2 DOF DIY SEATMOVER ELECTRONICS - Wiring, IBT, Arduino, Fan and motors
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- 2 DOF motion simulator seatmover now has bigger motors mounted for more power! 24VDC Jazzy wheelchair motors mounted to this 2 degree of freedom motion simulator.. This video details the electrical wiring between the Arduino, the IBT-2 motor controllers, Hall effect potentiometers and the 24Volt converters.
00:00 start
04:00 Wiring diagram and basic wiring
06:00 wiring and soldering
10:00 setting up components in container
11:00 final thoughts
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Amazon link for 24VDC 25amp power supply. 24V 25A 600W LED Driver Switching Power Supply （SMPS） Monitoring Power Supply Industrial Power Transformer 110/220VAC-DC24V
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Jazzy Wheelchair motors on Ebay.. Since Ebay links change all the time, just search for Jazzy Wheelchair motors. There are a few different kinds. Just look for the ones in the video for reference. They cost me $65 for both plus $20 shipping.
50:1 12volt motors just search Ebay for GEAR MOTOR 12 VOLT GREAT FOR SAWMILL/CRAB POT PULL/FEED/SIMULATOR 75-80RPM 50:1 (sold by PGSAW in Canada)
Hall Effect Potentiometers DIGI-Key and others PN 987-1392-ND
www.digikey.co.uk/en/products...
Arduino UNO R3 - amazon. I have also used the cheaper ELEGOO clone.
www.amazon.com/Arduino-A00006...
IBT-2 motor controllers up to 43amps (which is a lot!)
www.amazon.com/dp/B00WSN98DC?...
other motor controllers you could consider using are JRK12V12 or Sabertooth but I use IBT-2's
XSIMULATOR forum - Info specifically for arduino/IBT-2 for 1 to 3 Motors. You can use up to three motors per arduino. But you each motor needs it's own IBT-2 controller.
www.xsimulator.net/community/...
DMAX motion sim build posts on XSimulator
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time stamp 2:30 Dave one of my cars might put you in the neighbors yard at full throttle !!! He,he,he,he, Amazing how you know how to do this.
Thanks humblegeorge! Yeah, that would do it! Crazy thing is I did not even know there was such a thing as motion simulators before the LOCKDOWN.. Now, I guess I'm hooked.. hahah Dave
Wish you were around when I started building my MoSiRig ... just take your time ... take it slow it's not that hard to do ... your videos will help newcomers a lot to succeed!
Congrats to a new great video my friend.
Thanks my friend! Kind of the reason I said that was because I indeed felt 'rushed' on my first rig for whatever reason.. I felt like there was a lot on the line.. Looking back on it now, I could have used that advice.. Dont stress.. dont try to build it in a DAY - just take your time.. Hope all is well with you! Dave
Wow, what a great breakdown so far. Super helpful for a novice. It’s amazing how much you know! Your advice on slowing down to take the time to do the job right is applicable for all hobbies 👍
Thanks for takin a look B! I appreciate your comment! DMAX
Great video D! What a great explanation! Thanks Brother!
Thanks Hippy! I appreciate you taking a look! Just trying to help out if I can and shine the light on how to DIY a motion sim! DMAX
Hi Mr D. best wiring post yet great stuff thank you
Thanks Yaksnip.. Hope it helps out Yall. I know there are several guys making these now and quite a few that are already driving.. DMAX
A absolute gem of a video, thank you for sharing.
Thanks David.. I'm going to make a new video about this on the new series I am in the middle of.. DIY compact motion simulator 3 DOF.. Thanks for watching Dave
Great video !!!! Dave you have a top notch youtube channel keep'em comm'in :>)
Thanks humblegeorge.. I appreciate the comments and will keep pluggin away as time allows.. Just trying to help out and shine the light on the subject and showing people that they can do it.. they see me do it.. hope it helps.. Kind words always help me out! Dave
This one was super helpful for me, thanks so much!!
Thanks for watching Nick.. Let me know how it goes.. I do check the comments 'they ' let me see.. best - Dave
Just a tip to help remember, at a glance, which side of the fan blows and which side sucks air, the concave side of the blades always blows air.
That's a great tip.. I almost powered it up to test which way it pushes air.. Thanks Stephen! Dave
good luck on your channel bro, so wholesome
Thanks K4hhny! I appreciate you takin a look and sending kind words.. Dave
@@DMAX_DIY no problem 👍
Hey Dave, im looking forward to making my first rig. I appreciate all of your wisdom
Thanks for the Comment my friend!.. Just finishing up the new system.. Got it working yesterday.. Posting on Saturday hopefully.. Check back.. It looks pretty good! Dave
@@DMAX_DIY
Very exciting, I'll be sure to check it out!
just bought my first arduino, missed out on mechatronics in college and had to to take automated controls aka all math and no fun...
Here we are 7 years later.. Never to late try new hobbies or passions.
I'll be sure to share my progress in the near future...
@@dirtydumplin1949 Yeah never too late.. I found this stuf about three years ago.. It's very cool to be able to make different things.. Never thought It would end up building a motion simulator for PC games.. Crazy! Dave
Hi Dave. I have been glued to your videos! I am starting from absolute scratch. As both my PC and my laptop are not powerful enough to run a sim rig, could you recommend a affordable computer set-up please. Many thanks Graham.
Good Question Graham. Perhaps others will weigh in as well on this. Anything equal to an I7 or better, 16GB ram and a decent video card will run your GAME, The motion sim and other things. I can run the 2DOF motion sim and Live for speed on a super slow win7 laptop with 8GB ram.. It runs.. but I would get something better than that.. The motion sim is really just an Arduino and it's software is not very CPU intensive. Hope that helps you out.. Dave
Great Video Dave, Thanks for all your vids. Great stuff
Where was it you are racing on Saturdays? I might join ya
Good question! We are on the SirSpats Gaming Discord channel.. Gentlemans league racing section. We are currently racing MAZDA cup cars through the MAZADA cup series of tracks.. I don't know if this is the "link" or not.. but you would need to join the discord channel and then sign up for the next Saturdays race.. Ez though.. Maybe see ya there! Dave discord.com/channels/762401817249710102/952344700570984468
@@DMAX_DIY Hey Thanks Dave, I'll have a look and see if I can get in.
@@RacerXtc here is a temporary invite.. Just click here
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@@DMAX_DIY All signed up, Thank you Sir. See You Saturday
Hello, I love your videos and I followed your steps and was able to put together a 2 dof. I have a big problem and I hope you can help me. My 2 DOF works fine until the moment I adjust the potentiometers on the motor and that's where the SMC3 stops, everything remains off. but when I remove the potentiometers from the motor and they are loose there it works again. I hope for your help and thank you very much
Oh wow.. Sorry to hear that.. I've not run across that issue yet. Ok.. so go back to basics.. disconnect power from both motors.. Get SMC3 running and make sure the Blue Line (pot line) is in the mddle.. if you move the pot, the Blue Line should move with it. Then move your clip limits and max limits out a bit.. The MAX limits (red line) will shut off the motor if the blue line intersects with it.. Try and get just ONE motor working at a time.. Let me know.. Dave
Another great video. Would be interested in seeing the code for the uno and how to set up with smc Utilities I’ve checked out your previous videos, but I’m struggling to get my motors to move I’m using v similar motors to this build.
Sorted mine now was dead ibt2 boards so thank you for your videos all electrics done ✅ now onto the frame work and mounting. Keep up the great content
@@jimchilvers7281 Thanks for making the comments my friend! You never know who might need to read them and the do help others out.. Glad it was just an IBT.. remember to have a fan on them once you get them under load.. they need active cooling.. Dave
@@DMAX_DIY I have 2 40mm intake and 2 40mm exhaust fans at the moment only 24v ones I had laying about, I do have room for a bigger one though so if these ain’t cut out for it I’ll upgrade to bigger ones. I’m still not 100% sure on settings to use on smc3 Utils but I guess it’s just trial and error depending on motors. Really appreciate your videos got me motivated to carry on with my build.
@@jimchilvers7281 Hey I would think that those should be just fine.. As long as there is AIR blowing on them .. It is a little trial and error on the SMC3.. but I'll go over the initial settings in my next vid. that should make them move. You're close! and then all of a sudden you are moving in the game.. It's pretty fantastic.. It happened for me about two years ago and I really like building these things. Check out the x-simulator.net forum.. good folks there.. TONS of info too.. That's what I started with.. Dave
love the way you explain everything, my only thing is once i have done all of this , and download the software to the Arduino, I have 24volts going into to the IBT-2 but i have no output coming out to the motor. when I do just a test to see if the pot is given a reading it is in the sim util. so not sure why i'm not getting any output.
Ok.. so a couple checks first.. Find the com port that the arduino is on.. Open the SMC3 configuration text file and edit the comm port so that it is the same as whatever com port your arduino is on.. save the file.. Then Open SMC3.. it should say (same com port) on bottom right.. Your Potentiometer (wired to A0) will give a reading to the arduino on Motor 1.. Let me know if you can twist the shaft of the POT connected to A0 and if the green readout moves when you do.. Dave
@@DMAX_DIY , yes when I do this the green readout moves.
@@user-ij4oh4hg8x Ok.. I ususally test the motors first to make sure they work .. If they are 24 v, you should be able to momentarily make them spin (without ardunio or IBT) just by touching the two wires coming out of the motor to the power source two wires. .. I do that all the time just to be sure the motors work.. I hope that makes sense.. (two motor wires , two power wires).. if you get it to spin one direction, flip the wires and it should spin the opposite direction.. Just to be sure the motors actually work.. sometimes they are duds..
yes did the test the motor works in both directions, also notice on my simtool that when i put motor 1 on the yellow line moves towards to blue line and not the green so i must have something not connected right can you help?@@DMAX_DIY
Hi I've bought the uno R3, ibts and petentiometers and ready to wire them up :D on the COG video on your 3DOF rig for balancing the seat and frame with everything else.do I find the COG for the seat using the pole method, weld the Ujoint on and then balance it on the frame with everything else OR do I find COG with everything first then weld the Ujoint?
Your doing great Ryan. Ok on the 3DOF full frame rig, I had to use the pedals and wheel as well as seat to find the COG.. It's a bit precarious cause they are not connected together. but you can get pretty close. Also you need to be sitting in the seat . Helpful to have someone assist you but I did it myself. Anyway, once you find the Center of Gravity, Just line the U Joint up on the mid frame and tack weld in place.. I bolted the top of the U joint to the upper frame. You could take a look at my x-simulator build photos if you want here : www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/full-frame-2-dof-traction-loss-new-build.14740/
@@DMAX_DIY Brilliant thankyou for your help Dmax, really appreciate it, your build inspired me to finally start my own
Your videos are great. One question, can I use Multiturn Potentiometer 10k Ohm Precision 10 Turns Emn?
Thanks for taking a look.. I dont think that will work very well because you need the pot or sensor to be reading position from 0 to 180 degrees. If it is a multi turn 10k, the pot would have to turn more than that (if I am understanding you correctly). The hall effect sensors I use have a 'sweet spot' of 180 degrees, they are multi turn because there is no physical boundry for them to reach. I have found some more inexpensive Hall effect sensors and listed the part numbers the this video below. ua-cam.com/video/BrHvLULfeEQ/v-deo.html Dave
@@DMAX_DIY Thanks for your answer. I bother you with the last thing. Can you give me a purchase link for an engine that works for me and that is not very expensive on Amazon. Since I am from Uruguay and I have to bring it to my country because there is nothing here. Thanks for everything
I'm assuming I could use an arduino mega to do this too? I've got a few of them laying around
Mark.. NO.. for whatever reason the UNO is the only one that works with the code.. Others have tried different boards but seems like the UNO is the one.. Hope that helps.. Dave
Hey Max, just wanted to ask a few questions if you could answer So if I understand this correctly. I'm on my way of getting everything together, power supplies, got 6x IBT-2's, got the arduino's, and need the motors and the pots.
The motors you're using, are they 24 volts? I have 3x 12v power supplies for up to 30 amps of current, (as I might want to go for full platform rig (not seat mover that is)) and want to buy the 12V Crab pot motors on ebay. Can I hook up two motors to the same power supply or do I need one for each? And if I can hook up 2 motors to the same, that would mean 12V and 30A /2 on each, = 15 amps per motor?
Just collecting my thoughts :) can't wait to start the electrician education (if you can put it that way) this fall, been waiting to do that for over 2 decades :)
Thanks again for the inspiration to start this :D and for the Simtools the other day :)
He Proximo! good to hear from you! So on the 3DOF rig I am using the 12 volt crab pot 50:1 motors .. all three of them run off the 12 volt truck battery. On the 2DOF seatmover, I have two AC to 24vDC converters, one per motor. Motors are 24volt wheelchair motors at measured 18-1 ratio. My opinion would be to get the 12 volt crab pot motors *as I can vouch they are powerful*. I would attempt to run them off the 30 amp supply but since you already have 3 x 12v 30 amp supplies, It would be easier on the power supplies to power each motor. FYI the most my 3DOF has pulled hard brake to full accel is 25 amps.. but that was a while ago and I have 'turned it up since then'. Keep pluggin away.. I just bought 3 more of those crab pot motors cause the had them in stock.. I just got them the other day.. * building a 6 dof* or at least going to try it.. Dave
@@DMAX_DIY Thanks mate! I'm on my way buying the motors after getting shipment quotes from the crab pot motor guys, makes quite a difference on the budget :D And I can't wait for the videos on the 6dof from you when you start making that :D
@@Proximo011 Yeah The price went up about $20 bucks per motor.. cause of whatever.. but I've been waiting to get the extra 3 for about 8 months now.. and they are sittin on the my workbench just waiting for me to attempt the 6 DOF.. Thanks again for watchin my videos..
can there be a version that uses rotary encoders instead of potentiometers'
I would think that someone could do that. I will put it on my list of 'stuff' to cover this year.. But the list is already getting pretty long.. I'm doing another wiring video this weekend for the COMPACT sim series (the latest series)..ua-cam.com/play/PLO8l70qEp71MER1P0D-BBZza_gqzzmgp_.html
I'll think about mentioning it in the video if I can remember to do so and can shed some light on the subject. Great question.. Thanks for watching.. Dave
Hello, I have a question: How to set in sim tools so that the motors are in the same position so that the platform is level.
Hey thanks for taking a look.. It's pretty easy.. I probably have not explained it very good. But I have a new vid coming out May 14/15 that shows how to set stuff up.. I realized that I was rushing though the videos and not explaining things the way I should so In my newest series, I am slowing way down and taking things step by step.. wiring up things wrong to show what happens when people do that and how to correct it.. basically things I WISH I WOULD HAVE SEEN someone make a video about.. SO tune in if you have time
Great job I hope that it's that simple for me.and I got to motors just like your on ebay but I think there 12 volt how can I know for sure
Hey Henry.. Sometimes the seller listed some of the specs on ebay.. Check the description of what they came off.. If it was a Jazzy and the look the same. Send me the link to your ebay purchase page.. Maybe I can look.. max.motion.simulator@gmail.com
Thanks I see they have 12 -24 volt on the description. Could it be they don't know .
@@henryjames3580 Not sure about this but I did read a couple EBAY ads that say 12-24.. They indicated that they would run 120RPM at 24 volts and 60 RPM at 12 volts, which is what mine do. So all I can say is try them and see what happens. I would probably post a photo of them on x-simulator with the question.. how do I tell if they are 12V or 24 Volt? Those guys there probably would know for sure.
Hey bud the tenomiter is out of stock that you linked to what can I use and how do I know how to pick one that will work thanks
hi again dave what if i use only one 24v 25 amps psu will it work?
I just found your question (Feb 7th..) Thanks YOU TUBE for letting me know .. sheesh.. Ok.. The biggest thing that may let you down is PEAK amps.. if you accelerate and then brake real hard you push the motors to deliver their max . Which would trip the power supply.. I would try it.. but if you end up tripping them, maybe just use one per motor.. Great question! Wish I would have seen it sooner my friend! Dave
Nice video!
I have the materials, can u help me with some questions?
Please, I need u help):