2021 VW Golf R MK8: A Love/Hate Relationship - Full Review!
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- Опубліковано 12 тра 2021
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A big welcome to VW to the channel for the first time! You know I’m always a happy boy when a new manufacturer appears on the channel! And this one has some interesting history… even linked to Nazi Germany!
The Golf R is the benchmark for many in the hot hatch division as a bang for buck car, it’s so popular in the UK that the MK7 is one of the most stolen cars on the road!
This new one is gunning for its rivals even in the hatch class above, with 316BHP and 420NM now from the EA888, though a slightly slower 0-60 of 4.7… is it really? Wait and see. ;)
DSG is still here which is great, and bigger brakes than the old car BUT the big change is a newly developed four-wheel drive system with selective wheel torque control on the rear axle, called 4MOTION with R-Performance Torque Vectoring.
Translated: this is able to send 100% power to the outside wheel, and thus… drift mode in Golf R. You’ve heard this before from the A45s and the Focus. This should help neutralise understeer and promote a RWD feeling. VS the normal 8, it’s 20mm lower, and uses a more rigid and lighter aluminium front subframe. Theres also a vehicle dynamics manager, that optimises handling by nannying the electronic functions like that XDS, or DCC.
The R is only available in 5 doors and automatic now, Performance Pack Available with 19 inch rims seen here, a big wing too, and two extra driving modes of Special and Drift, that i’ll discuss in the video. £700 will get you adaptive suspension, and £3000 for an akrapovic exhaust system, are better spent than the perf pack in my opinion.
But today we will also explore the Origins of VW. Volks, or Peoples, was a word used often for state funded product in Nazi Germany. Hitler wanted an affordable car priced the same as a typical motor cycle for the Germany and thus unsurprisingly the Volkswagen or peoples car, name was given.
The actual concept of the first VW however came from the mind of someone we’ve had on the channel previously to do with car history: the first Ferdinand Porsche. And while he designed it, and Nazi’s originally planned it, the TRUE origin and credit for the current existence of VW must go to British Major Ivan Hirst. Watch the video to learn more! :)
After this I’ll dive into every generation of the Golf and what they brought to the table to create the “golf class”, all the way from MK1 to present day!
And then driving the new R, a car that’s supposedly slower than the Mark 7… but is it? Today we explore:
- Origins and History of VW
- Hitler, Ferdinand Porsche and Major Ivan Hurst
- Car designer Giorgetto Giugiaro
- MK1 and GTi
- MK2 Golf
- MK3 Golf
- MK4 Golf and R32
- MK5 Golf and R32
- MK6 Golf R
- MK 7.5 Golf R
- New Golf MK8
- Golf R 8
- Exterior Design
- Interior review
- Golf 8 vs Golf 7
- Golf R MK8 Launch Control - how?
- Full road test
- Conclusion
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I love getting a new manufacturer on the channel! Especially one with deep history like VW! 👌🏽 What else would you like see on the channel from the brand? Let me know and enjoy the R: it’s a ripper!! 🔥
Great review as always 👏 ..... would you get the Golf R over the Merc A45s?
Great video 👍, spotted a little error though, the first 4wd golf was the Golf Rallye, built for the group A rally. Only 5,000 ever to be put in the planet
Tiguan R next
Please the Arteon R Shooting Brake :) as one of the last of his kind!
Do you ever do retro reviews, on cars that popular 7-10 years ago? Eg ...hot hatch Cars that are affordable now...eg rs3 8p.
"Over 45 years" of not just VW Golfs, but the work behind the special effects as well
Missed out the 7 tho
Buttons and knobs need to make a big come back in cars....
Whose big idea was it to get rid of them in the first place? Some pencil pushing geek looking to cut cost? Certainly not the consumers. I have yet to read a single comment or hear a single review where anybody prefers them. They certainly don't make driving safer or easier. If anything, just the opposite.
dude.. its so ridiculous. I feel like I got the perfect GTI. 2017 right before the facelift. I have a tangible speedometer! No freaking lcd screen in my dash. idk why that's popular tbh
I am praying. lol
Absolutely, well said.
Has manufacture not learn from their mistakes?
Hell, for a while Honda got rid of the volume button and people raised hell and then they brought it back; what makes VW think it was a good idea to remove them on the steering wheel all together
I have watched dozens of reviews on the MK8R and this is by far, thee best and most thorough review I have seen of it. Very well done.
What a great review! Honest and to the point. Had the balls to say what didn’t work or felt needed improvement without fear of pissing the manufacture off but praised the good bits without arse diving. Subscribed!
Not overly harsh or critical in that regard either. Some reviewers go so hard on the interior that you would think it stops you from driving it, and would make them send a £40,000 car to the scrapyard. "UGH. Touch buttons!!!"
still own a mk4 r32 and I LOOOOve the sound of the VR6
I still own a mk7 golf R and I looove the sound of your VR6
Love my Mk3 VR and Mk5 R32, I'd love a Mk4 but as above they're rare in Australia.
I have a mk6 R and I love it. I wish it sounded cooler
my man! 16 years and 205,000 miles later and im still ticking. Were married at this point.
I'm the original owner of a 2004 GTI VR6. A solid car. Although, your R32 is the collectors item.
Saw this on a random device, came back just to comment on what a great job you did on this. As a GTI owner over decades and generations I truly enjoyed your works thank you.
I love this guy so much! He does PROPER history, even for people who doesn't know anything about cars! Absolutely AMAZING!!
He’s has the best formula
This channel deserve million subscribers
Jeez.. I didn’t realise it didn’t have millions of subscribers! Certainly deserves it 🥇
Tell all your friends to subscribe.
Quite simply one the best car reviews I have ever seen. New sub without a doubt. Mega work!
Great video, I learned a lot! Just one thing, first AWD Golf was the Mk2 (not Mk4) with the Syncro, there was also a Mk3 VR6 Syncro for European market. I'm so glad you used the shortcut for ESC as not many reviewers have found that. With regards to Lane Assist, there is a button on the end of the left hand stalk to go straight to the option to disable it. The VW logo redesign was so it could be more easily reproduced digitially. As a Mk8 owner for 2.5 months, I have no issues with the steering wheel button operation, sure it took a few days to not press things in error but now I'd never go back to tradtional buttons, swiping up and down audio volume for example is brilliant.
MK8 review finally starts at 12:30 Drive happens at 27:30
thanks man! I really appreciate it!
Thanks, the video is good, but I came for a car
Review, not a history lesson
Good lawd too much filler and ads
Thanks a lot
Way too much unnecessary filler and ads in this "review"
Man you're one of the gems automotive journalism has ever seen
Only 3 to 4 out there currently and you're one of them
Marvelous work, keep it up
You are not only a reviewer you are a teacher for us also.Thanks for the clear explaination.
Buttons and knobs must come back! These touch and greasy screens that need touching several times same function are dangerous and must be illegal because distract attention from the road!
Mr. AMG reviewing a car I can actually afford... it is a good day.
This channel....spot on! The very best i have seen so far. Historical, good in detail, explanation and understandable. BBC should make a international tv series of it.
FANTASTIC Golf R review. Best one I've seen so far.
Huge fan of your work. I love the history, so important to every car. There has to be an overlap between Golf fans and Porsche fans, the desire for things to be the same, but different, but freaking out over small changes.
Dude you’re editing is an example of a 250k subscriber channel working like a multimillion subscriber channel, the editing is awesome keep it up!!
That was BY FAR the best mk8 R review I've seen . 👍
The shape has really grown on me. Looks better in real life. I saw a GTI in a beautiful silver. Very nice.
One of the best car reviewers. A great deal of content and top editing. I think the Mk8 gets a lot of negative press but I feel you've definitely given a more balanced view. VW have a winning formula 👌
Fantastic mature review with excellent graphics. Really appreciate your work. Thanks.
Of course the car is beautiful, and state of the art. However, being older, and driving a 2019 GTI 7.5, I certainly would miss the manual controls. Too many touch screen controls takes your eyes off the road too often. Great video, thanks. RickGTI……
I just stumbled on your channel and I thought this review was going to be like all of the others. I was pleasantly surprised that it was not. I'm a VW affectionaldo and I found your review very interesting and informative. Nice job!
I'm on VW# 6 waiting for the R to arrive here in the US.
i cant wait to test drive it! i am curious as to what the touch/buttons feel like.
i grew up with golfs. my family had a mk2 and mk3 that i learned to drive in. classic cars i will always love
Love these informative reviews with a dash of history thrown in. good stuff!
Just love the example of the R now. I had a 5 and what a change.
The info delivered is beyond amazing
I almost got a regular GTI a few years back when I first started my current job, but was a bit short on money. I think this time it's time to go big with the R and this video definitely pushed me in that direction.
So much knowledge of history and carmaking, this is awesome, I wish you 20 million subscribers ;)
The editing is top notch!
Thank you for sharing the history of the brand.
Great test ! I'm even starting to like the front end ! Greetings from a Golf R (2016) owner in Australia
Respect for the work you put in your videos, eid Mubarak 🙏🏽🎊
Really enjoyed that !! Great video. Definitely gonna consider the Mark 8
Great vid. Got a ridge thanks to your recommendation a few vids back 👍
Wow the editing on this is unmatched... better than most BBC productions.
The editing tho is on point.👏🏼
The definitive golf r review! Chapeau.
Nice video good knowledge and history Of the VW I have been buying VW for last 20 year now have the MK 8
Love it brilliant
I like the review format on this, looking to get a contract hire R next, got a 290 Cupra ATM.
Thanks for the content and I've subscribed buddy! 👍👌
@Remove Before Race Top notch video! Your selection of talking points were on point. I never knew about the Mercedes Beetle or that the first golf was a Giorgetto Giugiaro car. Also, your breakdown of each generations history was nice and brief without any poetic nonsense. I’m glad I found another quality automotive channel.
That timeline presentation was gold. But I’ll keep my 2018 Golf R till MK9 comes out.
That is without doubt the most thorough
Review anyone has ever done on any golf. Let alone the MK8. I have a TCR.
And have had two golf R but the price of these are a big jump over the previous
Models.
Just discovered the channel. What quality!
First time watching your video 👍👍 I already love it the editing is perfect.
“it reminds me of 911” i was not expecting that😂😂
He is referring to Porsche 911
@@ericcampbell3365 ik, it was just funny. he always removes the “the” when referring to specific models
@@aerodynechambersYes. I enjoy all his reviews. Very solid in his delivery. Thanks for the reply.
He is referring to 9:11PM
@@toooes i think he meant its like calling 911
The MK7.5 is pinnacle Golf imo. Not just styling, but the fact they perfected the R formula and made a daily car that even after a decade of being released (MK7 platform) , is still one of the best all round cars money can buy. What a thing 😍
The 7.5 is not even 5 years old (March 2017)
And yes youre right , 7.5 beats 8 in every aspect (Looks)
@@user-tx9ko4mm1t wow so next month.... which means it technically is a 5 year old design 🤦♂️😂
Carwow timed it at 3.9sec to 60, also a few companies have had it on a rolling road giving 340bhp.
They timed it at 4.03 seconds 👍
the intro special effect is awesome!
You deserve much more followers than you have. Your videos are excellent!!
How come you don't have a million subs.. Great content.. Keep it up
That rear diff is the most compelling thing about it, though I won't give up my S3 for it. I hate the touch controls. Need real buttons for HVAC and Volume at least. I never play with all the gadgets. Make the car work great out of the box and I don't need all that personalization of the electronics. When will they learn that all they need is a screen and an amp for our phones? Our phones will always be more up to date than any car.
The MK 5/6 was the best of all the generations. I hope VW looks to the 5/6 for the MK9 design when it is developed.
the mk7 was underrated as well. She did 4.3 stock all day long (DSG).
Exactly.....
Huh?? 4.3?????
@@DeniJasmina Yes, it was done by a car magazine test
@@backseatdriver8902 haven't seen a stock mk7 r keep up with a mk8 r yet...
It wins easily everytime!
How did I just now find this channel? Well done!
nice video mate, well done !
I really love the history portion, but would it be possible to flash the dates on-screen somewhere? Like a quick 1980-1986 to give us context while you speak.
Having no physical volume/power or AC controls is unacceptable & an example of hubris from out of touch enginerds & stupid focus groups.
I completely agree. Developed by people who have no idea what a driving enthusiast wants and needs.
It’s Definitely the biggest drawback from mk7 to mk8. It’s happening across manufacturers and I hate that they over engineer economy cars. These are vws... I don’t want to pay for these interior touch controls and led headlights/taillights . Not everyone likes them and I certainly don’t want to pay the premium for them.
I like to keep my cars and I do my own maintenance/repairs. LED headlamps are expensive to replace...can’t imagine also replacing the lcd gauge clusters and the touchscreen.
Needle gauges should never leave the ICE vehicles interior. I Recently Had a rental car, a turbo Honda accord with the lcd gauge, and it felt Sluggish in response and it was lame looking.
Hubris indeed. Cars costing more and more. Repairs costing more and more.
@@jo8737 pretty sure it’s actually cheaper for them to implement touch screens over actual buttons and dials..
The previous Mk7 interior was FAR superior ! Bring on the Golf R Mk9 ! (everyone knows the odd numbers are best in these cars)
Mk 5 Was the worst golf ever from Looks
@@user-tx9ko4mm1t but it was one of the most technological advanced jump in engine technology in the lineup. TFSI . Agree on the shabby looks tho
That spec makes it look good
very detailed review but does seem a little odd to have to wait 27 minutes before you actually drive the car and then there's less than 10 minutes left of the video
When is the c63 black video coming out?? I’m super excited for it !!
Just purchased a 2023 Golf R 20th anniversary edition with the 6-speed manual which is only available in North America. The best of all worlds! And every other option, including the DCC. Nirvana!
VW really mops the floor with the competition in terms of performance. Still ordered an M135i coming from a Golf Variant GTD, because I don't like the MK8 software and cockpit, also the quality of the interior isn't up to par. Really curious how the other manufacturers will respond.
Good video, really enjoyed it even though I know my M135i is outperformed by the new Golf R.
Good review.
Was going back and forth between this and the Mach One Mustang. Finally, settled on the manual Mach One.
Amazing graphics... great content. 👍🇬🇧
Aweaome review, that slam on the trunk lid though. 😭😭
Never been a golf fan .. But this here looks very good, I would consider buying one of these if I was in for a hatch for sure.
great review!!
Hey RBR, thanks to your video im going to order one. Whats your take on the cloth seats ?
Great upload 🙌
A DSG MK4 R32: now that’s one I want for the garage.
Amazing review yet again ..
That graffic was so cool
Great in depth overview of a cracking car! 👍😁
Great content!
My VW Corrado 2.0 16V 94M had the same engine as the Golf GTI mk3 16V. I loved my Passat 1.8T Sport 99T&Passat 1.9TDI 130bhp SE 4 motion 03 as they were based on the Audi A4 with Longitudinal engines.
This golf looks so good, a white body with ocean blue calipers :O
Nice review. But makes me love my manual mk5 gti all the more.
Terrific review. So much relevant detail. Shame about the lack of buttons and no back light on touch buttons for climate control.
Excellent review!
MK7 R is the best ever made, the MK8 is externally beautiful. Internally I don't like everything about it. It looks boring and dull. Touch button concept isn't practical on the steering; especially on temperature adjustments and also they don't illuminate at night. Overall great review 👌🏽
New to your channel and very much enjoying it. Love my 7.5...
First time I find the 8 good looking since it came out.
Pumped that they dropped the Haldex
MK3 Golf already had a V6 engine with 4 wheel drive in the VR6 Synchro that was used in the Golf als in the Corrado. This was the VR6 2.9 litre engine.
Excellent video !!
They really got all the same cars but different years in the exact same spot that's so cool
looks just as good as the Mk7 to me, I like them both.
Of course, this Golf R will upshift for you since it doesn't have the performance pack. You can tell by the smaller rear wing that it's the "regular" R. The performance pack version won't automatically upshift for you and you can redline it to your heart's content.
Yeah, but I'm not paying £2000 for the pleasure! I'll wait until it's been jailbroken and get someone to open it up for pennies.
That's what he said in the video.
You think it drives better compared to the CLA 35? 😬
Nice editing man.
Beauty, great review
It's becoming a new trend for car makers to understate performance figures
So your personal impression would be even better, silently compelling you to buy on it
Looks sooooooper stunning
Definitely not a sleeper in my place
Would turn pretty much every heads around especially at night for it's facia and lighting
Brilliant review 👍👌
Looks amazing 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Which would you have the new golf r or bmw 340i??