legends more. I feel its competitive and the fact that these men still hate each other thirty years later brings tears of joy.
Isiah stood up there, by himself...Mic-drop!
I LOVE ISIAH THOMAS...tell em Zeke! ✊🏾
I just love the way y'all keep counting him off .. I remember before the season started y'all said they'll be worse because brogdon left.. this man is on a mission this year
He has to get to the finals and perform well and if he faces Kawhi, he can't succumb to the pressure. After the birth of his kid, I think Giannis will come back post all star break with vengeance.
@@godson30032 I hope you know this guy has always gotten better and his team has always gotten better with him. . last year they got to the ecf . First time under a great coach .. it's only going to get better and I think stars should be thinking of joining Giannis
No ones counting him off it's the truth that Giannis becomes inconsistent in the playoffs he was lucky that he faced a mediocre Pistons team that was also injured in the 1st round and than faced a Boston team that was dealing with Kyries drama and how Kyrie quit on the team if Kyrie was focused on winning instead of causing drama and being a quitter Boston would've most likely beaten the Bucks even Giannis himself has admitted how he wanted the Bucks to keep Brogdon his clutch shooting also bailed them out in the playoffs when Giannis was inconsistent until Giannis plays on a consistent basis in a playoff run and faces worthy opponents this whole narrative of him being unstoppable gotta stop Lol
@MichaelTroy L before the season 90 percent said sixers would.. I just laughed
@@sabihfaraz6732 Giannis sandy inconsistent in the playoffs.. infact he wasn't good till the 4 consecutive losses.. bledsoe was mediocre .. if bledsoe had like at least an average series Milwaukee would've won it .. bledsoe was infact much worse than Giannis
Go Isiah! You are a legend! And it is soooo true. I remember that match-up only too well! It was the first play-off series I got to watch in the middle of the night (in the Netherlands). And with my first earned cash (paper route) I bought myself a Pistons jacket. And only a few months later a set of Air Jordans 😂
He ain't underrated. He is a legend. Dominate player.2 rings.Legend.
Coury Landers should be 3 but lakers got a gift lol
“By Sunday he had him 5th” I’m weak asf 🤣🤣☺️
Alright that last emoji was clearly not for this comment
Le Nguyen Max a boxing guy...no more
Zeek was right about that top 50 of all time. 👀👀
tearsoverbeers It’s a technicality. Sure he didn’t have another top 50 all time but he had 2 most likely top 70 guys in Joe Dumars and Rodman. And a former NBA rebound leader Bill Laimbeer. Jordan didn’t have that. Come on now.
Well he played with 3 other HOF's the only team who had 4 total HOF's were the celtics in the 80's and the 60's and the warriors if u count Draymond as a future HOF(me I dont)
@Albert You caught what Isiah was really trying to communicate to the world..lol. He had to hold back.
@Albert idiot hes a top 50 all time.. Search idiot
He was right about all of it
7 reigning NBA championship teams have been swept the following season:
The 1956-57 Philadelphia Warriors
The 1988-89 Los Angeles Lakers (in the Finals by the Pistons)
The 1990-91 Detroit Pistons (in the Eastern Conference Finals by the Bulls)
The 1995-96 Houston Rockets
The 2006-07 Miami Heat
The 2010-11 Los Angeles Lakers
The 2011-12 Dallas Mavericks
If Isiah doesn't get injured in 88 the pistons 3peat
The fact is, you can't change history-the Bulls could not beat the Pistons in their prime.
Max "in the biggest moment" Kellerman
Isaiah made a valid point about the 50 greatest players.
Scottie wasn’t at his best when he became an all star tho. When he reached the peak of his prime he was a top 50 player but the time the Bulls took the Pistons to 7 Scottie wasn’t at his peak yet
That One Guy I think Isaiah just speaking in retrospect. Like from the outside lookin in now. Because Max said he wasn’t at his peak yet, but Isaiah was using Max logic of “on paper” analysis to combat back. You right though.. and Jordan’s squad didn’t have the cohesion Isaiah’s had
@@thatoneguy3849 what was his peak?
No other Piston should have been on the 50 greatest players list ✅
@@mygod5500 His peak was from 91 to 96 ✅
Max - "I love my mum"
SaS - "you are wrong and I'm going to tell you why you are wrong"
Zeke is an underrated legend. He was a beast in his prime.
Underrated?...nope..."beast"...yup....
but he threw that all away with his lack of class not shaking hands when his team got whooped.
He has/will try to detract from that for life....but it will still be there when he and us are loooooong gone.
"Mr. Thomas". Otherwise, yes, your comment is spot on......
@@milolee4746 Please! If you're not going to hold Larry Bird to the same criticism for doing the exact same thing to the Pistons. He snubbed us, the Pistons snubbed Mike... that's how the mantle was passed in the east.... CLOWN!!!
@@TeamTuc i didn't have a problem when bird walked off. Didnt have a problem when zeke did or bron either. Losing at that level, it can be hard to keep your cool.
@@eyeconqueror1185 I concur
Raptors just had a 15 game win streak and are 2nd in the east without Kawhi.. Also, last year former DPOY Marc Gasol played a big role in shutting down Giannis.. Just a few things Max fails to mention
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Exactly bro, that whole team was stacked.
Regular season means nothing lol
They were winning regular season games without Kawhi last year too
@@daniell5740 Yet every regular season game that Lebron plays is scrutinized and over-analysed for hours upon hours. LOL
every highlight of kawhi " stopping " giannis shows him blowing pass kawhi and getting contested by gasol or serge lol
Right like the jumpball or the blocks Kawhi has on Giannis too right
@@brianortiz7233 im talking about the highlights they played while max was talking .
Absolutely not true.
@@followthebrickroad6518 once again im referring too the lowlights they played as max was speaking and a good majority of that is what happened
Razor - Jersey! You mean when Giannis blocked him from his blindsided ? Or you mean how he dunked on Giannis ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Boooooy, imagine scottie, and Isiah on tha set together🤣🔥💯
I'd like to see Isiah and Scottie on the set together
It was a team effort to stop Giannis. There's no way Kawaii's stopping him by himself.
This Kawhi shut down Giannis 1 on 1 narrative needs to end, the entire raptors team guarded Giannis, they shut down the lane put Kawhi on him ( who did a better job than the rest of the raptors for sure ), but no way can he shut down Giannis 1 on 1
Fruit Punch Samurai I cant wait to see them play. I think Kawhi would be able to with everything on the line.
@@TheAliisawesome what's everything on the line? Is their life on the line, their family's well being? Stop watching these types of shows with people who have no idea about basketball and everything they say is aimed to be controversial or get likes and clicks on social media. Listen to podcasts from former players and coaches that's where the knowledge is
@@475818 word UP !
Team effort. But in the specific one on one isolation plays between them. Giannis shot poorly
Talk that ssshhhh Isaiah Thomas!!! 💪🏾🏀
I noticed Max always refers to younger players as “puppies”🤣
Isaiah's energy changes COMPLETLEY when speaking on Chicago.Lip start quivering & whatnot Lol. Whenever u say "dude" in the middle of a debate its personal.
Just to put some perspective on the "MJ losing in the 1st round" thing:
1) The Bulls were 27-55 the season before MJ joined and they missed the playoffs. He dragged them into the playoffs by himself as a rookie. (His stats went up while in the playoffs too).
2) The first round losses came at the hands of a 59 wins Bucks team (rookie year), and then Larry Bird's Celtics teams packed with legendary players. All while dragging a bad team along with him.
3) The first year he had any form of help (a rookie Pippen) he made it out of the first round every season.
So lets not pretend him not making it out of the first round his first three seasons single-handedly is some form of criticism. It was amazing he got those Bulls teams there in the first place.
Also the ppl who try and slam Jordan for losing in 1st round are Bron fans who dont relise his 1st year he missed playoffs
Wade made playoffs btw
P H because the East was horrible. He was making the playoffs not even getting 40 wins
Then you have LeBron fanboys acting like their surrogate father being 3-6 in the finals is comparable to Jordan's early playoff losses.
Jordan didn't get outplayed by a 33 year roleplayer in a playoff series like Jason Terry did to LeBron.
And as soon as he first retired, the Bulls went from a 55 win season, to a 53 win season a game away from an NBA Finals
isiah said that MJ was still the best player. It wasn't criticism at all. He probably just doesn't like when things are over exaggerated when it comes to MJ because he was able to beat him and probably feels discredited when people say Jordan didn't beat him because "whatever".
I love Zeke hence why I love the Pistons. I’ve been a Pistons fan since 89. They rock!!
Right!!!! The Pistons wasnt NOTHING TO PLAY WITH during that time!! They were ON POINT!! One of the top 3 teams in the league at that time. They were/are the team people love to hate just because the city was Detroit, smhhh 😒😑
You fools got swept
Now go home and get your shinebox 😂
Bulls and Pistons have so much respect for each other. Its great too see. Ill always love chicago, BUT its still Go Pistons!!!
Isaiah aged SO WELL, sheesh!!!! That dude nearly looks exactly the same!! 💪💪And he was an AWESOME player back in the day. He doesn't get the attention or recognition he deserves.... people are always yapping about MJ but Isaiah was a COLD PIECE!!
Ugh Molly is back! 🤢
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Max “He can be the best player ever” Kellerman
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I love how IT won’t let that bulls rivalry die. So much shade!
I think some people don't see how competitive Isaiah Thomas was. He once put it to the Lakers on one leg. He's not just going to ✋ it over to the Bulls.
Lmao. Isiah always reminding everyone Jordan was knocked out in the first round in the 80s.
Yawns, 0-3 against Bird and the Celtics in the playoffs back then
The Cool Nerd Which is why he called him the “greatest player”. However, to doubt that MJ needed help to win championship which he certainly got with Pippen and Rodman, is to be lazy and wrong.
Jordan had nobody, once he got a little help he destroyed everybody, including isiah
And it was his first 3 years in the league
The Cool Nerd He never said he did or didn’t. He said he was the greatest player at the time when they played against each other(even though MJ lost in those encounters). So if MJ was not playing well against them, how could he not think he was the best player in the world even though he was coming up short? It’s not logical. He recognized that MJ did well against him. However he needed help and not only got help but he’s saying got help in one of the top50 players of all time.
The famous line every hater uses ”MJ lost in first round” but never mention the trash he was playing with and playing against 4 HOF celtics 86 and 87 and 85 Bucks who was no joke MJ rookie year
When IT said “on my team.....it was me....” That got me
He just forgot dumars and rodman, must be Alzheimer.
@@guilhermevieira6010 he was talking about being apart of the top 50 players of all time
Guilherme Vieira Were they all-stars tho. He made that point because Max brought up Pip being an all-star
@@sanantoballa4834 yes they were all star level players
@@mattyice1896 ok, he should be top 50
This is just like the “why are you booin me I’m right” video!
Always count on Max spitting the same MJ + 1 all star statement every show. Also pandering to the Chicago crowd. Isaiah was right here
I just wish KD was healthy... This would be a different conversation.
Man KD And Kyrie gonna be killing dudes next year.
Big freak would NOT join the Raptors!
@Luis Lopez did i say he was going to come back the same ?... You are definitely beyond yourself... Relax.
@Luis Lopez even if KD doesnt get back to the same lvl,he is still better then most so who cares top 10 no matter what
Agree, kawhi left the east bcuz he know kd/kyrie will be going on a murder spree next year
DETROIT IN THE BULDING MY DAWG ZEKE !!!!
Ya dig!!!💯✔ What up Doe!!!
He still mad he wasn't in the dream team...lol
That is Dope though.
Zeke doesn’t forget.
But Zeke was born and raised in Chicago tho 😂 lol
Jahqay Burnett but they praised Jordan more and that probably made zeke salty
I love Isiah he's fearless in that hostile Chicago crowd.
“Highest in history if the season ended this year” yeah max I think it’s gonna end this year 🤣
4:55 lmao guy in the back shaking his head 😂😂😂
I love IT but what he said was wild lmao making it seem like he was the only good player on those pistons teams that's why the dude shaking it head😂😭
Matthew Denby yeah but he ain’t have no top 50 of all time on his squad ..
@@RiseAboveMyHaters He didn't need one when you actually look at the team he had around him
MAX KELLERMAN HIT HIM WITH THE "FACTS DON'T CARE BOUT YOUR FEELINGS", and he wanted to cry bout it....I.T still salty bout his A days smh....let it go man.
I.T. Said facts none of it was opinion based
@@jerrodgarland2604 the fact was the second Jordan got another All Star with him, that was pretty much the end of The Bad Boys era...
@Nicrai Sixteen fair, but my point still stands tho.
Fabien Kouabran yeah but bad boys ain’t have no real allstars other than I.T.
@@fabienkouabran6481 Facts
You can't be mad for Isiah for rep his team, who wouldn't do the same?
Zeke always looks innocent with that smile but he's always been a savage, lol.
Imagine booing someone from that city chicago yall sum snakes frfr
Temanchi he played for that cities team rival his entire career & beat them year in and year out in the playoffs until 1991 why wouldn’t they boo Isiah
Jordan
Two rings compared to six rings… The bulls swept the Pistons… Isaiah couldn’t play on the dream team… He is jealous and bitter
- doesn't know nba history
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Every segment someone can be the best player ever!!! Lol
Isiah's is still upset they left him off of the dream team, so you add that with that Statue of Mike on the side of Chicago where he grew up at still doesn't sit right with Thomas.
Good point
@Jscottmoody Isiah went against Jordan and was put in his place where he belonged so he can't tell me nothing because everything I stated is fact.
@@donnelladams340 Soo getting smoked 3 times then finally winning is putting someone in their place...?
Oh well 😏 He can stay butthurt❗
@@allthingsconsidered...4894 No we don't ❌ Yawl act like Jordan had to win every game and be perfect to be considered the greatest ✅ The Celtics have nothing to do with the Pistons and Bulls past rivalry ❌ The Pistons were dishonorable punks when they played both teams period ✅
It’s about time the pistons get the notoriety we deserve fym 💯💯
If it turns into Chicago and Detroit,
The Bulls made the Pistons walk off the court with time on the clock!
They were in Detroit, Chicago disrespected them and their city in the press. Why shake their hand in front of your own home crowd after they disrespected your city. Also, Detroit was older and done.
The Celtics did it first when Detroit beat them in the 89 conference finals. People don't talk about that one, but will hold that against the Pistons because Jordan said so.
@@quadryjohnson2099 Thank You...
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Bruh I don't know why people seem to disregard that. It was the same exact thing, but because The Pistons did it to Jordan and the Bulls it was worse? Nope. The same exact thing.
Detroit stomped their heads for years before that even happened.
Isiah is spot on he was one of best to ever do it
it escalated to a different atmosphere
Also remember, that Chicago is Isaiah's hometown. He resented (and still does, as you can tell) that MJ was such a star in his hometown.
Big facts
lol true, and that hes only 1.85 amongst all >2m guys lol
People always HATIN' on Isaiah!! It was the other way around.... MJ was intimidated and jealous of ISAIAH!!!!!! That's why he fought so hard to remove him from the All star team, etc!! Isaiah was THAT DEAL back in the day. Even Jordan admitted he and the Pistons were the bomb, even though he seems to hate them til this day! Smh
Per is so overrated it‘s getting out of hand
Like every stat, it has to be taken with context.
@J Johnson you're joking right? "eye test" means just putting your own biased subjective opinion ahead of objective facts
@@TheTruthiest yup I trust my eyes, knowledge and feel for the game more than I do the numbers and some analytical statistical nerd telling me what's greater
That's why I don't watch NBA anymore because what's greatness to them now is now is not what traditional greatness was back then... The actual meaning of the word... Jordan was the greatest because he played with style and grace that no other player could duplicate he didn't need a championship for the world to agree that he was the best ever that was something Jordan himself felt he needed for him to be the best
@@swishersweetsirelli6875 he didn't need a championship? They ride him for those 6 rings like nobody else has more than him or something
Every time zeke brings up mj he sounds salty af 😂😂
No he sounds like a 2x champion who beat all the greatest teams of the 80s and Michael Jordan
Chris Cuevas facts 💯😂
Edward Tucker I mean.....: 6 is better than 2 🤔🤔🤔
by saying he was the best player in the league?
@@cesarfierro9340 6 is better than 2 but those two rings he faced better comp getting to the finals and in the finals
Isiah relishes being a villain in his hometown, lmao. If anyone gets a chance watch John Salley's interview on Vlad TV. According to him though the Pistons/Bulls rivalry was big time on the court most of they were friends and even hung out off the court. Apparently according to Salley the real story behind Isiah's competitive juice against the Bulls was when he saw his nephew (in Chicago) wearing a Jordan jeresy instead of his, lol. It was not personal, sometimes an athlete needs a motivation to get an edge. Sort of like how Reggie Miller got motivated from trash talking. I do recall Jordan tried to choke Reggie once for his big mouth, lol
2:26 LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO STEPHEN A SMITH IS DESTROYING MAX KELLERMAN LIKE I WOULD LOOOLOL
I’m with Isaiah how is the pistons always left out of best teams they beat magic and Jordan wow
RICH ALLEN That's why he got that chip on his shoulder. The bad boy pistons are underrated af.
And BIRD
Couple things hurt the 80s pistons. They had no flashy players and no true dominant player. Isiah was part of the top 50 all time when that list came out, but he will be bumped out soon. He was not a truly dominant player himself. The Bulls, Lakers and Celtics having more rings makes them more talked about team of that era.
@@danielkim672 Your delusions have you lost. Isaiah is the second best PG all time behind Magic. Do yo remember Isaiah pushing the Lakers to seven games while he was playing on one leg in game 6, he scored 43 points and 26 of them came in the third quarter forcing game 7. Honestly Pippen should be bumped before Isaiah on the top 50. Isaiah is a legend and this is coming from a fan of the showtime Lakers. People like you are bandwagon fans, you don't really know what's going on. What you know about ZEKE!
@@ldgslrcdg Man, I am not sure why all these internet trolls that obviously did not watch the NBA in the 80s and early 90s keep misspelling his name. SMH. How hard is that. IT IS ISIAH. Give the man at least that much respect.
That was a great game by Zeke against the Lakers. One game does not make a career. I have no problem is someone wanted to bump Pippen for Zeke.
Zeke and the Pistons are properly rated. There are so many folks that underrate him I agree, but so many that overrate him.
Second best PG after Magic? CMON. You are not a Lakers fan. ALthough Jerry west is listed as a PG, I can get people put West as a Shooting guard for those Lakers. But The Logo did handle the rock a ton for the Lakers. So let's take the Logo out, but I will say he is hands down many steps better than Zeke.
Not only does Zeke have a so so PER, his Win Shares per 48 minutes is very very low. Basically .100. The elite PGs, Like Magic, Like Oscar Robertson, Like John Stockton, Like the aforementioned Logo, all have Win Shares per 48 DOUBLE that or more. Add in more modern PGs like Chris Paul, Curry , they are better than Zeke. Some may argue Kidd is too. Others may put in Gary Payton. So for you to put Zeke #2 no arguments asked behing Magic, really goes to show you how much of a HOMER you really are
All max ever do is ride anyone that’s shinning at the moment. I remember he was on wentz hard then on DAK hard then mahomes. When basketball came around he use to ride kawhi now he’s on giannis. Stop it max!!!!
I'm a huge fan of MJ but Isiah didn't deserve that booing! Felt bad for him 😶
Isiah was right! Scottie said it: "And Yes The Pistons Was That Team"
6:34 U can 100% tell Stephen A and Molly do not get along at ALL.
Lmao why the crowd so salty. Isaiah is right. Before Jordan got Scottie he didn’t make it to the finals so why are they booing him?
The salt is real
Just because you know it's true doesn't mean you gonna like ppl bringing it up
Charles Green everybody needs helps it’s foolish to think otherwise. I just think Chicago fans hate Isaiah for his past takes on Jordan lol
That’s something the real skip bay less would never say
Charles Green Scottie only got the Bulls to the 2nd round
Is it Milwaukee or Moowaukee?
Isaiah hit home with that one. Isaiah was the only top50 player on his team. I loved isaiah in this tale because that's old school rivalry.
This is why Giannis and Kawhi are becoming better than everyone so fast. They have that competitive spirit as well.
Zeke cold for that one. Threw his entire team under the bus lmao
Before y’all say Zeke mad about Jordan gotta realize Jordan NEVER beat him while he was healthy that’s facts ha has no reason to be mad at em still he got the higher ground on MJ
Where 😂? Stop this nonsense
In 91 he was healthy stop
jonathan Tolbert team wasnt
That was at the end of the bad boys era ONE time
Y’all can talk bout the one yr he did in 91 like that’s some to stand on though.
Isiah and Scottie in the same studio? OMG
I don’t know why Pippen hate Zeke, it was Dennis Rodman pushed him in the stands
Isiah Thomas is being booed by his own home town....that must be a shyty feeling! People seem to forget that Isiah was born, and raised in the south side of Chicago! I take that back Zeke looks like he was loving it Lmao!!! 🤣 ❤
Love this segment Zeke speaking truth and the Hillman College hat in the back its a different world.