What X6/X7 Does To A Mega Man Newcomer
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2024
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0:00:00 Mega Man X6
0:33:56 Mega Man X7 - Ігри
Hey guys apologies for the lack of videos this year so far. Like I said at the end of this one, I haven't been able to do much while recovering from double jaw surgery. However as I only have some stiffness/numbness left in my bottom lip and chin, expect a normal video from me later this month! Hopefully this little stream highlight video tides you all over until then! If you all enjoy it then maybe I'll occasionally put more of these out when I have months I can't otherwise put videos out in.
My Condolences
X7 has a New Game+ mode, and it is so much more fun when you have someone fully upgraded. Sure, it's still not as fun as an actually good Mega Man game, but it's much better than when you start the game brand new.
Fun fact: the reason Sigma looks like a zombie in X6 is because there was a mandate from the higher ups on how he shouldn't be fully brought back and it the team took it literally.
This is presumably why he has a similar design when not transformed in X7 and why he looks completely different in X8
I understand bro you still human like any of us and you know when to take your breaks especially after a surgery
Hey, I found your stuff for the first time thanks to this vid. MMX series is a long time favourite of mine. Glad to re-experience the trials and tribulations of X6 vicariously.
Jaw surgery can be tough! Hope you get the majority of feeling back in your mouth!
I liked the part where the hyenard clones said "its burnin' time". And then they burned Zero and Axl to the ground. Truly peak fiction
Funny enough that sounds leagues less cringe than "Morbin'" XDXDXDXDXD
Real
@@TeryJones Morbin Freeman would be saddened to hear.
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Nice
I just pictured zero and axl doing the family guy death pose in flame hyenard's stage 😭
Did you know that in the American version of X7, you actually deal less damage than in the European and Japanese versions? Nobody knows why, but the entire damage chart is different. I played the European version when I replayed on Legacy Collection and it was kind of a fun shitty game instead of a slog.
They used to make difficulty changes like that to the US versions of games a lot back in the day. Increased enemy health/attack, decreased player stats, less exp, expensive items etc. Supposedly it was so kids would have to make repeat rentals to beat games so video stores got more money. I had thought it had stopped by the PS2 era though.
Oh, chat made sure to mention that a number of times during the X7 playthrough.
@@gaminggoddess85 or they might do the opposite, like what they did to Final Fantasy 4 iirc, reducing the whole thing difficulty.
"CAN YOU HEAR ME ZERO?!"- Alia, probably
@@Eclin I can't remember if FF4 Easytype changed any stats, but it did remove a lot of magic, skills and items that I guess might have been too complicated for little kids to figure out how to use like the Dispel spell and Dark Cecil's signature HP-draining attacks.
Become insane and ignore the redemption of megaman x with x8. This is what it does to a new comer.
Honestly starting with X6 or X7 is the worth thing a newcomer could do x)
It's the best way to never want to play a Mega Man game
It’s a shame that X8 gets overlooked thanks to X6 and X7 being mostly jank. It was a nice step in the right direction and it also sucks that Capcom never followed up on it.
X8 is awesome! I just wish its levels were less reliant on agency-decreasing gimmicks. The two Ride Chaser stages, the scrolling stage, the giant robot chase stage… and then Optic Sunflower is just a TOTAL disgrace. That leaves only 3 traditional stages, and one of them is taken up mostly by clunky mecha sections.
@@Dreigonix my ONLY complaint is the spikes. While not as awful as x6, it's still an issue imo.
He ended up liking X8 quite a lot
Watching you get upset at the GOOD X6 stages was wild. Was just thinking the whole time, "Wait until he hits the bad ones."
Man I sure do love watching a moogle get helplessly drunk while suffering
an ADORABLE moogle getting drunk. the pom pom and ears make it so cute
BURN! You have awakened me from the coma caused by MY SUFFERING, and so as thanks I shall sing you the song of family!
HWOOOOO!
BURN!
BURN TO THE GROUND!
BURN TO THE BURN!
HWOOOOO!
BURN TO THE GROUND!
BURN TO THE GROUND!
BURN TO THE GROUND!
BURN TO THE GROUND!
BURN!
BURN!
BURN!
BURN!
i agree
Spot on 🤣
I remember never questioning how Zero came back as a kid. I was just happy he was back
The moment you understand HOW, you need to hide yourself while repairing yourself.
the moment monger choses blaze heatnix stage im holding back my laughter at what is about to happen
I love how Hyenard is just there as a "Live Reaction" after the Hyenard fight XD and then how there's a 3D one that joins them towards the end of the playthrough in the background.
The amount of copium when you defeated Gate was a masterpiece
15:50 Don't you know? Donuts come by the dozen
Axl having a roll move on X7 makes this game the Dark Souls of Megaman X games
No, lol, just no. (That honor goes to mmz, just for difficulty, and the fact that its a actually a good game)
The Hyenard fight sent me into a laughing fit. Man I felt so bad for you. Hearing “BURN” and “BURN IT TO THE GROUND” over and over again is something I’d never wish on my worst enemy.
Yes, nothing worse than being mildly annoyed. That would really show ‘em.
@@peen2804 You're not very fun at parties huh?
Somehow Zero returned.
Somehow Sigma returned too.
43:58 You know you're here for this
I didn’t know, but I sure was…
BURN TO THE GROUND
So what I got from this was mostly just BURN IT TO THE GROUND!
As someone who likes X6, a lot of the improvements I would make would be minor like letting you exit alternate routes without having to commit sudoku, shortening gaps to make stages Shadow Armor accessible or make Gate vulnerable to normal weapons like he is in DiVE. When I reach Blaze Heatnix, all I can say is "go back to the drawing board!"
Have you heard of Mega Man X6 Tweaks?
@@dafthumano yes, it's really cool
For Blaze Heatnix, just don't make the stage a battery of battles with a bad mini-boss. Almost anything would be better than fighting that doughnut five times to beat the stage (twice more to get to the alternate route, where there's a Life-Up, an Armor part and a Sub-Tank, and one last time if you want to save all the Reploids).
The ironic part about X6 is how much replay value it sort of has too. You can talk about the things that went wrong with its level design, but for some reason, they are still fun to go through. Either because you decided to own up to the failure and be numb to it or you cheated and got the Ultimate Armor at the beginning to ease the pain a little more.
are you real?
Mega Man X6 is difficulty and grammatical pain.
Mega Man X7 is pain in every form imaginable and unthinkable. When I still was Kettendrache on Twitch (Do not question about what happened to that account) I was in an constant emotional dread before you got Hyenard because of how infamous is he, X7 has so many bad things, is the ultimate Black Ship of the X Saga.
I consider them equally painfull, but X7 is painful in its pacing. So slow for a platformer, and the 3D segments didn't do it for anyone.
I think you got the two mixed up
I'm being honest that I do tolerate more X6 than X7.
In X6 there were many problems like the bad localization being just a pain and the individual problems that the levels had, and the rise of difficulty was erratic.
X7 on the other hand... it just give us Axl. I love Axl but sincerely X7 didn't need to go 3D, 2.5D would be fine but it has so many problems that is just an accident that even exists.
@@proximaeon I love how people who debate on wether X6 or X7 is worse can universally agree that they’re the bottom of the mega man barrel.
@@falconheavy0533 I could see X6 being a genuinely good game with more time and actual effort placed into its development. I'd even go as far to say it had potential to be the best X game, and this is from someone who likes X5 more and believes it's in a similar situation.
With X7, I just don't see this. There's just so much wrong there, it would be easier to just *burn it to the ground* and redo things entirely from scratch, which is exactly what they did for X8
Here lies Monger's sanity. It tried making the donuts.
There is an actual plausible explanation for what happened between X5 and X6 for Zero. Basically, the final stage of X5 takes place in Cyber Space. Which is not the real world. After everything goes down in X5, X is forcibly removed from Cyber Space while Zero's body remained there. Now remember that this Cyber Space is ZERO's cyber space. So, Zero being in his own cyber space... wouldn't it make sense that he could stay hidden, and heal himself there? Bad translation aside, him surviving really isn't that insane. Remember that X was just as badly injured as Zero at the end of X5 and he survived.
Finally someone acknowledge's the fact that X was in a worse situation than Zero. Remember Zero was conscious while X was knocked the fuck out.
Plus, as they can just regenerate with energy, being in cyberspace, where the energy required to do things is basically zero (like with cyber elves not dying in cyber space), zero's systems can basically give him infinite automatic repair while there
My theory is Isoc repaired him. It goes to explain Isoc's obsession with Zero and knowledge of his systems inside and out. I believe Zero told X he repaired himself because he also didn't know exactly what happened, or he did and wanted to avoid X suspecting anything.
@@mrapplegate4065 This is the most plausible. Remember the last time Zero was practically destroyed. Who fixed him and gave him upgrades? Serges. In the original jp text when X beats Serges, Serges essentially states that he is actually Dr.Wily come back via uploading his brain into a reploid body. Then, recall the pre-fight dialogue with Sigma in X5. He hints that he's been talking to Dr.Wily. Then remember the last time we see Isoc is his lifeless but still functioning husk. We can say with some degree of certainty that Isoc was Dr.Wily again using a new body.
@@mrapplegate4065 Isoc is confirmed to be an ai of doctor wily like the dr light ai in the capsules so that's why he's obsessed and why he's so knowledgeable, he literally built zero
X7 saved my wife from sickness
He hate you now
It now dawned on me that Axl's voice actress is the announcer from Tekken 8's trailers.
Looking at the thumbnail gave me war flashbacks.Hyenard, Gate, the fucking donuts. Memories I would not wish to relive
You're a funny guy. x)
I listened to the video more than I watched it, but I appreciated the editing and art that I saw.
Poor Monger, facedown among the booze and donuts...
I am really happy to start seeing the resurgence of Mega Man content being flooded around haha. Like I just started revisiting the X series for a marathon, now Battle Network is back on modern consoles with online play, and now the big guns are talking about the blue bomber too. Man we are defnititely living in the good timeline haha.
So which physically impaired you more, the surgery or x7?
hyenard
Im impressed he beat the donuts buster only, thats really hard to do
This man will hate Donuts for the rest of his days.
This the suffering of a man on the Hyenard grindset.
megaman x6 was my first ever megaman I ever played!
I rented it from a local rental store as a kid.
I didn't know how to play but I liked the anime designs and the ost.
Burn it to the ground
This was a fun collection of highlights, I’d love more
Mega Man X7 somehow managed to even screw-up X's character & his inclusion in the game
Ok, so the bosses level up as you kill bosses so Ground Scarvich actually can do more, it's just everybody fights him first or second for some reason and that early all he does is roll robot poop around.
Narratively Sigma coming back is fine in X6, it's the last bits of his mostly destroyed mind crawling out from Reploid hell and he's zombified then has a final demonic looking form to signify his mindless hatred and X or Zero eradicates the last traces of Sigma forever - for real... until X7 and X8 revive him like he was never reduced to such a pathetic, broken state. If we get X9, you know he'll be back like nothing happened again despite him permanently dying in X5, Capcom actually, quite skillfully, writing him back into X6 without contradicting lore to kill him permanently and completely, and then killing him permanently again in X8.
X6 gets to have Sigma back for the music alone
I seriously don't get how some people think that x6 is the worst when x7 exists. Sure, x6 is pretty bad too, but x7 can't even be considered a game anymore, it's that bad ☠️
I admit I'm an X6 apologist (an amazing OST will let me forgive a lot) but it never made me rage and throw the game case against the wall so hard that it broke like X7 did.
X command mission and X8 grant your villain wish.
This was fantastic! Definitely do more of these stream highlights. I've only seen I think one other video from you, but I had a ton of fun watching this.
X6 still one of my favorite X games despite the jank. Think it was the 3rd or 4th megaman game I had played as a kid. Loved the music, character designs, abilities for both X and Zero, the extra parts you can equip, and the new armors that were introduced. I actually loved the idea of certain stages effecting the next stage you go into, since in X1 that sort of idea worked out really cool, however the Nightmare System in X6 was unfortunately pretty terribly implemented making some levels even more of a pain to get through as opposed to in X1 where most stage changes were actually beneficial to the player.
Didn't like the way some parts of the stages were constructed, being stuck in a room with high-max with no weaponry to defeat him, losing reploids forever to spam repeated nightmare virus guys, and painstakingly figuring out how to make "that jump" with the shadow armor in the second half of the sigma stage. Definitely there was frustrating jank especially on first playthrough, but the aspects I love about it still make it one of my favorites. Like, at least I move responsively unlike molasses ass X7. And yo, if you got the original game on PS1 it had that sick opening song that's not in the collection version!
Nightmare gnats need to go though and Zero suicide nose-dive Sentsuizan while you're trying to save those reploids in Mijinion's stage was some extra bullshit.
100% BN4 is tedious
100% X6 is torture.
It’s like asking would you like to spend your entire week working or would you like to dip Your whole hand In boiling oil. Sure one is over faster But it hurts a lot more to experience.
X7?……we do not speak of that…….that thing
if you wanna know how to make megaman x6 fun, play zero and abuse glitches, there are 2 main glitches to use with him
one that makes you invincible (achieved by interrupting Ensuizan by destroying the platform you are standing on or sliding off of it (this can even be done in the final fight, because sigma spawns a destructable platform))
and one that makes you shred everything (done by activating guard shell, as long as an enemy is in contact with both the guard shell and the z saber they will take damage every frame, to the point where you can two shot sigma)
Oh shit…I forgot about Gate’s stage, like the 3rd Stage has one Particular spot where ZERO just Cannot Progress AT ALL!
You're trapped in a room with Hyenard and High Max. What would you do?
This game as Regular X is fucking impossible
To quote a great master "WHAT WERE THEY THINKING??"
X6 might be the funniest game of all time
A salute to all our fallen Megamen, those who beat every stage in X6 and still lost the roll on the canon shot.
I can't relate; I got the roll off of one stage. Didn't beat the game because it's X6, but still, holy cow was that game made wrong.
It was my first Mega Man game in general, so to me it's the best and every other game is wrong, even if I never beat Metal Shark Prayer's stage to this day. I don't have to be able to beat the game to think it's the best, unironically. You are not entitled to beat a game.
X5
@@genyakozlov1316 You just threw the whole whole damn fishing pole into the lake, buddy, that's not how you set your bait properly
Those 2 fire levels in X6 & X7 were absurdly bad
Oh my god, this was nuts. I'm glad you dedicated so much time to flame hyenard, that boss was a nightmare.
5 doughnuts... dear god
I enjoyed this type of videos, it would be nice to see you're first experience with X8
At least X8 is next. I think the game is really good and makes some much-needed improvements, but unfortunately it was really too little too late
He already played X8! Check the vod channel!
playing as the girls in X8 was super fun, i love that, and Lumine being the twist boss was AMAZING, because sigma isn't the true villain for once, but if 6 had been the last game narratively i'd be totally fine.
Really liked the video! Glad you're feeling better
1:03:24 What about Metal Blade against Flash Man (whose weakness is Crash Bomber) and Metal Man himself (whose weakness is Quick Boomerang) in the Wily Castle rematch?
It might not be that useful against most other Robot Masters but the fact it's strong against Metal Man himself.... Just...
Burn to the ground...
BURN!!!! BURN!!!!! AWOOOOOOOOO!!!!
TRI-FORMATION!!!!!
43:19 Well you didn't save me, I'm Mathew, not Matthew.
I seriously wish Megaman Maverick Hunter X was more successful.
Cause it wasn’t suppose to stop at X1. The PSP remakes were aiming to fix the X series so that the Story could make more sense and be a lot more consistent. Then Capcom happened.
Edit: Forgot to mention they were also going to fix some Gameplay issues and set ups from Megaman X3, X4, X5, & X6.
i actually really like these highlights you should def upload more highlights
X7 Zero sounds like Shadow the Hedgehog
The only thing I like about Flame Hyenard is the design and concept, the execution on the other hand was a pain, especiakly if you don't know the gimmick.
43:58 PAIN
The Donut mini boss is actually doesn't annoy me lol, feels easier with Zero for me.
(Bad translation lol).
X6 may have a ton of bullshit but on repeated plays, it's actually kinda fun since you can expect the bullshit and act accordingly and actually enjoy most of the designs, just me though.
X7 is just ass.
I honestly Like X7 way more that X6 only because X5 is my favorite game in the franchise, I like what X7 Does from the perspective of someone who didn't want a X Game after X5, which is probably why I hate X6 Way more.
I enjoy X7 for trying something diferent, Like it was bad, but it was funny bad, X6 Makes me Sad, it makes me upset, Janky 3D Platformers are funny to me, but the bastarditation of X5, my favorite Megaman game actively angers me.
It helps a lot that I know how to control the Jank in X7, it is a fun game when you know what are you doing and the legacy collection took the loading screens so it speeds up the process, and the story is not bad, the biggest problem is X and how of a terrible he behaves.
X6 is a game that it looks like you're in control, but you aren't, it looks like a Sprite Base Megaman, but it has the worst level design I've seen in a 2D Platformer.
Well, this was certainly a pleasant surprise
I liked the video, you should post more streams!
I don’t care how controversial this opinion is. I will always prefer X7 to X6. X6 has way more infuriating level design,a part system where you can lose any and all chance of getting said parts because of an enemy that can go through solid walls,and it remains to date the only game that requires a part or armor to get through and then proceeds to penalize you for getting said parts/armor by placing a pit in the middle of Gates agonizingly long second stage thus forcing you to quit the stage and go get that specific part then go through the stage again and FIGHT HIGH MAX AGAIN before delivering one last middle finger by making you go through gates tedious slog of a battle. X7 doesn’t randomly revive a previously dead character out of nowhere and justify it with a typo. X7 doesn’t have Blaze Heatnix’s stage. X7 > X6 any day of the week.
X6>X5>Maverick Hunter X>X2>X3>Xtreme 2>X7>X8>X>Xtreme>X4
I really don't like X4
You have brain worms
X7 is kind of a "so bad it's good" thing to me. It's a goofy romp where you can just laugh at how much it fails at everything it tries while not pulling your hair out because it's really not that hard at all. X6 is just so, so god damn bad. It is devoid of any joy one could gleam from it. Unless it's your "first X game" I seriously don't see how someone could gleam a tangible amount of joy from it it just sucks.
@@typh3u590 I agree completely. There were many instances where I burst out laughing due to the voice acting. That was more enjoyment then I ever got out of X6.
@@genyakozlov1316I'm surprised X8-X4 are your least favorite games.
1:06:43 - 1:06:48 best quote ever
57:17 What a ham!
Mega Man X7: Be the robot X!
...That Eva meme doesn't really work here does it?
I waited for that reaction to the donut for so long... worth it
As someone that played through X6 as their first X game unparadoxically.
It's prepare me for BS on the other X game and it turn all of them into easy mode due to how it a massive hard training course.
Looking back at it, I find it weird that most people say that beating the game with Shadow Armor was such a problem due to that one jump because Shadow Armor can't air dash because I remember I beat the game with the Armor after I got it without the Blade armor and just keep using till the final boss since it Ninja Armor and the only thing I got.
There's a romhack called X6 tweeks that tries to fix most of the problems including level design.
Fun fact: The development team spent more time inventing the name "Mijinion" than they spent on the level design of the entire game
8:06 I have no idea how Ice Burst works so for a second there I thought you were going to try to build a bridge like using Kaeya in Genshin Impact to freeze water sequentially to get over it. I once got to an island I was supposed to glide to with Amber (her passive ability reduces stamina use while gliding)
My first X game was X7, back when it first released.... even now, after playing all of the X series, it's still my favorite.
thats unfortunate
@@JonahZgo nah I love the game, no one else has to, and that's ok :)
how.
@@Racc_Oon it isn't that bad, i actually beated the game a few times to 100% and i enjoyed it
@@jb0258 Nostalgia clouds your judgment and that’s ok as x6 is my fav and first lol
Definitely down for this again
Here's the thing with X6 and X7. X6 had good ideas implemented poorly (save for Heatnix's dang donuts). X7 was cursed from start to end. The team that the game was given to had absolutely no experience with any of the X games or Megaman in general. And then were the questionable decisions regarding the camera angle and unlock conditions for X. There's a Matt Mcmuscles video on X7.
As for the story of X5 to X6, the Eurasia Colony or its debris (depending how your playthrough pans out) falls to earth and creates the final area of the game which is so unstable that the cyber world and reality mixed together. Ignoring the other endings, the main point is that X is found and repaired and Zero goes missing.
Moving to X6, Gate finds a piece of Zero among the wreckage of the Colony which eventually infects him. While researching the fragment, he is joined by Issoc and his personal creation High Max. The result of Gate's research is the Nightmare Virus which rewrites the DNA data (a.k.a. soul) of reploids and forcibly makes them mavericks (which is an upgrade to the Erasure Incident on Laguz Island where the DNA data was simply being stolen from reploids' bodies leaving them as husks; plot of Megaman Xtreme 2 btw). Gate and Issoc frame Zero as the source of the Nightmare virus while they pose as the only ones who can cure the virus. Seeing as we find Zero upon defeating the fake, we can assume that Issoc fixed Zero. In addition to that, we can assume that Issoc is Dr.Wily's spare body like Serges was back in X2 (this was in the original JP text that wasn't translated to english) because nobody else but Wily can properly fix Zero given how wrecked he got at the end of X6.
X8 gives you your wish so long as you aren't playing on easy.
I was using save states incredibly liberally and I still cant believe I ever actually made it through X6. While the boss fight with Gate is soul crushing, and the Donuts in Blaze Heatnix’ stage are bullshit, my least favourite part of the experience was getting half way through one of the late game stages, only to be forced to restart because it wasn’t possible to go any further with the armor I was using.
TIME TO GET SERIOUS
I love X6 because it made me and my dad happy while we talked shit about it.
I never knew i needed rpgmonger cursing until today
BURN TO DA GROUND
1:09:20 yep lmao. This was the point in X7 where I just completely gave up as a kid
Pro tip with the donuts use the falcons giga attack
1:08:50 Mega Man X 64
I have to specify X because Mega Man 64 is a port of Mega Man Legends.
One thing I noticed is that the back of the box implies that x was kidnapped when he is just sitting on the couch watching fox news
BURN BURN BURN BURN IT TO THE GROUND
The falcon armor has the giga attack in x6 you could have used that for the fire snakes.
26:24 Thankfully, I was using my headset
X6 was the first X game i beated so i ok with a Cbt section, also just a fun thing there a brazilian stramer who have a channel point reward that if someone pick he have to kill hyanard, no matter what stream he doing he will have to stop what he doing and go kill hyanard
Metal Shark's charged weapon one shots the png donuts if aligned correctly. it could have saved you so much pain xD
X6 AND X7? Welcome to hell. Enjoy your complementary cup of lava and spike covered chair
Seriously, Blaze Heatrix’s stage needs to be redesigned and shorten! Cause that Metal Donut boss Should Never have Been Implemented!
Sigma: You thought I was dead. Well too bad. I'm alive.
X6 was my introduction to the series so I can’t bash it is it a good game no but the characters and world kept me interested in the series went on to legends and then battle network after
Why have prisons when this exists?
I Have 100% both. X6 was hell X7 was a Bit annoying because The saving reploids but was not too bad
X6 is not for beginner MMX players, it should be the last MM game you play, and with that experience behind you, its actually pretty fun
The next time you play x7 go to the options menu and put rapid fire on for axl
Drunken Angry at a bad game moogle has finally supplanted Fast Talking, Street Smart Slam Dancing Moogle as my favorite Moogle.
X7 is not to be that bad once you get used to it.
(But maybe this is Stockholm Syndrome talking. My first time with the game, I did 3 playthroughs of it. Each time using only one of the three characters and 100% them.)
It's bad. There's oddly potential in it which came in the form of Mmx8 but it's bad. Playable, intro stage can banger music but that's it.