Leave it to MXA. After owning this for several years and finaling deciding to try it, I'm literally two hours looking at the hokey how to videos and I've learned almost nothing. Come over here and SHAZAM...Let's Go! Thank you MXA!
The cellphone integration wouldn't bug me if at least it were unobtrusive and out of the way unless you want it. But having it central with a lit up button on a little 'dashboard' is just not what I want in dirtbike. Do NOT want to play with my phone (pairing it etc) when I am out to ride.
Just more gimmicks to justify over pricing the crap out of bikes and keeping any of us normal people from ever having anything new or nice or even participating in this sport. They are going to price this sport right out of existence.
Reguardless of the connectivity unit, ktm are 100% leading the way, they have the best bikes out there in stock trim off the showroom floor. They’ve got the Japanese manufacturer’s scrambling to catch up and have done for a while! Sick bikes! If ktm went to a production spring fork and worked on their suspension game a little more, they would absolutely ruin the competition!! Their golden egg though, the money! IMO is their chrome-moly steel frames! Unless the Japanese manufacturers accept defeat and go with a those materials, and similar designs they won’t catch ktm.
They should make it fit in the air box or behind the numberplate. Sounds interesting, you could make a 450sxf act like a xcfw so now it’s just gears and maybe flywheel weights
The real hero will be the one that gets these bikes to sound like race bikes instead of lawnmowers. Not just a loud sound but a great sound. Even the aftermarket pipes are way off sound
why would the BT connector need to be flat, is just a wireless receiver. Have seen it relocated under the side panel and can press button which is vertical, through a hole in the sidepanel
I don't understand why the mounting position of that black box needs to be level to talk to the bike and phone? Why wouldn't this be something they mounted under the seat or behind the mask?
So what suspension settings did y’all end up on with this bike? I’m still struggling to find a good balance until I send them out to JBI for revalve? Thanks
They are saying these 4 strokes need a valve adjustment after only ten hours. WTH is that all about? Why? I would appreciate any info on this because I can ride 10 hours in 2-3 days and if that’s the case I would get a two stroke
You didn't! We waited until we could get the Suzuki and GasGas models before doing the shootout. The full article will be in our April issue of the magazine and the video is still coming soon
Working on it still! It's scheduled to be in the April issue of MXA and the video is coming soon still. We took longer because we wanted to get a full shootout with the Suzuki and GasGas bikes.
@@carlosclass787 they try and put 100 hours on each bike before releasing the shootout, unlike every other magazine, mxa does extensive testing instead of just hucking a rider on it for a couple sessions, the goal is to have each bike experience its first mechanical or component failure
@@pilsnerfamilymotorsports3275 Thank you! We put a lot of time into our tests. The shootout is coming soon! The Suzuki and GasGas bikes didn't come until late and that pushed us back. It'll be in the April issue of MXA and the video is coming soon
@@pilsnerfamilymotorsports3275 well we all know the yamaha is pretty much bullet proof! Dont need to wait 100 hrs do we? Ktm will have its sprocket issues coming loose etc. Honda will probably over heat unless theyve fixed that problem lol.
I have one on my 2020 Rockstar 450, retail it is $249 and it needs to be "initialized" at the dealer where they plug it into the computer and give it the VIN and enable it, it should be off back order now. I have not gotten the bike to the dealer yet to have it turned on but the install was super easy.
With throttle response up it feels more aggressive than map 2, but not a major difference. The app gives you a lot more adjustability to meter the power and tame it down than it does to make the more aggressive.
@@joshmosiman1955 Thanks for the response. I think ill just go with a vortex ecu with twisted development. Until you can take that thing off your handlebars lol
THATS A LIE ! I have a ‘21 model and I bought the connectivity unit from my dealer no back order for 249 really simple install and no it does not need to be programmed
STOP THE AIR FORK! No motor sport uses air suspension for a reason, its not consistent. KTM's are fantastic and ahead of the curve in almost every way but would rather spend my money on a bike that has great suspension out of the box. Barcia is testing the air shock because its cheaper to make and therefore they can sell you a bike that costs them less to make. it can be advertised as being "lighter and more adjustable" but consistency wins races and keeps you safe and air suspension is NOT consistent. Please KTM stop with the air fork its been around for 40 years and there is a reason no one uses it.
I agree KTM's cone valve forks are the best imo. The best option with their air forks is to send them to Coppersmith for a Ohlins shock on one side & air in the opposite fork.
@@jeff40 Definitely lots of ways to fix them, bought a new 250sx in 2018, loved everything about it except the forks. Got my suspension valved by the best in my area and the damping was much improved but still hated at the end of the moto when the track was rough and the forks were harder. If I ran lower pressure at the beginning of the day they would be too soft at the beginning when you need to sprint, then at the end of the moto when you're trying to settle into your pace and the track is rougher they are getting stiffer. Should have done the spring conversion but will go with a yamaha or Kawi next so I don't have to spend 2k$ on suspension on a new bike.
Haha, me to. I keep telling them guys is not huska VAR na, it husk VAR na. And if you're wanting to impress a real Swede, hooshk VAAR na. And kids not HI key mi COLA, it's pronounced HAY ki MEE cola. Yup, I'm THAT guy too, old as balls, still playing in the dirt. Braaaap.
Bluetooth connectivity.... Setting cuma Di Bluetooth connection melalui telefon... Semua settings engine ada sana.. Bole buat custom mapping melalui apps ktm
Smart phone programmable. No thankyou. Too scary seeing its hooked up to a smart phone. This world needs to unplug rather than sitting on a phone when riding.
@@freeradical431 yamahas been doing it for years. All the bikes will have it eventually. Stop living in the 90s, bikes are much better now than they were then
@@koreysvardal3302 But 3x the cost, less fun over all and mostly un-accesible now due to costs. Only thing us mere mortals can afford is an older 2 stroke.
@@koreysvardal3302 i own 4 strokes and 2 strokes. But these new modern 4 stroke machines are next level. May not have the fun factor and explosiveness as the 2 stroke. But the way they handle on track is much better. They stick to the track alot better.
@@freeradical431 it’s the connectivity unit that’s Bluetooth not the bike the unit plugs into a wire behind the front number plate the only thing wireless is the phone to Connectivity unit
I like you Josh. 👍🏻👍🏻 Good test. I like Michael too. You're both blessed. "SOME PEOPLE" 2021 Some people get it... Some people don't. Some people will... Some people won't. Some people run... Some people fight. Some love the darkness... Some seek the Light. Some glance at pages... Some read the Word. Some hear the voices... Some voices aren't heard. Some people are princes... Some people are poor... Some welcome strangers... Some slam the door. Some people love the created... Some people love the Creator. Some people will be stranded... Some people will walk through God's door. * feel free to share, with author credit* this is Copyright free🙏🏽🙏🏻💪🏿💪🏻🙌🏽🙌🙌🏽🌎🌿 -Deacon Michael James
@@gregoryvierra6114 like I said, Some people get it. The Mosiman brothers ARE DEVOUT CHRISTIANS, you on the other hand are like the rest of this fallen, shitty world, you believe only what you can see, taste, touch, and hear. 😲😔🥺 I feel sad for people like you. See, God will push the fence sitters off the fence into the pit with the devils. Read the Bible, if you watched the SX last night, you'd have seen THIS. This the test rider, Josh's brother Michael after WINNING his heat race. Get right with God while you still can. You were warned. m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10224084538239624&id=1184839135
@@gregoryvierra6114 😄😆😄😆 hate to tell you, but I don't put the same effort into to stupid youtube comment that I do when I'm BEING PAID for an article. YOU should go look up some Cycle News issues and find my name, Michael James... From NY And I read MY Bible EVERY DAY. Do you? 😄🙏🏾💪🏾😎💞🌿👍🏽
For us "over the top" riders we want performance and design. Mostly yes your right, though for some of us we love the beautiful trademark of redbull graphics on our bikes. Orange anodized wheels, with a cover, a better grip seat, plus the difference between a model specific header pipe with an advanced resonator (stock) & a $1000 Akrapovic set up (factory) & more. Also don't forget your ECU from twisted development, the KTM will get 4 maps on the fly instead of 2 then an optional 6 more, its all you need!
I've never been so offended at how nice a bike looks wtf. Well done!
KTM have continued to push development since 2017, just brilliant bikes.
Roger De Coster is the man.
And it will 2024 and 2023, with a first I would guess..
You guys do excellent tests Thank you !
That’s a awesome looking bike !
Leave it to MXA. After owning this for several years and finaling deciding to try it, I'm literally two hours looking at the hokey how to videos and I've learned almost nothing. Come over here and SHAZAM...Let's Go! Thank you MXA!
I can't wait to own one of the new KTM 450cc
Can’t wait to get back on the bike
Love the Orange frame! 👍
World first. The Bluetooth headbutt!
I have the 21 I haven’t got my bar pad yet once you make changes and set can you remove the pad and continue
The cellphone integration wouldn't bug me if at least it were unobtrusive and out of the way unless you want it.
But having it central with a lit up button on a little 'dashboard' is just not what I want in dirtbike. Do NOT want to play with my phone (pairing it etc) when I am out to ride.
That's me also? I don't even want my cell phone near me when I'm out riding!
Just more gimmicks to justify over pricing the crap out of bikes and keeping any of us normal people from ever having anything new or nice or even participating in this sport. They are going to price this sport right out of existence.
Amen. Thank you someone feels the same as i do
Reguardless of the connectivity unit, ktm are 100% leading the way, they have the best bikes out there in stock trim off the showroom floor. They’ve got the Japanese manufacturer’s scrambling to catch up and have done for a while! Sick bikes! If ktm went to a production spring fork and worked on their suspension game a little more, they would absolutely ruin the competition!! Their golden egg though, the money! IMO is their chrome-moly steel frames! Unless the Japanese manufacturers accept defeat and go with a those materials, and similar designs they won’t catch ktm.
They should make it fit in the air box or behind the numberplate. Sounds interesting, you could make a 450sxf act like a xcfw so now it’s just gears and maybe flywheel weights
The real hero will be the one that gets these bikes to sound like race bikes instead of lawnmowers. Not just a loud sound but a great sound. Even the aftermarket pipes are way off sound
It is crazy beautiful, i m not sure i would bring it offroad...
Need to bring back the sxs models and do it properly
why would the BT connector need to be flat, is just a wireless receiver. Have seen it relocated under the side panel and can press button which is vertical, through a hole in the sidepanel
I don't understand why the mounting position of that black box needs to be level to talk to the bike and phone? Why wouldn't this be something they mounted under the seat or behind the mask?
Easier to reach & adjust I reckon..
I was wondering about how much room is actually under the seat.
Meanwhile I'm tapping into your settings through my phone making your bike slow as hell! Sabotage!.... 🤣 Jk
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Simply not possible but if you wish yourself you can make your bike to something unusable. (not breaking it though)
Can we get a factory edition 250 2 stroke
So what suspension settings did y’all end up on with this bike? I’m still struggling to find a good balance until I send them out to JBI for revalve?
Thanks
Gorgeous!
Does the sprocket bolts and spokes still loosened them self ?
Yes they do!
@@joshmosiman1955 youd think ktm would fix those problems by now!
The only problem is if you run a different handlebar or clamp...your screwed if you want to run the updated settings.
They are saying these 4 strokes need a valve adjustment after only ten hours. WTH is that all about? Why? I would appreciate any info on this because I can ride 10 hours in 2-3 days and if that’s the case I would get a two stroke
Good review. Where in the desert near apple valley were you guys? I live near and want to explore the area. tks.
How do you change the bars ? What do you do the Bluetooth pad on the stock bars?
I love bikes
Can you turn the traction control off completely?
Y’all need to make a test video on a 2021 Kim 85
Ktm
U can move anywhere mine is behind number plate works fine
looks good
Did I miss the 2020 450 shoot out video??? 2021.5 testing and you haven't even put out the 450 shootout??
You didn't! We waited until we could get the Suzuki and GasGas models before doing the shootout. The full article will be in our April issue of the magazine and the video is still coming soon
@@joshmosiman1955 why wait? They didn't make the show in time, maybe next year they will be better prepared...
Way too many electronics on these new bikes! Give me a 300cc. 2-stroke with a well jetted carb.
不管评测如何，我的最爱还是KTM
Is the bike a 4 speed or 5 speed?
It would be cool if yamaha did this factory bike type thing.🤟
They do. Just some advertise it a lot like KTM. GYT Kits.
They did for the first time just this last year
ktm uber alles!!!!!!!!
Why the SX models has these small balloon on their pipe?
Can the bluetooth be hooked up to any KTM?
@MXA, when will we see your 2021 450 Shootout? Every other MX Media Co has publish theirs.
Working on it still! It's scheduled to be in the April issue of MXA and the video is coming soon still. We took longer because we wanted to get a full shootout with the Suzuki and GasGas bikes.
When can we expect the 2021 450 shootout?
I know right? They've had all the bikes for a while now.
@@carlosclass787 they try and put 100 hours on each bike before releasing the shootout, unlike every other magazine, mxa does extensive testing instead of just hucking a rider on it for a couple sessions, the goal is to have each bike experience its first mechanical or component failure
@@pilsnerfamilymotorsports3275 Thank you! We put a lot of time into our tests. The shootout is coming soon! The Suzuki and GasGas bikes didn't come until late and that pushed us back. It'll be in the April issue of MXA and the video is coming soon
@@pilsnerfamilymotorsports3275 well we all know the yamaha is pretty much bullet proof! Dont need to wait 100 hrs do we? Ktm will have its sprocket issues coming loose etc. Honda will probably over heat unless theyve fixed that problem lol.
Ok, can an android phone connect to the unit ? Or, is it only for iPhone ?
ANDROID AND I PHONE
I got a connectivity unit on my 2021 and it works! No need for the factory edition, 2021 are supported
You can buy the my KTM connectivity unit by itself it’s just on back order until later this month.
I have one on my 2020 Rockstar 450, retail it is $249 and it needs to be "initialized" at the dealer where they plug it into the computer and give it the VIN and enable it, it should be off back order now. I have not gotten the bike to the dealer yet to have it turned on but the install was super easy.
Do we need all the electronics?
You mean a ECU? Or the FCU? For certain things it might be nice to have it. Definitely not required though.
Good KTM
The forks are stiffer because they probably have to consider the weight of the Bluetooth device
Good thinking! But they tell us the internals are exactly the same. The bluetooth thing is pretty small and light too
WHEEEELLLLIIE FAM
Nice
Good👍
What's the differences between the ktm 450 sx and yz450f
One does about 80 the other does 90mph plus lol 😂
What's up with the crooked ass fuel tank? I hope it's not what it is supposed to be.
nice
WHEN THE THROTTLE RESPONSE IS ALL THE WAY UP DOES IT MAKE IT FASTER THAN THE STANDARD MAP 2? DOES IT GIVE IT A YAMAHA HONDA PUNCH OUT THE CORNERS
Your caps lock is stuck.
With throttle response up it feels more aggressive than map 2, but not a major difference. The app gives you a lot more adjustability to meter the power and tame it down than it does to make the more aggressive.
@@joshmosiman1955 Thanks for the response. I think ill just go with a vortex ecu with twisted development. Until you can take that thing off your handlebars lol
could I just get that bike sir 🤯
🤘🔥🔥🔥❤️😍
wouldnt that be wild if they came out with a 3 speed like the factory boys
No joke
The factory bikes have 3-speed gearbox??
@@NirHason yep.
@@workhardplayhard3206 only for SX
So you just smack your face on the ecm?
THATS A LIE ! I have a ‘21 model and I bought the connectivity unit from my dealer no back order for 249 really simple install and no it does not need to be programmed
Pretty much have the same bike. By same I mean of course I have the same grips.
Yeah me too, I have the same fuel cap
Maybe you can explain to us, what parts are in the KTM SXF450 engine that uses titanium material. Thank you. #fromiindonesiansubscriber.
I’m pretty sure they come with Penkle transmission’s as standard! I don’t know if their titanium but that’s race team level stuff.
what if u want to change to a braced bar
just sit the pad on ur seat or sum where level to tune it u dont have to carry it around with u only to tune it
these guys love to flip flop on what they say. one day its suspension is best when its brand new next day it needs 10hrs to break in
STOP THE AIR FORK! No motor sport uses air suspension for a reason, its not consistent. KTM's are fantastic and ahead of the curve in almost every way but would rather spend my money on a bike that has great suspension out of the box. Barcia is testing the air shock because its cheaper to make and therefore they can sell you a bike that costs them less to make. it can be advertised as being "lighter and more adjustable" but consistency wins races and keeps you safe and air suspension is NOT consistent. Please KTM stop with the air fork its been around for 40 years and there is a reason no one uses it.
I agree KTM's cone valve forks are the best imo. The best option with their air forks is to send them to Coppersmith for a Ohlins shock on one side & air in the opposite fork.
@@jeff40 Definitely lots of ways to fix them, bought a new 250sx in 2018, loved everything about it except the forks. Got my suspension valved by the best in my area and the damping was much improved but still hated at the end of the moto when the track was rough and the forks were harder. If I ran lower pressure at the beginning of the day they would be too soft at the beginning when you need to sprint, then at the end of the moto when you're trying to settle into your pace and the track is rougher they are getting stiffer. Should have done the spring conversion but will go with a yamaha or Kawi next so I don't have to spend 2k$ on suspension on a new bike.
That seat makes it look older than newer, too fat. It must be more confortable though.
I gotta admit, that thing is sexy. Great looking bike.
Indonesia- 😎
Who asked?
Good stuff. A lot of information. But too much silly music/sound.
krazy!!
It's pronounced " Ah Crop A Vick " not Akron Po Vick? Yeah I'm that guy.
Nope both wrong
Haha, me to. I keep telling them guys is not huska VAR na, it husk VAR na. And if you're wanting to impress a real Swede, hooshk VAAR na.
And kids not HI key mi COLA, it's pronounced HAY ki MEE cola.
Yup, I'm THAT guy too, old as balls, still playing in the dirt. Braaaap.
Ah Crop o vich
@@jeff40 still wrong
@@Strasky_96 Ok I know how to pronounce the name ah Crop o vitch ? Right?
Apa yang baru?
Bluetooth connectivity.... Setting cuma Di Bluetooth connection melalui telefon... Semua settings engine ada sana.. Bole buat custom mapping melalui apps ktm
These people flexing most of us too broke to get even the 250f
Smart phone programmable. No thankyou. Too scary seeing its hooked up to a smart phone. This world needs to unplug rather than sitting on a phone when riding.
i agree
What do you expect to loose? The smartphone itself? Guess a preference would be something on the bike itself?
a pro that wouldnt take advantage of traction... wow buddy youre definitely a ken or james or even eli tomac
🤲🤲🤲
Bluetooth? what POS! Long live the CR500!
@Corin Ohara still do. 96. Love ktm but bluetooth on a bike- they have gone to far
@@freeradical431 yamahas been doing it for years. All the bikes will have it eventually. Stop living in the 90s, bikes are much better now than they were then
@@koreysvardal3302 But 3x the cost, less fun over all and mostly un-accesible now due to costs. Only thing us mere mortals can afford is an older 2 stroke.
@@koreysvardal3302 i own 4 strokes and 2 strokes. But these new modern 4 stroke machines are next level. May not have the fun factor and explosiveness as the 2 stroke. But the way they handle on track is much better. They stick to the track alot better.
@@freeradical431 it’s the connectivity unit that’s Bluetooth not the bike the unit plugs into a wire behind the front number plate the only thing wireless is the phone to Connectivity unit
I like you Josh. 👍🏻👍🏻 Good test. I like Michael too. You're both blessed.
"SOME PEOPLE" 2021
Some people get it...
Some people don't.
Some people will...
Some people won't.
Some people run...
Some people fight.
Some love the darkness...
Some seek the Light.
Some glance at pages...
Some read the Word.
Some hear the voices...
Some voices aren't heard.
Some people are princes...
Some people are poor...
Some welcome strangers...
Some slam the door.
Some people love the created...
Some people love the Creator.
Some people will be stranded...
Some people will walk through God's door.
* feel free to share, with author credit* this is Copyright free🙏🏽🙏🏻💪🏿💪🏻🙌🏽🙌🙌🏽🌎🌿
-Deacon Michael James
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@@gregoryvierra6114 like I said, Some people get it.
The Mosiman brothers ARE DEVOUT CHRISTIANS, you on the other hand are like the rest of this fallen, shitty world, you believe only what you can see, taste, touch, and hear. 😲😔🥺
I feel sad for people like you.
See, God will push the fence sitters off the fence into the pit with the devils. Read the Bible, if you watched the SX last night, you'd have seen THIS.
This the test rider, Josh's brother Michael after WINNING his heat race. Get right with God while you still can. You were warned.
m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10224084538239624&id=1184839135
I feel badly for you because you can’t even write a coherent sentence. Good day and go read your Bible.
@@gregoryvierra6114 😄😆😄😆 hate to tell you, but I don't put the same effort into to stupid youtube comment that I do when I'm BEING PAID for an article.
YOU should go look up some Cycle News issues and find my name, Michael James... From NY
And I read MY Bible EVERY DAY. Do you?
😄🙏🏾💪🏾😎💞🌿👍🏽
I just won a ktm 450 lol
Yamaha app > KTM
Keiinginan gua yg sebenarnya, tapi ekonomi blike: sadar anj
all i want in a bike is an engine and a seat.blue tooth ffs get a grip
So the factory edition is an overpriced machine that you could get stock with a different ignition and get the same result? Got it.
For us "over the top" riders we want performance and design. Mostly yes your right, though for some of us we love the beautiful trademark of redbull graphics on our bikes. Orange anodized wheels, with a cover, a better grip seat, plus the difference between a model specific header pipe with an advanced resonator (stock) & a $1000 Akrapovic set up (factory) & more. Also don't forget your ECU from twisted development, the KTM will get 4 maps on the fly instead of 2 then an optional 6 more, its all you need!
🖒
FUCKING 5G !
It doesn't use any of these frequency bands? So what are you talking about?
This bike would be awesome.... if you can DELETE the bluetooth tuner! Shut up and RIDE.... Lol
not pro! lot of dollars for same you get if buy suzook.
Rate KTM last cause KTM is a ugly bike.