One of The Most Unhinged Indie RPGs: Knuckle Sandwich
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- Опубліковано 8 січ 2024
- Do it for Dolus
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Having so many plot threads and/or misdirections that the story is unable to give a satisfying conclusion is always a dealbreaker for me.
Fern being the new ending replacing the patreon-I can dig it
Also, this game feels like a indesive Miitopia-no idea what it wants to be and no clear connecting plot threads, which Miitopia did have-connecting plot threads and was able to make genuine serious moments
I expected your next upload to be sometime later, not the immediate next day.
Someone didn't finish my update video lol
@@TheRpgMongerI did, I just forgot. My mistake.
The finale reminds me a little of yiik, not as bad as yiik though. Mostly just needlessly twisty. A twist you can’t see coming or a twist bombardment can really show the hand of the author in a story. Though this game does look charming in an experiential way, just vibing with some random guys odd lens of the world.
Gives me that vibe too. Yiik was a weird one where despite the mess it is I still kind of like it, the way people like The Room. It's got a certain feel to it where it could have been great but is off in so so many ways. Like the combat system is broken despite having promise, the story could have been a great discussion about self reflection only to lean hard into being the worst version of itself, and overall I can't bring myself to hate it even if I can't pin down why.
Am I the only one who had no emotional attachment to the Busdriver at all? The choice at the end was the easiest thing ever 😂
It feels like the game wants to be Undertale in terms of wacky rpg but also dark in places but it just ends up with both halves clashing instead of melding. The game peaked for me just after you get your first Goblin and fight the guy with the amazing battle music, but soon after it all seems to go meh
Yeah...but the music is good!!!
@@BananaJr0_oits alright
Finally something about knuckle sandwich. I heard about this game launch day and it just drew me in. I've yet to finish it but what I've pkaued feels crazy as hell
This game reminds me a lot of homestuck where its trying so.hard to be wacky that it just ends up saying nothing
I was thinking the same thing. Creativity is important, but you can’t fully throw out structure if you’re still trying to tell an impactful story.
As a person who has waited years for this game and played this game when it came out, my big thing was that it's a game which humor and plot developments surprised me and me laugh a lot that it felt like it was messing with me, in a good way. Though I agree the story could use some improvements and more time with the main cast is very much needed, I really enjoyed this game and it'll be in my mind for a long time.
Also some new plot developments happen when replaying the game that I've noticed involving the Mysterious Man in the beginning.
Gecko Time is a great choice for video endings! What a cute little critter!
Feels like it needs a DLC or a sequel to finish some plot points
Nice review! also thank you for Gecko Time, a great new segment for the channel
I remember watching Vinny of Vinesauce play the demo. Surprised they didn't just stick with the original demo, but very excited now.
21:03 that's actually puzzle league which is a neat game with a weird localization history with it first being ported as a yoshi game called tetris attack, then the n64 version being ported as a pokemon game based off the anime called pokemon puzzle league. and the game boy color version also being pokemon called pokemon puzzle challenge
then you add the layer that no one really calls it puzzle league much anymore since it normally gets attributed to the Pokemon Specific Retexture so it's mostly just called Panel de Pon
35:14 More videos need Gecko Time™️.
I love Knuckle sandwich dearly didnt keep up with the updates on it too much but was excited since I discovered it on tiktok in 2021 and the release announcement took my by suprise. Played trough it twice with it having multiple fixes at this point. I get the criticisms you present its fair there are flaws to it especially at the end, but I love the creativity it shows and on the official Knux discord is full of amazing talented people that has great community. Im super greatful that more people can talk about it atleast in some way to reach more people.
As someone who has replayed this game a bunch (even if i used the skip battles option in some playthroughs lol) it's nice to hear your own experience with it. Knuckle sandwich is a game with many many great ideas that inspire me a looot but yeah I gotta agree that I've had the most fun with this game the first time I played, hell the puzzles at the end weren't too bad for me for some reason??? but then they were sluggish in my other playthroughs after ??? whatever.
It's a weird game i like so it's interesting to hear people talk about their experiences on it, hope this video brings the spot light to it. anyways i'm about to play knuckle sandwich again so yknow, good video. i like dolus
Why do you replay it? Is it worth it? I already played it once
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I highly recommend Lunarlux, another Indie rpg that takes inspiration from MMBN, Starforce and Mario & Luigi
The stat inconsistencies sound like this took inspiration from Sticker Star, which unless you know how to fix it, never take from sticker star
I think the game is meant to be a horror comedy, also cute gecko.
Finally, a YIIKLIKE game
A NOTE ABOUT THE INVENTORY SYSTEM: I get the feeling the dev(s) were going with the Mother 2 type inventory system where equipped items stay in your inventory and items needed for progress aren't given a seperate inventory. Just what I think though, as mother 2 is an inspiration for many indie titles.
Yeah, I got that feeling too, except in Earthbound you had like 15 spaces per character, so it becomes more limiting than a game from the 90s that was already limiting by that time period.
I just finished so my thoughts aren't super together. I definitely agree that the story needed fleshing out, and that you don't get to feel powerful at any point, as monsters don't respawn. It feels like the focus was mainly the battles, I do hope Andy does get to make more games though!
I wanna play this game so bad but the funniest thing in the world to me is that Earthbound's inventory system influenced this game as much as its tone did
I thought earthbound had no influence on the tone? Am I remembering wrong?
@@foursidekm Oh, maybe not
I think I saw it listed on the site but it's probably not a main influence or anything
Idk, I didn't play the demo
@@MapleMilk apparently the creator actually kinda dislikes earthbound
@@foursidekm That's actually funny because of the whole "wacky rpg" group it will inevitably be lumped into like I accidentally did
I still think the limited inventory is funny, though because NES and SNES RPGs specifically had this issue and we basically ironed it out by now
@@foursidekmno wonder the game sucks
joke
I enjoy your weird stuff.
Take your time. I enjoy your voice and everything. Love your compilations
I always love the games you recomend, but just like Moon and Everhood, i guess I'll have to go play them and then watch your video if I wanna enjoy them to the fullest.
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theres another recent rpg thats pretty good and successfully manages to have some well balanced fun and seriousness
In Stars and Time
Glad you’re going off with an rpg. Hope you do well
Well, it looks like we will have to wait for "Other: Her loving embrace" to see if those devs get these type of ideas better. I hope you cover it when it's released.
Thanks for the review!
This game has one of the best initial setups I've ever seen but it's thrown away for a "solve this mystery and become a hero" plot, and then the bad guys are not the bad guys but it's the other bad guys but it's the other other bad guys and... it ties together the initial plotline (the diner) with the "real" plotline (1000 Futures) in such an unsatisfying way, which is sad because the story had many cool things going for it.
I still liked it though, some things (mostly inventory, level design and movement) need a bit (or maybe a lot) of polishing but the game itself is fun, the characters are cool and the humour is right up my alley.
The game's basically a messy passion project which expresses what the dev enjoys the most from videogames as a whole, and I could see it, there is a charm to it. If the dev ever makes another game I'll be waiting for it, but they need to make sure to hire a writer and organize their ideas.
EDIT: I finished the game yesterday and the 1000 Future dungeon puzzles didn't get patched. Yeah, they are still kinda annoying.
This wasn't on my radar at all but now it's going to be one of the first games I check out on my Steam Deck when it arrives today. Sounds like it has the potential to be a great indie gem once the kinks get ironed out but what's there already seems pretty compelling for someone like me.
Argh….hate it when a games finale kinda sucks more than the rest of a game
Woo here we goo!
I think The Goblin realm is a reference to The Goblin Universe, the idea that there is an unseen link between the conscious and unconscious world that allows for unexplainable anomalies to exist and be processed by people that come into contact with them. Last Podcast on The Left did a whole episode about it.
Edit: Also, the guy who came up with The Goblin Universe, FW Holiday, died before he could really put the pieces of his theory together. The book on the theory was published posthumously without his consent.
I'd love to play this...Just as soon as they bring it to Switch or PS5!
Not sure I’m ready for another monger backed rpg after omori
It's like you are telling me to play this game but then you are reminding me of every area the game fails at every minute
It's complicated, like the bulk of it was still enjoyable and outweighs the negatives by just a bit but as this is a review I have to cover it all.
@@TheRpgMonger it just feels like if you have to put up with so much, maybe it's not worth playing. I don't get the message that it's worth it or that it outweights the negatives, what I get is that you are trying to be nice
It's absolutely a case of what aspects you care about more. Like for me the humor of the game carried a lot of it and the battle system helped too, so even despite me not enjoying other parts of the game it was still fun enough to be an overall positive experience. Though if the game's good aspects aren't enough to smooth it all over for you then you definitely won't enjoy it.
Loved Gecko time.
GECKO TIME!!!!!!!!!!. i hope gecko time stays and isnt a one time bit
Hopefully, Other: Her Loving Embrace will turn out better.
This game makes me think of YIIK and Homestuck way too much to give it a chance. Thank you for making this video, or I probably would have bought it and left a negative review.
I value narrative a lot and don’t care for stories that drop the ball in that regard.
RPG Monger: *complains about limited inventory where equiped items stay in your bag*
Me: Oh so like Earthbound
RPG Monger: *keeps complaining because you can't stock items and have to thus constantly use consumables to pick up new ones*
Me: Oh so like Earthbound
Monger: *complains about how the final boss fight is scripted and you can barely do damage to it outside*
Me: OH. SO LIKE EARTHBOUND
In all seriousness this game seems like its what Yiik wanted to be, a huge send up of Earthbound that recreates its quirks in a mostly endearing way.
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i've only just finished the part of the video without spoilers, but i think if i ever get a better computer that i'm gonna get this game and play it for myself
B.O.O is currently on hiatus, sadly.
It's one I've been looking foward to play for a long time.
You should check Oddventure out, though.
It's a great game, but it doesn't resolve itself well, like a game of yugioh where someone sets off like 6 cards at once and you have to figure out the order of which they resolve... and then you kind of just don't, and forget?
Dude the inventory system is definitely based off the one from EarthBound not pokemon lol
Finally
Yiik but good
Yiik but okay
Not gonna watch the vid through due to spoilers, but im interested. Combat gives me the most obvious Mother 3/Undertale vibe, and i enjoy those ganes, so ill most likely like this song. Also, i hope your move, pursuit of art and coding and college goes well for you!
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She's Adachi
Next is shovel knight
When I first saw this video, I wanted to check out the game and finish it before watching the rest, but I started to get burned out around chapter 6 so I figured I might as well watch the rest. Seeing what comes next, I'm glad I stopped playing.
Enormous spoilers for the game:
I love the way its story uses little unexpected design choices as big story beats, like Mister Apricot looking for a cure for the curse that turned him into a fruit that I personally never thought mych of. The other big example is the revelation that the simple blank flat colour npc's aren't just irrelevant characters to fill the world, but lobotomized zombies
Looks like a Yiik
Aka the better YIIK Modern RPG timeline. ;)
This game is overall fun but flawed, I enjoyed it very much even though the epilouge was...different,I still like it tho! The combat system,The music,HECK even the characters!! Not a fan of the puzzles. I appreciate the game,maybe its worth the wait...
please.... more gecko time....
I was so into the idea of this game... until the limited inventory came up. How the fuck is that still a design choice that is made in 2024 ffs
this game is a mixed bag imo, i love the art style changes and enemy designs, the ost slaps and the battle system is really interesting, but i just didn’t care about the story or characters at all
This game kinda sounds like it sucks? I don't think the humor is for me, to be honest, but also. The plot isn't anything, it's just a convoluted mess of disconnected moments that never come together into anything of substance. Not to mention that it was so ridiculously obvious from the beginning that the "evil team" were always the good guys and you were being tricked into working for the bad guy. And randomly killing literally every character other than the main protagonist and main villain was a terrible choice. The ending of the game feels more like it was plot twists for the sake of plot twists rather than any actual interesting storytelling. The thing with Cannibal Wario was literally just them needing a plot twist for the demo and then not actually caring about how that connected to the main game. This game dev has a lot of potential, but maybe they need to get someone else to write the story next time, or at least write the story before making the game.
The art style, story, and combat system sound unique and enticing. However, I’m definitely gonna wait til patches come out since this game sounds like an anti-QOL mess of a game. Limited item space, tanky enemies, and unfair puzzles sound very cringe
This was so frustating since I followed the game for so long. But frankly after forcing myself to finish it I have to admit I did not like this game at all. I can see all the potential, I love the art style, the wackiness, the creativity, the music, the detail and all, but the story is just a mess. The fights get tiresome after a while given they take so long, I actually ended up skipping most regular battles by the boat part. I hope the developer gets to make more games as he can just improve and solidify all these great ideas I know he has.
"Promo sm" 🌸