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I have a phenom 6 core processor
F2F Tech i have a fx8300 and it is very good for modern things
Fantastic work. Only took six years for AMD to yell "Told ya!"
It's tough when Intel and Nvidia slide deals to developers to cap amd interface with software. Take the core 0 issue. Or just plain old no multicore programming in games software.
Yeah in 2015 when I built my budget gaming pc I chose an FX-8320 and I'm glad that I didn't listen to a friend of mine who told me to consider the Pentium G3258, the ultra overclockable dual core CPU that everyone was talking about.
Now basically every game uses at least 4+ cores, it would have been painful to still have that Pentium nowadays.
Any new from the grounds up arcitecture takes 5-6 years to make, regardless of company.
And you're clearly a elitist nvidia user
@@nicolaramoso3286
I had the same dilemma in 2015. Ryzen was still too far away and I had been considering the FX-83x0 for a long time, but felt it was too old to purchase in 2015 and in the end went for a much more expensive i5-6600K setup as soon as intel released it. But given what happened in the CPU market and how intel increased the core counts in their mainstream CPU' lately, I feel ripped off :/
The i5-6600K is a second-grade junk now, not much better than your FX.
"There are still plenty of Fx8350 users out there without the funds to do a full system upgrade" - Yup, thats me. Been rocking an FX8350 and GTX780 since 2013, it has been an absolute trooper for me. I look forward to breaking out into AMD's new 7nm architecture in the coming year or so but until I can gather the funds I will keep my 8350 build alive.
i have it to lol to meny ppl have it 8350
same fx8350 and gtx780ti for the past 3 years and if you get stutters just clock the fsb and it goes away im running 227mhz on fsb and 21:00 multiplier which is 4.6ghz at 1.4v and it only goes about 10'c above ambient temp i can run at 4.9ghz at 1.5v if i had to its fine at 4.6 so why push it
Yeah, I've been thinking about upgrading mine too. I've got the FX-8350 with 16Gb of ram with the R9 390X with 8Gb of ram. Needless to say, I had to add some cooling fans. But it always performed. My wife just wants something a little more quiet.
I have fx 8350 also with 32gb ddr1600 and a xfx rxrs 480 8gb
@@jerrybandy3827 u really dont need to upgrade just add more ram lol
"This power supply is pretty overkill for this system"
FX 8350: "Challenge accepted"
Nowadays, 450W 80+Gold PSU is enough for mainstream gaming. Ofc this is valid as long as you use quality PSU. I have Bitfenix whisper 450 and I ended up with only 2 cables. Both for CPU and Mobo.
My FurnaceX-9590: "GIVE ME MOREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
*>Tfw you use a 750W PSU when AMD recommends 1000W and somehow you keep your powerhogging CPU stable with air-cooling*
If it is about the same as the FX8300. I just clicked "OC Genie" and it jumped from 3.3 to 4.2 gig.
Runs at about 260+ watts.
I have the exact same system running with a RX580 on a 450W PSU, works just fine.
@@LerRhann You're not going push 260watts through a 4 phase VRM though
i have a fx8350 + RX580 and it works great!
Donschnulione can it run Fortnite on cap 144fps steady on all low settings just view distance high
@@Albandz_ i do not Play forknut. i dont know. maybe.
Donschnulione lol
Ok
It can run it in 144
Rafo ok thx
The FX really weren't bad. There is more to life than benchmarks. 70FPS vs 85FPS is a very similar experience.
Nice! These FX chips are still holding onto their value on the second hand market.
IKR. Even finding an a good deal on a 990 FX board isn’t easy. They are all pricey.
Yea I'm seeing the same. I think it will take a few more years for AM3 to become really cheap.
@ Just sold a FX 9590 chip for $210 AUD. Was expecting way less!
I changed to Ryzen 5 2600X + RX590 from a FX8350 with a Radeon 7950. Sold the old CPU for like 75$ in Poland and the motherboard for like 62$ (gigabyte 990fxa-ud3)
@@wefukthenwo lmfao, i bought a 9590 for 50 bucks, thats great
For 5 years I used the AMD 8350, and I was able to overclock it to 4.6 GHZ, worked great for editing, air cooled, was absolutely amazing.
The AMD 9590 though was... terrible, so hot even on water cooling I had to disable 2 cores to get it stable at 5 GHZ.
I highly recommend the 8350 but anything higher and hotter, not at all.
Mines running at 4.5 it's a good chip
Is 8370 better than 8350
How did you get 4.6? I can't even remember what mine is, probably 4.3 or something.
@@JZStudiosonline cooling and the chip u got
My FX 9590 has been rock solid, even at 5GHz. Granted I am running the required water cooling in an H100i. But not a single issue. I think it's the luck of the draw with the chips. But I know quite a few people tried running these with the wrong motherboards, as they had to have a board with 220w to the cpu. I run mine with an Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z. The real reason I would consider this cpu a mistake for me is because I 'upgraded' from a Phenom II X6 Black 1100T (awesome cpu). So at the time, gains were almost imperceivable.
Something to keep in mind is that Windows 10 seems to handle scheduling on CMT chips a whole metric whackton better than Win 7 did. I noticed pretty significant uplift in performance when switching my FX rigs to Win10 for most gaming loads. It's kind of amusing that FX chips are faster now than they ever were during their official lifetime.
I literally just put my FX rig on win 10... definitely noticed a 15fps jump in every game... blew my mind really.
@@joeballz3121 I guess proof that, as usual, AMD was ahead of their time.
Haha, or that Windows task scheduler is always horrid (cough cough, Threadripper showing Windows jankyness again...).
Really the biggest shame to AMD was trying to advance the CPU space with a CMT mainstream processor. Windows 7 was terrible for the FX. I saw the forward thinking back then I think if I had spent my money on a 2500k I wouldn't have been as happy as I am with the FX now.
Do you know if windows 8.1N has the same effect on this chip as windows 10? I'm currently using the 8350 and never heard of this improvement before. That might be a reason for me to upgrade (I never upgraded because of the poor reception windows 10 had at launch).
Still rocking my 8370(BE), XFX RX 480 8GB, and 16GB ram. Runs all my games like a Boss.
Dave dyer I have the the smaller version of that man haha 8350 xfx 470
The most underrated CPU of all time!
@Johnfuse The AMD FX-8350 and the i7 4770 aren't even close in price. The AMD processor is $75 right now and the i7 is close to $300.
If money is no object, then there are far better processors than either of these.
@@norezenable The i7 is defnitely not 300 lol. You can get them on reddit hardware swap for about 120-140,
@@djhey123 Uh...a new (not used or refurbished) 4770 is $265+tax. John said "close to $300". $265 is *CLOSE TO $300* . A new 8350 is $75. Huge difference. If you go the used/refurbished route a 4770 is still 2-3 times the price of a 8350.
@Johnfuse that's TODAY'S prices, not 5 years ago lmao...and maybe you're the stupid one if you didn't catch that and also don't see why people would buy a 4-5 year old CPU. Some people don't have a budget to buy modern hardware, and as the video proves, you get a lot of bang for your buck buying older components. If you buy all used, you can build the PC in this video for under 500 bucks, and considering it's performance that's pretty damn good for someone with a super-low budget.
Those extra cores sure do help me out for recording and streaming video. In may not get 150fps in games but I get over 60 with fx and r9 390. I don't lose fps when streaming either because most games just dont use all 8 threads. It balances the workload out.
@Johnfuse ye, but price, 190$ against 300$ on starts
Completely agree with you, it's not that the performance is bad, it's just that once again 1155 is cheaper, and better at most tasks.
Unless you know how to properly OC FX cpus
Captain Baka why go through the hassle of finding a deal for a 990fx board, a decent cooler, and a kinda beefy psu when I could just get a 4th gen i5, $20 cooler, and a barebones mobo and still have them perform the same
ua-cam.com/video/NESy_FDV9Lk/v-deo.html this is even a generation behind and they're still performing nearly the same
@@peanutdelight8413 You don't need a 990fx board.. it is ncie to have, yes, but something like ga-970a-ud3p is enough, and it's cheap and widespread
If you can't find ud3p - M5A97 R2.0 is still available today for 60 bucks and a free shipping and will do the job(one of the most widespread boards atm).. not to mention all the 990 boards on second-hand market from all the people who genuinely believe that FX sucks
You don't need a good cooler, gammaxx 400 is more than enough to stay ~ at 55 degrees at load after proper OC
Generally speaking: ~ 20 bucks cooler will do the job just fine
You don't need a beefy psu either, especially with modern GPUs
Good 550w psu will be enough most of the time, especially with a 1060 or something similar in terms of power draw
You don't want to OC FX too much, because after ~ 4.4 ghz it gains too much powerdraw and heat compared to previous settings
Depending on your silicon - you shouldn't go above 4.4ghz without proper cooling solution, and for most users it's the best range(4.2-4.4)
And without understanding how to "complex OC" this cpu - it's may not gain performance above this threshold a lot of the time, or even loose it(e.g. performing worse at 5ghz than 4.7 ghz)
Regarding your video - they are not gonna perform the same, the link you provided shows bad kind of overclock
This techtuber doesn't know what he's doing
And the whole point about FX cpu's is NOT the fps
But how smooth and stable they are, they won't lag where i5 would, they load textures where i5/i7 wouldn't and so on
They are more "honest" CPU's so to say
If you want smoothness and stability - you complex OC 83xx, if you want high fps numbers with stutters, lag and skipping loading textures - you go with some kind of locked i5/i7/xeon/whatever
But at least your max fps will be higher sometimes, if you don't know how to OC FX *shrugs*
@@peanutdelight8413 I paid $22 for my AIO... Darn, you beat me by $2! It was good for 4.8 GHz (for gaming you could go higher, I needed mine to be extremely stable though). I used a $40 (price I paid for the board new in 2015), so you don't need anything fancy, I added a whopping $2 in 40mm fans and it was good (I have it driven at 1.7 Vcore at 5.5 Ghz on exotic cooling, somehow nothing has caught fire... I'm pretty surprised! I guess the VRM is much better than people give credit)
1155 hasn't been cheaper since ryzen came out. Sadly the 1155 still holds value because it's the best thing you can put in AM3 boards that don't have bios updates. Was lucky with my CHFIV that it supports FX. Paid about $130 just after ryzen launch for an FX8350 to replace a phenom 555 and haven't looked back.
Great video. For a 6 year old processor, the FX 8350 still holds up great, and I'm still using one myself on a Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 overclocked to 4.6 Ghz and paired with a GTX 970. I would love to see a comparison of the good old 6 core Phenom II and the FX.
I had a 1090t at 4ghz before the fx8350. I can't tell you the exact numbers but the fx is definetely much faster, especially in gaming.
@@AngelCPUDD Was the FX stock or overclocked?
@@RATechYT Overclocked, I've never used it stock lmao. Only the first few days to troubleshoot all the issues of using the fx8350 on a 890fx board.
That actually got me interested in buying a 1090T just to see how the FX would compare to it.
I'm running an FX 8350 on an Asus Sabertooth 990FX with two 970's in SLI. CPU is at 4.7GHz and the GPUs are overclocked too. Still great for gaming. Perfect at 1080p, runs most things at 1440p, and some games even run pretty smooth at 4K.
I've been running a FX8350 not overclocked for like 5 years now and don't see a need to upgrade yet. I bought a GTX1060 3gb lately and it's still playing everything I've thrown at it. I've totally been happy with it.
this level of hardware will only get outdated when new consoles are out.
but boy, they'll be outdated FAST. a fx8350 is still faster than what the best console has, so no reason it wouldn't be good, since games are mostly made to run on consoles.
RFD Videos overclock it trust me I just got my fx 8350 overclocked it to 4.8Ghz on a hyper 212 evo temp never exceeds 67 degrees Celsius
I've been using a FX 6300 up to last week when I bought a dirt cheap used 8350. I have it overclocked to 4.4, it was a $40 upgrade that will probably keep me running the latest games at 1080p for at least a year if not more. By the time I need to shell out for a new platform, the prices will have certainly dropped more than $40... What a great upgrade. It's funny that only now is it a truly amazing cpu, back at release it wouldn't fair well with new games because they wouldn't use all cores. I love playing a new game and seeing all 8 cores fully utilized.
Ya gotta definitely upgrade to ryzen or i7 your losing so much performance on fx
I upgraded from a dual core Phenom 2 (unlocked to quad) to an FX 6100 to an FX 6300. I ran many benchmarks on the FX 6100 then the same ones after swapping in the FX 6300. Performance boost was 15% to 20% in everything except HEVC encoding. That scored a pitiful 1 FPS increase, from an average of 17 up to an average of 18.
More disappointing was how there was absolutely no change at all in the 'performance' of the PCSX2 emulator. Apparently the stable release version (that hasn't been updated in a looooong time) is just that bad. Hello slideshow my old friend. I'd tried it with the Phenom II with a GeForce 9800 GT 1gb, then with the FX 6100 and 9800, followed by that CPU and the GTX 1050 4gb I have now. None of those upgrades made the emulator one iota faster.
@@greggv8 yea on benchmarks from fx 6300 @4.6 ghz fx 8350 @5ghz fx 8370e at 4.8 ghz were nowhere close to the i7 4770k 4790k. Even with the same video card in the system
@@greggv8 either way probably new ryzen maybe better which isnt a bad thing. I went from AMD to Intel to AMD for a little bit again and back to intel.. just barely ever AMD video cards.. I tried some but just never came close to nvidia
Where did you get FX 8350 for 40 bucks?
What??? Someone saying something nice about FX 8350???? *Gasp
Saintbow I’m surprised, it gets a lot of unnecessary hate.
Because it is on D3D11 not 12.
@@EvilTurkeySlices I still have my fx8350 @ stock, 3gb sapphire radeon 7970, 16gb ddr3 1866mhz ram, 120gb samsung 840 pro, 250gb samsung 840 pro, 1tb western digital black hdd and overall the system still runs most titles in 1080P flawlessly.
Sadly with my asus m5a97 r2.0 motherobard I cannot oc when all 8 cores are active, but its still good enough.
For older titles that actually are demanding and ipc bound I shut off 4 cores and can oc it to 4.6ghz. I wonder if I could get 500mhz if I had a better board.
ikr i love fx series
@Atoms Molecules Heyyyy. I'm an Intel Soyboy but I think this chip is fantastic :'(
Its winter and AMD Build keeps your bedroom warm@
My AMD fx8320 runs at 10-50C in winter, on the other hand my AMD r280x runs at 60-110C
You should tear down your 280x and replace the thermal compound, at full load my 7970 ghz edition never breaches 78c.
@@neavo8421 Already done that, Radeon AMD R9 280x are known to be faulty. plays.tv/video/5a357b5c8d24b02b45/amd-last-words?from=user
Those new i7's and i9's can warm up the place too 🤣
Running the same cpu slightly OC to 5GHZ on closed loop. It's been good to me but it just emits too much heat, my room is very hot when the PC is running. It's lasted me forever this build, but unfortunately I won't be going forward with the new generation. It's already hot as balls here in Australia and I don't need another heater inside my room. I don't want to forced to run the aircon all the time I'm playing..
I still game on my FX-8150 the most out of my setups. Great Video!!!
I am still running a FX-8350. To be honest, i just built this PC in 2017 and am totally happy with it. Even my RX580 might be overkill, rarely ever see GPU usage over 50%. But it runs all the games i tested really well.
If you want to test overclocking, go for a board that lists the 9590 as supported CPU. That means, it will have at least 220W VRMs, and give you around 100W of headroom on the 8350.
Also don't even start with the CPU clock. The bandwith of those chips is mostly held back by the HyperTransport link. If you get a board with 980 or 990 chipset, oveclock the HT multiplier to at least 2400 or 2600 MHz, make sure it is set to 16bit, and push the northbridge clock as far as you can. After that, go for highest possible CPU multiplier. I can push my 8350 to 4.8GHz at 1.4V, using a 240mm AiO. 1.4V sounds like a lot, but the 8350 runs at above 1.33V at stock.
Also, the AM3 platform loves fast RAM almost as much as Ryzen, so if possible, you should try 2400MHz or faster DDR3.
Yeah, publishing this video without overclocking is pretty lame tbh. The FX series were all great overclockers.
@@jttech44 I would not say it is lame. He did a good job at showing the base performance. And i would prefer a real in-depth look at overclocking over just a short mention. This is a topic that deserves it's own episode i think.
And there are people like me, who run their system mostly at stock all the time. I have played around a bit to see how far i can push it, but then i set everything back to stock for everyday use. Why? Because i want to enjoy this PC for many years to come, and don't want to risk degrading my CPU or chipset just for 20% more performance. And i also enjoy how silent the PC is right now. Pushing the CPU would mean a lot more heat, more fan noise.
It is hard to buy 2400 DDR3 nowadays man. It's kinda late
@@Rhamboll www.alternate.de/html/listings/1461654670739?lk=8269&hideFilter=false
It is a german shop, but they still have a lot of 2133 and 2400 DDR3. And i am pretty sure you can find some locally, too.
@@Rhamboll ebay has plenty last i looked.
That's my exact setup. Works fine.
mine too, except the adata is a 240gb and i have half the ram. built it a little over 2 years ago on newegg black friday deals and it's be a 1080p high/ultra champ
@@MrDinokun Well,i also have fx 8350 and gtx 1060 with 6gb but i only have like 30-40 fps in battlefield 1 on medium/high
@Doom Slayer I think you could go up to a GTX 1060 or RX 590
@Doom Slayer because i think your mobo supports it, look for a fx 9590. It's the same as a 8350 but factory clocked to 4.7/5.0ghz turbo. So technically you should be able to overclock your 8350 to 5ghz.
I got one in august for 95 on newegg
@@rupty6573 major bottleneck
I was eager to see overclocking performance tough. On FX CPUs, northbridge and Hyperlink overclock do matter a lot. So, with a decent overclock, things would be quite different :D
A LOT
ftfy :)
That motherboard is dreadful for overclocking. It throttles on the VRM temperature even on hexacore chips as low as 4.3gHz.
@@salamand3r- nothing that a fan being the board doesnt solve hehe
@@AncientGameplays Nah, tried it. Had a Noctua Industrial pointed at the VRM on an open bench, still throttled. That board is just really, really bad.
@@salamand3r- That is harsh mate xD
I still have 2 rigs in the house running the fx (8370 , 8320) both still run any game tossed at them with no issue.
Also love the way you setup the review :)
I'm using this very same chip right now and I can say it's been awesome since 2014
For 1080p gaming and productivity is enough
It's even better for 4K gaming cuz in such high resolution it probably won't even be the limiting factor.
@@CossackHD the old PCI-E standard might be an issue though.
@@CossackHD tried 4k and its not very good
@@CossackHD no that's not how it works at all lol
@@danielkerr4100 that's exactly how it works. Resolution only affects the GPU.
Enable DSR or VSR to get supersampling options and see CPU usage drop significantly when you set your resolution to 4K.
I did that on Q6600 with RX480, it ran Metro Last Light Redux in 4K 30FPS. In 1080p it was about the same (with higher max FPS tho) because the CPU was the limiting factor.
Check out any CPU benchmarks at different resolutions, you'll see how at 4K top intel is much closer to Ryzen, but in 1080p intel may be 30% faster because it's not limited by GPU.
Nice video! I'm still running a FX8320 on 4.5 ghz in a Sabertooth 990FX paired with an ASUS 1070 OC 8Gb. I do Stream a lot and with some games it does start to show its age.
you do have a bottle neck for the 1070 at 4.5 if you use air cooled try 4.6 or more first is to do overvoltage to 120 on air cooled and then simply bump up the overvoltage untill it shuts down the pc then go 2 steps back if it is not stable in OC software do 2 more steps or one bump over voltage keep in mind to save the previous stable OC is saved in the BIOS that way you dont need to do it all agian only load the bios stable settings and tinker from there. You also do need to use prime 95 or similar software to see if it will overheat if it doe's it will be around the 30 minute mark on water and 15 or less on air. BE WARNED OVERCLOCKING CAN HARM YOUR HARDWARE I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR DAMADGED HARDWARE this said it will protect your cpu but the high voltage can still break the cpu like my 9370 did.
@@leeverink32 Highest speed i got it running on was 4.7Ghz with air cooling, I can only do that speed on a few games tho without the cpu going above 65 Celsius.
I used to run a 8350 and 1070. switched to a ryzen 1600x and gained 20-30 fps in bf4 and bf1
Great MOBO. Im running one myself.. its a 990FX Gen 3 R2.0
8320 @ 4.8GHz on water - can get 5GHz but voltage is not worth it - with Sabertooth and 1060 for me. Just upgrading today but amazing it lasted me this long
These are decent CPU's for hosting virtual machines. I had no idea when I bought one but found out once I used it as my home server cpu! Thanks for breaking this down!
I still run my FX-8350 overclocked to 4.5ghz and it runs great with my GTX1060 6GB. Love the review!
If you got decent cooling, motherboard and power supply you can probably push it a lot further.
4,8 is pretty much guranteed on that thing.
@@Luredreier I only have a corsair h55i right now. I got up over 4.7ghz but the loop got over heated after the first benchmark. Eventually will do a custom loop and get over 4.7
Got my FX 8320 Overclocked to 4.4ghz, with 16gb DDR3, and an RX 480 4gb. and still holds up really good, especially in vulkan and DX12, Shadow of the tomb raider on high running mostly above 50fps at all times, dooms always usually above 90-100 up to 170, and wolfenstein II runs beautiful. for Dx12 and Vulkan, with an RX 480 or decent enough GPU, FX still does nicely. Got my FX 8320 not long ago as a gift to replace my aging P55 motherboard that was having lots of issues and shortage problems.
Haha when i started to dive into the overclocking space, i tried to overclock my 8120 as far as i could. Had it on 4.3 GHz fairly stable but i had to soon realize that you should always consider your VRMs. I had a Gigabyte board with 4+1 Phase design and really small heatsinks. After a few weeks my PC made a loud popping noise and it smelled bad. This overclock not only killed my VRMs and my CPU, it killed EVERYTHING in it. Fond memories :D
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i had my fx 8230 on 4.7 ghz for awhile but it didint remove the horrible stuttering i was having so i ran it at stock until i brought a new cpu
@@LarrysUniqueHandle yes, stuttering is a thing even when oc'd.
@@ApexierGS yea but nowadays i have a i3 2120
cus i sold my setup when prices were high
@@LarrysUniqueHandle yea the FX series have dropped in price now the 8 core series sell for $80 and the 6core sells for $50, they use to be $225ish along with the 4690k, but gettng a ryzen 2200, 1300, 1400, 1500, or 2400 or 6600k or 7600k or 8350k (lol upgrading from AMD FX8350 to Intel i3-8350k; look maaa i was smart i upgraded from 8350 to 8350 :P ) would serve you better in terms of future upgrades and less power draw.
I have both FX8350 and 1800x and tested them both in Battlefield V 4k settings max and the 1800x is only around 15 fps better than fx 8350 with a GTX 1080 ti.
1800x = 55-75fps
FX8350 = 45-60fps
Although I know in some other games FX8350 in 4k resolution is struggling because they are not fully utilizing the cpu but with DX12 games FX8350 is still efficient enough. Every game will be in Vulcan and DX12 soon so I still see FX8350 being around for another 2-3 years.
In my conclusion, the FX 8350 is a very underrated CPU!
THanks for sharing. I have Fx8350 with a very old GPU and a 4k monitor. Need to upgrade to either 2070 or 2080 so still doing my research. Comments like your help :)
@@SSchithFoo whar estonianrevel said, or a 1070mini like mine, i run 4k in all the games i play 60fps easy in most at higher then in game max settings :)
clock to 4.5+ and enjoy :)
You can play in 4K with this CPU? That somehow surprises me?
i noticed alot less stutters and hiccups on the newer ryzen system, didnt you
I bought one in 2013. Still in use today.
I remember when I bought an AMD FX 8300 + 16 Gb RAM DDR3 1866 Mhz 2 years ago in order to upgrade my very good old friend Athlon x2 5600. The FX 8300 is still good at this days, I'm running it with an RX 560 and I'm happy with them, I don't want to play everything on Ultra 4k 60fps, just getting that 60 fps on 1080p is enough for me and I do Streams on Twitch with this CPU and 0 problems with that. A great CPU for me. Sooner or later I'll move to Ryzen.
Better be hyped for that move. I came from a FX-8300 and now run a R5 2600X with a GTX 1060 6GB and it handles everything I throw at it. Ryzen is awesome.
@@stripes966 similar upgrade path for me, only difference is GPU (rx580) and the unnecessarily fast NVME drive I got... totally worth the upgrade, everything is so fast and smooth in comparison. I loved my FX 8350, but it was reaching its time to go unfortunately.
I've got a fx8370 paired with a gtx 1070ti. Runs every game at 60 at 1440p. I almost feel like I don't need to upgrade.
lmao u def need an upgrade
you dont.. overclock that bitch
@@zach.ny29 might need it if he needs his rig to eat more power. if its enought for him, i dont see reason to upgrade
Nick Guillaume That’s me but with an Rx 580 8gb.
Fx 8370 @4.9ghz
Rx 580 8gb
32gb Corsair vengeance 2133
240gb San disk ssd
500gb crucial ssd
2tb Seegate
4tb toshiba
10tb seagate
I have no need to upgrade. However I plan on water cooling it.
I plan on pushing the oc to 5.1+ghz.
Ian Simpson I would definitely build something similar. Thank you for the idea sir! What are all of your external HD's holding? Video editing content?
I recently upgraded 2 systems to Ryzen. This left me with 2 older FX systems with R9 270x graphic cards., which I rebuilt in new tempered glass cases (with RGB bling), and gave them to the grandkids. They love them! Way faster than the old dual core systems they where running. win-win.
Thats awesome!!!
When I finally made an AM4 system last year I kept my fx-6300/rx570 build (my first pc) around for my girlfriend to use, and later bought an 8350 from ebay, and a couple ssds to breath some life into it. It's still chugging along and I'm happy with the mileage I've gotten out of the platform.
I still have a machine with one of these cooled by an AIO cooler, 16GB of RAM, and an old RX480 8GB card on a M5A99FX Pro 2.0 Motherboard. While I did bump the CPU to 4.2Ghz, it runs all of my games at 1080p beautifully. I am going to build a Ryzen based machine this year, but I don't feel like I HAVE to.
I built a system for my brother in law using this processor paired with a GTX 960 and 16GB of DDR3. He plays everything at 1080p ~60+ and he streams Netflix on another monitor simultaneous. PUBG prior to the major update was the only game it struggled with but still playable.
NEW SUB HERE !!! the 8350 caught my attention, I myself Still use a OVEN LIKE CPU lol... the hated by most amd 9590... BUT MYSELF i love it still, i use it in the Asus Sabertooth 2.0 board with 32gb ram, i been using it last 4 years, Recently like last week my H100i cooler pump failed me :( after 4 yr use.. i was sad well last night i was skeptic but... i did buy the H50 cooler and was thinking it wasnt gunna work at all.. i was shocked to see it WORKS GREAT and my idle temp is 29c so im not mad :) anyhow with my 9590 im able to run Triple A titles at medium or mixed settings with great FPS , Glad to see people out there still using these powerfull CPUS !! EDIT : I also use 2 R9 290x in crossfire
Yeah, Your comment about " Seeing why Current users feel no pressure to upgrade" is true for me too... Still rockin the 8350, paired with the R9 390... Similar numbers in all of the games you tested. I'm amazed frankly, These newer titles utilizing more than 4 cores, really extends the life of the FX.
damm its same as mine
r9 380 is fine but cores in buldozer share cache witch slows itself down. so you wont see much of a boost with more then 4 cores
me too!
Same experience. I have me and my brother on some FX-8320e chips we got for $90 +$50 rebate on Black Friday like 3 years ago. I have a 390x and he just bought a 580. Nothing we play won't run at near max settings and frame times are generally really smooth... especially on my overclock and tuned system.
Both my kids are on older FX6300 platforms with an old 270 and a new 570 and they also play great for what they do.
I can't believe how well these have aged. They play games of today better than they ever did the games when they came out. It's amazing and a testament to AMDs innovative and forward thinking.
I still use a fx9590 with corsair formula z board with 360mm and 240mm 60mm thick radiators,
With a massive overclock off 5.4ghz with crossfire r9 290x. 1080p gaming ultra setting no problem. 1440p capable to.
My first pc build and will not unbuild it or let it go till dies.
Damn. 5.4GHz
Better than 5.4ghz its stays below 60 degrees.
You realise that the 9590 is just an OC 8350 right?
@@StreetSoulLover still better chips / capability than 8320/50 etc :)
Their cherry picked and tweaked, but yes thay are 8350 chips.
awesome i still have this CPU on my PC and still working good. Thank you and Happy New Year
I still run an FX 8350 + 6GB GTX1060 for my Oculus Rift PC, runs great, I keep trying to tempt myself into a newer CPU setup, but haven't really seen a reason tbh.
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that's usually the case with most hardware these days, games just aren't all the demanding on the hardware anymore, the next "big leap" is raytracing and even that doesn't have much justification for gaming even if it did run well.
I went from an Asus Sabertooth 990FX/ AMD FX 8350 to an Asus TUFB350M/R5 1600X to get an M.2 socket, PCIe gen3 x16 socket and DDR4 speed improvement. I was happy with the Piledriver and just wanted faster NVME drives and DDR4. One week of Ryzen and I only booted the Piledriver to run O/S updates. Everything was so much faster. I can'tsay which component made the difference, but the Package upgrade was terrific.
Good to see someone showing the FX 8350 in an honest light. But for similar price There are better options, there are several Xeon 6 and 8 cores to pick from, i7 2600, i5 3570 - 4570 - 4590, I believe even the Ryzen 3 1200 can be had used pretty cheap with a cheap am4 board and compare in gaming. Then later swap it out for a used Ryzen 5 1600.
i5 3570 user
i got a r7 1700, and a gigabyte gaming wifi 5 x470, and im currently waiting for my case, ram and psu... im just going to get a used 7970 until i can get a 1080
cuz, 1080p gaming it's really good
You’re ignoring how cheap these AM3+ boards are. A z77 board goes for $120+ on its own these days, since you’d really want to overclock both the 2600k and 8350 if you’re gaming in 2018. These am3 boards go for like 100 bucks in COMBO with the 8350.
I found a seller getting rid of 3x FX8150 systems (entire systems) for $60 (total... $20 a piece...). I may have to go drive and get those, move them from his closet he's emptying to mine!
@@theboldfuture2341 Most of the decent AM3+ 970 and 990 boards I see on ebay are ranging from $75 - $150. These will be required to run an FX 8 core and overclock it to a point that will make difference.
I have an fx8350 and gtx970, 16gb ddr3 and play all the games at 1080p details high or more. The only complain is that the cpu runs hot and needs a good cooler
I've been using an FX-8350 for rather heavy gaming since 2013 with no issues... It's survived many hardware upgrades over the years, including two GPUs, RAM, and multiple hard drives, plus the machine is on 24/7, and has been since 2013, restarting only a handful of times per year. All of this, and the stock-speed CPU is still kicking just fine.
Its bad cpu has fx9590 its obsolete and bad performance in games ryzen 9 5900x is way to go
@@ivo3598 Obviously the Ryzen 9 5900x, which is currently less than one year old and $700, is better than an FX-8350, which was $200 eight years ago, lol, but he fact remains that an FX-8350 is still a great value CPU, and I have been getting great performance from it for eight years now.
Still running my 9370 OC to 4.9 cooled with a H115i and 16 gb Gskill Ripjaws DDR3 2133 RAM today, and still have no problems. Video card is a Strix 1080 with a 1920 boost clock and memory clocked to 11200.
So far the only guy speaking good of the fx and its refreshing to see a realistic users look instead of the other reviews where their shooting for above 60 fps on ultra everything which they know the fx can't do
Most reviewers talk about Bintel
@Jonathan Soko Definetly every one is gonna upgrade to ryzen but it's always goofy seeing guys just plug and play a fx cpu at ultra everything knowing the results are gonna garbage just let it die a calm quiet death not beat the crap out of it in its last days you know just feels good to see some positivity for the fx
On an FX 8370 and an R9 390x I hit 200 FPS (Games FPS Cap) on max settings in DooM.
On bo3 Max settings I get 120+FPS.
And regularly get 80fps+ in other games maxed out (only way I play is @ max)
Proof on my old channel at "Ovaen Uploads" and I think there is even one or two videos on this channel.
Jonathan Soko Elaborate...
The cpu cant do cause its crap, jusy saying
A really good video! Best regards
The 8350 was just ahead of it's time.
I'm glad UA-cam recommended this video. I've been an AMD guy for a LONG time and I still use my FX rigs. Glad to see you put it through it's paces! :)
Great video. Loved mine...and now that we have strong multicore/multithread support from a few API's it seems to have held onto enough performance to stay relative. That's really cool to see!
Still using my fx8350 I got years ago. Ive got it on an AIO with a mild overclock, and paired with a gtx1070. Like you said, in 1440p it does alittle better, but Im preparing for the move to Rhyzen. The 8350 will replace the 6300 in my to go pc, so she'll live on
Indeed, time to move on, I used to run the same setup as you and the 8350 does hold back the 1070 rather a lot when i compare it to my 6700k.
Awesome tests. I really like the inclusion of frame-time graphs. Latency is undoubtedly just as important as average FPS.
You popped up on my recommendations and I was surprised!
I don't even have an 8350, I have an 8320. This was when I built my first computer ever and was just throwing on parts I had money for at the time. For years I considered my computer (perhaps laughably) "high-end" since I had spent upwards of 500 bucks on it, more money than I had ever had at the time.
I currently run a 960 ssc with some ram and the 8320. And it's only been this year that I've needed to question getting a new computer (I'm getting one for christmas, just taking a while). Literally I could play everything at or close to 60fps until the most current games came out.. but now my parts are certainly showing their a ge.
Anyways storytime aside, thanks for making this video!
8320 is underclocked 8350, set to 4 gigahertz at 1.35 volts in bios for 8350 performance
Enjoyed your review, thanks. I used an FX 6300 for a few years and before I was able to even consider upgrading platform was forced to replace the motherboard last year. Still being on a very tight budget I recently treated myself to an 8350, and it will still be a few months until I can upgrade cpu. I already know that for me it'll be happy with this rig, but it's heartening to see the overview and opinions of others in similar situations. For now I'm not ruling out a Radeon card since who knows what the market will do in another three months, but the 1060 still seems the apparent best choice (though it kind of sucks how the prices are still pegging back upwards since Christmas).
Nice work! I just upgraded from an FX-8350 to a Ryzen 7 2700 build and while I did see an improvement in gaming, average day to day usage ism't astoundingly different. I also kept my 8350 at stock speeds and undervolted it to 1.275V to keep the CPU and VRM's nice and cool. Really pleased with the mileage I got out of it and it now lives on in a new build for the wife :)
Nice video!
Nice build!
Nice CPU!
Nice GPU!
Naise everything :D
i have a amd fx 8350 for my stuido and its not bad at all
the fx cpus can definitely perform better today than 5-6 years ago... back then most games used only 2 or 4 threads while now many games finally start to use 8 threads.
Better but still poorly.
@@Lancer265 wrong.
ikr it amazing how well fx 9590 does with m.2 drive in pcie slot. it extremely fast
it feels faster then my tr4 1950x for some reason
@@DragonProtector i still use my fx8350 in my second pc and it never struggles with anything... i barely notice any difference when using it compared to my 8700k system
Still rocking mine 8350, holds up really well even today, amd 8350 with 780ti, bloody good setup for 60fps 1080 gaming on nearly max settings
What is really funny is that not only is my old FX8320 still usable, but the Q9550 is as well. My son inherited my FX8320-HD7970 gaming system and loves it, and I wanted to upgrade my wifes' computer that is a Q9550, GTX470, and 8GB DDR2 1066 with an ASUS x38 Workstation motherboard, because I have an extra Ryzen build a customer cancelled. But she insist on keeping it until it is no longer usable and it still works perfect for what she does. Not only that, the Q9550 runs our video management server and saves all our IP camera footage as well as serving as her primary computer.
We hate using landfills, and I think it is a shame how people throw away the old that still works fine. I put old computers to use and reformat often, and I try to dispose of as little as possible. When my son wants an upgrade in a couple years I will turn his computer into a Linux box. This is the kind of review I love to see. Old does not equal bad. It is just a little less efficient, but it can still do the same things.
Preach it brother!
Really nicely edited and produced. I haven't owned an AMD CPU since an Athlon in a laptop at boarding school! Interesting to see what AMD did before Ryzen.
I have an fx 8370 4.5 ghz + 1060 6gb build and I see no reason to upgrade. It runs any game I want to play and is more than fast enough for basic computing.
reading comments like yours make me happy. people appreciating with what they have. tired of people bashing amd fx series.
i have the same CPU + GTX1050TI and 8GB RAM. Good for gaming, but its bootleneck for ARMA 3 :-((
@@KorbenDalasCZ you need more ram, thats why, no bottlenecking there, you literally need more RAM!!!!
same like you but having rx 480 4gb 8 gb, this old guy already been in service for 6 years, buying only with 185 USD (convert with my country currency which is IDR) not gonna lie but fx is getting older and im thinking buying new amd cpu next year (2020).
I got a fx 8350 with a 1060 6gb with 16gb of ram n they’re DDR4
Your test rig is pretty much spot on to mine. Great video.
These FX are performing better now than in the past, in my opinion, because now we have more programs otimizated for more cores. I still use a Phenom II X6 1090T BE since 2010 and the performance is still good until today.
Thanks for this... was thinking about upgrading from an FX 4300 to an 8370 as I have the exact same mobo, and you've convinced me its worth it! At least as a stopgap to my next Ryzen system in 9 months or so!
The thing is, i have a FX 8150 Bulldozer and i can do pretty much everything with it. People are just whiners lol
Even the Core 2 Duo E8600(CPU from 2008) has better single core performance than your FX8150 lol.
@@basshead. yeah so, it lacks a ton of instruction lol can't even run apex legends
I still have an FX 6300, it does the job too, for now
have thought of upgrading, there is a new model out for the 6300, the i3-6300 :P
@@ApexierGS it's a two core, not worth it imo, either ryzen 1200 or i3 8100
@@dizzee2100 lol yes
Fx 6300 is my old cpu.It had 3 cores really which showed up in task manager.Good chip but saw a 30-40fps moving to Intel i5 8th gen.
FX series really is bad. You should upgrade. You have no clue what you are missing out on...
It's a pity you weren't able to get a proper overclocking board. Great video nonetheless!
Overclocking the CPU to 4.7-5.0Ghz, NB to 2600+ and memory to 1866-2133 will squeeze the most out of an FX system. Still won't pair it with anything stronger than a GTX 1060/RX 580 but the frametimes will improve drastically.
I'm putting a 1070 onto this CPU and we'll see how it goes.
my 1070mini pairs well with my 9370, but i do like to push the gpu intensive settings up... warframe and elite dangerous beyond in game max settings at 4k or higher, 60fps outside areas my friends i7 EE chips get the same drops, i wouldnt go above a 1070 or equiv (new gen or amd) but the 1070 dosnt bottleneck as bad as even i expected, hardly at all with threaded titles.
@@AshenTech oh i was talking about 1080p gameplay. Obviously you can pair them with stronger cards at higher resolutions but there's a good chance there will be a small CPU bottleneck at 1080p when using the 1070, although I'm not sure how the mini clocks as compared to a regular 1070.
Did you tune your 9370? They're extremely well binned but at stock settings they're highly inefficient so disabling turbo and manually overclocking gives phenomenal results on that FX
@@aniMEanie01 actually there are multi wys to oc these and gain perf as well as drop power use/heat production, i found this chips more work to lock at 4.7 then to set t 4.5 with a turbo to 4.8, everything else cranked up, and the zotac 1070mini clocks fine, its a very nice card, matches the full size for perf, its a damn nice card.
my 8350 wa s better bin but i gave it to a buddy who was on a 965 but on a mis 970 game board, so, i gifted him and moved to a 9370 i paid nothing for (newegg sent one from NJ and CA, and wouldnt understand that i was trying to give back a dupe they sent..3 days tring to do the right thing, i put it in a drawer...)
i finely got this tuned so its slightly better on average then the 8350 was when i had it fine tuned, and is using a bit less power from the wall then the 8350 was with a locked oc....
In this acceleration, it will be ideally combined with the GTX 1070 level cards.
Great video. I am on the FX - 8320 right now and works ok with the 580. I can push the 8320 to 4.2 with just an air cooler but once the new AMD chips come out this year I will be upgrading the beast finally.
i've been rocking the 8350 for ever.
gonna use it until i can save enough for a r7 2700, 450b and 16gigs of ram, but in the mean time, its been running everything i play well (R6, pubg, gta v. witcher)
im running 8350 with GTX 950 and i keep 60 fps on high-ultra settings with decent temps.
8350 still has its place today.
but the future is not set in stone
youngshadygaming what games do you play because I have an fix 8350 overclocked to 4.8Ghz and a gtx 960 (also overclocked) and a good few games aren’t consistent at 60fps
@@arsenaloptimisthd4171 the bottleneck is northbridge and ram. If you run ram below 1866mhz you bottleneck fx. If you run ram above 2133mhz and leave NB stock, you bottlenecking again. The core frequency is important only if you get min of 1866mhz ram.
Using the FX 8300 with the RX 570. Handles everything I've thrown at it just fine.
I've been wanting to upgrade to a Ryzen for some time now, but it's far from necessary. In the mean time, this system is perfectly suited for playing any game at mid to high settings.
Your cat wants your tech man.
Just retired my AM3+ set up as I found an unbeatable deal on a Z370 upgrade. I loved the 8350. For all it's documented shortcomings that chip overclocked rather easily and performed adequately in mostly everything. It won't stay retired for long though. I'm planning to build it for a friend who is leaning towards getting into PC gaming. Time to convert another one to the fold and let the 8350 at 4.7 OC ride again.
Thanks for the video. I just picked this cpu up to swop out my wife’s current cpu (amd x3 455) and now I’m just shopping videos cards to accompany it. Was leaning towards the rx580 8 gig card. There’s a few on sale at the moment. Cheers!!!
My FX-8350 @ 4,4GHz all cores on AIO still strong today.
Upgrade FX9590 and enermax liqfusion 360 rgb :-)
After upgrading to a Ryzen 5/RX 580 system a few months back, my 8350/R9 280X system is currently living in the lounge hooked up to the TV, I mainly use it for a bit of couch gaming and as a HTPC... after watching this vid I think I might throw a 1060 in there so I can up the settings a bit
i have the FX 8120 overclocked to 4.4 Ghz with 16gb of Ram, and the GTX 1060 6Gb. It runs everything (not at 100% ultra settings but close) and is super stable, but i decided to give my AM3+ one final push so i bought the fx 8350 2 days ago :) Can't wait for it to arrive!
Sweet. I hope to test the difference between the two in the future
a worthy upgrade, clock it to 4.6 and you will love it :) (and if you can get an 8120 to 4.4, 4.6 on th e 8350 should be cake)
thank you so much ive been looking everywhere for a good video on this cpu and honestly this is the best one ive found good work!
Amazing review. My 2013 build has a AMD FX 6350, 16gb of ram, paired with a ASUS GTX 960 and a 240gb ssd plus 1 tb HDD Steam storage.. Triple 27 inch monitors and it does fine for everyday tasks (and gaming). I installed originally with Windows 8. It wasn't great, seemed slow at times, but when getting Windows 10, it changed everything. I planned to upgrade it to an 8350 (like a year ago) but there isn't really any point and I just rather save the money for a Ryzen build anyways. Still though if you don't have the money now and need a great PC, the 6350/8350 are probably the place to look at, at least for budget builds. The FX series is still amazing to this day.
Just did my own 2019 gaming benchmarks/tests on my brother's FX-8350/980ti rig. Was plenty surprised at a few of the results for sure! Had the same issue with a similar Asrock mobo too though haha (970 Extreme4)
A good video, and I'm sorry to ask this question, but in several places you mentioned that the CPU was holding the GPU back. but the screenshots and gameplay that you were showing have the GPU at 95 to 100% usage while the CPU was in the 50 to 75% usage. That more represents a GPU bottleneck if I'm not mistaken. And you'll have to forgive me for asking this question but with the greatest game of all time, fallout 76, hahaha, I have personally found that I'm having stutter because of it's always online state. I experienced many of the same stutter issues as you did, even though I have a 6800 k, 16 gigs of 3200 megahertz ram, and a GTX 1080. but again I really like your videos please don't take this as an indictment these are just questions that I had hope to hear response thanks 😀
Finally! Someone that’s actually respectful. 😉 let me put it to you this way. The GTX 1060 is capable of producing higher frame rates on a more capable system. Kind of like a 9900K will out perform the 2700x at 1080p with both using a GTX 1080Ti. If Both systems see 100% GPU utilization, the 9900K system will still perform better. This is a similar case here. While some games will see 100% GPU utilization, the 1060 is still being held back. Some of these games will not take advantage of all 8 threads, so you’ll never see cpu usage at 100%. Sorry if it doesn’t make sense, still trying to figure out the best way to explain it. Edit* the different isn’t very large, but there is a slight difference.
I also play FO76 on a similar system, 5820K @ 4GHz, 16GB 3000MHz and this same GTX 1060. I do run into frame latency issues, but nowhere near this bad. Spike of up 500ms is game stopping. I’ve seen them up to 100ms on my system, which isn’t great, but again nothing like the FX system.
@@F2FTech thanks for the clarification. It did not occur to me to take into account the number of threads being taxed. As an avid car Guy I should have actually thought about that because a 350 horsepower v8 is working much less to produce it's power than a 350 horsepower 4 cylinder. Weird comparison I admit, but it's how my brain makes sense of it. I appreciate you taking the time to respond and I enjoy all of your videos.
"[...]Both systems will see 100% GPU utilization[...]" This not true, in many videos you can see clearly that the Intel CPUs have more fps and gpu usage, because the CPU can extract more power from the GPU. When the GPU reaches 100% use it's already using all of the power it has, it was GPU bottleneck in this video. Sorry for bad english.
Sorry, I fixed up my wording. I’ll do some testing later and follow here up to show you what I’m talking about.
Alright, sorry if it sounded rude, great video btw, its still a very good cpu.
Really Great Video Man!
I have been rocking the 8350 black edition since launch-late 2012. I have been using a windforce 280x 4gb. It's been pretty good. ARMA III is a game that runs horrible on this CPU. I am been wanting to upgrade to a new PC but I have been really not needing it. I don't play alot of AAA games. You inspired me to maybe get a new GPU and mess around with overclocking the CPU. I recently bought a good overclocking motherboard. I have heard you can get some pretty significant clock increases with the 8350 black edition.
Cheers dude.
I still rock the FX-4100 and now have been rocking the GTX 950, and I have no issues playing just about any AAA title on ultra or high settings at 1080. If I had the money to upgrade my PC, I would either go with the FX-8350 and an RX 570 or upgrade to a Ryzen 5 with a new mobo. Otherwise unless my computer craps out and can no longer play MMOs, I'll keep rocking what I've got until I can afford an upgrade.
I think the 8350 has aged quite well! I had one for a while that did a good job, but I now have some Ryzen systems that are amazing.
I stil use this cpu paired with an rtx 2070 and it destroys vr games and plays 4k like a dream. i didn't even consider it to be "old" until i realised I've had it since 2012
Tom Gough you should upgrade your cpu man,that shit is probably bottlenecking
I thought I was one to the rare fellas to use a GTX 1660 with a FX 8350 (which is why I came to which video) but then I met you.
8350 + 2070 super and as much as i want to upgrade for the sake of it... lol its just fine as it is
@D1stRU3T0R #AMD If by fine you mean 60% GPU usage at best most of the time then you're right
Not all games are Vulkan
@D1stRU3T0R #AMD I dunno, even at 4K in many games the FX family can't saturate even half a 2080Ti (I watched a video lol)
obligatory "unless it's vulkan" but even with vulkan...that IPC doesn't amount to much - the new Ryzen 3100 and 3300X quad cores have considerably more raw performance than the most powerful FX chips
I was cleaning my fx build and i was re installing the CPU but had my cat's hair in it's pins I had a heart attack trying to remove it😂
YES! do a phenom II x6 :-)
my mobile gaming/battle station is a converted X4 into a X6!
Yuck. Even the FX 6300 Black I had was garbage. Doubled fps in games when I switched to an i7 6700k. Ryzen wasn't available when I switched...
For an Athalon X4 880K here, it's served me well but I'ma let it retire for now in favour of a Ryzen 5 2600X, might make a server out of the little guy later
What a fantastic bump in views! Damn xD
This processor also spreads its wings in any dx12/vulkan titles. Doom was running at 90-120 fps with dx11, and when I turned on Vulkan, it shot up to 220 fps.
This video was crazy informative. Felt completely filled in and not in the slightest dragged out, amazing coherence throughout all of it as well. Earned a sub boi!
Much appreciated
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This isn't super surprising. This CPU is more or less what the consoles use and they do fine in these games.
Consoles are powered by APU's and they are able to run games well because every console is the same so it only needs to be designed once. Every PC is different so the game has to be made to work on a ton more hardware.
That's actually half true. Yes, PC has "tons" of hardware but they share one common API. It can either be Direct X or Open API like Vulkan. There are common misconceptions that developers need to design or program for individual hardware. That can't be further from truth. On PC, it is unified under common standard. What's different about PC to console is, the optimization of visual/performance. On console, it is handled by developers. On the PC, both developers and users are responsible.
@@adryerwithabrickinit9231 I guess i was being to broad in my statement. While yes the consoles use a APU. The APU is just CPU cores and GPU compute units on the same silicon. Now the CPU portion of the consoles use a Jaguar core which is just a variation of the same CPU architecture as the 8350 Vishera or its other relative Kaveri. Although the Jaguar is actually lower powered and lower performing. As for optimization, yes the games run closer to the silicon buts its not so different from Vulkan, DX12 or Mantle. Much like what Koizumi said. So again its not really crazy that the 8350 is still valid at gaming but of course in the PC world it is weak.
@@hkoizumi3134 what he means is that if the hardware is fixed, they can set better render targets, and over time, optimize techniques to extract more out of that hardware. it's true and it'll always be true, no matter the generation or how easy it is to program.
it's like racing. Doesn't matter how good a driver you are, your first laps are never going to be your best. if you do it over and over on the same track you'll gradually master it down to perfection. But if you keep changing tracks every 10 minutes you'll have a hard time racing against someone with more focus than you.
dunno how relatable that is to people who don't race.
ps: also consoles have lower level access to hardware, so they'll perform a bit better than equivalent pc hardware. just don't expect miracles from this advantage.
@@drizzlebizzle Nope. The Jaguar cores use din modern consoles are successors to the bobcat design from 2007. Jaguar's arch was being tested before the construction core released. Jaguar is to construction core as core 2 is to netburst.
LOL this was exactly my system (except for the fans and case) one month ago, it served me well this 4 years I had it.
Since I had a computer with an AM3+ socket for the CPU, it was really hard for me to find a good one to use. This video actually got me to buy the FX-8350, simply because it was informative about its performance, and how you said you were surprised that it works as well as it did. So now I have an FX-8350 and ready to go gaming again.
How the gaming im in the sitution as you with a am3
Great video!! Subbed! I still use my Fx8350 with a Gtx 1080ti and its fine at 4k ! I will need to upgrade but it wasn't something i had to do which is amazing!
I had the exact same setup until upgrading to a Ryzen 2700x. You will definitely be able to turn the graphic settings up after upgrading the CPU but the FX-8350 is a nice processor. I had it for 6 years and I will be using it in an arcade project soon.
Funny, my 970 gtx sli build was bottlenecked by this cpu unless I over clocked it lol which I did, and had some awesome gains
@@ChrisVog if you play in 4k it won't bottleneck you can tell because it won't stutter anymore just like pairing a Pentium g4560 and a gtx 1080 ti it stutters and the fps is very unstable but when you put it to 4k the fps is stable and doesn't stutter anymore
I thought I had tripped. The moment I laid down next to my Siamese linx point kitty, the scene with the cat rubbing on the computer popped up. Needless to say I freaked out cause I thought I was seeing a live feed of my cat.
Considering the reputation these have, it really did a lot better than I would have thought. I've been seeing very good deals on complete 8350 setups which would make for a great budget build with a second hand 1060/570/580 as you've shown. Having said that , I'm very curious to how a Sandy/Ivy i5 would compare, especially looking at frame times and their easy OC ability compared to FX.
FX is super easy to overclock, that's why it still holds the world record for highest overclock ever achieved (ridiculously close to 9 Ghz). It just starts eating an enormous amount of power, just like the modern Intel chips.
Actually, I take that back, Intel currently pulls insane amounts of power compared to FX. The 7980XE easily pulls 600w on water... I would need about 1.8 Vcore on FX to do the same, and probably need liquid nitrogen to do safely (I don't think my phase cooler at -25c under load would be enough). Even the 32 core/64 thread TR 2990WX has a hard time pulling the same power as the 18c/36t Intel chip, its getting ridiculous with even the 8 core pulling around 250w...
The AMD FX chips are crazy easy to overclock and have huge OC potential. Like the other commenter said, the world OC record to this day is still an FX CPU.
DellChannel21 I’m selling an fx 8350 build with water cooling, an rx 570 and 8gb of ram at 1600 MHz if you’re interested.
I'm still using an FX8350 to this day. I have a 3 monitor setup and I have a Rift S that I VR game on. Some CPU intensive games will have some stuttering if you're watching a twitch stream on another monitor but bumping that OC up to 4.5Ghz takes care of the problem.
It's definitely a CPU that to this day still works "well enough". I haven't come across anything that I can't play yet and most things I still play at high settings with the exception of shadows. I've been thinking of upgrading for a few years now but I keep talking myself out of it because there isn't an actual need to upgrade.
I own the 8350 cpu, water cooled with three gtx 660-ti's in sli . All of it on an home made open chassis mounted on the wall .. Yes its old but it still works great... Love your CAT .. Happy Holidays !
Thank you and same to you!