His humble and respectful personality also wins over arrogant Napoli ... what a lovable man Edward is, he definitely deserves the support he's getting ...
none of our opinions matter unless we taste it. After all, it is mostly about how it tastes. It might look good, but it may not be as tasty as someone else’s dish. We can only give our opinion on who should win after tasting the food, but in this case, that is not possible.
this show was as real as it could have been! the editing might be to blame to create drama. but the selection process like the ultimate blind tasting was solid! i felt that Edward Lee should have been the winner though- he created something new every time and unheard of. specially during his Infinite cooking hell session despite being jet lagged. and arriving just hours before that episode filming in Korea. he actually created a full 5-6 course meal with Tofu maintaining sequence like soup as a starter and all, finishing with a desert.
In viewer's hearts, Edward is the real winner .... Napoli wins only because the producers want to show that the future of korean cuisine is in good hands by letting the newbie win...
@@user-ev2gv9zk2t that cook seasoned her dish to complement with rice but didn’t serve any rice which ultimately made it generally salty. she was not eliminated just because, common now.
@@88feji nah he just napoli just had the better final dish lol, creativity is good but edward lee was taking a higher risk. Edward lee loss in flavor, napoli took the safe route and gave a dish he was familiar with his all and won.
@@dannybee46yeah I felt Edward’s final dish, while creative, was a bit underwhelming. Napoli definitely had the upper hand in how many flavors he could incorporate given he was making a main dish
I don’t hate natpoli matfia but I think lee edward should’ve won, he created Kentucky tofu in one of the finals, and even tofu crème brûlée. He has that creativity that no one can imagine. also dessert ttekbokki?? no one has ever heard of that!
The arrogance is kind of disturbing though ... watching him is like watching how a person's self-confidence can be expressed in the most disrespectful and off-putting ways possible .. yikes, I don't think I even want to step into his restaurant to support such a personality ...
@@samuelleung5314 tofu challenge isnt the finals tho. it was the losers bracket to determine who would face napoli. if the finals was a competition about most creative dish then i agree he shouldve won. But it wasnt.
@@88fejiare you speaking as a korean? Im asking because im did not see arrogance at him at any point? And he has a big problem that he doesn't speak korean so he probably doesn't understand anybody.
@@88feji This is such pure projection in your comments. You only perceive him as arrogant because this is what your idea of arrogance is. I believed he was creative in trying to bring his ideas to life while respecting the base form of the dishes he's trying to make. To say it was "disturbing" is ridiculous.
They botched the finale. They showed how good the chefs are in that culinary marathon.. while the other just watched .. then final cook off in just one meal to decide.. lame
Natpoli Matfia would never have won the hell tofu challenge let’s be real (not denying he’s definitely a good chef). However chef Edward Lee has always brought his A game and creativity in every single dish. Not one is ever the same. He’s more versatile and is so passionate and respectful of food! Nothing against Natpoli but EL should have won. IMO, it’s quite obvious from the get go that blacks or a ‘local’ Korean would win.
Actually, the white spoon chef who voted out from original team(not two people who wanted to leave) said it was a bit unfair rule for himself for real. So, personally i don't like how they made restaurant mission. I think 4 teams by 4 people would be more fair. That three chefs were one of my favorites. I should've been more fair.
I really think Edward Lee should have won, but the more I watch korean reality TV shows (which are great) I realise koreans, and korean producers may not be ready for a 'non Korean' to win.
Chef Edward Lee should have been the winner. Both him and Napoli Mafia brought their A game in terms of taste but the creativity in Chef Lee’s dish is unmatched. He created dishes that were unique and truly special.
Also, Napoli relied on typical expensive ingredients such as truffles and quality meat, what he made is not inventive ... great tastes achieved by quallity ingredients is nothing surprising ... If the judges had awarded Edward the win over 3stars in the pervious round due to creativity, they should have remained consistent in their judging criteria in the finale ....
none of our opinions matter unless we taste it. After all, it is mostly about how it tastes. It might look good, but it may not be as tasty as someone else’s dish. We can only give our opinion on who should win after tasting the food, but in this case, that is not possible.
I think the restaurant challenge has the only one unfair. They should declare the last team maximun 2 hours after, not 6 hours. And bring back 1 contestant to even the number of 4 per team.
Edward Lee was the winner in my eyes. He is so skilled and versatile with whatever ingredients you hand to him. Napoli matfia showed no respect towards such an established chef. and i wonder if he could have survived the tofu rounds. Also is this about heritage ? I wonder if there was a point to prove. Edward Lee is the true winner in my eyes because of his versatile ability to adapt and create techniques to create wonderful imaginative dishes
I agree that he's one of the best chefs in the culinary class war. However, in terms of taste during the final mission, I don't think his dessert can compete with a main dish the judges described as a 'full-course meal.' They said the 'Napoli Mafia' dish perfectly delivered all the components in one meal. The final theme was about putting 'your name' on the line, which felt like a way of showcasing the best dish-similar to the first episode, but with added meaning, making it more special and even poetic. Still, I agree with the sentiment that the finale could have been better. A three-dish contest would have been a more fitting way to determine the winner.
if that Napoli mafia guy really wanted to make a dish that had to do with his personality ... he should have overcooked something.. or let something burn.. would have totally been in line with his overblown attitude towards others.
Chef EL should have won. His dessert using tteokbokki concept was original and after watching him Kill IT on all the tofu dishes, it was shocking that he lost against a chef that used truffle, morel mushrooms, a 30yr bottle of barolo to flavor the sauce for the pistacho crusted lamb. That was not impressive at all. Anyone can make a dish taste delicious using the most expensive ingredients. The pasta was the only item that stood out in that dish. I was disappointed with the judges on selecting an unoriginal dish as the winner
The coin purse pasta also closely resembled the trash bag pasta from the first episode. I think the show puts a lot of weight on the stories behind the dishes - see the way that California Galbi got trashed in judging from preliminary round. With the final round theme being “name on the line” I felt that Edward Lee had a better fitting story and theme to the final. But, it’s a show in the end, and I’m certain this has brought in a huge outpouring of love for Edward Lee and his talents. Hope all the best for the chefs on the show.
Best show and good format but the only problem is the restaurant format is so disgustingly unfair when 3 got kicked. Should have make the price static like 40k won each and make dish and see who got more sales is better
Finished watching this yesterday and in my mind Edward lee is the real winner. Spaghetti dude would never have lasted in the tofu hell challange(which really should have been the grand finale)
to be honest edward lee shouldve been the winner . BUT these shows are already biased cause . They cant let a white spoon chef win cause theyre famous and succesful already . They created this for a black chef to win cause in these shows they will always choose and will be biased with the underdogs
Ed Lee had to overcome jet-lags and energy sapping hell rounds just to get to the final .... And he maintains that humility and respectful manners throughout, he really is the real deal all round...
I guess all shows are slightly scripted to create more drama or attract more viewers. I’m not sure how it works, but whatever they did, they definitely did a good job. What made me think it’s really scripted is the tofu challenge where Chef Hyun Seok Choi made that dish. From the early rounds, we all know he’s smart and knows how to play the game well. It’s hard to believe he chose that dish when he knew it would overpower the tofu. Overall, it was still very enjoyable and fair. I’m happy with the result!
Yup agree, imo it's slightly scripted but not to the point where it'll hugely affecting the show and make it as "fake". Most of the drama on this show is done by editing, not by a script. But I think there's no advantage for chef Choi to agree to cook a dish that'll be eliminated?
@@kaizenwhiz maybe the white spoon chefs were really just meant to be guests (paid per appearance/ episode). He was so smart during the other rounds esp his resto pricing strategy. The tofu dish was just too obvious. Noticed how he kept saying “I’m so disorganized” and the way he described the dish by highlighting the other ingredients overshadowing the tofu. As if he knew it was already bound to happen. But we will never know. Still happy with how the show turned out til the end. 🙌🏻💯
@@Kkggss1987 Hmm yeah you have a point. But I think if he was "destined" to be eliminated, then it'll be much more exciting for the show if he made that "mistake" on round 4 or 5, when it's the battle between him vs Edward vs triple star.
@@Kkggss1987 I find it strange that they kicked off 2 of the most talented chefs back to back. Chef Edward is also a good chef, but the way the judges kept talking about him and his dishes during the season finale was suspicious. Otherwise, I loved the show.
I agree but Chef Lee already has name on industry that's why they pick the black spoon to be the winner. But big round of applause for chef Lee his creativeness is really awesome
did you taste it? would you eat a dessert first before an entre and appetizer? edward leejust wanted to showcase his talents, he even defended napoli matfia because all you children are throwing tantrums
They literally gave the guy who only knows how to cook pasta a pass on the tofu challenge... and made him champ. It was dumb asf. Napoli Mafia wouldn't survive the infinite cooking hell. He makes tofu pasta, tofu ravioli, tofu risotto then gets a brain aneurysm from not knowing anything else.
I don't think that guy will pass the challenge in show like Masterchef Australia, where contestant have to cook food out of their comfort zone and from weird ingredients.
Why use exclamation mark for a period? Just kidding. LoL. I agree with you, I do like Edward Lee to win but that's the way it is. I think Maftia is also a great Chef.
Lee Kyun should have won the contest! He brought ingenuity, creativity and finesse to his dishes. Every trained chef can cook a rack of lamb but not everyone would have thought of making a dish like Lee Kyun served as his final dish.
Judging on the finale dish is not alone good to declare a champion. The final's dish should have been only pointed at 30% and the 70% should have been judged on their performances from the beginning of the culinary war. The total points should have been the champion"s points based on overall performance as per taste, flavor, creativity, and perfection.
Its curious how chef ahn says "edward lee dish was semi-perfect" with all his unumaginable creativity to make a really good dish, this show for me is a fuckng joke, edward lee is the true winner of this!
Honestly speaking without Chef Ahn wanted chef lee out. Looking at Paik he already felt Ahn judgement is biased and sht. Yeah Chef Ahn is a great chef but not a good judge. Maybe he should try joining also 😂😂😂. Bet what he made for them during break time wasn't even that great.
What puzzled me was the fact that there were always the same number of white and black chefs left after each round. Just like the final. I knew with 100% probability that Edward Lee would make it to the final because a black-black final wouldn't fit into the concept. These are points that show that the show was scripted.
For me everything was predictable... Every round black and white spoons will be even... I even guessed for the final round there will be white and black spoon...and I also thought black spoon will win 😂
Honestly predicted every winner for each round except the semi finals to create a dish that would inspire. Overall just based on how they describe their opinion about the dish and the creativity and technique level is enough to guess who will stay and who will not. Honestly don't care if it was somewhat scripted, but overall it was an interesting show and I do see that they were all cooking at a very high level as well. At one point before the finals there was 3 black spoon and 1 white spoon, ironically it was odd no one ever attempted to make a dessert out of tofu and bang someone just did coincidentally as the last dish. I can't say if it was completely scripted as based on skill wise I could easily put triple star to be on the Finals based on his composure and skills. Some of the Favorites early on the competition got eliminated as they made odd choices. Also in the early rounds why do they only pick black spoons to come back to compete like comic book chefs are purely because they saw potential and they were curious to see if they'll improve more. There are certain decisions that I was able to predict but did not expect throughout the competition that black and white would be equal in members. The only part that seems unfair was the team stage where 3 that contributed less will be removed on their previous teams to create a new one. They did not even increase their budget despite they are also very few compared to other teams who have 4 or 5 members.
They even let more losing black spoons back just to maintain an equal number from both sides to progress ... thats just obvious manipulation. It makes sense from viewership point of view to not let one side become too dominant, it also make sense to let the villain of the show (Napoli) get into the final easily with just 1 dish just to maintain tension in the finale ... villains usually go quite far in many reality shows ....
Yes. It was also funny to me, that there was always a balance between white and black spoons in a magical way. It was never more or less white and black spoons. They eliminated some white spoons just to keep it interesting after they eliminated so many black spoons at the beginning.
The restaurant challenge felt dumb, as the guests were offered a significant budget to indulge in whatever they wanted to eat. It made it so that the teams that strategized for budget-worthy meals basically did not have a chance to win. If you want me to eat a lobster normally worth around 7$ priced at $40, there's no way I would consider that. But if you give me a budget of $200, then why the h*ll not?? If the other teams had gotten the memo from the start that the guests would have a huge budget, then I'm pretty sure they'd jack up their prices as well.
@@marjhungalanido1257 Oh yeah, I am so sorry, the Tiramisu and some meat. I apologize, he has incredible depth. His arrogance (probably for the show), I cannot stand that. My personal opinion.
at the start of the show it said "only one Black shirt who win it all can have a name for himself". It's like saying the winner gonna be a black shirt or else the point of the show gonna be pointless. But then if they are competing with white shirt who suppose to have way more experience, how are you so sure one of the black shirt will be the final winner unless it's rigged from the start to make it that way. If it's only black shirt competing it would make sense for the format but it's always white and black do elimination together.
I noticed the intent to keep the numbers even, too! One round is fine but for all rounds to be perfectly even? (except when they were down to 15 ofc) It made me question if it was all coincidence.
There were a couple things that could've been better. Overall it was an incredible watch and even better in fairness than Physical 100. I personally liked that they tried to keep the black/white equals by balancing their numbers, but then why create an unfair 3vs4vs4vs4? That could easily have been solved by bringing back a White Chef who was eliminated in the Meat/Fish challenge. This chef would need to be chosen by both judges as to make it more theatrical. (I'd have picked Ferrari to stay, dude was an absolute blast and ray of sunshine) The suspense was too heavy and sometimes made it feel staged. With less intense editing and more cooking shots it would've been a bit less dramatic and feel less like a staged Black/White.
i definitely think there were parts were it rigged for drama like during the voting in the group round and the finals was probably rigged to make the black spoon chef win because although edward lee had a creative dish, it was only one dessert as compared to the many things napoli matfia made, why would he bank the whole final competiton on one dish without a main course..maybe he was told to do that
Chef E deserve to win!!!!!’He took it to next level even incorporating a touch of Korean in every dish. Amongst the contestant he is the only who did that. Finale was such a joke!!!!! Episode 11 was way better.
The younger judge gave 82 to edward lee for his gigimbap not because of the taste but the mixing thing..then the top 2 just watching other deserving chefs battle to death while having a free pass..edward lee should have won..giving this show thumbs down 👎
I knew something is fishy since the number of survivors from each team is always even in every stage. And not gonna lie, the level and standard of culinary creativity in this show is much much much less than the cooking contests like Top Chef. Eugene Lee felt really out of place here.
When asked if this was intentional, producer Kim Hak-min said, “It was decided that 22 people would advance to the third round. Super Pass was a planned device. Personally, the disappointing moment was when it became 11 to 11. Deep down, I hoped it would be different. I thought that was more realistic. The top 8 also became 4 black and 4 white, but this also had nothing to do with the production team's intentions. Rather, I felt personally disappointed,” he explained.
@@풀영상-s7x True, it was even 8：0 for the white at first .... I'm sure the producers began to worry about the huge imbalance of having the white destroying the black even before they get to the finale ... I do not for a moment believe that the blacks miraculously began to maintain equal footing for the rest of the episodes, they had help from the producers and biased judging ... even with the blind fold judging, I'm sure there are ways (which are edited out of course) for the judges to hint at which is the black one to win ...
The show should be just let 1 white chef against 80 blacks or 1 against 100. With this result and the plan for season 2, I wonder if any pro chef willing to join this show as White chefs only to be humiliated, since the scenario is to let the black chef win. They've been risking their name & restaurant, put some respect.
Napoli won like like he should have and honestly 3 star should have been second place but they wanted the other white shirt in the final facts are facts
the restaurant challenge i feel like self made’s team lost mainly because of their pricing. IIRC their dishes were all pretty cheap, and the their shrimp dish i think was really famous. like edward lee’s team’s steak was probably double or 1.5x more expensive than any of their dishes. Honestly i would’ve preferred if they brought back eliminated chefs instead of the kicking out members thing
I had a feeling they let a local Korean national won this competition because this was a battle of the best chef in "Korea". Any foreigner winning this competition is a slap on their face, telling people that the best Korean chef is an "American" - Ain't gonna happen. I was cheering for Chef Edward Lee to win but I knew they were going to pull something like this to leave an impression that the winner is a local Korean chef. Imagine a Korean beating someone who won Iron Chef? I think the best way to determine who the best chef is was to do the Infinite cooking hell. The final battle was just lame.
Creativity and flavour wise, the judges would always pick EL. But they choose the winner based on the theme of the challenge and I believe Mafia deserves the win for final round. But to be called the greatest chef in that show, for me, hands down it’s Edward Lee.
i like napoli matifa and i was rooting for him, i do think he deserved his win and TBH if edward had won he probably would have shared with him, however i agree w the sentiments that the finale was underwhelming. i was literally falling asleep during it LOL additionally i think the revelation of the judges' secret criteria after the first round of the cooking hell was a little dirty, i really wanted to see what else chef choi could have come up with
It is so obvious that the show was partially orchestrated to have both white and black spoons until the end ! Just like any korean game show, and that's okay !
such a lame ending I cant get over, I even had nightmares at night I feel sorry for chef Edward they clearly stole his victory. or the judges was being insecure
Actually I had a friend (white, blonde) move to South Korea. It was her dream to teach English there. She said they were incredibly racist to her, and were very anti-internationalism. That being said, it’s still so heartbreaking to hear how the audience was against Jung Ji-sun just because she married a foreigner? The comments and hate she’s getting are wild. I understand preserving culture (look how Central Europe is going downhill. It’s where I live), but there’s no need for such behavior. I think everyone is in agreement that Edward Lee should’ve won, but Napoli Mafia was amazing. As was Triple Star (he wowed me from the beginning). So I can imagine, maybe citizenship had something to do with it. Maybe. All this to say, I don’t think anything looked rigged. Of course we can never know, but I can’t imagine that being rigged, it was very real. The voice-actor thing is quite the stretch. If anything, blame the editing, which I thought was good regardless. It’s my own dream to go to South Korea, just on vacation, as I love the culture, food, and especially the movies and TVs. I have many South Korean friends, and it seems like a beautiful and exciting place!
This show was biased af The infinite challenge showed who had enough versatility and creativity to be the winner. I don't care how good you are at italian cuisine, if you don't get out of your comfort zone, I don't think you deserve to win. He is not creating anything or reinventing anything. If you are just using italian element, does that dish really should be called "your name"? *rolleyes*
I was wondering too ... why is he repeatedly allowed to create his favourite western dishes while others are eliminated for relying too much on their style ? The judges do not seem to apply their criteria in that way ....
Should have known as he's obviously the show's villain due to his disrespectful arrogance, keeping him around till the end would maintain dramatic interest of course ....
아니 그래도 에드워드 리가 1위하는 걸 원하는 사람이 많은 건 알겠는데, 나폴리 맛피아가 겪어온 역경들은 아무도 말을 안 하네 ㅋㅋ 비호감 짓을 한 건 사실이지만, 그래도 착한 사람인데 너무한거 아니냐. 1라운드 에서는 지가 젤 잘하는 파스타 했는데 꽃넣었다고 보류 당하고, 2라운드에서는 악명높은 홍어 당첨되고, 3라운드에선 리조또 만들었다가 그놈의 알단테 때문에 패배, 4라운드에선 가격 전략 억까 때문에 3위가 되는 등 수난을 겪었는데, 패자부활전에선 전략을 잘 짜서 밤 티라미수로 생존하고, 4라운드도 한국말 잘 못하는 에드워드리를 보필해 자신의 활약을 과시해 생존, 5라운드는 진짜로 두 심사위원들에게 정당한 평가를 받고 올라가서 자신의 이름을 건 요리로 가장 잘하는 파스타를 내서 정정당당하게 이겼는데 뭐가 문제임? 니들이 그렇게 원하는 에드워드 리가 마지막까지 자신이 원하는 실험적인 퓨전 요리를 내놓았는데 살면서 첨 해본 요리랑 평생 요리해본 요리랑 비교가 된다고 생각함? 아무리 고수라도 첨해본 요리는 연습을 좀 했더라도 힘든게 사실임. 심지어 스테이크 전문인데 디저트를 고수급으로 잘 할 수는 없잖음. 에드워드리는 자신의 정체성을 찾는 여정을 하기 위해 온거고 그 목적을 이루고 흑수저 맛피아는 우승했으니 훈훈하게 끝났다고 봄. 그렇게 쇼를 조작하지 말라면서 에드워드 리가 못 이겼다고 재미없다고 하는 놈들이 젤 모순적임. 그래도 오락을 위한 프로그램인데 좀 흥미진진하게 만들기 위해 밸런스 좀 맞춰놓으면 조작이라고 지랄, 아예 쌩으로 하면 결과가 뻔해서 재미없다고 지랄. 존나 이중적임 ㅋㅋ
LOL at 3:50 Is it possible Netflix saved some money by hiring voice dubbers from the old 1970's karate movies....? 🤣 That dubbing was positively painful to listen to, reduced the enjoyment of the show IMO.
Ultimately it's was a cool show, but there was definitely some rigging going on. Even with completely equal talent it's pretty unlikely there would have been exactly the same number of white and black chefs remaining at the end of every challenge.
how is it the veterans and more experienced chefs like Chef Edward Lee had under go such brutal challenge when they proved a lot of things, Napoli Mafia should join the tofu challenge or all of them
I mean of course they'd have to rig the show a little bit to make it more equal on both black spoins and white spoons sides. Why would they make a show where there are only white spoons who already have a name for themselves-. You could argue they could have more black spoons but then it would also be less exciting since its a bunch of people we have to keep referring to as "triple star" or "cooking maniac" etc. etc. I do have a question. In the first episode did they not split the 80 black spoons into 2 groups of 40? Did they only show one of the groups and just not aired tbe second one? Or was it just clipped into one episode (which im assuming is the case but the editing made it seem like only one group was allowed through)
To some degree, survival shows are scripted. For this show, they definitely tried too hard to keep the balance of black and white team. That was painfully obvious.
@@wengo44 When asked if this was intentional, producer Kim Hak-min said, “It was decided that 22 people would advance to the third round. Super Pass was a planned device. Personally, the disappointing moment was when it became 11 to 11. Deep down, I hoped it would be different. I thought that was more realistic. The top 8 also became 4 black and 4 white, but this also had nothing to do with the production team's intentions. Rather, I felt personally disappointed,” he explained.
@@풀영상-s7x so basically saying that even number of black and white team was unintentional? that is hard to believe. that is nearly impossible. anyway, i am more upset about that winner guy being a total knob head at the end of the last episode. dissing edward lee saying "i will send you home packing" when edward has been so polite and gentle until the end.
Seonkyung was insufferable the entire series. The two judge format was okay but they deferred Anh Sung Jae in literally every 1:1 so it didnt really feel fair sometimes
I don’t like the final competition. It felt so rushed and incoherent. Should the final competition set for a three course meal with entree, main and dessert like MasterChef? So the judges can have a more holistic consideration with who’s the best winner? But I guess they try not to be rhetorical same with MasterChef …
Unfair competition may result fair outcome for the chefs. They are all great chefs under an unfair competition, so, I will try my best to visit as many of their restaurants as possible 😅
It's a cooking show... I doubt they'd go to great lengths to conspire in there but I'm sure that, like any other reality TV show, they probably pulled some strings here and there to keep things going in the direction the producers felt would be most interesting. Is it fair? Probably not. I honestly doubt the guy who won is really the best chef among the 100's we saw compete. But I don't think anyone who participates in that kind of show really expects that it's going to be perfectly fair like a sanctioned athletic competition would be. It's mostly a promotional tool for the participants. I think they could've just avoided some of the controversy by being more transparent. For instance when the judges brought back participants, they could very well just have stated plainly that they were looking only at black spoons. Even if that had been only a personal choice of the judges. I would've seen nothing wrong with them saying they would consider only black spoon given that they want to give them more exposure, or that they're being less forgiving with the white spoons in early rounds given their experience.
you might say whatever you want, however, if the main judges decided for black and white and 2 blacks, they were right. and i think when you put people with limited skilled together and join on one thing as one, they can be just as good as white spoons. And they had triple star who worked for 3 star michelin restaurant so he knew what he was doing. i think this comes with no brainer, that they were rightfully selected as they were geniunely good team. 7:20
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Infinite cooking hell mission should have been the finals format. That shit was brutal!
True
I agree, thats the real war.
agreed!!! only a genius and creative chef would survive this mission
Exactlyyyyu i do think if napoli joins the game… he would lose
It was the coolest challenge and Edward Lee should have won the show with that performance.
Chef Edward Lee should've won! Infinite cooking hell is way way way better than the final round!!
His humble and respectful personality also wins over arrogant Napoli ... what a lovable man Edward is, he definitely deserves the support he's getting ...
none of our opinions matter unless we taste it. After all, it is mostly about how it tastes. It might look good, but it may not be as tasty as someone else’s dish. We can only give our opinion on who should win after tasting the food, but in this case, that is not possible.
I totally agree!!
this show was as real as it could have been! the editing might be to blame to create drama. but the selection process like the ultimate blind tasting was solid! i felt that Edward Lee should have been the winner though- he created something new every time and unheard of. specially during his Infinite cooking hell session despite being jet lagged. and arriving just hours before that episode filming in Korea. he actually created a full 5-6 course meal with Tofu maintaining sequence like soup as a starter and all, finishing with a desert.
In viewer's hearts, Edward is the real winner .... Napoli wins only because the producers want to show that the future of korean cuisine is in good hands by letting the newbie win...
But them disqualifying the home cook Korean old woman over no rice bruh
@@user-ev2gv9zk2t that cook seasoned her dish to complement with rice but didn’t serve any rice which ultimately made it generally salty. she was not eliminated just because, common now.
@@88feji nah he just napoli just had the better final dish lol, creativity is good but edward lee was taking a higher risk. Edward lee loss in flavor, napoli took the safe route and gave a dish he was familiar with his all and won.
@@dannybee46yeah I felt Edward’s final dish, while creative, was a bit underwhelming. Napoli definitely had the upper hand in how many flavors he could incorporate given he was making a main dish
I don’t hate natpoli matfia but I think lee edward should’ve won, he created Kentucky tofu in one of the finals, and even tofu crème brûlée. He has that creativity that no one can imagine. also dessert ttekbokki?? no one has ever heard of that!
The arrogance is kind of disturbing though ... watching him is like watching how a person's self-confidence can be expressed in the most disrespectful and off-putting ways possible .. yikes, I don't think I even want to step into his restaurant to support such a personality ...
@@samuelleung5314 tofu challenge isnt the finals tho. it was the losers bracket to determine who would face napoli. if the finals was a competition about most creative dish then i agree he shouldve won. But it wasnt.
@@88fejiare you speaking as a korean? Im asking because im did not see arrogance at him at any point? And he has a big problem that he doesn't speak korean so he probably doesn't understand anybody.
@@88feji This is such pure projection in your comments. You only perceive him as arrogant because this is what your idea of arrogance is. I believed he was creative in trying to bring his ideas to life while respecting the base form of the dishes he's trying to make. To say it was "disturbing" is ridiculous.
@@88fejiare you talking about Natpoli Matfia?
They botched the finale. They showed how good the chefs are in that culinary marathon.. while the other just watched .. then final cook off in just one meal to decide.. lame
Agree totally not fair
True should have made 3 course dish instead to make other chef have a chance since Napoli Matfia clearly destroys everyone in one dish only
I agree
@@iampower5547 if its 3 course, man that would be fire. still, the hell challenge was brutal asf. that should be the final in my opinion
Edward showed way more creativity and grit through that Hell Round than Matfia just sitting watching. Poor decision by the show.
Natpoli Matfia would never have won the hell tofu challenge let’s be real (not denying he’s definitely a good chef). However chef Edward Lee has always brought his A game and creativity in every single dish. Not one is ever the same. He’s more versatile and is so passionate and respectful of food! Nothing against Natpoli but EL should have won. IMO, it’s quite obvious from the get go that blacks or a ‘local’ Korean would win.
the finale was underwhelming, meat vs dessert what do you expect.
the "hell cooking" was a great idea tho, finale worthy tbh
Exactly he worthy it very well 👌
Chef Edward Lee/Lee Kyun should have won. his final dish was far better than anybody would have imagined.
did u taste it?
how would you know without tasting it? it is about how it taste.
Just watching it, I think judge is biased at some point already.
Nah it doesn't look satisfying to be fair why the heck he serve a dessert.😂 he gamble but failed.
@@Withjoyfulsenescence bias so they picked less famous one?
Actually, the white spoon chef who voted out from original team(not two people who wanted to leave) said it was a bit unfair rule for himself for real. So, personally i don't like how they made restaurant mission. I think 4 teams by 4 people would be more fair. That three chefs were one of my favorites. I should've been more fair.
Agree!!! So unfair to them!
He got literally teary.. he was visibly upset about that.
I like Chef EL he deserves to be the host/judge next season
Manifesting that please wanna see him in season 2
Wanna see him judging the bias chef Ahn 🤣🤣
I really think Edward Lee should have won, but the more I watch korean reality TV shows (which are great) I realise koreans, and korean producers may not be ready for a 'non Korean' to win.
Chef Edward Lee should have been the winner. Both him and Napoli Mafia brought their A game in terms of taste but the creativity in Chef Lee’s dish is unmatched. He created dishes that were unique and truly special.
Also, Napoli relied on typical expensive ingredients such as truffles and quality meat, what he made is not inventive ... great tastes achieved by quallity ingredients is nothing surprising ...
If the judges had awarded Edward the win over 3stars in the pervious round due to creativity, they should have remained consistent in their judging criteria in the finale ....
An American wasn’t going to win a korean cooking competition.
none of our opinions matter unless we taste it. After all, it is mostly about how it tastes. It might look good, but it may not be as tasty as someone else’s dish. We can only give our opinion on who should win after tasting the food, but in this case, that is not possible.
@@grow1820f off. Stop commenting the same thing under every comment like a bot.
I agree. Napoli kept using pasta in most of his dishes.
Chef Lee constantly created new dishes and recipes. Was always changing things up.
The show was brilliant. But the finale was disappointing
I think the restaurant challenge has the only one unfair. They should declare the last team maximun 2 hours after, not 6 hours. And bring back 1 contestant to even the number of 4 per team.
Edward Lee was the winner in my eyes. He is so skilled and versatile with whatever ingredients you hand to him. Napoli matfia showed no respect towards such an established chef. and i wonder if he could have survived the tofu rounds. Also is this about heritage ? I wonder if there was a point to prove. Edward Lee is the true winner in my eyes because of his versatile ability to adapt and create techniques to create wonderful imaginative dishes
Overall it’s a good show, even chefs that not make to the top 8, their restaurant get so popular now
Whatever may be, I enjoyed this series tremendously. BEST cooking show out there.
Yeah they are making some drama for nothing
I agree that he's one of the best chefs in the culinary class war. However, in terms of taste during the final mission, I don't think his dessert can compete with a main dish the judges described as a 'full-course meal.' They said the 'Napoli Mafia' dish perfectly delivered all the components in one meal. The final theme was about putting 'your name' on the line, which felt like a way of showcasing the best dish-similar to the first episode, but with added meaning, making it more special and even poetic. Still, I agree with the sentiment that the finale could have been better. A three-dish contest would have been a more fitting way to determine the winner.
Kinda like master chef where they have appetizer main course and dessert
if that Napoli mafia guy really wanted to make a dish that had to do with his personality ... he should have overcooked something.. or let something burn.. would have totally been in line with his overblown attitude towards others.
Chef EL should have won. His dessert using tteokbokki concept was original and after watching him Kill IT on all the tofu dishes, it was shocking that he lost against a chef that used truffle, morel mushrooms, a 30yr bottle of barolo to flavor the sauce for the pistacho crusted lamb. That was not impressive at all. Anyone can make a dish taste delicious using the most expensive ingredients. The pasta was the only item that stood out in that dish. I was disappointed with the judges on selecting an unoriginal dish as the winner
The coin purse pasta also closely resembled the trash bag pasta from the first episode. I think the show puts a lot of weight on the stories behind the dishes - see the way that California Galbi got trashed in judging from preliminary round. With the final round theme being “name on the line” I felt that Edward Lee had a better fitting story and theme to the final. But, it’s a show in the end, and I’m certain this has brought in a huge outpouring of love for Edward Lee and his talents. Hope all the best for the chefs on the show.
@@davidchan9979 I just wonder do the judge & the producer realize that they make Italian dish as winning food for Korean cooking show. What a joke.
Exactly 😂 Truffles, Morels and Wine. Lee’s dessert is more economical and interesting.
Maybe they just wanted the show to end.
Well said
I would want to try EL finale dish. He is really creative. Unlike the pasta winner
I think edward lee deserved to win
Best show and good format but the only problem is the restaurant format is so disgustingly unfair when 3 got kicked. Should have make the price static like 40k won each and make dish and see who got more sales is better
I could not agree with you more, 100% spot on.
Finished watching this yesterday and in my mind Edward lee is the real winner. Spaghetti dude would never have lasted in the tofu hell challange(which really should have been the grand finale)
to be honest edward lee shouldve been the winner . BUT these shows are already biased cause . They cant let a white spoon chef win cause theyre famous and succesful already . They created this for a black chef to win cause in these shows they will always choose and will be biased with the underdogs
Ed Lee had to overcome jet-lags and energy sapping hell rounds just to get to the final ....
And he maintains that humility and respectful manners throughout, he really is the real deal all round...
@@88feji he maintains humility but his fans are children that cope and seethe
@@alexw5042 his fans are a bit much.
I guess all shows are slightly scripted to create more drama or attract more viewers. I’m not sure how it works, but whatever they did, they definitely did a good job.
What made me think it’s really scripted is the tofu challenge where Chef Hyun Seok Choi made that dish. From the early rounds, we all know he’s smart and knows how to play the game well. It’s hard to believe he chose that dish when he knew it would overpower the tofu.
Overall, it was still very enjoyable and fair. I’m happy with the result!
Yup agree, imo it's slightly scripted but not to the point where it'll hugely affecting the show and make it as "fake".
Most of the drama on this show is done by editing, not by a script.
But I think there's no advantage for chef Choi to agree to cook a dish that'll be eliminated?
@@kaizenwhiz maybe the white spoon chefs were really just meant to be guests (paid per appearance/ episode). He was so smart during the other rounds esp his resto pricing strategy. The tofu dish was just too obvious. Noticed how he kept saying “I’m so disorganized” and the way he described the dish by highlighting the other ingredients overshadowing the tofu. As if he knew it was already bound to happen. But we will never know. Still happy with how the show turned out til the end. 🙌🏻💯
Chefs aren’t always perfect.
@@Kkggss1987 Hmm yeah you have a point. But I think if he was "destined" to be eliminated, then it'll be much more exciting for the show if he made that "mistake" on round 4 or 5, when it's the battle between him vs Edward vs triple star.
@@Kkggss1987 I find it strange that they kicked off 2 of the most talented chefs back to back. Chef Edward is also a good chef, but the way the judges kept talking about him and his dishes during the season finale was suspicious. Otherwise, I loved the show.
There’s no way this show could convince me Natpoli won over Edward
It was a great show until the wrong winner was picked.
I agree but Chef Lee already has name on industry that's why they pick the black spoon to be the winner. But big round of applause for chef Lee his creativeness is really awesome
@@jearalyntherese1714 So you're saying it's not a fair and true judgement, but a biased one. Your statement makes the show pointless.
did you taste it? would you eat a dessert first before an entre and appetizer? edward leejust wanted to showcase his talents, he even defended napoli matfia because all you children are throwing tantrums
@@alexw5042 obviously you don't know the criteria.
@@Xerroh and you do? are you the producer? are you the judge? were you there?
They literally gave the guy who only knows how to cook pasta a pass on the tofu challenge... and made him champ. It was dumb asf. Napoli Mafia wouldn't survive the infinite cooking hell. He makes tofu pasta, tofu ravioli, tofu risotto then gets a brain aneurysm from not knowing anything else.
I don't think that guy will pass the challenge in show like Masterchef Australia, where contestant have to cook food out of their comfort zone and from weird ingredients.
he got a pass for winning a challenge? why would he need to be in the loser’s bracket?
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Chef Edward Lee should've won......period!!!!
Why use exclamation mark for a period? Just kidding. LoL. I agree with you, I do like Edward Lee to win but that's the way it is. I think Maftia is also a great Chef.
Totally agree!!!! Chef Edward proved it. Totally took it the next level. Finale was so lame.
Lee Kyun should have won the contest! He brought ingenuity, creativity and finesse to his dishes. Every trained chef can cook a rack of lamb but not everyone would have thought of making a dish like Lee Kyun served as his final dish.
Judging on the finale dish is not alone good to declare a champion. The final's dish should have been only pointed at 30% and the 70% should have been judged on their performances from the beginning of the culinary war. The total points should have been the champion"s points based on overall performance as per taste, flavor, creativity, and perfection.
Its curious how chef ahn says "edward lee dish was semi-perfect" with all his unumaginable creativity to make a really good dish, this show for me is a fuckng joke, edward lee is the true winner of this!
Honestly speaking without Chef Ahn wanted chef lee out.
Looking at Paik he already felt Ahn judgement is biased and sht.
Yeah Chef Ahn is a great chef but not a good judge. Maybe he should try joining also 😂😂😂. Bet what he made for them during break time wasn't even that great.
Just finished watching and i Couldn’t agree more!! I felt the same ! Chef Ahn wanted Chef lee out. His judgement was so biased !
@@tili.h9726 the only time he voted for chef lee was when he was blindfolded. The rest is sht judgement
What puzzled me was the fact that there were always the same number of white and black chefs left after each round. Just like the final. I knew with 100% probability that Edward Lee would make it to the final because a black-black final wouldn't fit into the concept. These are points that show that the show was scripted.
For me everything was predictable... Every round black and white spoons will be even... I even guessed for the final round there will be white and black spoon...and I also thought black spoon will win 😂
uh ok…?
Its lazy writing weww
Honestly predicted every winner for each round except the semi finals to create a dish that would inspire. Overall just based on how they describe their opinion about the dish and the creativity and technique level is enough to guess who will stay and who will not. Honestly don't care if it was somewhat scripted, but overall it was an interesting show and I do see that they were all cooking at a very high level as well. At one point before the finals there was 3 black spoon and 1 white spoon, ironically it was odd no one ever attempted to make a dessert out of tofu and bang someone just did coincidentally as the last dish. I can't say if it was completely scripted as based on skill wise I could easily put triple star to be on the Finals based on his composure and skills. Some of the Favorites early on the competition got eliminated as they made odd choices. Also in the early rounds why do they only pick black spoons to come back to compete like comic book chefs are purely because they saw potential and they were curious to see if they'll improve more. There are certain decisions that I was able to predict but did not expect throughout the competition that black and white would be equal in members. The only part that seems unfair was the team stage where 3 that contributed less will be removed on their previous teams to create a new one. They did not even increase their budget despite they are also very few compared to other teams who have 4 or 5 members.
They even let more losing black spoons back just to maintain an equal number from both sides to progress ... thats just obvious manipulation.
It makes sense from viewership point of view to not let one side become too dominant, it also make sense to let the villain of the show (Napoli) get into the final easily with just 1 dish just to maintain tension in the finale ... villains usually go quite far in many reality shows ....
Yes. It was also funny to me, that there was always a balance between white and black spoons in a magical way. It was never more or less white and black spoons. They eliminated some white spoons just to keep it interesting after they eliminated so many black spoons at the beginning.
The restaurant challenge felt dumb, as the guests were offered a significant budget to indulge in whatever they wanted to eat. It made it so that the teams that strategized for budget-worthy meals basically did not have a chance to win. If you want me to eat a lobster normally worth around 7$ priced at $40, there's no way I would consider that. But if you give me a budget of $200, then why the h*ll not?? If the other teams had gotten the memo from the start that the guests would have a huge budget, then I'm pretty sure they'd jack up their prices as well.
Only knows how to cook pasta is the champion? Unbelievable.
Who said he only knows pasta?
@@marjhungalanido1257 Oh yeah, I am so sorry, the Tiramisu and some meat. I apologize, he has incredible depth. His arrogance (probably for the show), I cannot stand that. My personal opinion.
@@WHATEVER911GTNo most netizens agree that it was unfair that Edward was put through so much more and survived but Matfia didn’t have to.
@@marjhungalanido1257
The judges said so.
@@marjhungalanido1257
I remember the judges saying they know he's good at making pasta, so they wonder if he will come up with something different ...
at the start of the show it said "only one Black shirt who win it all can have a name for himself". It's like saying the winner gonna be a black shirt or else the point of the show gonna be pointless. But then if they are competing with white shirt who suppose to have way more experience, how are you so sure one of the black shirt will be the final winner unless it's rigged from the start to make it that way. If it's only black shirt competing it would make sense for the format but it's always white and black do elimination together.
I noticed the intent to keep the numbers even, too! One round is fine but for all rounds to be perfectly even? (except when they were down to 15 ofc) It made me question if it was all coincidence.
God this was good. Edward Lee did such an amazing creative job. I was rooting for him
The show was so unfair 😢 especially the 3 eliminated chef.
I have no problem if they staged certain elements. The fact that you are making this video tells me this show was the bomb.
Koreans know how to make tv shows
Chef Lee should've won!
There were a couple things that could've been better. Overall it was an incredible watch and even better in fairness than Physical 100.
I personally liked that they tried to keep the black/white equals by balancing their numbers, but then why create an unfair 3vs4vs4vs4? That could easily have been solved by bringing back a White Chef who was eliminated in the Meat/Fish challenge. This chef would need to be chosen by both judges as to make it more theatrical. (I'd have picked Ferrari to stay, dude was an absolute blast and ray of sunshine)
The suspense was too heavy and sometimes made it feel staged. With less intense editing and more cooking shots it would've been a bit less dramatic and feel less like a staged Black/White.
I wonder if Napoli Matfia would have made it pass the infinity tofu challenge :/
Staged or not I was entertained, that’s the point for me.
I don’t like how they made the finale.
i definitely think there were parts were it rigged for drama like during the voting in the group round and the finals was probably rigged to make the black spoon chef win because although edward lee had a creative dish, it was only one dessert as compared to the many things napoli matfia made, why would he bank the whole final competiton on one dish without a main course..maybe he was told to do that
Chef E deserve to win!!!!!’He took it to next level even incorporating a touch of Korean in every dish. Amongst the contestant he is the only who did that. Finale was such a joke!!!!! Episode 11 was way better.
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This channel as a whole wants to start sh* about non important issues or false claims lol
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uhh ... letting more losing black spoons come back to progress just to maintain equal ratio is not openly rigging the show ??
@@88feji why don't you create your own and stop b*ing online? If it looks so easy and unfair? lol
The younger judge gave 82 to edward lee for his gigimbap not because of the taste but the mixing thing..then the top 2 just watching other deserving chefs battle to death while having a free pass..edward lee should have won..giving this show thumbs down 👎
I knew something is fishy since the number of survivors from each team is always even in every stage. And not gonna lie, the level and standard of culinary creativity in this show is much much much less than the cooking contests like Top Chef. Eugene Lee felt really out of place here.
Of course, it is even. That is how many the judges select so that there can be a competition between an even number of players.
When asked if this was intentional, producer Kim Hak-min said, “It was decided that 22 people would advance to the third round. Super Pass was a planned device. Personally, the disappointing moment was when it became 11 to 11. Deep down, I hoped it would be different. I thought that was more realistic. The top 8 also became 4 black and 4 white, but this also had nothing to do with the production team's intentions. Rather, I felt personally disappointed,” he explained.
@@풀영상-s7x
True, it was even 8：0 for the white at first ....
I'm sure the producers began to worry about the huge imbalance of having the white destroying the black even before they get to the finale ...
I do not for a moment believe that the blacks miraculously began to maintain equal footing for the rest of the episodes, they had help from the producers and biased judging ... even with the blind fold judging, I'm sure there are ways (which are edited out of course) for the judges to hint at which is the black one to win ...
The show should be just let 1 white chef against 80 blacks or 1 against 100. With this result and the plan for season 2, I wonder if any pro chef willing to join this show as White chefs only to be humiliated, since the scenario is to let the black chef win. They've been risking their name & restaurant, put some respect.
Napoli won like like he should have and honestly 3 star should have been second place but they wanted the other white shirt in the final facts are facts
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Chef Edward lost because he's American, that's all there is to it
the restaurant challenge i feel like self made’s team lost mainly because of their pricing. IIRC their dishes were all pretty cheap, and the their shrimp dish i think was really famous. like edward lee’s team’s steak was probably double or 1.5x more expensive than any of their dishes.
Honestly i would’ve preferred if they brought back eliminated chefs instead of the kicking out members thing
I had a feeling they let a local Korean national won this competition because this was a battle of the best chef in "Korea". Any foreigner winning this competition is a slap on their face, telling people that the best Korean chef is an "American" - Ain't gonna happen.
I was cheering for Chef Edward Lee to win but I knew they were going to pull something like this to leave an impression that the winner is a local Korean chef. Imagine a Korean beating someone who won Iron Chef?
I think the best way to determine who the best chef is was to do the Infinite cooking hell. The final battle was just lame.
Creativity and flavour wise, the judges would always pick EL. But they choose the winner based on the theme of the challenge and I believe Mafia deserves the win for final round. But to be called the greatest chef in that show, for me, hands down it’s Edward Lee.
either EL or the 1,2,3 guy should have won.
Chef EL should have won. NM is good but I don't appreciate the arrogance.
i like napoli matifa and i was rooting for him, i do think he deserved his win and TBH if edward had won he probably would have shared with him, however i agree w the sentiments that the finale was underwhelming. i was literally falling asleep during it LOL
additionally i think the revelation of the judges' secret criteria after the first round of the cooking hell was a little dirty, i really wanted to see what else chef choi could have come up with
I think Netflix was genuinely genius, if all this shit not happen they will goes on and forgetting the show
The final one is boring!
It is so obvious that the show was partially orchestrated to have both white and black spoons until the end ! Just like any korean game show, and that's okay !
such a lame ending I cant get over, I even had nightmares at night I feel sorry for chef Edward they clearly stole his victory. or the judges was being insecure
the show is clearly rigged, each round had even numbers between white and black contestants
Actually I had a friend (white, blonde) move to South Korea. It was her dream to teach English there. She said they were incredibly racist to her, and were very anti-internationalism. That being said, it’s still so heartbreaking to hear how the audience was against Jung Ji-sun just because she married a foreigner? The comments and hate she’s getting are wild. I understand preserving culture (look how Central Europe is going downhill. It’s where I live), but there’s no need for such behavior.
I think everyone is in agreement that Edward Lee should’ve won, but Napoli Mafia was amazing. As was Triple Star (he wowed me from the beginning). So I can imagine, maybe citizenship had something to do with it. Maybe.
All this to say, I don’t think anything looked rigged. Of course we can never know, but I can’t imagine that being rigged, it was very real. The voice-actor thing is quite the stretch. If anything, blame the editing, which I thought was good regardless.
It’s my own dream to go to South Korea, just on vacation, as I love the culture, food, and especially the movies and TVs. I have many South Korean friends, and it seems like a beautiful and exciting place!
This show was biased af
The infinite challenge showed who had enough versatility and creativity to be the winner.
I don't care how good you are at italian cuisine, if you don't get out of your comfort zone, I don't think you deserve to win. He is not creating anything or reinventing anything. If you are just using italian element, does that dish really should be called "your name"? *rolleyes*
I was wondering too ... why is he repeatedly allowed to create his favourite western dishes while others are eliminated for relying too much on their style ?
The judges do not seem to apply their criteria in that way ....
Should have known as he's obviously the show's villain due to his disrespectful arrogance, keeping him around till the end would maintain dramatic interest of course ....
Edward lee's kentucky fried tofu is enough to win the competition
The black and white always have an even numbers in every rounds 🤦♂️
아니 그래도 에드워드 리가 1위하는 걸 원하는 사람이 많은 건 알겠는데, 나폴리 맛피아가 겪어온 역경들은 아무도 말을 안 하네 ㅋㅋ 비호감 짓을 한 건 사실이지만, 그래도 착한 사람인데 너무한거 아니냐.
1라운드 에서는 지가 젤 잘하는 파스타 했는데 꽃넣었다고 보류 당하고, 2라운드에서는 악명높은 홍어 당첨되고, 3라운드에선 리조또 만들었다가 그놈의 알단테 때문에 패배, 4라운드에선 가격 전략 억까 때문에 3위가 되는 등 수난을 겪었는데, 패자부활전에선 전략을 잘 짜서 밤 티라미수로 생존하고, 4라운드도 한국말 잘 못하는 에드워드리를 보필해 자신의 활약을 과시해 생존, 5라운드는 진짜로 두 심사위원들에게 정당한 평가를 받고 올라가서 자신의 이름을 건 요리로 가장 잘하는 파스타를 내서 정정당당하게 이겼는데 뭐가 문제임?
니들이 그렇게 원하는 에드워드 리가 마지막까지 자신이 원하는 실험적인 퓨전 요리를 내놓았는데 살면서 첨 해본 요리랑 평생 요리해본 요리랑 비교가 된다고 생각함? 아무리 고수라도 첨해본 요리는 연습을 좀 했더라도 힘든게 사실임. 심지어 스테이크 전문인데 디저트를 고수급으로 잘 할 수는 없잖음. 에드워드리는 자신의 정체성을 찾는 여정을 하기 위해 온거고 그 목적을 이루고 흑수저 맛피아는 우승했으니 훈훈하게 끝났다고 봄. 그렇게 쇼를 조작하지 말라면서 에드워드 리가 못 이겼다고 재미없다고 하는 놈들이 젤 모순적임. 그래도 오락을 위한 프로그램인데 좀 흥미진진하게 만들기 위해 밸런스 좀 맞춰놓으면 조작이라고 지랄, 아예 쌩으로 하면 결과가 뻔해서 재미없다고 지랄. 존나 이중적임 ㅋㅋ
Exactly!
I enjoyed the whole show and the winner of the show went through so many eliminations before reaching the finale.
I'm not really care wether it scripted or not.
bro, how can the person who one just be cooking only one type of food all day every day and it's just one dish for the finals
Final cooking only from 1 dish? Bullcrap… those two final contestants should done 3 course meals 😒😒😒
LOL at 3:50 Is it possible Netflix saved some money by hiring voice dubbers from the old 1970's karate movies....? 🤣 That dubbing was positively painful to listen to, reduced the enjoyment of the show IMO.
Ultimately it's was a cool show, but there was definitely some rigging going on. Even with completely equal talent it's pretty unlikely there would have been exactly the same number of white and black chefs remaining at the end of every challenge.
I mean of course some stuff might have been staged or scripted, but the cooking was solid in the end, loved every candidate ❤😊
how is it the veterans and more experienced chefs like Chef Edward Lee had under go such brutal challenge when they proved a lot of things, Napoli Mafia should join the tofu challenge or all of them
because napoli won the first challenge. they explained it in the show that if you win the first challenge you get to go to the finals.
I mean of course they'd have to rig the show a little bit to make it more equal on both black spoins and white spoons sides. Why would they make a show where there are only white spoons who already have a name for themselves-. You could argue they could have more black spoons but then it would also be less exciting since its a bunch of people we have to keep referring to as "triple star" or "cooking maniac" etc. etc.
I do have a question. In the first episode did they not split the 80 black spoons into 2 groups of 40? Did they only show one of the groups and just not aired tbe second one? Or was it just clipped into one episode (which im assuming is the case but the editing made it seem like only one group was allowed through)
Just watched the whole thing. It was brilliant. Well organized. Judging super fair..very fair overall compared to USA crap.shows
The way I did not recognize seonkyoung longest is CRAZY. I subscribed her YT for a long time but I hated her in the show lol
Bruh its a Korean survival show ofcourse it's scripted
Do you think usa or europe survival shows are not scripted 😂😂
To some degree, survival shows are scripted. For this show, they definitely tried too hard to keep the balance of black and white team. That was painfully obvious.
Not really. Most Korean shows are not scripted compared to American or British shows. Edward Lee said that most of it was authentic.
@@wengo44 When asked if this was intentional, producer Kim Hak-min said, “It was decided that 22 people would advance to the third round. Super Pass was a planned device. Personally, the disappointing moment was when it became 11 to 11. Deep down, I hoped it would be different. I thought that was more realistic. The top 8 also became 4 black and 4 white, but this also had nothing to do with the production team's intentions. Rather, I felt personally disappointed,” he explained.
@@풀영상-s7x so basically saying that even number of black and white team was unintentional? that is hard to believe. that is nearly impossible. anyway, i am more upset about that winner guy being a total knob head at the end of the last episode. dissing edward lee saying "i will send you home packing" when edward has been so polite and gentle until the end.
They need to keep Chef Ed Lee to final.
Napoli would've never won the endless cooking round
Seonkyung was insufferable the entire series. The two judge format was okay but they deferred Anh Sung Jae in literally every 1:1 so it didnt really feel fair sometimes
I think people keep forgetting that the difference between black and white chefs isn't skill diff, but rather, experience and fame diff.
This is great but the finale was underwhelming!!!
Hell's kitchen is more fun because the winner was always deserving
I don’t like the final competition. It felt so rushed and incoherent. Should the final competition set for a three course meal with entree, main and dessert like MasterChef? So the judges can have a more holistic consideration with who’s the best winner? But I guess they try not to be rhetorical same with MasterChef …
they want the black spoon to be the winner, to create drama lol EL should be the winner
Unfair competition may result fair outcome for the chefs. They are all great chefs under an unfair competition, so, I will try my best to visit as many of their restaurants as possible 😅
It's a cooking show... I doubt they'd go to great lengths to conspire in there but I'm sure that, like any other reality TV show, they probably pulled some strings here and there to keep things going in the direction the producers felt would be most interesting.
Is it fair? Probably not. I honestly doubt the guy who won is really the best chef among the 100's we saw compete. But I don't think anyone who participates in that kind of show really expects that it's going to be perfectly fair like a sanctioned athletic competition would be. It's mostly a promotional tool for the participants.
I think they could've just avoided some of the controversy by being more transparent. For instance when the judges brought back participants, they could very well just have stated plainly that they were looking only at black spoons. Even if that had been only a personal choice of the judges. I would've seen nothing wrong with them saying they would consider only black spoon given that they want to give them more exposure, or that they're being less forgiving with the white spoons in early rounds given their experience.
The final should have been a 3 course meal
you might say whatever you want, however, if the main judges decided for black and white and 2 blacks, they were right. and i think when you put people with limited skilled together and join on one thing as one, they can be just as good as white spoons. And they had triple star who worked for 3 star michelin restaurant so he knew what he was doing.
i think this comes with no brainer, that they were rightfully selected as they were geniunely good team. 7:20
Don't throw rocks at others when you too live in a glass house.
Your channel is full of negative and dissing contents of others, including catfishy thumbnails.
This video came into the algo and hope people reading this comment will see how jealous or snarky you are towards the whole industry, when you are literally living off of the "issues" and "problems" of it.
6:20 im cryinggg that is so meannn
This youtuber is really trying to make the 8 minutes mark lmao
I enjoyed it, although i dont agree that they include non food related judges in the meat & seafood challenge
100% somewhat staged. It’s normal for a ‘show’ especially they know it’s going to be a hit
Chef Choi should’ve won