Kommt, ihr Töchter, helft mir klagen (Matthäus-Passion JS Bach)
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- Опубліковано 19 кві 2011
- Johann Sebastian Bach (1685-1750)
Matthäus-Passion BWV244
Kommt, ihr Töchter, helft mir klagen
Choir and Orchestra of Collegium Vocale Ghent
Direcció musical Philippe Herreweghe
28 de març de 2010, Kölner Philharmonie
Bach - one of the voices of heaven.
And what an excepcional conductor is Herreweghe!
This is one of the most moving versions I have heard so far. Everything is precise, perfect and still sounding so human, so dramatic. The Matthäus-Passion's opening is, in my view, an exceptional, opera-type opening, surpassing even Mozart's openings.
A part that always has me verging on crying is "Seht! Wohin? - auf unsre Schuld!" (Look! At what? At our fault!" with the preceding very dark modulation and chords.
I usually sing the chorus 1 bass. Although it is possibly the most beautiful thing I've ever sung, I sometimes feel sad I was never a singer as a boy so I've never been able to sing the children's choir bit (sung here by the sopranos in the middle). I always get the shivers when they join. So simple yet magical.
The Choir 1 bass Score is the starting motif, and the entire base of the starting piece l.
Easter 2020. A ray of hope at a dark time. Thanks J.S. Bach, the master of music
keep praying
@@jandamskier6510 I´m from 6 months in the future, and oh boy, things didn´t get better
There's a crack in everything, that's how the light comes out.
A ray of hope for all time!
Utterly beautiful. A world without the great Bach is unthinkable.
Something crisp and clean about this performance. Totally captures that sense of precision I associate with Bach. Yet still sublimely moving.
Самый красивый хорал Баха! Самый глубокий и проникающий в самое сердце
DAS ist Musik!
Bach lived and breathed music. He showed us music's possibilities. How he was able to compose so much of the greatest music ever written remains a mystery (at least to me).
[Bach lebte und atmete Musik. Er zeigte uns die Möglichkeiten der Musik. Wie er in der Lage war, so viel von der großartigsten Musik zu komponieren, die jemals geschrieben wurde, bleibt (zumindest für mich) ein Rätsel.] [Google translate]
Ich bin dieser Meinung!
Beyond beautiful
No one does depth and nostalgia like Herreweghe.
purifying experience. I feel lighter after listening to this.
Whoever is tired of Bach is tired of life. Søren Bendtsen.
I searched on google who is Søren Bendtsen ;)
Bachmaniacs are probably tired of opening their minds to all the great composers who came before and after their idol...
@@evilfather4267 ME!
@@bumbumDK yeah when I saw your name at the end of the sentence, i thought for a second maybe you are a philosopher or something else that i didn't know.
Søren Kirkegaard, a Danish philosopher, probably the name you should search for
The bass in this masterpiece is splendid!!
To me this is the greatest performance on record of this masterpiece. I have been listening to it on record for ages.
Sad also how the current pandemic makes public concerts like this a distant memory.
I just want to thank my mother for giving me a longplaying rekord (LP) with this work of choir - before I even knew who Bach was . She obviously knew me better than I did myself. I am so grateful to my dear mother, but I can’t thank her- because she is not here on earth anymore , miss you my dear mother; and thank you again for giving me this knowledge of music ❤️
music of heaven played by great professionals
I am from the United States but I LOVE LOVE this musiic!! I gave a CD back in the day when I visited him that had this and many more lovely works of ABSOLUTE the best music...and it made my elderly father close his beatifal blew eyes and nod to the cadence of this work... I am so so so THANKFUL I had a lovely, genuine, kind, loving, intelligent, gifted, hard working, honest man who claimed me for his daughter and me...OH MY...YES ROBERT DONALD ...YOU WERE THE ONLY MAN AMONG MEN!!! you dressed impeccably, never EVER SAID AN UNKIND WORD ABOUT ANYONE ....YOU are MY DAD...AND I WILL FOREVER BE GRATEFUL TO HAVE HAD YOU IN MY LIFE...I miss you, Dad....especially our Saturday afternoon chats in the dining room, just you and me...yapping and chatting...over a plate of cheese, crackers, pickles...and a couple Cold beers.... I MISS YOU DAD!!!
this is music for god, whatever god is
This is so beatiful.
Magnifique, j'ai appris à écouter la bonne musique, merci
Erbarme Dich, O Jesu, Ermbarme Dich.
This is so beautiful, the first time listened to it I had tears in my eyes.
Simply magnificent!
In alles blijft Bach groots om te beluisteren !
Splendid! The most beautiful version I evered heared of this particular part, was at the final end of the movie THX 1138, an SF Movie from 1971. This made such a hugh impression on my as a young kid, that it became my favorite piece of Bach. Unfortunately I never find out which orchestra was performing int that particular version.
You might want to research Lalo Shifrin; maybe there is more to dig up about the studio recordings.
Here is the soundtrack as a starting point:
m.ua-cam.com/video/iKb-HH4oA_M/v-deo.html
One the best play JS Bach - Passion Mattew. Bravo!
Sin duda la versión que más me gusta, y el mejor director, maravillosa obra.
Love Bach's music🍃So beautiful
There has never been a better performance of this most stunning musical moment than this one, and I’ll stand by that!
Dieses Stueck ist mein taegliches “Brot”.
Lovely - thank you for posting.
Simplemente hermoso y celestial
Here's a totally uninformed opinion (although I do play piano and have sung in church choirs - not GREAT at either but not a novice) - I like it. A great deal. Enjoyed this post so much. Thank you for sharing with us.
% save time for gain the pain; oh son of god is hanging up on a kruzifix, ohohohohohhhooooooooooooooh; you won't regret it; god is in you all, the only king of world and the universe , ....what should we do with a queen, with a papa, we are the temple of god; ohohohoooooooooooooh;
Have love and peace ... :) ; greetings by ambros, gaz,austria,earth,milkyway
My first real encounter with classical music. Watching the movie THX1138, the end was astonishing for me. I can't describe the whole movie here, but very compact. In a future world where man are controlled by maschines, one person can escape. Leaving the underground city where he spend all his live, he climbs out of the there through a steep tunnel. And at the very end he opens the manhole cover and steps out, seeing for the first time the sun, which is going majestically down, coloring the world red and yellow. You can only see the silhouet of the man covering his eyes, and birds flying. And at the background this incredible music. Amazing!The music and image was burned in my young head and since then, I discovered the beauty of classical music.
Ronnie, why do you think the THX 1138 filmmakers decided on that particular piece for that scene? The scene is about finally gaining freedom and the piece is about mourning over Christ's passion. I don't get the connection between the two. Do you? Just curious.
@@lindacowles756 No connection
G'day, Ronnie! Wow, you were introduced not only to classical music through that film, but absolutely great music by Johann Sebastian Bach from his St. Matthew Passion. He's considered by some to be the greatest composer of all time. I suppose that the reason to use that particular selection for the escape scene could be simply providing great music for a great moment. The film, as I recall, was a student film by George Lucas.
Beautiful with so many many love fr Rotterdam nl Best ever
OH, do I like this version!
Bach era o cara mesmo!
Amazing
gr8 music, bach ist einfach grossartig! =)
....perfetto....
Extraordinary, lucid performance!
Go to church every Sunday
maybe it wasn't clear enough, but that is what i had in mind when i first wrote the comment. cheers!
Einstein has done an amazing job, conducting this movement.
Shalom!
best ever!!
Merci !
Phillippe smiles at about 1:16 because he has just heard a very unique harmonization by the very clever (and inspired) J S Bach....
Esto es absoluto.
wow thx for this
Best ever ever and ever groeten v uit Rotterdam nl 0
Devine music!
Wer versteht, was diese Musik aus Menschen macht (und welche Menschen solche Musik machen) versteht die Deutschen, im Guten wie im Bösen.
Robert De Niro: "When you love someone, you've gotta trust them, there's no other way"
His car:
Danke
Für die Matthäuspassion die absolute Referenz. Ein Geheimnis: es gibt keine Trennung von Solisten und Chorsängern..
Genau.
Und das, hat seine Gründe.
Zum denken.
@RealHogweed- look at what 1 Corinthians 1 to 11 says about inspiration.
I am very certain that we can take that very literally. Gods spirit is literally present when 2 or more people decide to pray for something in Jesus's Name - see Matthew 18:19 and 18:20. I have experienced that numerous times.
So what I am trying to say is this: It is very realistic to believe that Bach was doing the best he could to compose this music and was seriously inspired by God himself to get it done. Just like God's spirit is literally present in any church because there are multiple people present and praying.
Versione ottima >:)
Damn. Bernie Sanders really knows how to conduct
Symbolic Acts Love it!
ヘレヴェッヘのマタイ受難曲が私の基準になっている。
😊😊😊
Molto bello,grazie.
ah, i'd say that the indirect argument is all another story :) my point was that if this kind of music would be all a product of gods mind then we should be able to see people that never studied music theory compose this stuff. i'm sure Bach put a tremendous effort in composing his music, and then hundreds of years later people come and say: "NOPE. god did it."
Well, Bach dedicated his work to God and His glory. He is also remembered as having said that although people called him a composer, he merely wrote down the music God gave him.
good
да,именно!
:)
These disqualifications are needed?
Kommt, ihr Tötcher, helft mir klagen
Boki nabija preglede. III VIO muzicka skola josif marinkovic zrenjanin
And do you think Bach believed the latter? Personally, I don’t. However, coming back to your original post, every Christian, including Bach, would obviously affirm that “God is responsible for this” at the very least indirectly through creating this universe and sending us the Messiah (thus creating the basis of this piece) :p
i hate both the atheist and the religious comments about this music, this is the product of the sheer genious of a man, inspired by a god no more that Homers Iliad was inspired by the pagan gods. to say that god is responsible for this is an offense to bach himself, and to say this is bad only because it has a religious theme is madness. i can appreciate this, no matter if i'm atheist or not.
I'm tired of atheist comments trying to drag this divine music into their hopeless realm. Bach considered himself a humble servant to God.
He dedicated his whole work to the glory of God. Bach said: "Where there is devotional music, God is always at hand with his gracious presence!"
Looks like you are offending Bach.
it depends on what we intend by "inspired". of course the theme was inspired by the idea of some god. but when i wrote that cooment i was thinking about people that believe this music is a direct product of the mind of a god, with bach being merely some sort of intermediary.
The recording sounds 1/2 tone lower - E flat minor instead of E minor - for some reason.
Yes, Theo Caplan, I researched it since, too. Thank you!
+Theo Caplan a' is 415 hz instead of modern 440 hz.
The baroque 'a' is a bit lower than the modern. It's the lower 'a' that gives this perfomance its depth.
@@bumbumDK Maybe that's why when I listened to Bach's "Vergnügte Ruh" and followed along with the original score, the score was in D but when I compared the key I was hearing with my piano, it came out a half tone lower (D flat/C sharp).
Nah, that’s not what I meant. In that case we simply misunderstood each other.
Qui vient de la musique
2:55 Taylor Swift is singing in the choir :D
She wishes XD.
lmao
E il coro dei bambini lo stanno maltrattando nel retropalco?
God bestaat, dit is het bewijs.
It's sublime music. What, are they supposed to look like they're on Lawrence Welk and grin through the whole thing? Not arguing on behalf of Xtianity, btw.
Black happens to be "concert dress' - the tradition handed down as a kind of uniform. I'm not fond of it myself but haven't been able to come up with a suitable alternative.
si eres español dale a like
Kommt, ihr Töchter, helft mir tragen..
An offense to Bach? What you wrote might be one but certainly not the claim that his music was inspired by God. He himself would have agreed with that.
I believe it wouldn't be an offense AT ALL to J.S.Bach - to say that God was responsible for this or even that this piece was created by God himself.
I think that J.S. Bach would agree - but to assume this one needs to be an old-fashioned Middle Ages kind of person.
I think it is much better to truly appreciate what us, humans, can create for one another, without attributing or projecting anything to supernatural powers.
And it's not just about Bach, cause he is in the lineage of other talented people who crated music before him, who invented and perfected the musical instruments, the teachers and asters before him. Also what he listen to now is not just Bach, but hundreds of vocalists, musicians, the directors and conductors, in short, it is truly the fruit of a shared humanity, across countries and eras...
Which God do you mean? I would prefer Odin or Wotan as Germans called him.
@@dystopikk Well said! But J.S. Bach believed in God, and who am I to teach Him what is better.
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A bit too fast, even when many make it even faster. This is 52 bpm., good tempo is 40 - 45. (3/8 measured)
+artois54 JS Bach told you that?
+artois54 just great for me, slower makes it too melodramatic, this is a walz celebrating life for me.... but everybody has his opinion
Agreed. Is a bit too fast.
God? is dat die persoon zonder wiens wil geen mus van het dak valt en geen haar van mijn hoofd valt? Dan wordt hij bedankt voor die ingegroeide teennagel
Beautifully written but lyrics lack a little bit of depth, i would refer this bach guy to lil baby or dababy or one of the babies out there making millions right now
ich mahe eine vicksen
No idea what the conductor is doing. Looks like a mixture between epilepsy and contemporary expressionist dance. Kudos to all performing artists for achieving perfection nonetheless.
...turning a lament into a happy bouncy dance tune might be going a bit too far. Normally, I like Herreweghe's approach to things, but he's gone a bit off the rails here.
Where are the "dramatic" elements? The fast heart rate during "Kommt Ihr Töchter, helft mir klagen" ? It's a 12/8 metro but that does not mean to make a "waltz" out of it. Are humans feeling like this while there's grief in the air? And why always put an accent ? ONE-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-ONE-2-3-4......? WHY? Ist gruesome! Horrible! Listen to Karl Richter (1971) and his performance ( "Münchener Bach-Chor").....
klingt scheiße