true for raid but not for M+, can't talk about PvP. I remember times where warlocks werer dogshit in M+ but it seems like it slowly changes since shadowlands destro lock reign and they are more welcome in M+. I personally like to run havoc dh + shadow priest + destro/fire mage + resto shammy + prot pally, with havoc and retri aura you get 10% dps increase for warlock, combine that with PI and warlocks melt the packs and bosses. Not to mention that warlocks are arguably the most tanky DPS spec? I think nothing is more tanky, amount of shields and self healing is just incredible
Well the question... Should you play a warlock. Ive been playing the same warlock since week 2 of the game. Still play it as a main (Velvettwitch) Im not hardcore or even great but, i have fun, some xpacs are great some are not but i enjoy the spec and will continue. I like Kalamazi because he helps me get the most from her.
Lock is my main class. Always has been since WoW launched and Affliction has always been my main spec. Sad to see it once more nerfed down but I will never not play it.
But thing is we have nothing to worry and can only get buffed. Even worst warlock spec affliction is still great if you know how to play compared to many other classes and specs. Oh and for stats all 3 specs have almost exactly same stat priority meaning swapping to another one costs us nothing compared to some other classes.
I am gonna be the oddball warlock and play affliction. People forget how valuable dots are during mechanics , when you can't cast in raids. I don't care if I am not top on the meters, what matters is dishing out the damage when it matters to me.
@@tvilkerino Your not topping the charts against say a hunter or rogue that allways gets the PI, well at least thats how it was for me in last tier might be different this next tier. I allways thought to myself why not PI me as a demo lock we benefit from it the most. But never voiced it because people get pissy about PI, honestly i think they should just remove it to much drama happens from it sometimes. Or just make PI for priest only.
Thanks man your videos are so fucking good you make everything so understandable and approachable as a new warlock playing! Gonna be maining demo in the new patch!!
I picked Affliction Warlock as my first ever WoW character because I love DoT classes and casters in every game. I had a ton of fun leveling through the game but now that I've reached level 70 it feels really underwhelming. I feel like for a DOT class my main method of damage shouldn't just be spamming Malefic Rapture or Seed over and over again. After looking at a tier list and seeing they are basically considered bottom tier in modern endgame content I am considering trying out a different spec or honestly just rerolling a different class.
I totally agree on Malefic Rapture, it‘s not fun to play and doesn’t fit Aff. Seed instead is just cool to use besides it‘s extremely long cast time. With Seed you apply Corruption and you get the initial damage for application. It‘s not ideal but I honestly can‘t think of a better solution 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks for the video. As much as it pains me to say, but I am glad I decided to not return to main Warlock. I dislike the constant playing Demo for 80% of the raid, while Aff is by far my favorite spec. It just feels like ever since the beginning of BfA, whenever Aff shines, it get's shot down to bottom of the barrel in the next balance patch and I just can't handle that heartbreak anymore. So I switched form the tanky dps to just straight tank. I'm a shiny captain America with a Lock alt now ;(
This was the most tactful, kind, and diplomatic explanation of Affliction's place as the worst DPS spec in the game alongside Survival. You're a saint Kalamazi. 🖤 Maybe someday the devs will remove Malefic Rapture and Aff will be fun/relevant again.
This is the first time I don’t play warlock in a tier :( Aff feels horrible. Destro is quite cool but has basically been the same since WoD. And mentioning WoD … I liked Demo there. But I cannot get used to the actual Demo 😢
Finally someone else that feels the same about Aff. Apparently people here accept literally everything Blizz does and so they really think Dark Glare (besides dot duration extension) and MR fits Aff 🤷🏻♂️ ridiculous 🤦🏻♂️
I don't even need to watch this video (I'm going to though) to know that the answer is Yes. It has always been, and will always be, Yes. Warlock for life!
Thanks for your videos. My demo lock has been booted from raids based on low DPS. I have changed my rotation and talents based on your recommendations. I practice on dummys and have noticed that, with the exception of imps, my other demons do not show damage in combat log. I tried each separately to test and no damage is shown in log. Should these be shown? Is this a glitch? Shouldn't DPS include demon damage? Thanks in advance for your time.
Hasn't been viable for more than 3 weeks at a time since Legion. I mained Aff for almost a decade, but haven't touched it since they ruined it with Malefic Rapture. Affliction seems to be a dead spec, like Survival and Assassination, basically forgotten by the devs. Try Shadow Priest or Balance Druid! 🖤
I think having Affliction not reliant on CDs makes it better than the other 2 specs. I seriously detest CDs in this game and any other game, I prefer sustained damage over burst any day of the week whether it's for keys, raiding or PvP, it doesn't matter. Sustained is much more fun over burst, especially the case in PvP where burst once it's done you're absolutely useless until it's back up again. That being said, I'd love for them to just get rid of DarkGlare all together and Soul Rot, too, and instead make more things towards DoTs and buffing DoTs. I think, also, that Wrath of Consumption should be applied based off of damage, not having to have kills. "Every time Agony or Corruption damages a target, your Affliction Damage over Time spells deal 3% more damage, stacking 5 times. This effect last 20 seconds." Something like that would be fine. Darkglare should be replaced with DoTs doing splash damage onto all targets. there's your AoE. "Your Affliction Damage over Time spells deal 10% of their normal damage onto all nearby targets you are in combat with." The next 2 talents buff it an additional 10% with the last talent buffing it once more by 10% so you get to have up to 30% splash damage. That or, much like Creeping Death, the first talent replacing DG makes them tick even faster, next one gives 10/20% more damage and then the last talent in that column makes them splash 20-30% of their normal damage onto all nearby enemies you are in combat with that doesn't have CC on them. I think Soul Rot should be replaced as well. I would prefer something like "For every Affliction Damage over Time effect on the target you gain 5% Haste, stacking up to 3 times." The next talent gives you an additional 1/2 more stacks for up to 25% Haste and then the last talent increases your Mastery by the same amount as your Haste so you get to have both Mastery and Haste increased by up to 25%. It can be 15% if 25% is too much. I think Sow talents should be replaced, instead, to make room for a passive that makes Agony and Corruption apply themselves to targets that have not been damaged by your Agony or Corruption yet, making them auto spread every time they deal damage, but only for the first time to get them up there on the targets so you have passive spread the first time. It should be for Agony alone the first time where Seed is, then you can talent into Agony applying Corruption and that makes it auto apply Corruption then, much like how Spriest has Misery for VT to apply SW:P. Last talent in that spot for SoC should be replaced as well and give your Agony a 15% increased chance to generate shards if it's on 3 or more targets, maybe 4 or more Idk. I think they should replace Pandemic nonsense with Death's Sentence or Row or whatever it was called in Legion. This was the ramping execute DoTs mechanic, but have it start at 100% enemy health instead of 35%. "Starting at 100% health, for every 2% health your targets lose, your Affliction Damage over Time spells deal 1% increased damage" (or deal damage 0.75% faster). I'd prefer faster damage over more damage, but it could be either one of those, but basically much the same as CD and other effects where it gains another 37.5% faster ticking speed without losing duration as an enemy dies or it deals 50% increased damage by the time the target goes to 0% HP. An execute DoT is still an execute DoT, though.
I can imagine shadow priests looking at destro locks be angry having to channel a 2.1 sec cast when sp have to channel a 3 sec cast that can't be hasted while also being less mobile
Great video as always! TLDR - Affliction needs general buffing, Destro is good but needs more mobility, Demo is good but just needs buffs to AOE or revert the AOE nerfs they recently put in.
the answer is you should main a pally. If youre already a pally main you should alt a pally. for raids in 10.1 we are taking a warrior for rally, a lock for rocks, a druid for roar, a mage for int, the rest will be pallies. mythic raid will be down in 2 days with this comp :P
Looking for a caster to play for 10.1 but seems every spec is either heavily penalized by movement (fire mage pyro hardcasts, arcane in general, shadow, warlock in general) or tends to have poor ST which is most of Aberrus (ele, moonkin). Kinda weird how Blizz have designed so many casters like this.
It’s… the entire point of the role what do you mean. It’s the entire WAY the role is balanced. Melee is balanced around uptime being harder to keep than ranged.
@@Flysh24 Then why does every fire mage content creator complain about ring of power and pyroclasm+sun king's blessing forcing frequent long casts that you often have to cancel due to swirlies etc?
@@borkguy Not really. Casters were way more mobile in earlier expacs like MoP, and it's not like melee went extinct. At that time mandatory class buffs weren't really a thing either, and raid design was less melee friendly in general.
As far as the 3 lock specs go, it only is really destro that is really harshly punished by movement. Aff may be looking quite weak at the moment but it handles movement in raid at least really well. Demo also deals with it fine but can suck if you get a mechanic during Tyrant ramp sequence (even then you can manage). Would recommend giving them a try at least.
Is it going to be possible for Destro to have a M+ build that includes both RoF perks and CDF? Doesnt seem like it. Im a dedicated destro player and really dont want to have to try Demo in M+.
@@borkguy My prob is demo seems very very complicated comparitively. Ive watched his video and cant apply it to my playstyle. Are you aware of a video that is very basic and baby steps for a noober like me?
@@randomhuman19 Best thing to do is play it for a week. i was the same in SL i felt that demo was so clunky couldnt get into it. But i told myself DF will be Demo for me no matter where its sits in the meta. I stuck with it and can say its super satisfying to play. Its very versatile imo, just get used to your basic imp cycle, stack to 9 imps implode cast dogs as much as possible infact try cast ur CDs as much as possible, tyrant with as many imps out as possible get all ur demons out before tyrant its really not that complicated everything flows really nice. Give it a week your muscle memory will set in. Get yourself some tracking weak auras thats the only problem with Demo is the base UI is really not fit for the spec, sure u can play it relys on timing things and lining up CDs to get the best out of so a couple decent tracking WAs really make this feel so much better.
I gave à try to shadow priest in ptr, and im sorry but i will not play warlock until they fix the grand warlock design issue. Affliction and destruction need revamp or at least put grand warlock design into the general talent tree. Demo is most complete but i still think the cd alignement is still weird and some talents just need to go...
They should be towards the top... We don't have the option to tank or heal like other, more versatile, classes can do. IMO if a class can ONLY do damage, they should always top the charts.
I’m new to locks this might be a stupid question but how are your destro moves the color green? Mine are orange? Is there a quest to get them to be green? If so how do I start it?
Did they change Dreadstalkers and Tyrant on PTR? I was on yesterday and Dogs had a 15 second CD instead of 20 and both Dogs and Tyrant had a shorter cast time.
Am i the only one who still got "bugs" on Warlock -Affli? if its even a bug or just a thing which feels very dumb :D If iam openening Haunt->Unstable Infliction->Agony->Corruption->Lifeleech->3 stacks of Shadows Embrace into Darkglare. At this moment, if i reapply UI while darkglare is up, i get 2 stacks of UI on the target, and if the first UI falls off i loose all my Malefic Affliction stacks, have to reapply them completely. Since UI did not get refreshed while darkglare is there instead getting a second stack, which is so weird... the only thing i found like a little workaround is to change the opener, H->A->-C->Lifeleech thingy->3x Shadows Embrace-> then apply UI. Now it wont fall off when refreshed later or while darkglare, no clue if Shadows Embrace plays a role in there, but getting the 3 stacks beforehand seems to help me. Anyone else noticed this? or Has an idea why i get 2 stacks of UI
im thinking about it tbh. i love my mage but god damn, im terrible with skb procs, arcane feels bloated tbh and frost is meh. meanwhile i love all 3 lock specs+
I recently tried out unholy in m+ and some pvp and it made me feel like why play boomkin or affli where you're constantly spreading dots and unholy basically does it with one skill. I been playing spriest since the start of df1 and the rework to it seems sweet.
Yes it's like why sweat playing affliction when other classes do the same with much less effort. Seems to be the core issue with some other class designs too. Complexity should be rewarded with better than average output.
if u want to m+ i dont recomande warlock bc its a 4hour tagging gameplay if u want to raid i recomand it but at the end warlock is not an easy classe for new players
They really just keep fucking affliction. I don’t get it. Was the worst spec at the start of dragonflight and they won’t let it become strong in any meaningful way. It’s like because it isn’t flashy like demo or have huge hitting abilities like destro, they want to keep it in last. It’s sad.
so TLDR Demo is again top spec and over all best for raiding and most likely mythics as its always been and the devs clearly just don't like other options to warlocks. or this is how its feeling for a player whos been around since TBC which was the only one I remember where they all were about the same and came down to preference
Nope, if you're on the fence about it DON'T main Warlock, we bring no real utility to m+ (cookies is not good utility when compared to lust, soothe, grips, rally or shroud) if you want to play a caster play mage they're always relevant in all forms of content unlike warlock which is only viable in raid and only for annoying reasons like gateways, cookies and soulstone which basically just means whenever you rez you have to summon you demon (without FD in case you die mid pull), set up a gate, summon cookies, set up your portal and Soulstone a Healer meanwhile your toxic ass RL is already doing a 10s pull timer which basically means playing as demo you never get your first pull set up right and to top it all off you have the constant whispers, summon plz, cookies, NO HEALERS ARE SOULSTONED yadda yadda. All in all warlock is a terrible class to main I'll give it a 2/10, oh and I almost forgot all of your specs are Haste scaling machines so be sure to enjoy not getting PI ever and have your teammates complain you don't do enough dps whilst comparing your logs to warlocks that are getting 3-5 PIs per fight, Kala is a HoF Guild he doesn't deal with this stuff at all so I wouldn't take anything positive he says too seriously unless you're on THAT level which only about 0.2% of the playerbase is.
As always u gave us an incredible Tip for new raid and m+ for the warlock!!! keep up the awesome work !!!
At least one Warlock spec is meta for 99% of the games life so Warlock is always a safe class to main
true for raid but not for M+, can't talk about PvP. I remember times where warlocks werer dogshit in M+ but it seems like it slowly changes since shadowlands destro lock reign and they are more welcome in M+. I personally like to run havoc dh + shadow priest + destro/fire mage + resto shammy + prot pally, with havoc and retri aura you get 10% dps increase for warlock, combine that with PI and warlocks melt the packs and bosses. Not to mention that warlocks are arguably the most tanky DPS spec? I think nothing is more tanky, amount of shields and self healing is just incredible
*only applies to raid
@@pr3287 Tanky sure, but I’ll pick Ice Block + Cauterize over Lock defensives toolkit any day.
@@JVL1988 I play all 13 class on high keys, my main is lock 420 but I fell more tanky on my ret with 415
try getting invite to any m+ above 23 while having all 23's done ++ in time and let me know how meta warlocks are.
It just feels like whoever is designing warlock only plays demo, the other two specs have major gameplay issues that they refuse to address.
Well the question... Should you play a warlock. Ive been playing the same warlock since week 2 of the game. Still play it as a main (Velvettwitch) Im not hardcore or even great but, i have fun, some xpacs are great some are not but i enjoy the spec and will continue. I like Kalamazi because he helps me get the most from her.
Lock is my main class. Always has been since WoW launched and Affliction has always been my main spec. Sad to see it once more nerfed down but I will never not play it.
But thing is we have nothing to worry and can only get buffed. Even worst warlock spec affliction is still great if you know how to play compared to many other classes and specs. Oh and for stats all 3 specs have almost exactly same stat priority meaning swapping to another one costs us nothing compared to some other classes.
I am gonna be the oddball warlock and play affliction. People forget how valuable dots are during mechanics , when you can't cast in raids. I don't care if I am not top on the meters, what matters is dishing out the damage when it matters to me.
I love the playstyle of all warlock specs, but with PI existing it's a dead class to me. I don't want to run arround begging priests for their PI.
Felt that
why
Then don't. Show them you can top DPS without PI
@@tvilkerino Your not topping the charts against say a hunter or rogue that allways gets the PI, well at least thats how it was for me in last tier might be different this next tier. I allways thought to myself why not PI me as a demo lock we benefit from it the most. But never voiced it because people get pissy about PI, honestly i think they should just remove it to much drama happens from it sometimes. Or just make PI for priest only.
@@jethrodark2372 PI can be a sore topic for groups for sure
Thanks man your videos are so fucking good you make everything so understandable and approachable as a new warlock playing! Gonna be maining demo in the new patch!!
Awesome video. Thank you
Thank you for sharing this, I'm a casual player and I main Warlock
Just make the 2pc let you CDF while moving. Easy fix
I picked Affliction Warlock as my first ever WoW character because I love DoT classes and casters in every game. I had a ton of fun leveling through the game but now that I've reached level 70 it feels really underwhelming. I feel like for a DOT class my main method of damage shouldn't just be spamming Malefic Rapture or Seed over and over again. After looking at a tier list and seeing they are basically considered bottom tier in modern endgame content I am considering trying out a different spec or honestly just rerolling a different class.
I totally agree on Malefic Rapture, it‘s not fun to play and doesn’t fit Aff. Seed instead is just cool to use besides it‘s extremely long cast time. With Seed you apply Corruption and you get the initial damage for application. It‘s not ideal but I honestly can‘t think of a better solution 🤷🏻♂️
Go destro
Doesn't feel good in pve, but affli never felt good in pve. I truly believe it is a true pvp spec
Thanks for the video. As much as it pains me to say, but I am glad I decided to not return to main Warlock. I dislike the constant playing Demo for 80% of the raid, while Aff is by far my favorite spec. It just feels like ever since the beginning of BfA, whenever Aff shines, it get's shot down to bottom of the barrel in the next balance patch and I just can't handle that heartbreak anymore.
So I switched form the tanky dps to just straight tank. I'm a shiny captain America with a Lock alt now ;(
This was the most tactful, kind, and diplomatic explanation of Affliction's place as the worst DPS spec in the game alongside Survival. You're a saint Kalamazi. 🖤 Maybe someday the devs will remove Malefic Rapture and Aff will be fun/relevant again.
Agree! MR is bullshit and they can remove Siphon Life and Dark Glare as well
This is the first time I don’t play warlock in a tier :(
Aff feels horrible. Destro is quite cool but has basically been the same since WoD. And mentioning WoD … I liked Demo there. But I cannot get used to the actual Demo 😢
Finally someone else that feels the same about Aff. Apparently people here accept literally everything Blizz does and so they really think Dark Glare (besides dot duration extension) and MR fits Aff 🤷🏻♂️ ridiculous 🤦🏻♂️
UA aff /Legion aff was way more fun than MA
@@borkguy hard agree!!! Loved the dot numbers popping up on targets… so satisfying 😄
I don't even need to watch this video (I'm going to though) to know that the answer is Yes. It has always been, and will always be, Yes. Warlock for life!
❤ i knew demo was the meta i mean destro might be awesome on 22s but for 20s pugstyle demo is the true path
Since you mentioned boomkin for a sec, they need ravenous frenzy talent for raids man. It’s been so dog with 95% single target fights.
Thanks!
no instant cast HoG procs is gonna suck in 10.1
True
Yeah i remember getting the four piece and everything just felt more fun both m+ and raid. They should throw it in as a talent
Thanks for your videos. My demo lock has been booted from raids based on low DPS. I have changed my rotation and talents based on your recommendations. I practice on dummys and have noticed that, with the exception of imps, my other demons do not show damage in combat log. I tried each separately to test and no damage is shown in log. Should these be shown? Is this a glitch? Shouldn't DPS include demon damage? Thanks in advance for your time.
Helps. I like to know whether or not aff is viable. If it's not, I'll be playing another class all together.
Thanks!
Currently not viable.
Sadly, it is not.
Hasn't been viable for more than 3 weeks at a time since Legion. I mained Aff for almost a decade, but haven't touched it since they ruined it with Malefic Rapture. Affliction seems to be a dead spec, like Survival and Assassination, basically forgotten by the devs. Try Shadow Priest or Balance Druid! 🖤
I think having Affliction not reliant on CDs makes it better than the other 2 specs. I seriously detest CDs in this game and any other game, I prefer sustained damage over burst any day of the week whether it's for keys, raiding or PvP, it doesn't matter. Sustained is much more fun over burst, especially the case in PvP where burst once it's done you're absolutely useless until it's back up again.
That being said, I'd love for them to just get rid of DarkGlare all together and Soul Rot, too, and instead make more things towards DoTs and buffing DoTs. I think, also, that Wrath of Consumption should be applied based off of damage, not having to have kills. "Every time Agony or Corruption damages a target, your Affliction Damage over Time spells deal 3% more damage, stacking 5 times. This effect last 20 seconds." Something like that would be fine. Darkglare should be replaced with DoTs doing splash damage onto all targets. there's your AoE. "Your Affliction Damage over Time spells deal 10% of their normal damage onto all nearby targets you are in combat with." The next 2 talents buff it an additional 10% with the last talent buffing it once more by 10% so you get to have up to 30% splash damage. That or, much like Creeping Death, the first talent replacing DG makes them tick even faster, next one gives 10/20% more damage and then the last talent in that column makes them splash 20-30% of their normal damage onto all nearby enemies you are in combat with that doesn't have CC on them.
I think Soul Rot should be replaced as well. I would prefer something like "For every Affliction Damage over Time effect on the target you gain 5% Haste, stacking up to 3 times." The next talent gives you an additional 1/2 more stacks for up to 25% Haste and then the last talent increases your Mastery by the same amount as your Haste so you get to have both Mastery and Haste increased by up to 25%. It can be 15% if 25% is too much.
I think Sow talents should be replaced, instead, to make room for a passive that makes Agony and Corruption apply themselves to targets that have not been damaged by your Agony or Corruption yet, making them auto spread every time they deal damage, but only for the first time to get them up there on the targets so you have passive spread the first time. It should be for Agony alone the first time where Seed is, then you can talent into Agony applying Corruption and that makes it auto apply Corruption then, much like how Spriest has Misery for VT to apply SW:P. Last talent in that spot for SoC should be replaced as well and give your Agony a 15% increased chance to generate shards if it's on 3 or more targets, maybe 4 or more Idk.
I think they should replace Pandemic nonsense with Death's Sentence or Row or whatever it was called in Legion. This was the ramping execute DoTs mechanic, but have it start at 100% enemy health instead of 35%. "Starting at 100% health, for every 2% health your targets lose, your Affliction Damage over Time spells deal 1% increased damage" (or deal damage 0.75% faster). I'd prefer faster damage over more damage, but it could be either one of those, but basically much the same as CD and other effects where it gains another 37.5% faster ticking speed without losing duration as an enemy dies or it deals 50% increased damage by the time the target goes to 0% HP. An execute DoT is still an execute DoT, though.
I can imagine shadow priests looking at destro locks be angry having to channel a 2.1 sec cast when sp have to channel a 3 sec cast that can't be hasted while also being less mobile
Great video as always! TLDR - Affliction needs general buffing, Destro is good but needs more mobility, Demo is good but just needs buffs to AOE or revert the AOE nerfs they recently put in.
I’m gonna play aff for most of the fights! At least until I get 4pc. New tier hypeee
the answer is you should main a pally. If youre already a pally main you should alt a pally. for raids in 10.1 we are taking a warrior for rally, a lock for rocks, a druid for roar, a mage for int, the rest will be pallies. mythic raid will be down in 2 days with this comp :P
Hope PI will get removed
Not removed but make it self only.
@@anneferguson7352 yeah that would be nice
Yeah true
You actually just hope twins of the sun-priestess gets removed. Shadow doesn’t deserve to have one of it’s CDs removed
Cringe take.
Lets pour one out for our murdered boy affliction
Looking for a caster to play for 10.1 but seems every spec is either heavily penalized by movement (fire mage pyro hardcasts, arcane in general, shadow, warlock in general) or tends to have poor ST which is most of Aberrus (ele, moonkin). Kinda weird how Blizz have designed so many casters like this.
Fire mage is literally one of the most mobile classes. Sounds like caster just isn’t for you.
It’s… the entire point of the role what do you mean. It’s the entire WAY the role is balanced. Melee is balanced around uptime being harder to keep than ranged.
@@Flysh24 Then why does every fire mage content creator complain about ring of power and pyroclasm+sun king's blessing forcing frequent long casts that you often have to cancel due to swirlies etc?
@@borkguy Not really. Casters were way more mobile in earlier expacs like MoP, and it's not like melee went extinct. At that time mandatory class buffs weren't really a thing either, and raid design was less melee friendly in general.
As far as the 3 lock specs go, it only is really destro that is really harshly punished by movement. Aff may be looking quite weak at the moment but it handles movement in raid at least really well. Demo also deals with it fine but can suck if you get a mechanic during Tyrant ramp sequence (even then you can manage). Would recommend giving them a try at least.
Is it going to be possible for Destro to have a M+ build that includes both RoF perks and CDF? Doesnt seem like it. Im a dedicated destro player and really dont want to have to try Demo in M+.
demo is real easy and pretty fun in keys
@@borkguy My prob is demo seems very very complicated comparitively. Ive watched his video and cant apply it to my playstyle. Are you aware of a video that is very basic and baby steps for a noober like me?
@@randomhuman19 Best thing to do is play it for a week. i was the same in SL i felt that demo was so clunky couldnt get into it. But i told myself DF will be Demo for me no matter where its sits in the meta. I stuck with it and can say its super satisfying to play. Its very versatile imo, just get used to your basic imp cycle, stack to 9 imps implode cast dogs as much as possible infact try cast ur CDs as much as possible, tyrant with as many imps out as possible get all ur demons out before tyrant its really not that complicated everything flows really nice. Give it a week your muscle memory will set in. Get yourself some tracking weak auras thats the only problem with Demo is the base UI is really not fit for the spec, sure u can play it relys on timing things and lining up CDs to get the best out of so a couple decent tracking WAs really make this feel so much better.
@@randomhuman19 what that guy said, the imp tracker weak aura is a MASSIVE help in m+/aoe settings for implosion timings, otherwise just reps
@@borkguy Do we implode as soon as ANY gang boss is about to expire, or are we trying to only implode when the "majority" are about to expire?
One day they will let us play aff again..
Will you do guides for each specc again or will you leave it at the 10.0.7 ones this time?
Also expecting their will be a new guide for each spec for 10.1 version
I gave à try to shadow priest in ptr, and im sorry but i will not play warlock until they fix the grand warlock design issue. Affliction and destruction need revamp or at least put grand warlock design into the general talent tree.
Demo is most complete but i still think the cd alignement is still weird and some talents just need to go...
Is there something similar with priest? Curious how other specs cd’s work I’ve never made an alt lol
@@Jay-407 no sp is really smooth since the rework and great to play
They should be towards the top... We don't have the option to tank or heal like other, more versatile, classes can do. IMO if a class can ONLY do damage, they should always top the charts.
You are delusional.
Strong entitlement
Yeah nah
I’m new to locks this might be a stupid question but how are your destro moves the color green? Mine are orange? Is there a quest to get them to be green? If so how do I start it?
Sealed tome of the lost legion!
Just google warlock green fire guide. You can be the tome Kalamazai mentioned off the auction house or farm it yourself.
@@Waevform found one on the AH and did the quest. Thank you!
Did they change Dreadstalkers and Tyrant on PTR? I was on yesterday and Dogs had a 15 second CD instead of 20 and both Dogs and Tyrant had a shorter cast time.
Pvp talent dread stalkers changed. You probably did a dummy pvp test in valdrakken. New talent rework reduces cd and cadt time of some demons.
Am i the only one who still got "bugs" on Warlock -Affli? if its even a bug or just a thing which feels very dumb :D If iam openening Haunt->Unstable Infliction->Agony->Corruption->Lifeleech->3 stacks of Shadows Embrace into Darkglare. At this moment, if i reapply UI while darkglare is up, i get 2 stacks of UI on the target, and if the first UI falls off i loose all my Malefic Affliction stacks, have to reapply them completely. Since UI did not get refreshed while darkglare is there instead getting a second stack, which is so weird... the only thing i found like a little workaround is to change the opener, H->A->-C->Lifeleech thingy->3x Shadows Embrace-> then apply UI. Now it wont fall off when refreshed later or while darkglare, no clue if Shadows Embrace plays a role in there, but getting the 3 stacks beforehand seems to help me. Anyone else noticed this? or Has an idea why i get 2 stacks of UI
I've only had UA bug on target dummy
I only have one toon and that's a warlock. So I'm playing warlock either way lol
im thinking about it tbh. i love my mage but god damn, im terrible with skb procs, arcane feels bloated tbh and frost is meh. meanwhile i love all 3 lock specs+
I doubt that Demo will take Pi from Unholy DK but im not Kalamazii level deep into it, so yea maybe im wrong
Hello, does anyone know if 20% buff to from grimoar affects implosion ?
FOTM's incoming!!!
bro, they been here. lol
Play what u want not what blizzard want u to play play warlock and hunter since 2005
Demo lock just got nerfed on ST…😢
I hope demo isnt nerfed because of pi.
Make aff great again.
I 2nd that make it huuuuuuge !!!!
blizzard won't listen to any of what is said here...really sad for locks.
but but mah affliction....Make Affliction Great Again!
Well, not shure if PI its better to a DK unholy or a demo lock. Hope we dont get nerf, and aff get a little buff
A demo lock for sure once they get 4p and the trinket
maaan, why is it always the case that affliction is very good or very bad? Come on blizzard
Got to love those capstones !! Free that man in the cage let him free ! I’m signing a petition for a pardon 🤣
in season 1 didnt like the raid as warlock im rdy for season 2 raid it looks fun as lock
I recently tried out unholy in m+ and some pvp and it made me feel like why play boomkin or affli where you're constantly spreading dots and unholy basically does it with one skill.
I been playing spriest since the start of df1 and the rework to it seems sweet.
Yes it's like why sweat playing affliction when other classes do the same with much less effort. Seems to be the core issue with some other class designs too. Complexity should be rewarded with better than average output.
The whole point of Aff was DoT management. That's what Aff mains enjoyed, back when that actually was the point.
if u want to m+ i dont recomande warlock bc its a 4hour tagging gameplay
if u want to raid i recomand it
but at the end warlock is not an easy classe for new players
I recommend English classes.
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I had switched to evoker for this patch I’m not sure if I should change back to lock or not 😅
They really just keep fucking affliction. I don’t get it. Was the worst spec at the start of dragonflight and they won’t let it become strong in any meaningful way. It’s like because it isn’t flashy like demo or have huge hitting abilities like destro, they want to keep it in last. It’s sad.
I can't imagine how pissed people that are fans of the specs that are somehow worse to play than Aff...
I sure do hate PI.
I wish i could play demo, but that spec makes no sense to me.
my bet is, demo will not last one month...
As someone that only plays Aff, this expansion has been disappointing.
Premium content as normal 🤘
u shouldnt play warlock , unless you get PI.
so TLDR Demo is again top spec and over all best for raiding and most likely mythics as its always been and the devs clearly just don't like other options to warlocks. or this is how its feeling for a player whos been around since TBC which was the only one I remember where they all were about the same and came down to preference
no U SHOULDNT
Nope, if you're on the fence about it DON'T main Warlock, we bring no real utility to m+ (cookies is not good utility when compared to lust, soothe, grips, rally or shroud) if you want to play a caster play mage they're always relevant in all forms of content unlike warlock which is only viable in raid and only for annoying reasons like gateways, cookies and soulstone which basically just means whenever you rez you have to summon you demon (without FD in case you die mid pull), set up a gate, summon cookies, set up your portal and Soulstone a Healer meanwhile your toxic ass RL is already doing a 10s pull timer which basically means playing as demo you never get your first pull set up right and to top it all off you have the constant whispers, summon plz, cookies, NO HEALERS ARE SOULSTONED yadda yadda.
All in all warlock is a terrible class to main I'll give it a 2/10, oh and I almost forgot all of your specs are Haste scaling machines so be sure to enjoy not getting PI ever and have your teammates complain you don't do enough dps whilst comparing your logs to warlocks that are getting 3-5 PIs per fight, Kala is a HoF Guild he doesn't deal with this stuff at all so I wouldn't take anything positive he says too seriously unless you're on THAT level which only about 0.2% of the playerbase is.
I played Warlock in 10.0. I finished the tier and unsubbed. Thanks Warlock :( . I am joking either. The DPS classes are not fun to play.