VW Golf 8 GTI FULL REVIEW - driving the Mk8 Golf GTI 2021 - Autogefühl

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  • @autogefuehl
    @autogefuehl  4 роки тому +17

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    • @gregparker9272
      @gregparker9272 4 роки тому

      Release date ?

    • @reececommander
      @reececommander 4 роки тому

      Where do I get some Autogefuhl merch

    • @Siege614
      @Siege614 4 роки тому

      They should just make a law that says every car should have a volume knob and climate controls that are separate from the infotainment unit with knobs as well. I am okay with the recent trend to move to digital gauges as long as they dont make them like BMW but the overuse of touch controls has to stop! Also the old VW badge was much better then the new one.

  • @vomErsten
    @vomErsten 4 роки тому +498

    "The control of capacitive buttons on the steering wheel is just bollocks."
    And there you have it, automakers! Even the most gentle car reviewer on UA-cam hates it enough to be blunt about it, so please stop! :D

    • @vomErsten
      @vomErsten 4 роки тому +9

      @ufster81 The point of the Mk. 8 is to reduce costs over the Mk. 7 so cash can be freed up to continue investing in EVs; VW's job was to try and spin that reality as an upgrade to the consumer and what better way to do that than with inexpensive whizz-bang tech features like LCD screens and capacitive buttons? Fewer parts, less machining, less to break.
      I am pretty sure the next gen ID3 will be folded back into the Golf brand to give us the Mk. 9.

    • @vomErsten
      @vomErsten 4 роки тому +9

      @ufster81 I think the Mk. 8 already is essentially a Mk. 7.75; the underlying platform is barely touched, the engines are barely touched, so it was basically just an exercise to reduce production costs of the interior and exterior elements. Did they even have to re-certify any of these powertrains for emissions?

    • @kenyajohnson3171
      @kenyajohnson3171 4 роки тому +7

      I decided after driving a Tesla Model S that I’ll never ever buy a car that is too touch screen dependent for its controls.

    • @davidcohas7951
      @davidcohas7951 4 роки тому

      Same buttons on ID3 steering... are they really that bad???

    • @vomErsten
      @vomErsten 4 роки тому +2

      @The Catmother Nah, VW had no idea a recession was coming and the development cycle for cars is too long for them to have prepared the Golf Mk. 8 for this COVID-induced event. Besides, they aren't reducing the price of the Golf for the consumer, they are reducing the price for them to build it because they need to squeeze as much profit as possible to fund their EV developments and their Dieselgate fines.

  • @autogefuehl
    @autogefuehl  4 роки тому +132

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    • @gregparker9272
      @gregparker9272 4 роки тому

      Release date

    • @ntube7
      @ntube7 4 роки тому +1

      So you are saying VW give you car to review on the condition that your review will be generally favourable? Of course you will mention a few bad points, but perhaps inflate the good points as a thanks for them lending you the car?

  • @iansneddon74
    @iansneddon74 4 роки тому +207

    9:01 Thomas says "Bollocks" and therefore becomes an honourary Brit👏

    • @lozzamanuk
      @lozzamanuk 4 роки тому +5

      He's right though. You can't find capacitive buttons by feel.

    • @lastnamefirstname520
      @lastnamefirstname520 4 роки тому

      He’d need a visa for that because he is from the EU

    • @howardnoble7289
      @howardnoble7289 4 роки тому

      Absobloodylutely

    • @davebridge5580
      @davebridge5580 4 роки тому +3

      @@lastnamefirstname520 He should get an honorary knighthood for being honest

    • @youbencowell
      @youbencowell 4 роки тому

      Surely that makes him Australian?

  • @julianwhitta1114
    @julianwhitta1114 4 роки тому +86

    You had me at “capacitive buttons are bollocks”!

  • @l.e.i.4111
    @l.e.i.4111 4 роки тому +135

    And VW said: F...k all that ergonomics. Let's confuse them and put some blacked piano sliding capacitive buttons to see if they manage

    • @kwiat126p3
      @kwiat126p3 4 роки тому +1

      ZoSo221 VW: hold my beer 😂

    • @gusehsla
      @gusehsla 4 роки тому

      @ZoSo221 lmao savage

    • @s3er0i9ng
      @s3er0i9ng 4 роки тому +1

      I think they are trying to copy tesla with the minimalist nonsense.

  • @medellon
    @medellon 4 роки тому +72

    I don't understand it, do automakers not research feedback from other brands? Honda had the touch capacitive control for volume, got a ton of crap about it, and replaced them the following year. Why would VW come out with touch capacitive controls after Honda learned its lesson?

    • @doalwa
      @doalwa 4 роки тому +1

      James E. They had to at least try...usually you can just feed us Germans all the bullshit you want and we’ll lap it up...VW knows this!

    • @SuperMrBentley
      @SuperMrBentley 4 роки тому +7

      Vw is run by idiots

    • @Iwishiwasflying
      @Iwishiwasflying 3 роки тому

      Because history must be repeated, until such time everyone learns.

  • @valhallafz6
    @valhallafz6 4 роки тому +72

    I'm currently driving GTI MK7 Performance and do not feel convinced in any way to get the newer one. Good work Autogefühl after all, love your tests. Cheers...

    • @reds005
      @reds005 4 роки тому +7

      Wojtek Lesniak Same here, so glad I got one. Fabulous car.

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  4 роки тому +3

      Cheers m8!

    • @user-lf1gz6op2d
      @user-lf1gz6op2d 4 роки тому +6

      I feel the Mk8 Sounds a little better from the factory, but they have made no improvement elsewhere. Lets enjoy our Mk7’s!

  • @fredericoamigo
    @fredericoamigo 4 роки тому +207

    I’m so disappointed about the golf 8. Golf 7 looked way better, and the infotainment was really nice to use.

    • @FurkanCemTurfanda
      @FurkanCemTurfanda 4 роки тому +25

      The interior definitely took a step down in quality.

    • @zodiac909
      @zodiac909 4 роки тому +9

      The front definitely looks too much like an "old mans" car..

    • @hamididdy
      @hamididdy 4 роки тому +17

      I own an mk7 and keep trying to find a reason to upgrade. Frankly, I cannot. I don't like it at all, it's like the equivalent of BMW fans' hatred towards the new 4 series lol

    • @zodiac909
      @zodiac909 4 роки тому +7

      @@hamididdy That grill STILL gives me nightmares.. 😣😣😦😦😨😨😨

    • @Psi34ax
      @Psi34ax 4 роки тому +7

      The front of the car looks like it’s disappointed itself as well

  • @steve45678
    @steve45678 4 роки тому +48

    Well said Thomas regarding the capacitive buttons .

  • @jeremyjs8863
    @jeremyjs8863 4 роки тому +8

    Technical discussion on steering wheel buttons is one for the 2020 Highlights Reel - never a truer word spoken !

  • @ceefeeshswim3772
    @ceefeeshswim3772 4 роки тому +4

    Thank you Thomas. I am a 7.5 GTI owner and I really enjoyed your “warts and all review” of an iconic car. The negative aspects of capacitive buttons and software clearly irked you. You are way more articulate and descriptive than most native English speaking motoring journalists. Keep it up.👍👍👏

  • @rhajaro
    @rhajaro 4 роки тому +6

    His cheeky laugh when he dusted the "bully from behind" was perfect. 😂

  • @thejfg7741
    @thejfg7741 4 роки тому +15

    Welcome to new 'Dieselgate Interior' - what a shame, I owned a Mk7 GTD from new and the quality and ease of use was exceptional.

    • @DNGMaestro
      @DNGMaestro 4 роки тому +1

      GTD? Are you portuguese?

    • @sonofrobert
      @sonofrobert 4 роки тому

      So after panoramic sunroofgate, VW will have no interior..lol
      Like the VW Thing.

  • @chewbagz
    @chewbagz 4 роки тому +147

    No gas strutt, no logo on key, no badging on engine cover, laggy UI, no cup covers. So much cost cutting......

    • @Philbyyyy
      @Philbyyyy 4 роки тому +16

      Looks like a big step down

    • @kwiat126p3
      @kwiat126p3 4 роки тому +10

      I i think they know they’re like Apple. At the beginning you complain about all that, then you buy VW Golf GTI

    • @kwiat126p3
      @kwiat126p3 4 роки тому

      ​@Antonio Zamudio what?

    • @chewbagz
      @chewbagz 4 роки тому +2

      Kwiat 126p I was really considering upgrading from my Mk7 GTI. But watching this has put me off a little bit. I’ll reserve judgement for the R. If it’s in a similar mould i will just look at a A35/S3.

    • @chewbagz
      @chewbagz 4 роки тому +1

      @Antonio Zamudio agreed, keen on ID3.

  • @jacthemuss
    @jacthemuss 4 роки тому +8

    Love hearing you get more opinionated Thomas - your views are insightful.

  • @blaise3711
    @blaise3711 4 роки тому +228

    Button-less interior. The deepest circle of hell. This is an obvious cost cutting measure and it's absolutely disgusting. 🤮

    • @s8RRRR
      @s8RRRR 4 роки тому +14

      Everything is cost-cutting now. Politics limit cars more and more, manufacturers do hard to keep their profit margins. Thats the result. Customer pays (literally).

    • @hmourad19
      @hmourad19 4 роки тому

      I’m afraid all cars are going that route, and maybe it does cut some costs, but I see it as them making a more minimalist interior, for better or for worse

    • @s8RRRR
      @s8RRRR 4 роки тому +7

      ​@@hmourad19 Maybe we just have to accept. But it's terrible. Turning the music louder (let's say there's no button on the steering) on a touch screen? I'd rather have that little knob I can touch.
      It's sad. Feels like although it's "more technology" you get less for your money the more the time moves on.

    • @4GuitarTrance
      @4GuitarTrance 4 роки тому +4

      @@hmourad19 To each their own, but, if I wanted minimalist I wouldn't pay VW's prices for a compact, pseudo-sports hatchback!

    • @kenhuang4697
      @kenhuang4697 4 роки тому

      @@4GuitarTrance agree with you

  • @thegreatalta
    @thegreatalta 4 роки тому +3

    Thomas, full HD, full screen, full length, lets go... always love that!!! Best reviewer of cars ever you are m8

  • @johncollymore1697
    @johncollymore1697 4 роки тому +95

    Guessing Game: got it wrong! Gas strut excuse seems illogical. Some of its sisters (Audi A3?) have gas struts. "Just bollocks", and "poor user interface" - Thomas says it as it is! Well done Thomas. As always, many thanks for the great detail, driving and driving commentary. Best wishes.

    • @Vm94-p7u
      @Vm94-p7u 4 роки тому

      Brothers* 😆

    • @zexxonije
      @zexxonije 4 роки тому

      Why are gas struts so important? I prefer simpler and sturdier solution. Gas struts fail eventually, imagine having your head under the hood when they fail?

    • @jamesysam002
      @jamesysam002 4 роки тому

      zexxonije I’ve worked for VW group for over 10 years, time at VW and at Audi, and I’ve seen a massive drop in Quality with Volkswagen brand. Plastics inside etc.. The gas struts are just an example of cost cutting. I think it’s such a shame, and very short sighted of them, and the small things like this will genuinely put people off of the brand!

  • @xundercovercowx
    @xundercovercowx 4 роки тому +6

    The looks are actually not too shabby. I’m digging the new wheels. Driving experience seems to improve (more precise steering and improved suspension). They did incorporate a lot of new tech and features (folding side mirror, dcc setting for comfort ride, new digital cluster, start stop button, keyless entry, sportier looking seats, etc.) even for the base trim to make up for the cost cutting in other areas. I think once they work out the kinks on the infotainment system, bring back the buttons, and fix the lagginess of the software, people will start falling in love with it again. I admit I was skeptical too after watching the mk 8 golf review. Mk 8 GTI looks more promising in my opinions. Thanks for the detailed review!

  • @prakashnarismulu3332
    @prakashnarismulu3332 4 роки тому +93

    A few of these are going to be crashed by drivers looking for right settings on their air cons and stereo system while driving

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  4 роки тому +22

      Luckily the autonomous emergency brake is standard

    • @theelementalmankind
      @theelementalmankind 4 роки тому

      A lot

    • @sonofrobert
      @sonofrobert 4 роки тому +1

      Yes and my old Saab '88 900T is way more ergonomic than this crap. They should angle this shit towards the passenger so they can do this nonsense..lol

    • @antonthompson7838
      @antonthompson7838 4 роки тому +1

      If anyone tries to change the air con or stereo with anything other than voice while in motion then they shouldn’t be driving!

  • @l.e.i.4111
    @l.e.i.4111 4 роки тому +20

    A challange for VW: please convince pilots (rally and any formula) that the future of the buttons is to pinch and slide some doubtful surfaces.

  • @monkeyboysteve3807
    @monkeyboysteve3807 4 роки тому +86

    I loved my MK7... this feels like many steps backwards.
    What have they done?
    you can see the cost cutting everywhere....

    • @skfunk4550
      @skfunk4550 4 роки тому +7

      Never owned a Golf because they're boring but i must admit, the MK7 GTI is and was the best looking outside and in and it's the only one, i'd like to own

    • @monkeyboysteve3807
      @monkeyboysteve3807 4 роки тому +1

      @@skfunk4550 I do agree about the boring part, that's why I changed it. i got it because it was a solid car and felt good quality, was one of the best cars in the segment.
      not this generation by the look of it.

    • @wulfstein1
      @wulfstein1 4 роки тому

      Like Thomas said there was improvement hardware wise and the overall driving dynamics have improved... unfortunately VW fell flat on design and software. Cost cutting is expected coming from VW post Dieselgate.

    • @monkeyboysteve3807
      @monkeyboysteve3807 4 роки тому

      @@wulfstein1 some hardware is also many steps behind, like the fact there are no physical knobs and the steering wheel (as Thomas says) is Bollocks...

  • @LSD04
    @LSD04 4 роки тому +12

    Glad I picked up a 2018 GTI, I do like the front seats though.

  • @JM-nz8gw
    @JM-nz8gw 4 роки тому +22

    The full touch infotainment and even light "switches"... WTF
    The MK7 (and MK7.5) was the last great generation of GTI.

  • @brendanfeldwick6493
    @brendanfeldwick6493 4 роки тому +8

    Thanks VW, my wife will be happy. I won't be upgrading my R next year.

  • @autonewstv86
    @autonewstv86 4 роки тому +151

    *At least VW hasn't oversized the grille, just saying ;)*

    • @yes8032
      @yes8032 4 роки тому +15

      Honestly the big grills don’t look bad

    • @Tovarisch_Hardbassov
      @Tovarisch_Hardbassov 4 роки тому +12

      @@yes8032 on the 8 series and on the z4 it looks good but all other especially the 4 series look like crap.

    • @fredericoamigo
      @fredericoamigo 4 роки тому +4

      Well said! 😆

    • @darkojurak3807
      @darkojurak3807 4 роки тому +3

      Good one!! :D

    • @livolas
      @livolas 4 роки тому +1

      Maybe they should have. Would have saved the design maybe.

  • @heytoddy3972
    @heytoddy3972 4 роки тому +32

    The user interface and lack of buttons is awful. Does not make sense. Honda learned that, and switched back to a volume knob in the Type R.

    • @fabinho69fs
      @fabinho69fs 4 роки тому +2

      Thats due to cost cutting measures at VW... Very sad, they are ruining their beautifull cars...
      They should rather cut the managers millions on salarys... Very very sad wwhats going on...

    • @edstark5764
      @edstark5764 4 роки тому

      Nobody needs a volume knob in combination with a wheel with volume control

    • @edawg792
      @edawg792 4 роки тому +3

      +Ed Stark Evidently you’re wrong.

    • @MaximilianvonPinneberg
      @MaximilianvonPinneberg 4 роки тому

      I thin in all models, CRV now has audio and heating controls with knobs.

    • @MaximilianvonPinneberg
      @MaximilianvonPinneberg 4 роки тому +1

      @@edstark5764 haha, bollox. I hate steering wheel controls. Often much slower than the dash knob and with less control in the regulation.

  • @FurkanCemTurfanda
    @FurkanCemTurfanda 4 роки тому +54

    I feel like all of the controls integrated into the electronic screens are dangerous. I'd rather have buttons.

    • @antonthompson7838
      @antonthompson7838 4 роки тому

      It’s only dangerous in the hands of stupid people to use the infotainment while driving, in which case you’re not fit for driving. If you really need to adjust something while in motion then use the voice controls.

    • @WarPigz0
      @WarPigz0 3 роки тому +1

      @@antonthompson7838 Thats a stupid statement. Controlling the radio or AC shouldn't require you to take your eyes off the road. If it does thats shit engineering. Its something that every manufacturer seems to have figured out, even VW, but they chose to go backwards here for some reason. And voice activation is a fucking joke still. May or may not work, who knows. Give it a shot and see :D Put some fucking tactile buttons in simple easy to reach and memorize places. Thats all thats needed. Not some over engineered horse shit to make things more difficult for no discernible reason other than marketing gimmick.

  • @scottdc6971
    @scottdc6971 4 роки тому +89

    I think I'll stick with my MK7.5 GTI and skip this generation. I don't like the look of the front of the car and the new sliders/cap. touch buttons are horrible.

    • @gfusion
      @gfusion 4 роки тому +5

      Scott DC good idea 7.5 is the best looking, they nailed it, then killed it lol

    • @RafitoMembroza
      @RafitoMembroza 4 роки тому +4

      You have the same engine and chassis. I do not take it really as a new generation when they just updated the infotainment making it more complicated to use.

    • @ada006
      @ada006 4 роки тому +3

      Same for me..

    • @desjon6012
      @desjon6012 4 роки тому

      I agree I have the 7 Gti and will get the 7.5 Gti next. The wheels look terrible as well.

    • @downshiftpedal
      @downshiftpedal 4 роки тому +4

      You all are jokers, right . I have a gti 7.5 and just ordered the 8 it might have the same chassis but drives completely different in interior design quality and more fun as mentioned by Thomas. Try a test drive first before complaining.

  • @danielfl.9347
    @danielfl.9347 4 роки тому +1

    Than you for being honest, Thomas. I am glad to hear about the slow screen and bad buttons. You are the best reviewer on youtube.

  • @l.e.i.4111
    @l.e.i.4111 4 роки тому +115

    No gas struts for safety reason!? No s..t Sherlock, I would say, trying to be as polite as I can. Are VW guys taking us for silly boys?! What do we need to understand? New Leon and Octavia don't give a s..t for safety but Golf 8 does? Come on! I think this is a bad joke similar to one they did with the whole Dieselgate.

    • @jay-uo2bi
      @jay-uo2bi 4 роки тому

      What?

    • @biachboy
      @biachboy 4 роки тому +6

      The introduced this Touchbutton crap also because of safety reasons ;-)

    • @danielfl.9347
      @danielfl.9347 4 роки тому +1

      You are being too critical.

    • @l.e.i.4111
      @l.e.i.4111 4 роки тому

      @@danielfl.9347 No at all. Being far from being perfect cars, VW cars are a symbol, especially Golf. A lot of people still want to have a Golf. 7.5 was very close to be an amazing car. Let's always keep in mind that VW is not a premium car though. But, in this context when regulations are more severe almost every year. I don't own a Golf as it is too small for my needs, I own a Tiguan, but that doesn't mean I am not interested in how Golf phenomenon looks like. There are so much to talk around this compact car, but these following details indicate us, that something is wrong inside VW team (management and design as well):
      1. One of the followers told us that he doesn't like the front design either, but the back front design is nice and he is more interested in how the interior look like. He has a Golf 8 Style trim.
      2. He said also that he is about to get use with the features of the car in the interior, after several month. After several month? Definetely the guy is not dumb, as it can be told by the way he gave us all his feedback.
      My question to you all: Is this normal or we are too critical?
      The truth is that VW guys altered a symbol.

    • @danielfl.9347
      @danielfl.9347 4 роки тому

      @@l.e.i.4111 I own a Golf, and yes they have made a lot of cost cutting on the MK8, but it is still a very good car for what it is.

  • @Dollheirs
    @Dollheirs 4 роки тому +8

    I'd be interested in a manual review. Maybe months down the road to see if they update the infotainment system.

  • @animouierie
    @animouierie 4 роки тому +77

    The previous GTI steering wheel is better

    • @MonkeyKong21
      @MonkeyKong21 4 роки тому +4

      and the gas strut; I just open the hood to appreciate the strut now

    • @Ace21kg
      @Ace21kg 4 роки тому

      @KC indeed mk 6 steering wheel was goat

    • @adamsun4070
      @adamsun4070 4 роки тому +1

      I agree

    • @bvedant
      @bvedant 4 роки тому

      I like to call it the "MQB sport" steering wheel since all the sporty MQB VW models had it

  • @sentfrom4477
    @sentfrom4477 3 роки тому +1

    I would like to comment on the review presentation rather than the car itself. By far and away the best review of this car. Other reviews by this presenter are consistently excellent. Thorough, evidenced and not silly like Matt what’s his name in Whatcar. And some others. Commendable presentation and no overkill: it sets a high standard for reviews.

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  3 роки тому

      Highly appreciated!! Keep tuning in 🙂

  • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
    @imnotusingmyrealname4566 4 роки тому +49

    I hope VW realizes that capacitive touch surfaces are a dumb idea and don't implement them in any other new cars.

    • @robertkancijanic3064
      @robertkancijanic3064 4 роки тому +3

      They do realise that. But the only thing thats in their head is cost saving!

    • @TechInTheCar
      @TechInTheCar 4 роки тому +2

      I like the capacitive buttons except for controlling climate!

  • @noushindowlatshahi6221
    @noushindowlatshahi6221 3 роки тому +1

    The best car reviewer! Thank you for your honest, objective and very précise reviews.

  • @iCoolaxe
    @iCoolaxe 4 роки тому +125

    Hopefully VW can fix this Golf in a few years with a facelift.

    • @nealp885
      @nealp885 4 роки тому +13

      Unfortunately, most brands tend to make the facelift look worse than the original these days.

    • @visker81
      @visker81 4 роки тому +2

      @@nealp885 BMW F20 is the exception

    • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
      @imnotusingmyrealname4566 4 роки тому +11

      There will be no new Golf.

    • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
      @imnotusingmyrealname4566 4 роки тому +3

      @@visker81 Do you mean the F20 looks better than it's predecessor or worse than it's successor?

    • @visker81
      @visker81 4 роки тому +2

      @@imnotusingmyrealname4566 F20 facelift looks better than original

  • @Micccc
    @Micccc 3 роки тому +3

    Government: Don’t use phone while driving.
    Car manufacturers: Let’s make 10 touch screens and touchpad steering wheel.

  • @Strand0410
    @Strand0410 4 роки тому +103

    VW must be thinking they can dig themselves out of Dieselgate hole with all these ridiculous cost-cutting measures.

    • @sonofrobert
      @sonofrobert 4 роки тому

      They have the panoramic sunroof class action now.
      Imagine your new VW getting destroyed by water.
      Damaging electrical too.
      What a disaster.
      :(

  • @henryespinosa9283
    @henryespinosa9283 3 роки тому +2

    The 8th generation VW Golf GTI is a superb car in its driving dynamics from what I can tell from all its reviews that I’ve seen, and if the electronic software were fixed, as well as substitute all the controls to buttons and switches like in the previous generation, I think it would be just about perfect. Here in the U.S. we won’t have the GTI or the Type R until perhaps November 2021 but at least it will be German built so it should be of better quality than previous generations.

  • @alonzoharris222
    @alonzoharris222 4 роки тому +111

    Fog lights look cheap and awful. Alloys don't look great. Interior looks cheap and probably is. This is progress apparently.

    • @forza223bowe5
      @forza223bowe5 4 роки тому +16

      Looks rather fussy and awkward the design. golfs were traditionally, Simple and elegant

    • @noobwow2009
      @noobwow2009 4 роки тому +1

      That fog light led will be very expensive to fix =.=

    • @forza223bowe5
      @forza223bowe5 4 роки тому +1

      noobwow2009 Anything that needs fixing, is always costs a lot on VAG cars

    • @AlfaGiuliaQV
      @AlfaGiuliaQV 4 роки тому +3

      I love all of it. looks ace to me!

    • @milchpuder
      @milchpuder 4 роки тому

      @@AlfaGiuliaQV I also think that in this specification (colour and rims), the GTI looks pretty decent. There are certain colours that just don't work. Overall, the design is a bit underwhelming, but still better than a 1 series.

  • @billx4266
    @billx4266 2 роки тому +1

    Keep using that microphone, its looking very professional and the sound is top notch

  • @andrewmontague2636
    @andrewmontague2636 4 роки тому +5

    Another brilliant and thorough review, Thomas. It seems a fabulous car, the only downside being the interface. Can’t wait to see the R when it’s available.. Will it be worth the extra money (7.5 R vs 7.5 GTI definitely is), or is Mk8 GTI all the car you need?

  • @hojichaisfarsuperiortochai9309
    @hojichaisfarsuperiortochai9309 11 місяців тому +1

    Love your videos. My husband in Japan introduced me to your channel. Any time I have a question about one of the cars I am considering to purchase, I always check your channel. I am now purchasing a GTI 380 SE manual. I will pick it up tomorrow. Thank you for your informative video even if it's a few years old.

  • @brunolorenzo4574
    @brunolorenzo4574 4 роки тому +14

    They managed to mess even with the engine cover. 🤦🏿‍♀️

    • @sonofrobert
      @sonofrobert 4 роки тому

      Yes, it looks like shit.
      Maybe they had to hire a bunch of cheap, young designers and yes men.
      .lol

  • @mbergheaud
    @mbergheaud 4 роки тому

    Thank you Thomas, Jonas, and Autogefühl for exemplary automotive journalism!

  • @Success1990
    @Success1990 4 роки тому +37

    So get an MK 7,5 GTI and be happy with it... Golf 8 looks so cheap in comparison

    • @ntube7
      @ntube7 4 роки тому +3

      Prefer the Rear of the 8 to the 7. But the front is rather ugly. Said the same about other things before.

    • @desjon6012
      @desjon6012 4 роки тому +1

      @Daniel Murillo No way the mark 7s are way better than the 5s and 6s in every way. I have owned all 3.

    • @leenadalutti6694
      @leenadalutti6694 4 роки тому +1

      Looking more like a Kia Ceed from the front. Making everything touchscreen is so wrong, looks tacky to me.

    • @415-t1k
      @415-t1k 4 роки тому

      @@desjon6012 Gti versions? Or base?

    • @desjon6012
      @desjon6012 4 роки тому

      @@415-t1k GTis, had a 1.4tsi mark 6 and a mark 4 v5 as well. Currently have a manual 7 GTI and looking to upgrade to 7.5 GTI with DSG.

  • @airsoftincompetence
    @airsoftincompetence 4 роки тому +1

    Made me chuckle when he pulled out that super old-timey measuring stick. Haven't seen one of those in a while.

  • @BF1GUN
    @BF1GUN 4 роки тому +17

    9:22 In the UK we would call this pattern "Tartan" but I believe VW now refer to it as ‘Clark Plaid’

    • @danl4252
      @danl4252 4 роки тому +1

      Volkswagen UK have also referred to it as Jacara cloth upholstery.

    • @acefighterpilot
      @acefighterpilot 4 роки тому +1

      Clark was on Mk6 and Mk7, this new pattern is "Scalepaper." I think also that Mk5 had "Interlagos" plaid. Personally I think Clark was the best, it had that Mk2 retro feel. They also only gave Clark in the US on the base GTI, which leaves all high trim GTI and R owners envious of the base owners in a way.

    • @payne9771
      @payne9771 4 роки тому

      I'd call it waffle, and in my honest oppinion, never liked it :P

    • @MaximilianvonPinneberg
      @MaximilianvonPinneberg 4 роки тому +1

      Plaid is an American term for Check. Tartan is a specific type of check fabric.

  • @goitseonareubenjr.tshoma66
    @goitseonareubenjr.tshoma66 3 роки тому +1

    This is by far the greatest car video I've ever came across

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  3 роки тому

      Highly appreciated! Join us for more reviews!

  • @bdeithrick
    @bdeithrick 4 роки тому +5

    The buttons are “ Just Bollox “ 🤣 I love it .

  • @miyinan
    @miyinan 4 роки тому +1

    Love it. The touch sensitive button is definitely a pain but not a deal breaker and hopefully will update the software soon.

  • @kameelanirood2384
    @kameelanirood2384 4 роки тому +14

    "It's just bollocks" - 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @jamesphilipson1289
    @jamesphilipson1289 3 роки тому +1

    I love that this guy is still using a conventional wireless microphone 🎤 haha there’s still a charm to it

  • @MateuszMarek
    @MateuszMarek 4 роки тому +30

    12:25 Thomas sounds so sad and disappointed with VW. :( Sliders and touch sensitive buttons just pair well with a car. I heard or read somewhere that VW is concidering going back to normal buttons and knobs. And then they released Tiguan facelift with sliders for climate control! OK, decision for that was probably made before release of a new Golf, but who would think that this is a good idea? I soon will be looking to buy new car and was thinking about Tiguan, but I will look into Japanese cars instead. They may lacking in performance and technology department, but at least they don't have some weird ideas and are more reliable than German cars.

    • @MateuszMarek
      @MateuszMarek 4 роки тому +1

      I wanted to write "slider and touch sensitive buttons just don't pair well with a car". Not that they do.

    • @2Razzv
      @2Razzv 4 роки тому +1

      @@MateuszMarek yeah. they look fancy but the old models were more ergonomic. I like my "manual" climate control from leon mk3.

    • @GUITARTIME2024
      @GUITARTIME2024 4 роки тому

      Go toyota

  • @rashman6691
    @rashman6691 4 роки тому +1

    I love this car. Just my type of car, small but kicking ass.

  • @hansjuergen28
    @hansjuergen28 4 роки тому +4

    26:15 shows quite well, how the settings distract you from driving. Thomas goes slower and slower ...

  • @gregsimpson9391
    @gregsimpson9391 4 роки тому +1

    I gave up waiting and bought an AMG A35. Simply brilliant.

  • @Borussia1985
    @Borussia1985 4 роки тому +6

    Thanks Thomas, great review with mentioning the right flaws. As a Mk 7.5 GTI Performance driver I am quite disappointed about the Mk8.
    I noticed another fun fact: They changed the "GTI" characters (Schriftart) outside, but forgot to do the same at the steering wheel. Still the old graphics from the previous models.
    Deutsche Gründlichkeit totally lost 😄
    Its not really important I know, but I'm just wondering why nobody noticed that during the development and production process 🤔

  • @carlkwasnjuk9518
    @carlkwasnjuk9518 4 роки тому

    I have a 2010 GTI with 6 speed manual. Maybe in 10 years I will be able to afford one of these. I LOVE the new design. Great job on the review.

  • @bcm-n7244
    @bcm-n7244 4 роки тому +6

    The Homer "mirror" Simpson joke was damn fine !

    • @reds005
      @reds005 4 роки тому +1

      B CM-N7 mirror goes up...

    • @brianreardon7700
      @brianreardon7700 4 роки тому

      Greetings from Springfield mass u. s .a lol

  • @funkymonkey1198
    @funkymonkey1198 4 роки тому +2

    Never before has one man been so upset about steering wheel controls. Cheer up, Thomas

  • @zackboris3191
    @zackboris3191 4 роки тому +4

    So disappointed by the new interior! Looks like I'll be buying a mk 7.5 when they start to cheapen up after the mk 8 launch.

  • @elvispink4792
    @elvispink4792 4 роки тому

    Amazing choice of a Car for review. Am a die hard fan of the Golf that too GTI. Thanks Thomas and Autogefühl team for such an amazing review. Pure Audiovisual Delight.🤩

  • @lastnamefirstname520
    @lastnamefirstname520 4 роки тому +9

    Renaultsport lights in the bumper 🤣😂

  • @doctorrobert60
    @doctorrobert60 4 роки тому

    I totally agree with you and all the commenters. Touch controls for air con and audio is far inferior to knob controls. The car itself looks like it drives excellent and performs well. Thanks for the very thorough review!

  • @nazhif1
    @nazhif1 4 роки тому +10

    wtf they ripped off Renault with the oversized DRL / fog light on the lower grill

  • @danceswithwolves6841
    @danceswithwolves6841 4 роки тому +2

    Great review, presentation and content as always - thank you Thomas. The buttons and UI would put me off - seems like a step back

  • @XxSaM1994
    @XxSaM1994 4 роки тому +32

    They've penny pinched everywhere on this car! No hydraulic bonet struts, cheap plastic exterior trims, interior is all cheap LCD screens rather than ergonomically crafted swtiches and the engine cover doesn't even have a VW logo. Everything screams cheap, how can they expect people to buy new models when they;re clearly cutting cost left right and center.

    • @mohamedhossam5195
      @mohamedhossam5195 4 роки тому

      I have the Mk7 GTI and it's sad to see that

    • @alfrredd
      @alfrredd 4 роки тому

      I Knowww, and they charge you like 5000€+ than previous generation because it has more technology (which is just a software update) .

    • @Dreww31786
      @Dreww31786 4 роки тому

      I’d be ok with it if it’s priced the same as the Jetta in the us but it’ll probably be 30k and above like the previous generation

    • @blue-ck9ns
      @blue-ck9ns 4 роки тому +1

      When they cut costs in one area, they put that money somewhere else. They’ve taken things out that most people won’t notice/care about, and replaced it with technology. However, I would still prefer the hydraulic struts, a sliding cup holder cover, and actual climate control buttons. Even the touch buttons in the new Arteon look nice. I think the physical knobs are starting to look a little dated. But that just my opinion.

    • @blue-ck9ns
      @blue-ck9ns 4 роки тому

      A Yeah the GTI we’re probably looking at close to 30k for the base model. Hatchbacks always cost more than sedans, it will never be priced the same as the Jetta.

  • @maplegreen6900
    @maplegreen6900 4 роки тому

    If you remember couple of years ago I had one request about the camera position on the middle, and actually you listened and whenever the car has a glass roof we have better viewing angle. First of all In this video I realized different format is used for uploading or UA-cam itself changing something in the video converter engine which is great and I think now it is the time that we could have 4k HDR videos because sometimes in the car is dark and outside is really bright so we see over exposing problem, I really like the long videos and it's kinda relaxing to sit and see, your videos is not only about cars we actually love the scenes and atmosphere so recording with flat profile for example C-Log and color grading after it can solve the problem even you upload SDR for better compatability. I personally can't wait to to see all of your videos with better resolution and dynamic range. Regards

  • @leonmoto1931
    @leonmoto1931 4 роки тому +3

    Many people disliking the design, but let's be honest the light strip on the front together with the fog lights are looking great and also the back looks pretty modern with the new light design.

  • @DenisDamulira23
    @DenisDamulira23 4 роки тому +1

    1:07 Brand new and it's already broken. I still want one. Love how VW/Audi Interior and ride quality makes me feel.

  • @hectorandem2944
    @hectorandem2944 4 роки тому +12

    08:57 / 11:42 Our boy telling it like it is. When you're driving a performance-oriented car, you want all your controls - *especially the ones on your steering wheel* - to respond as fast as possible and for it to be _obvious which control you've used._ Capacitive buttons on a GTI _steering wheel_ is the exact opposite of a high-IQ move. They button shape they've used is very shallow. While that makes the slide funtions easier to use, it also makes the normal button presses easier to _miss,_ especially when driving... *enthusiastically.* Worse, there doesn't seem to be any haptic feedback on those buttons at all!
    It _just about_ works in a Range rover or luxury Audi, but in a GTI? Not this side of 2025 mate!

    • @sonofrobert
      @sonofrobert 4 роки тому

      Maybe VW needs to hire ergonomic Saab engineers.
      Lol

  • @TheMystro1971
    @TheMystro1971 2 місяці тому +1

    I am a hardcore Porsche 911 owner and own many in my collection but my daily is the MK8 GTI. That should say it all. I’m really have no problems with the haptic buttons but maybe my 2024 GTI has been refined. The quick slide down menu can be customized and the ESC is there on any screen for 2024. Also the 8.5” screen with the volume knobs is the only way to go and makes the car perfect. I didn’t like the 10.5” display with the temp sliders so the 8.5” display solves all those issues.

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for the feedback! Now that solution is not available anymore: ua-cam.com/video/EJL-pqodaJA/v-deo.htmlsi=xgdhVR4gorzZjCn5

  • @brightbluesmurf
    @brightbluesmurf 4 роки тому +7

    VW cut the costs to the bone to pay for diesel gate! Cheap plastics, no bonnet gas strut and piece de resistance, no physical buttons on the steering wheel 😂

  • @BobWilson84
    @BobWilson84 3 роки тому

    Thank you very much for this video! Waiting for the 2022 GTI here in the states...

  • @gkelly34
    @gkelly34 4 роки тому +7

    VW have gone too far too soon. Very disappointing. I've always loved vw's intuitive control panels with physical buttons that felt nice. Excellent review, thanks Tomas 👍

  • @Spectre4300s
    @Spectre4300s 4 роки тому +1

    Amazing review, I'm considering a new GTI and this review was very helpful in making my decision.

  • @FEVERNOVAA
    @FEVERNOVAA 4 роки тому +4

    No tornado red option for this generation?

  • @gregorygant4242
    @gregorygant4242 4 роки тому

    They skimped on the gas struts ,but at least they put proper , real exhausts.
    I love the GTI digital display instrument panel.Pretty unique for the GTI.
    The seats are nice too.
    Too bad the infotainment system is so complicated and hard to adjust while driving .
    Still, the driving characteristics look great , so they make up for all that stuff.
    At the end of the day that's why you get a car like the GTI , for the driving experience, at least they nailed that .
    Great detailed review Thomas, super informative .
    That's why I keep watching you Thomas , keep it up man , Ciao Ciao !

  • @speedhead42
    @speedhead42 4 роки тому +9

    Long story short: The predecessor is better in pretty much every way.

    • @hmourad19
      @hmourad19 4 роки тому

      speedhead42 I mean he did say it drove better than the mk7 so...

    • @rich8305
      @rich8305 4 роки тому

      speedhead42 er no it is not

    • @doalwa
      @doalwa 4 роки тому

      speedhead42 I drive a 7.5 GTI and while I don’t dig the lack of physical buttons I’d be willing to give it a chance...we’ll see 👍

  • @GLI_1701
    @GLI_1701 Рік тому

    I own the 2023 VW GTI 40th anniversary edition. Living with a car for over a week now I've already gotten used to wear all the buttons or lack thereof are and the infotainment is not as a big deal as you might think once you get used to everything and know how everything works and the timing of your inputs it's like second nature and plus it has a drop down menu that has your critical buttons that you're going to use for the most part and that's very convenient

  • @fusionlord2533
    @fusionlord2533 4 роки тому +24

    The steering wheel looks so cheap.

    • @nlh32
      @nlh32 4 роки тому +6

      VW even cheap out on the red stitching

    • @TarzanGTI
      @TarzanGTI 4 роки тому +1

      Honestly... One thing I love about the MK7 is it's steering wheel. Leather surrounding and just a pleasing design.

    • @florianj6490
      @florianj6490 4 роки тому

      Not in reality

  • @deutsch-kanadier901
    @deutsch-kanadier901 4 роки тому +1

    Yet another excellent review of a VW by Thomas. This is my next GTI. I have owned the MK 5, 6 and 7.5 now. My current GTI is a 2018 Autobahn. As much as I love my current vehicle, the body styling and performance handling capabilities of the MK 8, impress me enough to buy it next year. The one thing I re-reviewed in this vid was the disappointing software set-up as explained by Thomas. I too, hope that they are able to understand what he and other reviewers are saying about having to take your eyes off the road to change set-up for the DCC and other applications. Not a very well thought out design there. If they don't change this before dealership delivery...I may have to wait for the 2nd production run for which I'm sure initial production buyers will have raised concerns about. Enough to shake the software design engineers to correct things before buyers just say 'no'...because of this. VW; back to the design board and re-think options WRT software before this is sent out to worldwide dealerships. Not to mention the 'no gas strut' issue and other set backs.

    • @GUITARTIME2024
      @GUITARTIME2024 4 роки тому

      Dude, keep that 7.5.

    • @deutsch-kanadier901
      @deutsch-kanadier901 4 роки тому

      @@GUITARTIME2024 Ya figure? Just outta curiosity...why do you say that?

    • @GUITARTIME2024
      @GUITARTIME2024 4 роки тому

      @@deutsch-kanadier901 7.5 is the best they have made. This mark 8 is absurd with those capacitive steering wheel controls, the screen sliders, no buttons, the stupid front grill, the stupid one-piece seats, etc.

  • @topthecat2259
    @topthecat2259 4 роки тому +10

    "Just bollocks" exactly Thomas, just technology for technology's sake. Who makes these terrible decisions??

  • @benh5906
    @benh5906 4 роки тому +1

    There isn't a lot I like about the Mk 8 to be honest. I hate those fog lamps. But I do like the looks of the seats. Overall I'm really happy I purchased a 2019 Mk 7.5 R.

  • @systemfails
    @systemfails 4 роки тому +3

    Thank you for review

  • @drewwilson636
    @drewwilson636 4 роки тому +1

    As always a great review but I will definitely be sticking with my current Mk 7.5

  • @Bangavii
    @Bangavii 4 роки тому +5

    The interior looks so bland and kind of cheap. I really don't like those huge piano black bezels around the screen. I guess they have a lot of work to do for the mk 8.5

  • @sentfrom4477
    @sentfrom4477 3 роки тому

    Top notch review. One observation. The GTi has quite a lot of tyre noise, but perhaps this is a consequence of the low profile tyres. It might then, be something that experienced gti drivers expected. I don't know.

  • @D_HongKongVideos
    @D_HongKongVideos 4 роки тому +16

    VW management “how can we have more revenues”. Accountant “ I know, let’s make the user interface so bollocks we can have more crashes, so we can sell more spare parts at inflated prices”. Diess “Ok”

    • @sonofrobert
      @sonofrobert 4 роки тому

      And more lawsuits, even after panoramic sunroofgate..lol

  • @randomfunnyvideos103
    @randomfunnyvideos103 2 роки тому

    I just watched this whole video and am really sad because I cannot afford to buy a car at the moment. I am however working hard and I hope one day I will have such a nice car. I really love it...Much love from Kenya.

  • @primoholzfeller8844
    @primoholzfeller8844 4 роки тому +9

    This infotainment screen is one big lag! Disgrace!

  • @LordStaind
    @LordStaind 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome review Thomas. As much as I’m “fan boying” over this new Gti, I’m probably gonna have to wait for the release of the new Mazda 3 Awd turbo and there’s also talks of a release for the new Hyundai Elantra N. Can’t wait for those cars.

  • @martinortiz575
    @martinortiz575 4 роки тому +6

    The front part of this new Mk8 golf is ugly. Mk7 Golf was way much accurate. And the Fog lights of this gen are really disgusting. And there's no reason to writt off the hood struts. Good review as always.

  • @AltarenGalil
    @AltarenGalil 4 роки тому

    Great review as always, my favorite automotive channel. Definitely deserves my patreon and i hope more people will support this great content creator too

  • @RoadkillGoat1
    @RoadkillGoat1 4 роки тому +22

    VW is so cheap now no gas strut no battery cover. Cost cutting yet charging more
    Also 17 inch as standard on a gti. Pfft glad I wont be getting this generation golf

    • @podge5555
      @podge5555 4 роки тому +1

      Surely that’s a mistake?! 17” alloys sounds very puny for a GTI

    • @darkknight830
      @darkknight830 4 роки тому +1

      Maybe one day aside from having no battery cover, there won't even be a battery included hahaha.

    • @23Piccolina
      @23Piccolina 4 роки тому +1

      My new 2020 Jetta has no plastic engine cover! Whoo hoo! VW probably saved $10 bucks! Brand is getting cheaper and cheaper.

    • @RoadkillGoat1
      @RoadkillGoat1 4 роки тому +1

      @@podge5555 especially when Seat offer 19's as standard on the cupra. I bet the R doesn't even get them as standard

    • @podge5555
      @podge5555 4 роки тому +2

      the king : yeah I think VW are taking the piss with the new Golf

  • @eraummenino3011
    @eraummenino3011 4 роки тому +1

    Thank the lord is not a hybrid as they were speculating, kudos to VW for giving us an actual exhaust note and manual transmission

  • @theslicefactor4590
    @theslicefactor4590 4 роки тому +5

    This just looks like a total step down from the Golf 7.5. Even the mk8 interior feels cheap, tacky and less premium when compared to the 7.5. I would happily go for a Golf mk7.5 over this thing any day.