Eric Johnson Lesson: The Skip Fives Lick (Cascade, Chapter 22)

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    A classic and unusual Eric Johnson lick from Cliffs of Dover, and an unexpected way to play it! Watch the entire 6-hour Cascade seminar: troygrady.com/seminars/cascade/

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  • @BullToTheShit
    @BullToTheShit 6 років тому +63

    One day I hope you're able to get Eric Johnson on your show to confirm your theory.

  • @BAJARACER43X
    @BAJARACER43X 9 років тому +349

    this guy needs to find out who killed kennedy

    • @malteraff5237
      @malteraff5237 7 років тому +20

      If you really look for an answer for this issue, i just tell you: it was the CIA with L.B. Johnson on top!

    • @KingWTFuck
      @KingWTFuck 6 років тому +4

      It was the mob.

    • @rolandlemus203
      @rolandlemus203 6 років тому +5

      It was BOTH! There was a very good special on it, about the car in the back which was his own SS detail. who had a semi automatic in the front seat who had one round shot out, evidence almost destroyed but the skull and the angles ALL match up on the second shot which proves the angle from the shot from behind at car level, being that the SS agent didn't plan or mean to do it, but others say otherwise, but anyway, there is a longer story to it, and the Mob was behind Oswald. He was a patsy, and the SS agent was hung over and "supposedly" didn't plan to press the trigger, when approached, all of the agents in that car would not comment. It's all suspect, but a sad chapter in our history of what NOT to do for Presidential protection.

    • @saiyaniam
      @saiyaniam 6 років тому +49

      It was inside picking.

    • @851852093114208513
      @851852093114208513 6 років тому +2

      I heard LBJ had a huge dick.
      So take that conspiracy nuts.

  • @jsguitargeek1432
    @jsguitargeek1432 Рік тому +8

    Troy's work is revolutionary - and he deserves very positive comment in this list - and more

  • @AngelRiveroMusic
    @AngelRiveroMusic 8 років тому +53

    Thanks Troy, I have learned so much with your videos, that i haven't go out from home in 2 days trying to nail down your mechanics. You just solved many of my problems and have filled my enthusiasm up to the point that i can't sleep because i want to keep playing and i wake up very early because i can't stop thinking about all this things. Thank you very much for beign so pasionate and helpful

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  8 років тому +14

      +Angel Rivero Thanks Angel! I definitely recommend getting some sunshine. Everything in moderation!

    • @jeffreymonroe153
      @jeffreymonroe153 8 років тому +1

      +Troy Grady yes, what Angel said.

  • @TheAgentAssassin
    @TheAgentAssassin 9 років тому +18

    such an in depth and informative look at guitar player techniques
    awesome

  • @benwillard6751
    @benwillard6751 5 років тому +12

    You're an excellent player and just as impressive analyzer and instructor!!

  • @EVEROSFP1
    @EVEROSFP1 6 років тому +2

    Troy you are a hell of a teacher. PERIOD.

  • @pics5668
    @pics5668 7 років тому +3

    I enjoy your approach and lessons. Great balance of showing what is going on (very well) and talking, explaining! Thank you!

  • @stepitupandgo67
    @stepitupandgo67 9 років тому +35

    Thanx Troy...great lesson as always...you're making me realize that I've wasted years of my life with improper picking practicing...thanks a lot...where were you in the 80s? When I needed you??...haha

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  9 років тому +11

      Evan Davidson Thanks Evan. I think you've seen where I was in the '80s: in my damn room with the SK1 trying to figure stuff out (and mostly failing) like everyone else!

    • @stepitupandgo67
      @stepitupandgo67 9 років тому +4

      I was there with you, but you were already more advanced...I slowed down records with my thumb...caveman style..

    • @MrPyroguru
      @MrPyroguru 8 років тому

      +Troy Grady Would economy picking work for this lick here?
      I define Economy Picking as this:
      I use Alternate Picking on each individual string but when switching strings I use Economy Picking. For example going from E-A-D-G-B-E I would begin each individual string with downstrokes. However, if I was going opposite E-B-G-D-A-E I would being each individual string with upstrokes. It is like miniature Sweep Picking with switching individual strings.
      There are occasions where Hammering On From Nowhere like above is necessary as well. Occasions where reducing movement for speed is essential. Eric probably stumbled on this accidentally from hours of practicing. You figure out things with time sometimes subconsciously as well.
      Hybrid Picking works wonders as well. I use my middle, ring and pinky fingers for grabbing the G-B-E strings when using distortion. Why do I do this here? The thinnest strings on the guitar G-B-E pick up your picking when using high gain but not your fingertips!
      Let me know your thoughts on my ideas.
      Thank You

    • @MrPyroguru
      @MrPyroguru 8 років тому +1

      +Troy Grady Keeping your forearms from tightening up is important as well. Reducing movement with your above techniques and reducing pick resistance is essential as well.
      Frank Gambale, Paul Gilbert, Greg Howe and Magnus Olsson taught me much!
      They employ legato techniques and hammering on from nowhere on several songs.

    • @KingTabor
      @KingTabor 8 років тому +1

      +Michael Williams hammer from nowhere is guitar playing's best secret weapon.

  • @TheZenguitarguy
    @TheZenguitarguy 8 років тому +2

    Your approach is great. That you are willing to really examine the mechanics to get to the music is impressive. You are a true Jedi of Guitar!

  • @youhavetogoback8449
    @youhavetogoback8449 9 років тому +1

    This video was unbelievably helpful. I finally understand what EJ does on the fast licks. Your videos helped me finally get an understanding of his bounce technique. Thanks a lot.

  • @Art-zs6sl
    @Art-zs6sl 7 років тому +1

    Troy Grady is absolutely one of my favorite UA-cam performers! Thanks Troy!

  • @ericrussell1117
    @ericrussell1117 2 роки тому +1

    Troy hi my name is Eric Russell I have watching your videos for years and have been working on learning this it’s been an extremely hard long tedious path of trial and error I have finally just got it and you were the beginning of leading down the right path it’s a weird feeling there is less resistance then I pictured in my mind it feels extremely smooth anyway thank you you for being you and doing what you do peace Troy in the words of Steve Marriott and Peter Frampton Rock On

  • @G-NutZ
    @G-NutZ Рік тому +2

    Troy is a monster 👹 the analyst of the worlds greatest shredders. This series is one of the single greatest additions to the world of advanced guitar lessons.

  • @ChrisOBrien666
    @ChrisOBrien666 9 років тому +2

    Another great video *****. After playing guitar for 30+ years, I'm surprised at how much my playing has improved over the last few months thanks to the insight you've provided in your videos!

  • @juanvezoli1770
    @juanvezoli1770 7 років тому +4

    BEST GUITAR TEACHER EVER !! you decrypted the mistery code of picking !!

  • @renovatr
    @renovatr 8 років тому +2

    you've pretty much mastered so many picking techniques, Thank you for sharing this information...

  • @viruscerbero
    @viruscerbero 3 місяці тому

    The analysis you've made on this video is pure genius.You took a great technique and took it to the ultimate level. Thank you Troy

  • @voxpopulivoxdei666
    @voxpopulivoxdei666 8 років тому

    Thank you so much Troy. Great videos that wonderfully articulate guitar technique.

  • @michaelgriffin5304
    @michaelgriffin5304 5 років тому +1

    That is the coolest looking Gibson ever! I'm not even a big Gibson fan. The content on your channel is unmatched in terms of content, editing and professionalism. I recommend your videos to all of my students. Thanks Troy!

  • @QWERTY2106
    @QWERTY2106 8 років тому +1

    thx man !
    before I was only using Alternate picking but you make me realise picking technic is very important, since than my playing has improve . thx again !

  • @MisaSantaCecilia
    @MisaSantaCecilia 7 років тому +1

    Thank you so much! Amazing work, Troy!

  • @JustinArmstrongsite
    @JustinArmstrongsite 9 років тому +1

    This lick is definitely easier than it looks. I love the way it isolates the bounce technique and has actually really improved my standard fives playing. Thanks for the lesson!

  • @hbi03bonn
    @hbi03bonn 9 років тому

    Very nice work Troy. Thanks for it.

  • @hveguitar
    @hveguitar 9 років тому +3

    You're amazing Troy!

  • @kamoverturf6192
    @kamoverturf6192 6 років тому

    I’ve watched this I don’t know how many times the last three years, and I think I’m just starting to understand and come to grips with it! Lol

  • @fretbro5150
    @fretbro5150 9 років тому

    I actually always heard that as the first highest two notes resulting from a pulloff. Your videos are really cool!

  • @fattymcfatterson3651
    @fattymcfatterson3651 6 років тому +2

    I could never figure out how EJ was playing those fives so quickly. I'd love to see a video analyzing Shawn Lane's odd groupings. Thanks for the great videos!

  • @jackjack5933
    @jackjack5933 6 років тому

    Excellent troy !! Thanks a lot. I like the sequence about Hammer came from nowhere at 5'53''

  • @JonathanFrancove
    @JonathanFrancove 8 років тому

    amazing lessons and videos, the best ones that I've ever seen!

  • @timhaase3297
    @timhaase3297 3 роки тому

    This is so valuable. Thank you!!

  • @alperen2717
    @alperen2717 4 роки тому

    thats excatly what i was looking for. awesome channel

  • @BlaireBustillo
    @BlaireBustillo 5 років тому

    Great analysis Troy. You're a great teacher 👍😁 Thanks

  • @lyresmyth
    @lyresmyth 9 років тому

    Another great one my friend.... Nice Job...

  • @gianlucavertemati5347
    @gianlucavertemati5347 8 років тому

    wow troy.!!!!! the best pick mechanics lesson ever!!!!!!!!! thank's thank's thank's

  • @Djcwozza
    @Djcwozza 9 років тому

    Awesome stuff troy!!

  • @TheJoeWentzProjectTV
    @TheJoeWentzProjectTV 9 років тому +1

    Good God....I love how you play man. Damn this is inspirational!!!

  • @Upstater73
    @Upstater73 8 років тому +35

    Troy, you mention Shawn Lane in this video. Do you think you will ever do a video on his technique?

  • @sergiobarboza3487
    @sergiobarboza3487 7 років тому

    Thanks Troy!!

  • @zsrm4578
    @zsrm4578 4 роки тому

    All your videos are amazing...
    Im suscribe!

  • @ChristianThoresen
    @ChristianThoresen Рік тому

    Thanks for a awesome lesson!

  • @peYko91
    @peYko91 9 років тому +1

    The best explanation ever. Period. (y)

  • @jessegaronband
    @jessegaronband 5 років тому +3

    John McLaughlin was applying this technique since the late 60s!

  • @WilRockQ
    @WilRockQ 4 роки тому +3

    Hi Troy. Here's another possibility, and from the video I think it's correct. Eric is not picking the fifth note at all. He's simply hammering it on with his ring finger, and there is plenty of power to make that note sing nicely without picking it. Then he's in a nice position to simply pick the first note again with a down stroke and he doesn't have to worry about skipping that string.

    • @Rockeman182
      @Rockeman182 3 роки тому

      I think you're on to something.

  • @IngloriousKam
    @IngloriousKam 9 років тому

    Woawh very very interesting moves, at first my brain has exploded when I tried this, then I get it, it 's new and unsual for me as a two way pick slanter...Troy you are going far very far, now we're talking !!!pendulum bouncing hopping skipping....I hope you'll tack in a future about sarod and scalpel technique which is a part of all you are talking about since the first CTC...Malmsteen is a perfect example of a perfect scalpel movement with his thumb, and what I call Sarod and you Yngwie's Butter toast :)

  • @KapnKregg
    @KapnKregg 11 місяців тому

    At 2:05 is when it finally clicked for me. Continuing the motion of the pick up to the next note is genius. Once I started getting that down, now my right hand is moving faster than my left!

  • @DanielDavis730
    @DanielDavis730 8 днів тому

    Fantastic help me out heaps

  • @glytch5
    @glytch5 5 років тому +3

    FINALLY.... A broken down concept of how this lick works... I find it easy to just skip the string, and not even touching the pause at this point in time.

  • @irwanbahari897
    @irwanbahari897 5 років тому +1

    this guy likes picking tehnique so much 🔥

  • @commiehunter733
    @commiehunter733 2 роки тому

    Best lessons on UA-cam

  • @edwardovan
    @edwardovan 7 років тому +10

    Troy is a BEAST on the guitar and the only person in the world that I am aware of that has organized, non-technical lessons on figuring out what the hell shred guitarists are doing that 95% of us are not. You need to watch several videos to realize just how excellent Troy is. If Pete Thorn is the Guitar Nerd...I think Troy is...the Guitar... I dunno.."Mega Nerd". All good tho!!

    • @jasonring5231
      @jasonring5231 5 років тому +1

      Yeah.....Troy is beyond Pete Thorn! hahaha Both are super great though!

  • @JuddOakes
    @JuddOakes 9 років тому

    +mike sterling
    Thanks I have started to utilize the downward pickslanting into my practice
    It is definitely better for changing from rhythm to single note licks better
    Feels a little more relaxed as well

  • @I.G.G.G.
    @I.G.G.G. 7 років тому +2

    I love you man!

  • @ConnorEngstromMusic
    @ConnorEngstromMusic 8 років тому +5

    I set the speed to .5 to hear him playing the outro licks. Did not expect to laugh so hard by watching his speaking slowed down starting at 13:20 haha!

    • @8MinuteAxe
      @8MinuteAxe 4 роки тому

      Obviously, I have too much time on my hands. I tried your experiment. He summons his inner horshack!

  • @ScottMartinD
    @ScottMartinD 5 років тому

    IMO you are 100% correct. He's hammering onto the 5th-string/D-note.

  • @MindsetMastery75
    @MindsetMastery75 5 років тому +8

    Damn, you got skills as a drummer also! Crazy how musically talented you are.

  • @anthem3560
    @anthem3560 7 років тому

    absolutely insane

  • @EveOfChaos
    @EveOfChaos 4 роки тому

    Dude do you offer private lessons? In all honesty you are literally the most informative person I've ever found as far as technique goes. I mean you are as just as amazing as Joe satriani as a teacher

  • @markyboo
    @markyboo 8 років тому +1

    I've always wondered how Eric landed on that G note with a downstroke. That comes from assuming every note was picked. So the last note is a ghost hammer-on. Mystery solved. Thanks, Troy!

  • @pizzamon795
    @pizzamon795 5 років тому

    Dude...... you're fookin good.

  • @ChrisMichaelsChicago
    @ChrisMichaelsChicago Рік тому

    That is one nice axe you have there! Second only to you're video's on the cool scale ;)

  • @pattystomper1
    @pattystomper1 8 років тому +1

    I thought you were going to say the 5th note was an upstroke. Down up down up up. The pick comes off the 4th note in an upstroke, and follows through to hit the next string in an upstroke. This sets you up to hop over the middle string easier, because the upstroke raises your hand up and away from the strings.

    • @bleensteen9331
      @bleensteen9331 7 років тому +1

      Or you could economy pick the first four notes (down up up down) and sweep into the fifth which sets you up for the hop the same way. Feels effortless to do it that way but not as clean and even as the EJ way.

  • @5urg3x
    @5urg3x 4 роки тому +1

    I didn't even realize this riff is supposed to be played this way, I always played it with 3 notes on the G first

  • @freecitizen2760
    @freecitizen2760 4 роки тому

    Best explanation of how to play fast.
    Thanks.
    (Check out his “Cracking The Code” series, especially episodes 9-10-11-12.)

  • @mrjonesdontbreakmybones3300
    @mrjonesdontbreakmybones3300 8 років тому +1

    Check out skip sweeping by Shaun Baxter. He wrote an article in guitar techniques about deal with down sweeps and up sweeps that skip strings.

  • @RobertLongM
    @RobertLongM 5 років тому +1

    The hammer does sound warmer and EJ loves warm tone. Ask Eric - he’s awesome and will answer you

  • @danaparsons854
    @danaparsons854 Рік тому

    nice ax. on my bucket list

  • @ScifiSiShredaholic
    @ScifiSiShredaholic 7 років тому +2

    GRREAT video :)

  • @carlosclaptrix
    @carlosclaptrix 7 років тому

    Great how you develop thoughts...

  • @vjimmers1
    @vjimmers1 5 років тому

    5:38 no, i heard that note twice, not the first time, the second and third are hammers but on a high note maybe first finger and out of time actually starting the next run but quick. The last sounds like sweep up one string (same as second but more clear) then the thumb on the last bass note to end.

  • @DonSyndrome
    @DonSyndrome 4 роки тому

    Soooo cool

  • @Nik930714
    @Nik930714 9 років тому +2

    Hi Troy, i wanted to ask you something about the metronome. I recently fell in love with the speed builder function in guitar pro. If you are not familiar with it, it basically starts from a slow tempo (that you set up), and it gradually speeds it up to the full temp of a song or a riff. Do you believe that this is a beneficial way of learning, or is it just as good as a regular set tempo practise. I would love to hear from you on this matter.

  • @SousSherpa
    @SousSherpa 9 років тому

    I have an old transcription to this from Guitar for the Practicing musician, it is the same as the way you play it (5's).

  • @PhilipZilfo
    @PhilipZilfo 9 років тому +6

    Jesus.. You kick ass at drums too? Enough already ;)

  • @kennethbransford820
    @kennethbransford820 5 років тому

    I am trying to use the same technique only in finger style playing. Thank you for you time To all the guitar geeks.

  • @mariacasanova5409
    @mariacasanova5409 7 років тому

    yuo are very smart man thanks for your work. could you study jason becker? i ve been trying to get his technique but its very difficult
    blessings

  • @livingthattwelvelife2209
    @livingthattwelvelife2209 7 років тому

    Your tone is absolutely divine! It's rich and full without being massively gainy. What amps/effects are you using? I'm playing a USA Tele with a stack in the bridge and an N3 in the neck.

  • @calebsj
    @calebsj 6 років тому +1

    you can also sweep up the last two notes

  • @philipdowns4176
    @philipdowns4176 8 років тому

    Hi Troy, great video. Just thought I would throw this out there. Eric calls it the bounce, which if you watch when your playing that lick towards the end when you say that the pick flops over the string. In the slow motion it actually looks more like the pick is bouncing back from the string like a fake up stroke which would free up the pick to move onto the next string. Which maybe what Eric means when he says bounce as he bounces the pick off the string below?

  • @calebsj
    @calebsj 8 років тому

    you can also sweep up the 2nd set of strings allowing you to end on an upstroke.down up down up up

    • @beagleguitar
      @beagleguitar 8 років тому

      +caleb jacobs That's true, but it's not something that Eric does (sweeping up) because of his downward pick slanting.

  • @SirJamestheIII
    @SirJamestheIII 8 років тому

    Greg Howe has stuff on how to make hammer ons from nowhere sound like picked notes with subtle enough palm muting and enough left hand finger strength (you really need to slap the finger down to get a muted note to play).

  • @kickassrockguitar
    @kickassrockguitar 9 років тому

    Troy,
    Many thanks for your picking insights and phenomenal recreations of the 80s. I dont know which of the two I get more of a kick from!
    Secondly, I need your help because something doesn't make sense about pick slanint to aid string hopping. Apologies if this isn't the video you were discussing it - I have watched a ton today and may be a bit lost.
    1) In the video I was watching you explained how down pickslanting helps the "string hopping" motion and though I saw your point, it was still hopping over the string nonetheless. And as down pickslanting creates a larger hop over the next string down due to it being angled, surely this would decrease speed compared to no pick slanting which creates a milder hop?
    2) In the video I was watching you then said to complete certain phrases you would have to reverse to upwards pickslanting and you then descended down the strings but why would you have to reverse if the whole point of downslanting was to naturally cause the plectrum to rise up and hop over the next string?
    Thanks in advance.

  • @kwh1023
    @kwh1023 6 років тому

    Really enjoying your videos. Can I ask what pedal(s) and amp are you using here ?

  • @MilestoneMediaUSA
    @MilestoneMediaUSA 8 років тому

    Whoa!

  • @horstlippitsch
    @horstlippitsch 9 років тому +1

    Great Sound!! Which camera do you use???

  • @boris123f
    @boris123f 9 років тому +38

    How many guitarist does it take to change a light bulb ......... One,.......... And 1000 to talk about the techniques

  • @malteraff5237
    @malteraff5237 7 років тому

    I just do: Down-Up - Down -Up - Up (sweep) and then again.... works great and you have the accent on the first of every five group...

  • @robertosaavedra1802
    @robertosaavedra1802 Рік тому

    Wow even thought I’m pretty acrobatic for some types of Licks and pickings, this 5s thing is like imposible to my long dumb fingers

  • @myysticranger
    @myysticranger 9 років тому

    this was very insightful. I have been really focusing on my right hand techniques lately....I've always been a sloppy player. Need more precision! lol

  • @eweeparker
    @eweeparker 8 років тому

    Okay, so I naturally do the dwps and I have since I began getting into shred around 18 or so years ago. I play with the middle and the thumb for picking, but is this okay or should I dedicate some time to index and thumb as well?

  • @JohnDoe-vx5su
    @JohnDoe-vx5su 6 років тому

    this guy make me anxious...

  • @beagleguitar
    @beagleguitar 8 років тому +1

    Ha! "And we've given it a kind of 'fives independence' to where we can now play it anywhere we want." Umm .... Apparently YOU can do that Troy; I don't know how many other folks can. :o)
    While watching Eric play the fives in slow motion, I was wondering about whether he picked that last note too, and then you brought it up, confirming what I was thinking.
    Also interesting is when he ends the lick with the note on the low G (string 6, fretted with the thumb). If he had picked that 5th note on the A string (the D note), it would either require him to pick the low G with an upstroke or hop from the 5th string to pick the 6th string with a down stroke. But it's unequivocally clear in the video that he does NOT pick that 5th string right before he picks the last low G on the 6th string. In fact, you can hear that he actually kind of hammers back up to the G note on the 4th string (fret 17)---possibly erroneously---instead of "hammering from nowhere" to the 5th string D note.
    Anyway ... great video as usual.

  • @ThangNguyen-xt8pj
    @ThangNguyen-xt8pj 2 роки тому

    I think the last note is sweep from the forth note so we end with upstroke.

  • @aileoz
    @aileoz 5 років тому +3

    Hey Troy, please do a video on Guthrie Govan techs!

    • @leerobbo92
      @leerobbo92 4 роки тому +1

      That'd be like, 5 days long or something...

  • @matthiasmilczynski
    @matthiasmilczynski 7 років тому

    I believe I can see Eric picking the fifth note of the sequence with an upstroke instead of the hammer-on from nowhere, this would also allow him to start the 5-note-pattern with a downstroke, thoughts?

  • @somekindofdude1130
    @somekindofdude1130 8 років тому

    is there any chance making a video about jeff loomis

  • @abdulazis-dl7vv
    @abdulazis-dl7vv 7 років тому

    what about if i do that tehnik with legato every 2 not ? what is diffrent ? and whos the best without that tehnik ?

  • @FranticRock
    @FranticRock 9 років тому

    Great lesson. Check the intonation on your A. It's sharp above the 12th fret by like 5 cents....

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  9 років тому

      FranticRock Totally! The guitar needs a fret job, or setup, or both, badly. And of course we only caught that after we filmed. Serves us right.

    • @sacitmanav
      @sacitmanav 8 років тому

      +FranticRock wow man

  • @ukottaja
    @ukottaja 9 років тому

    Hi Troy. Your lesson is again truly an aye opener. Do you think that Nuno uses your here mentioned technique f. ex on his Mourning Widows song "Love is a cigarette". In my opinion It sounds that theres something similar going on there (somewhere around 4.30). Thanks and Keep it up!

    • @KingTabor
      @KingTabor 9 років тому

      Nuno does a lot of of hammers-from-nowhere for pentatonic licks too. Like in "get the Funk Out" solo. 4 notes through 3 strings and just the 1st one is picked

    • @NikolajChristensen
      @NikolajChristensen 9 років тому

      Marcus Vinnas this is bizarre. I'm currently working on that solo and have struggled with that 4-note descending repeated blues-scale lick. Quite unrelated I have browsed Troy's videos (and find them beyond brillant) and then I stumble upon your comment here. It makes perfect sense. Thanks a bunch!

    • @KingTabor
      @KingTabor 9 років тому

      Nikolaj Christensen Nuno actually plays that 4-note lick picking just the 1st one w/ index finger at the 1st string. The 'Boston Live' DVD shows this very nicely. Cheers from Brazil.

  • @twoamps
    @twoamps 5 років тому

    Hey Troy,I know you get a lot of requests, but could you please explain the lick in EJs Zenland (Love Child Album that occurs @ 4:00 Thanks Much