Was literally just thinking to myself as I was debating getting a new laptop: "I wish there was a comparison of modern Thinkpad models for buyers who haven't looked at Thinkpads in over a decade."
After using a thinkpad t450 as my go to laptop for the past 7 years. A thinkpad x1 gen is my going to be my next replacement. I just love the durability and rugged like design with all features still intact not stripped like other laptops.
After 25 years on Windows, I switched to Mac (equipped with Apple Silicone M2 processors) and i will NEVER went back to Windows PC computers. Everything about Apple is a thousand times more stable, ergonomic, efficient, secure, all their screens are incredibly beautiful, these computers are luxury items are, the difference with PCs is indescribable, they clearly dominate for me in all aspects, except of the video game. I had already had an idea of it when I acquired an iPhone, that's when everything was revealed to me.
I'm a univerity student, I also run my own buisness; for me, the X1 Carbon is the one. It's light, performs brilliantly, durable, able to handle my work and my studies without breaking a sweat. Add in that, in my country, Lenovo will come to your home or work the next day to repair if you need, for three years. Before this, I had the X1 Nano, which was good, but the Carbon is far better in terms of durability and performance. If you can get a good deal on a X1 Nano Gen 1 or 2 and super endurance isn't needed, they are brilliant computers if you don't need the extra power though.
I am using thinkpad T480 for studying and you know this serves me better than many other laptops which has more specifications. I am using Autocad, Matlab and also playing war thunder but it works perfectly..
My favorite is Thinkpad T30 its better than t20 because first one in the t series that supports 2gb of ram and have wifi(unlike t20) so you can put a card in it that supports B/G/N and call networking a day Gentoo linux(compiled on a resource server) with optimizations to kernel and DWM makes it a beast. I program on it daily its a really cool machine. It took me years to realize whats my favorite thinkpad, when i was unexperienced i wanted not the machine that feels good to use, but the machine thats fast, and i dont need "fast" while streaming games over lan or using my server for compiling
In my loooong career I had Dell latitude, HP Elite book and of course Thinkpad... Thinkpad is by far my best laptops. Indestructible (it's always replaced before failing and I often use reformed Thinkpad (Damn Right now, I repurposed a good old L540 for a very specific application and I think it will still be online in five years...) Whether it's L, T, X series, I was never disappointed. Right now, my buddy is sturdy L-15 that does great in a very hostile environment : a Warehouse. I carry it, put it in greasy, dusty places. Still working like a charm. And well... Thinkpad Keyboard is still top notch even with the new ones. But please, boss if you reed this, I'd fancy a X-13 (even a gen 1!) for my poor back :3
A major problem this review omitted was addressing the weak hinges on their computers that break with time. If you spend $2500.00 on the X1 carbon and a hinge breaks Lenovo will not honor the repair, even though it is a design issue which they openly acknowledge they are aware of. So, basically you wind up owning a very expensive paper weight. The buyer needs to be aware of this flaw since it can be a very expensive mistake buying their products.
I think it's the opposite. Because it's so durable and well built, people assume everything is metal and handle it as if it cannot break. The only laptop's hinges I've ever seen that don't break with time on its own and still work are from Thinkpad. Don't f with it and it should last longer than your spine.
I have used Thinkpad W series for over 9 years and never faced an issue. It sustained two drops. One with the USB plugged in and bending thrle USB ports aswell. Not sure about carbon but for other ones i can assure thinkpad wont fail
I’m currently in the market for a laptop bc my old cheap HP laptop hinge broke and it’s not worth fixing. I was shopping for thinkpads bc I heard they were rugged and durable, is this true? I don’t abuse my stuff, I just want one well built and sturdy
Definitely the best you can’t find anywhere else. I have a Thinkpad X13 Gen 1 AMD which I got for $1400. Other laptops of the same price can’t come close because you only get mid range or low end budget models that aren’t the same characteristics from brands like Acer. Too bad the current gen models aren’t cheap
Honest question: which ThinkPad model/series that is durable and last for a long time without breaking its hinges and having its screw mounts cracked after a couple of years of careful usage. I am looking for a laptop with such durable build quality, I have a Lenovo laptop, aside from its broken hinges and open gaps on its case, it functions normally hardware and software-wise. Its replacement bottom case is expensive. Please share your opinion here, I'm thinking to own either a ThinkPad or a Dell Precision laptop. I prefer a good Build quality
I own a T480 since 2019, use it daily from morning to evening. It runs almost constantly and it still works as well as day 1. I don't carry it around though.
From my experiences (dealing with L-15 (gen1&2), X-13(Gen1 and2), L580,L590 i can assure you that hinges are rock solid. But do yourself a favor : pay attention to the screen when you configure your Thinkpad : by default on budget series (L serie for example) is 250 nits : sufficient to work indoors but outdoors it can be troublesome (though mat screen helps a lot). Standards philips screws on all model (annoying plastic clips though, but heh... ) Look for sales on T/P series. In EU some days ago there was an insane sale on P14s with Ryzen Pro series.
I have a refurbished t470 model with thunderbolt 3 port even though it is 6 years old it is still pretty future proof due to the thunderbolt 3 connectivity options
I'm trying to find a replacement for my t480. I have 3, I've been cannibalizing over the past 10 years. I love the t480, easily servicable, dual batteries... so many ports... I guess the days are over finding refurbished thinkpads under $300, transferring $250 worth of hardware and ending up with what would have been a new 1500 machine... I was wondering what the T series fanbase would recommend if I started down the path of a new laptop I can service and upgrade...? The most important aspect to me is the battery life. My t480 runs 14-16 hours It blows my mind the cost of these new machines. I dont need 4k, touchscreen, 120+hz refresh rate...just a laptop that processes queries fast for long periods! Anyone can build backup t480s for less than $600 with 64 gb ram, 2tb ssd, specs that run close to 2k because we all need the newest processor, dont we?...who cares if its an i5 7th gen (oh wait, gotta upgrade from 7th gen for those win10 security updates..)
@@Terafied thanks for the suggestion. After being stuck between the t14, t16, ended up ordering a refurb t480. 1tb ssd nvme, 32gb ram, i7, win 11 pro for $700.
Well, the "new" one has overheating issues (CPU is running hot), probably just need to update the CPU fan and re-do the thermal paste, but that will void the warranty on the refurb. So I'll be replacing the t480 and looking for something new instead.
Thinkpad was renowned for its input devices (keyboard/keypad). But, beware, their recent supplier quality and software drivers have declined a lot. Just be prepared for trips to service center ...
I have now confirmed through every possible level that #Thinkpad @Lenovo Lenovo with usb-c port charging not working is automatically a CID and there is no way to repeal that decision. Our unit had only faulty solder. They don't respect warranty.
Just after the turn of the century, I went to Best Buy, looking for a Wintel conputer. (I had a small collection of Mac laptops of the PowerBook and MacBook Pro persuasion.) I looked at the array of pastel, shiny-Aluminum computers, then my eye fell on a matte black-finish Lenovo ThinkPad. I had been hearing/reading about in computer magazines for years, and this SL410 looked unimpressive. It was on sale, so I chose "the one with the great keyboard." I still use it today, from time to time, even though a Core2 Duo is a bit behind the times. My other ThinkPad, on which I am typing this, is a T530, which has outlasted the Apple Mac laptops, which need major, fiddly repairs with a box of special tools. Why these ThinkPads? Easy, I want/need to play/record CDs and DVDs, which "modern portable computers" can't do without a spider's web/daisy chain of cables.
Thanks for the review! Between the Extreme and Carbon, which one would you go for if I needs lots of numbers computing power? (Finance professional here). Thanks
Be careful with the newer Lenovo Thinkpads and Yoga's. They are innovative, but they break quickly or have build in flaws which never get fixed. You may end up with a flickering screen, or a disfunctional touchpad and Lenovo might simply declare it a 'feature'. Thinkpads are not what they have been in the past. The keyboards are degrading and the batteries capacity is quite limited.
Your battery life is lower on the newer models? Newer laptops should have astoundingly better battery. My P15 Gen 2 with FHD gets up to about 13 hours on a very light load just like my T15 Gen 2. My P17 Gen 2 gets around half of that but has a 4k screen. I get the P and T series which are the most robust and easy to service. There are so many that it's best to review different models thoroughly to be sure you're getting what's ideal to you. I remember back when laptops a decade or more ago got like one hour unplugged if you were lucky and it was designed for performance. I've had tons of laptops from a variety of brands cheap and expensive and haven't had them breaking all over the place. People should be sure they care for their laptops and secure them properly in a bag. Not having drinks around them when open isn't a bad idea either. Good luck.
I work in IT for a large company, and I agree the TouchPad is disappointing half the time. The screen rarely has those issues, but there is a bad batch once in a while. Just make sure you get a good 2 year warranty when buying Lenovo ThinkPads.
We have about 4000 thinkpads deployed (mostly L580,590, L15-Gen1 and 2, X13 (gen1 and 2), so far I'm impressed. Very sturdy (and believe me our users are not kind with their laptops. TBH, New lineup keyboards are not as good as previous one, but still --my taste-- the best keyboards when compared to HP EliteBOOK and Dell. Though in pro laptops world Keyboard are all excellent.
I am currently running an old t440p that I had from my college days. It is begging to show its age and am considering a suitable replacement. I've been impressed with the Lenovo and would like to stay with them. Any suggestions? I would like it to fill the same niche as the older t440p. Does anyone know how good those p340 desktops are?
P-340 are sturdy : I have a P-340 working 24/24 7/7 to drive a specific, vital application in a very dusty environment with careless people. After one year it's still in perfect condition. Good desktop unit for real.
I use a thinkpad at school without a trackpoint but idk what that computer is called, and without those two red and black buttons and instead its just 2 lines in the bottom of the move cursor thing and other features
Confused between a refurbished Thinkpad x1 yoga (gen6 2021) i71165g/16gb and a Dell latitude 7420 (2021) i71185g/16gb (Dell is more expensive by ~100$)
I jus t ordered the T14s Gen 3 fully load as my on the go laptop for super cheap wow. I'm tired of carrying my M1 Max 16" out of the house. I was stuck between this, the X1 Carbon 10th Gen and X1 Yoga Gen 6. To be 100% honest I still am. I'm hoping to love the T14s when it comes in a few weeks. I feel the T14s is basically a X1 minus the upward firing speakers. Update: After waiting two weeks of delayed shipping for a in stock ThinkPad, I am retuning the T14s. It's definitely a slim ultrabook. The i7 eco chip is snappy but the battery life isn't that great and the trackpad sounds like the trackpad on a x201. It's 2021 they need to upgrade the trackpads deep clicking but the texture of the surface is very smooth and feels great. Also, I found it weird that my screen language randomly changes to Russian on its own and I had to figure out how to change it back. I ended up buying a 14 M1 Pro 10 core on sale to carry around and downloaded Parallels to run windows 11.
Actually good you gave it back, i have the p14s gen 1 AMD and jesus soo many issues, wonky touchpad after sleep/suspend, sometimes touchpad does not outright work on certain boots, including in the bios, i need a proper power down cycle for it to work Even a touchpad replacement did not do it Also had to get the keyboard replacement cause some of the key stopped working And usb ports were a bit wonky where the ports were having connection problems with my wired headset on p14s but worked fine on dell vostro, again tried replacement but not much difference Now the charging port and the sleep indicator led on the logo stopped working, and getting a motherboard replacement this week And all that within a span of 10 months of using the device
Unfortunately the latest ThinkPad models lack the superior keyboards and fantastic battery life found on models from several years ago. I wish Lenovo would offer at least one laptop with the older style keyboard and the dual battery setup.
You don't need the spare battery thing, just use a usb charger. The old keyboards are also very clunky and increasingly a niche interest. The clicklit (whatever that means) keyboards are still good and better than market.
My lapyop just says Yoga, has a physical button with the windows logo right in the middle of the frame under the screen and the stylus comes from the right buttom corner right beside the power button, can anyne tell what model it is?
Please guide a 15.6 or 16 inch ThinkPad laptop with num.pad. Professional quality Graphics card is not important for me because I need it for online trading, Excel sheets and watching UA-cam videos. RAM size required is 32GB. I want a mobile workstation preferably of Lenovo or HP. Keyboard should have backlight for each key separately. Caps lock & num. Lock should have on / off indicator light.
I use a T15 Gen 2 for the reasons you described. Easy to carry around, but has a numpad, micro sd card slot, ethernet port, and the 1.8mm keyboard travel with the backlight. If you use Ebay you can find one cheap for around $700 certified refurbished. The P series is the mobile workstation. I have a T-15 gen 2 and T17 gen 2 with a graphics card and they're great. Got them like new for $1229 and $1499 respectively.
@@akin242002 I had an HP ZBook X2. It was a great workstation as well for artwork. They don't make that series anymore though. The Lenovo P series is the workstation series for Lenovo. I have a P17 Gen 2 and it's a beast with a RTX A-series graphics card. People use them a lot for heavy rendering and processing work. I have a P15 Gen 2 as well for more on the go use with a 1080P high nit screen and it has around 14 hour battery life. That's the series to pick if you want heavy duty work done. The T series is thinner and more portable and also good.
Which one? I have L480 as my working laptop and I am not so thrilled with the build quality and its keyboard. What is nice that it has smartcard reader. Maybe newer are better built.
@@Mladenac I have an T580 currently and I wasn’t impressed with the keyboard as well. I ordered a new CTO E15 Gen 4 straight from Lenovo and it should arrive later this week. I’ll try and update you after it get it setup.
@@ParoxyDM I got IBM R40, Lenovo T410, Lenovo L480 and X1 Gen 7. Comparing to L480 keyboard on E14 Gen 2 is flawless. As I wrote I find L480 a bit to stiff. I am pretty satisfied with mine on X1.
Is there still a T series Lenovo Thinkpad a powerful laptop (Intel i 5), with a good memory and normal SSD in 2024 and beyond? Comparatively with an L series intel i 7 4GB RAM, 120SSD with a little bad battery time, it is not a good proposal at the present time even if intel i 7 and are we going towards 2025? I hope your comment will resonate and give a good wink, I would like to save on eggs and on cooking oil and buy a powerful PC that is fast, therefore I found a page where I can go through touches and take out the correct description for the desired product which still is good.
I have a question that obsesses me: why buy a thinkpad if all the tests of any technician in the world show that today's Apple computers (Macbook Air or Pro, iMac 2021, etc., all equipped with of the M1 or M2 chip), impressively beat any high-end PC in all aspects, level of battery life, screen definition (always much higher) and the synthesis of colors, the calculation speed (even with a simple macbook air M1), the little heating of the computer, the weight, the sound quality...? For very heavy and multi-tasking professional video editing, here again the Macbook Pro 14 or 16 and more clearly the Mac Studio and Mac Pro are clearly superior. In addition, Macbooks are a thousand times more beautiful, ergonomic, etc. For gamers, I can understand. But for everyone else? One could give as a reason the very high price for the Mac computers but Thinkpads which can almost compete with Macs are often very expensive too.
lots of reason, upgradebility, stupid ssd soldered, hard or even imposible to self repair, lack if port, most importanly dont want to help company that don't care or contribute to the people, every things has price, fuck that shit
@@itaamelia6715 Buy the Mac from the start with the level you need (memory, processor, number of ports, etc.), you won't need to replace anything afterwards. As for the question of “repair”, Macs are almost indestructible, the problem arises very rarely. The price is higher but you then no longer spend the years that follow: with Windows, you are stuck with software to buy, additional memory to install and pay for, repairs to do, often requiring you to have to reformat and reinstall ). With Apple, the next versions of the operating system will be completely free for many years (!), which is not at all the case with Windows which is also the victim of numerous bugs (I have been on Windows for almost 25 years, I know what I'm talking about!). Windows is also the target of many viruses, therefore requiring the purchase of security software and the constant installation and purchase of applications from 36,000 companies without end. In a new generation Mac, all the necessary applications are already inside (nothing to pay for or install) and they are ultra-efficient, I witness it every day. Macs, especially since the Apple Silicone revolution of 2020 finally freed from Intel (so: ALL M1 or M2 Macs, that is to say these computers whose everything inside has been created and designed exclusively by Apple: memory , processor, sound, etc.) heat up PRACTICALLY NOT AT ALL: this is also the main and most essential revolution, which explains why a simple ultra-flat Mac Book Air without ANY FAN will heat up very little and most of the time not at all, because Apple chips hardly heat up: Windows laptops, on the contrary, require immense ventilation AND CAUSE A LOT OF NOISE, and bring in dust. For the rest, EVERYTHING at Apple is superior: screen, image definition (1 billion colors), quality of materials, construction and design of the perfectly integrated processor and memory, keyboard feel, battery life, charging with Magsafe ( so practical!), Touch ID for all uses and absolutely flawless, set of high-end software already included, weight of the computer and its duration over time, incomparable design (the bad aesthetic taste of so many PCs!), ergonomics, the perfect transparency of the Apple ecosystem (for example from the iPhone to the computer), the phenomenal loading speed of the operating system, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
@danielhalachev4714 I don't know what generation of iPhone your iPhone was, but the scenario you describe has not existed since at least iPhone 10 (we are now at iPhone 15). For Macs, if your computer was before 2020 (i.e. 2019 and earlier) this may be the reason, because since 2020, i.e. since Apple decided to design and produce its processors, memory, card itself -mother, etc., so by FINALLY getting rid of its dependence on Intel and producing real bombs of incomparable performance at all levels, the communication between Apple devices is phenomenally transparent.
@danielhalachev4714 If you own the Mac from the start with the level you need (memory, processor, number of ports, etc.), you won't have to replace anything later. As for the question of “repair”, Macs being almost indestructible, the problem arises very rarely. The price is higher but then you don't spend the next few years: with Windows, you find yourself stuck with software to buy, additional memory to install and pay for, repairs to do, often requiring you to reformat and reinstall). With Apple, the next versions of the operating system will be completely free for many years (!), which is not at all the case with Windows which is also the victim of numerous bugs (I have been using Windows for almost 25 years , I you know what I'm talking about!). Windows is also the target of many viruses, therefore requiring the purchase of security software and the constant installation and purchase of applications from 36,000 endless companies. In a new generation Mac, all the necessary applications are already inside (nothing to pay for or install) and they are ultra efficient, I witness it every day. Macs, especially since the Apple Silicone revolution of 2020 finally freed from Intel (so: ALL M1 or M2 Macs, that is to say these computers whose everything inside has been created and designed exclusively by Apple: memory, processor, sound, etc.) heat up PRACTICALLY NOT AT ALL: this is also the main and most essential revolution, which explains why a simple ultra-flat Mac Book Air without ANY FAN will only heat very little and most of the time. time not at all, because Apple chips practically do not heat up: Windows laptops, on the contrary, require immense ventilation AND CAUSE A LOT OF NOISE, and bring dust. For the rest, EVERYTHING at Apple is superior: screen, image definition (1 billion colors), quality of materials, construction and design of the perfectly integrated processor and memory, keyboard feel, battery life, charging with Magsafe (so practical!), Touch ID for all uses and absolutely impeccable, set of high-end software already included, weight of the computer and its duration over time, incomparable design (the bad aesthetic taste of so many PCs !), ergonomics, perfect transparency of the Apple ecosystem (for example from iPhone to computer), the phenomenal loading speed of the operating system, etc.
Hello i recently bought the "Lenovo thinkpad x1 i5 7th generation" but i wonder what year it was released ? Please help me (ps: i think it's "yoga x1")
Was literally just thinking to myself as I was debating getting a new laptop: "I wish there was a comparison of modern Thinkpad models for buyers who haven't looked at Thinkpads in over a decade."
I've been searching for this type of video for a week now. Glad I came across this one!
Same position
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Look at me watching and enjoying these kinds of videos on a Lenovo Thinkpad T420 😭
Heyy is it suitable for coding?
The E, L & T-Series are completely missing. As such the video is pretty incomplete and not very useful.
After using a thinkpad t450 as my go to laptop for the past 7 years. A thinkpad x1 gen is my going to be my next replacement. I just love the durability and rugged like design with all features still intact not stripped like other laptops.
After 25 years on Windows, I switched to Mac (equipped with Apple Silicone M2 processors) and i will NEVER went back to Windows PC computers. Everything about Apple is a thousand times more stable, ergonomic, efficient, secure, all their screens are incredibly beautiful, these computers are luxury items are, the difference with PCs is indescribable, they clearly dominate for me in all aspects, except of the video game. I had already had an idea of it when I acquired an iPhone, that's when everything was revealed to me.
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@@lionelmessithegoatLM10 poor person confirmed
@@ArthropodSpidey so...... you buy Apple to just show off, not for productivity or anything, got it.
I'm a univerity student, I also run my own buisness; for me, the X1 Carbon is the one. It's light, performs brilliantly, durable, able to handle my work and my studies without breaking a sweat. Add in that, in my country, Lenovo will come to your home or work the next day to repair if you need, for three years. Before this, I had the X1 Nano, which was good, but the Carbon is far better in terms of durability and performance. If you can get a good deal on a X1 Nano Gen 1 or 2 and super endurance isn't needed, they are brilliant computers if you don't need the extra power though.
what country is that/
what is the battery like throughout a normal day of use at uni?
What kind of business?
I am using thinkpad T480 for studying and you know this serves me better than many other laptops which has more specifications.
I am using Autocad, Matlab and also playing war thunder but it works perfectly..
How about T490? i5 8thgen??
How about the battery?
Hi can you use it for thesis work, data analysis etc?
One small thing. Trackpoints are also build into some Dell XPS Laptops. Generally I dont like them really anyways but thought I'd mention it
in all HP EliteBOOK as well ;) When you get used to it, you can't do without it.
My favorite is Thinkpad T30
its better than t20 because first one in the t series that supports 2gb of ram and have wifi(unlike t20) so you can put a card in it that supports B/G/N and call networking a day
Gentoo linux(compiled on a resource server) with optimizations to kernel and DWM makes it a beast.
I program on it daily its a really cool machine.
It took me years to realize whats my favorite thinkpad, when i was unexperienced i wanted not the machine that feels good to use, but the machine thats fast, and i dont need "fast" while streaming games over lan or using my server for compiling
In my loooong career I had Dell latitude, HP Elite book and of course Thinkpad... Thinkpad is by far my best laptops. Indestructible (it's always replaced before failing and I often use reformed Thinkpad (Damn Right now, I repurposed a good old L540 for a very specific application and I think it will still be online in five years...) Whether it's L, T, X series, I was never disappointed. Right now, my buddy is sturdy L-15 that does great in a very hostile environment : a Warehouse. I carry it, put it in greasy, dusty places. Still working like a charm. And well... Thinkpad Keyboard is still top notch even with the new ones.
But please, boss if you reed this, I'd fancy a X-13 (even a gen 1!) for my poor back :3
A major problem this review omitted was addressing the weak hinges on their computers that break with time. If you spend $2500.00 on the X1 carbon and a hinge breaks Lenovo will not honor the repair, even though it is a design issue which they openly acknowledge they are aware of. So, basically you wind up owning a very expensive paper weight. The buyer needs to be aware of this flaw since it can be a very expensive mistake buying their products.
I think it's the opposite. Because it's so durable and well built, people assume everything is metal and handle it as if it cannot break. The only laptop's hinges I've ever seen that don't break with time on its own and still work are from Thinkpad. Don't f with it and it should last longer than your spine.
I wouldn't want to spend $2500 on a laptop end up with hinge designed problem which Lenovo is aware. $2500 can get me a better laptop.
I have used Thinkpad W series for over 9 years and never faced an issue. It sustained two drops. One with the USB plugged in and bending thrle USB ports aswell.
Not sure about carbon but for other ones i can assure thinkpad wont fail
I’m currently in the market for a laptop bc my old cheap HP laptop hinge broke and it’s not worth fixing. I was shopping for thinkpads bc I heard they were rugged and durable, is this true? I don’t abuse my stuff, I just want one well built and sturdy
@@jon3296 dont hesitate just buy it.
I bought an X1 Carbon 4th Gen to replace the T420s. This might improve the battery + specs for heavy UX design work.
Did the laptop deliver as expected?
How's been the experience?
Definitely the best you can’t find anywhere else. I have a Thinkpad X13 Gen 1 AMD which I got for $1400. Other laptops of the same price can’t come close because you only get mid range or low end budget models that aren’t the same characteristics from brands like Acer. Too bad the current gen models aren’t cheap
There are other manufacturers that still have track points. Not just Lenovo my 2022 Dell latitude has one
Honest question: which ThinkPad model/series that is durable and last for a long time without breaking its hinges and having its screw mounts cracked after a couple of years of careful usage. I am looking for a laptop with such durable build quality, I have a Lenovo laptop, aside from its broken hinges and open gaps on its case, it functions normally hardware and software-wise. Its replacement bottom case is expensive. Please share your opinion here, I'm thinking to own either a ThinkPad or a Dell Precision laptop. I prefer a good Build quality
L470
You can probably repair the hinges. Not sure what you did to break them...
I own a T480 since 2019, use it daily from morning to evening. It runs almost constantly and it still works as well as day 1. I don't carry it around though.
From my experiences (dealing with L-15 (gen1&2), X-13(Gen1 and2), L580,L590 i can assure you that hinges are rock solid. But do yourself a favor : pay attention to the screen when you configure your Thinkpad : by default on budget series (L serie for example) is 250 nits : sufficient to work indoors but outdoors it can be troublesome (though mat screen helps a lot).
Standards philips screws on all model (annoying plastic clips though, but heh... )
Look for sales on T/P series. In EU some days ago there was an insane sale on P14s with Ryzen Pro series.
P14s wins hands down for the light weight portability and stick packs a punch over the X1
I have a refurbished t470 model with thunderbolt 3 port even though it is 6 years old it is still pretty future proof due to the thunderbolt 3 connectivity options
are there any concerns that such new models as xtreme & x carbon haven't that fantastic keyboard as T and P models have?
They haven't sold those keyboards for like 8 years. The new one is fine. Its not like the Apple Butterfly keyboard which was a total disaster.
I'm trying to find a replacement for my t480. I have 3, I've been cannibalizing over the past 10 years. I love the t480, easily servicable, dual batteries... so many ports...
I guess the days are over finding refurbished thinkpads under $300, transferring $250 worth of hardware and ending up with what would have been a new 1500 machine...
I was wondering what the T series fanbase would recommend if I started down the path of a new laptop I can service and upgrade...?
The most important aspect to me is the battery life. My t480 runs 14-16 hours
It blows my mind the cost of these new machines. I dont need 4k, touchscreen, 120+hz refresh rate...just a laptop that processes queries fast for long periods! Anyone can build backup t480s for less than $600 with 64 gb ram, 2tb ssd, specs that run close to 2k because we all need the newest processor, dont we?...who cares if its an i5 7th gen (oh wait, gotta upgrade from 7th gen for those win10 security updates..)
How about the L14 G4?
@@Terafied thanks for the suggestion. After being stuck between the t14, t16, ended up ordering a refurb t480. 1tb ssd nvme, 32gb ram, i7, win 11 pro for $700.
Well, the "new" one has overheating issues (CPU is running hot), probably just need to update the CPU fan and re-do the thermal paste, but that will void the warranty on the refurb. So I'll be replacing the t480 and looking for something new instead.
Thinkpad was renowned for its input devices (keyboard/keypad). But, beware, their recent supplier quality and software drivers have declined a lot. Just be prepared for trips to service center ...
@@MartinJones123 highly agree, suddenly keyboard software, battery, ssd got problems..not recommend
Do not concur. Have had not a single quality issue on probably 10 thinkpads over more than 10 years. I suspect user error/ cluelessness.
@@ironmantooltime Exactly.
I have now confirmed through every possible level that #Thinkpad @Lenovo Lenovo with usb-c port charging not working is automatically a CID and there is no way to repeal that decision. Our unit had only faulty solder. They don't respect warranty.
Just after the turn of the century, I went to Best Buy, looking for a Wintel conputer. (I had a small collection of Mac laptops of the PowerBook and MacBook Pro persuasion.) I looked at the array of pastel, shiny-Aluminum computers, then my eye fell on a matte black-finish Lenovo ThinkPad. I had been hearing/reading about in computer magazines for years, and this SL410 looked unimpressive. It was on sale, so I chose "the one with the great keyboard." I still use it today, from time to time, even though a Core2 Duo is a bit behind the times. My other ThinkPad, on which I am typing this, is a T530, which has outlasted the Apple Mac laptops, which need major, fiddly repairs with a box of special tools. Why these ThinkPads? Easy, I want/need to play/record CDs and DVDs, which "modern portable computers" can't do without a spider's web/daisy chain of cables.
Thanks for the review! Between the Extreme and Carbon, which one would you go for if I needs lots of numbers computing power? (Finance professional here). Thanks
carbon
I have a ThinkPad T500 and a Thinkcenter Lenovo pc
Be careful with the newer Lenovo Thinkpads and Yoga's. They are innovative, but they break quickly or have build in flaws which never get fixed. You may end up with a flickering screen, or a disfunctional touchpad and Lenovo might simply declare it a 'feature'. Thinkpads are not what they have been in the past. The keyboards are degrading and the batteries capacity is quite limited.
Your battery life is lower on the newer models? Newer laptops should have astoundingly better battery. My P15 Gen 2 with FHD gets up to about 13 hours on a very light load just like my T15 Gen 2. My P17 Gen 2 gets around half of that but has a 4k screen. I get the P and T series which are the most robust and easy to service. There are so many that it's best to review different models thoroughly to be sure you're getting what's ideal to you. I remember back when laptops a decade or more ago got like one hour unplugged if you were lucky and it was designed for performance.
I've had tons of laptops from a variety of brands cheap and expensive and haven't had them breaking all over the place. People should be sure they care for their laptops and secure them properly in a bag. Not having drinks around them when open isn't a bad idea either.
Good luck.
I work in IT for a large company, and I agree the TouchPad is disappointing half the time. The screen rarely has those issues, but there is a bad batch once in a while. Just make sure you get a good 2 year warranty when buying Lenovo ThinkPads.
We have about 4000 thinkpads deployed (mostly L580,590, L15-Gen1 and 2, X13 (gen1 and 2), so far I'm impressed. Very sturdy (and believe me our users are not kind with their laptops. TBH, New lineup keyboards are not as good as previous one, but still --my taste-- the best keyboards when compared to HP EliteBOOK and Dell. Though in pro laptops world Keyboard are all excellent.
I am currently running an old t440p that I had from my college days. It is begging to show its age and am considering a suitable replacement. I've been impressed with the Lenovo and would like to stay with them. Any suggestions? I would like it to fill the same niche as the older t440p. Does anyone know how good those p340 desktops are?
P-340 are sturdy : I have a P-340 working 24/24 7/7 to drive a specific, vital application in a very dusty environment with careless people. After one year it's still in perfect condition. Good desktop unit for real.
@@david-6110 thank you for your reply!
ThinkPad T460 represent! Not sure which I would go for. I know I want another ThinkPad with better camera and hdmi.
X1 Carbon is amazing 👏 for C++, C, and Go programers.
In X1 series: carbon, nano yoga: which one to buy?
@@anilauece Carbon because it usually has more ports. CPU is usually the same among the 3.
What about the p series??
Are those just over kill
No mention of the t14 series?
you should have added prices
X1 Carbon is king of ring right now in Pakistan for reliability and durability fast paced laptops
It’s the ThinkPad x280 due to its portability and sturdy build that can withstand daily multitasking.
I use a thinkpad at school without a trackpoint but idk what that computer is called, and without those two red and black buttons and instead its just 2 lines in the bottom of the move cursor thing and other features
Is the P14s the exact same as T14 if both are same gen and AMD?
And the E series?
Recently got the yoga 370, wonderful machine & Keyboard is Great. Moving from hp to Lenovo 💻
I want to use laptop for trading, did Thinkpad is suitable for that??
yes ，i like a ThinkPad E15 gen2 and X1 extreme
T430 still is my main workhorse....
other laptops do offer the trackpoint, like HP EliteBook
May we know which one of them are upgradable to Windows 11 & which are not?
Most of the recent version of the mention laptops do come with windows 11 but if they don't they should be upgradeable.
What thinkpad can i buy when i want something serviceable? I have a t430 and love the upgradebillity but the performance is a bit lacking now
i have the t14. had to replace the ssd because of DOA. looks like most things are replaceable. at least im comparison to most modern laptops
My X1 Extreme Gen 1 ram clip slot got problem after only 5 years. If I move the laptop, the screen will blank.
No side-by-side comparisons?
Write the prices next time bc it’s literally the most important thing
Lol the whole vid is an ad for only the X1 carbon model
I'm thinking about it, but the "unique" design really is a sad thing tho 😳
Confused between a refurbished
Thinkpad x1 yoga (gen6 2021) i71165g/16gb and a Dell latitude 7420 (2021) i71185g/16gb (Dell is more expensive by ~100$)
When I look for my next laptop I'll be searching for one without chiclet keys - like the Thinkpads used to have.
Still using a thinkpad x260 from 2015 in 2024
Which one is good for Virtualization?
x1 carbon is best
Is it good for montage and edditin videos@@ramazancicek1938
Just bought a thinkpad x280. Nice little ultra portable with an 8th Gen i5. Not bad for $170.
Quite the steal!
I need:
Light weight
Powerfull
Upgradeable
Is it X1 Extreme?
You never talked about the E series
If l was going to do video editing and gaming which one would be best
Old models.
The gen 12 intel laptops will be available in April.
When in April?
@@laurenz138 April 31, at 1:17:37 p.m. (Central)
@@slodoco I mean I'm NOT the CEO of Lenovo.
Ugh....Intel.
I jus t ordered the T14s Gen 3 fully load as my on the go laptop for super cheap wow. I'm tired of carrying my M1 Max 16" out of the house. I was stuck between this, the X1 Carbon 10th Gen and X1 Yoga Gen 6. To be 100% honest I still am. I'm hoping to love the T14s when it comes in a few weeks. I feel the T14s is basically a X1 minus the upward firing speakers.
Update: After waiting two weeks of delayed shipping for a in stock ThinkPad, I am retuning the T14s. It's definitely a slim ultrabook. The i7 eco chip is snappy but the battery life isn't that great and the trackpad sounds like the trackpad on a x201. It's 2021 they need to upgrade the trackpads deep clicking but the texture of the surface is very smooth and feels great. Also, I found it weird that my screen language randomly changes to Russian on its own and I had to figure out how to change it back. I ended up buying a 14 M1 Pro 10 core on sale to carry around and downloaded Parallels to run windows 11.
it's so dangerous & trash to use windows on a mac man rethink your choice.
Actually good you gave it back, i have the p14s gen 1 AMD and jesus soo many issues, wonky touchpad after sleep/suspend, sometimes touchpad does not outright work on certain boots, including in the bios, i need a proper power down cycle for it to work
Even a touchpad replacement did not do it
Also had to get the keyboard replacement cause some of the key stopped working
And usb ports were a bit wonky where the ports were having connection problems with my wired headset on p14s but worked fine on dell vostro, again tried replacement but not much difference
Now the charging port and the sleep indicator led on the logo stopped working, and getting a motherboard replacement this week
And all that within a span of 10 months of using the device
@@alanhaider1321 it’s dangerous and trash??? Lmao what
Lenovo must take great care not ruining the thinkpad line thinkpads are the best ever
x230 gang where ya attttt
Trackpoint is design for field people who need to wear gloves
Oh! Definitely something we didn’t think of, but yet it all makes sense!
Der Beste Lenovo ist der Lenovo T16 und Lenovo X1 Carbon !!
I need a thinkpad with optical drive I’m often on travel so it should survive in a backpack.
Is there something in the Lenovo lineup for me ?
Hi there :) you can check this out. Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 9 20XW008TPH , Lenovo ThinkPad X200 and Lenovo ThinkPad T540p-20BFA0AVPB
@@Terafied
The T540 is equipped with a optical drive but does it get bent?
Thinkpad vs precision 17" ?
Unfortunately the latest ThinkPad models lack the superior keyboards and fantastic battery life found on models from several years ago. I wish Lenovo would offer at least one laptop with the older style keyboard and the dual battery setup.
You don't need the spare battery thing, just use a usb charger. The old keyboards are also very clunky and increasingly a niche interest. The clicklit (whatever that means) keyboards are still good and better than market.
Just love my t480 and 2 batteries. Love swapping removable battery for fully charge one
Can someone let me know the price of them ?!
Actually HP z book also offer the trackpoint but it doesn't work well as the one from thinkpad
Ahhh, good to know!
Some Dell models also have trackpoints.
t480 still the best
I got the X1 carbon for 200 bucks on Amazon
How is it so far?
How about T series? Are they paced out?
No, get those, specifically a T430 with a 420 keyboard and 440 display
! An operating system wasn't found.Try disconnecting any drives that don't contain an operating system.? what happened?💻
My lapyop just says Yoga, has a physical button with the windows logo right in the middle of the frame under the screen and the stylus comes from the right buttom corner right beside the power button, can anyne tell what model it is?
Lenovo yoga
Please guide a 15.6 or 16 inch ThinkPad laptop with num.pad. Professional quality Graphics card is not important for me because I need it for online trading, Excel sheets and watching UA-cam videos. RAM size required is 32GB. I want a mobile workstation preferably of Lenovo or HP. Keyboard should have backlight for each key separately. Caps lock & num. Lock should have on / off indicator light.
This Please
I use a T15 Gen 2 for the reasons you described. Easy to carry around, but has a numpad, micro sd card slot, ethernet port, and the 1.8mm keyboard travel with the backlight. If you use Ebay you can find one cheap for around $700 certified refurbished.
The P series is the mobile workstation. I have a T-15 gen 2 and T17 gen 2 with a graphics card and they're great.
Got them like new for $1229 and $1499 respectively.
Look into Lenovo ThinkPad T16. With an i7 11th gen CPU or better, it should meet most of your laptop 💻 needs.
If you want a true "Workstation", look into HP Zbook.
@@akin242002 I had an HP ZBook X2. It was a great workstation as well for artwork. They don't make that series anymore though.
The Lenovo P series is the workstation series for Lenovo. I have a P17 Gen 2 and it's a beast with a RTX A-series graphics card. People use them a lot for heavy rendering and processing work.
I have a P15 Gen 2 as well for more on the go use with a 1080P high nit screen and it has around 14 hour battery life.
That's the series to pick if you want heavy duty work done. The T series is thinner and more portable and also good.
What about ThinkPad L and ThinkPad E series laptops?
Which one? I have L480 as my working laptop and I am not so thrilled with the build quality and its keyboard. What is nice that it has smartcard reader.
Maybe newer are better built.
@@Mladenac I have an T580 currently and I wasn’t impressed with the keyboard as well. I ordered a new CTO E15 Gen 4 straight from Lenovo and it should arrive later this week. I’ll try and update you after it get it setup.
@@ParoxyDM My coworker got E14 (maybe gen 2) and its keyboards was flawless
@@Mladenac Don't get me wrong, the keyboard is acceptable and functional. But it's not *great* like we expected from Lenovo 5-or-so years ago.
@@ParoxyDM I got IBM R40, Lenovo T410, Lenovo L480 and X1 Gen 7.
Comparing to L480 keyboard on E14 Gen 2 is flawless. As I wrote I find L480 a bit to stiff.
I am pretty satisfied with mine on X1.
I once had a lenovo yoga and the fan kicked in and stayed on for the dumbest processing reasons. it sounded like an Airbus taking off.
One with no spyware, which one?
The lightest Thinkpad is X1 Nano.
I love this channel
Thanks for watching!
When they gonna make the trackpad smaller and make more room for the keyboard?
You forgot to mention the workhorse series... T series..
You get a trackpoint on a Dell too. But it's the wrong colour.
Good coverage. Thanks
How can I access this one for professional use in Qatar? Thank you
you buy from a seller
Is there still a T series Lenovo Thinkpad a powerful laptop (Intel i 5), with a good memory and normal SSD in 2024 and beyond?
Comparatively with an L series intel i 7 4GB RAM, 120SSD with a little bad battery time, it is not a good proposal at the present time even if intel i 7 and are we going towards 2025? I hope your comment will resonate and give a good wink, I would like to save on eggs and on cooking oil and buy a powerful PC that is fast, therefore I found a page where I can go through touches and take out the correct description for the desired product which still is good.
I wish my Legion 5 had the 'trak-nubbin' on the keyboard.
Ahahah! Would’ve been cool!
I have a question that obsesses me: why buy a thinkpad if all the tests of any technician in the world show that today's Apple computers (Macbook Air or Pro, iMac 2021, etc., all equipped with of the M1 or M2 chip), impressively beat any high-end PC in all aspects, level of battery life, screen definition (always much higher) and the synthesis of colors, the calculation speed (even with a simple macbook air M1), the little heating of the computer, the weight, the sound quality...? For very heavy and multi-tasking professional video editing, here again the Macbook Pro 14 or 16 and more clearly the Mac Studio and Mac Pro are clearly superior. In addition, Macbooks are a thousand times more beautiful, ergonomic, etc. For gamers, I can understand. But for everyone else? One could give as a reason the very high price for the Mac computers but Thinkpads which can almost compete with Macs are often very expensive too.
In my case, I am a software developer and right now I am working in the banking sector, for standards I have to bought a laptop with windows 10 pro :/
lots of reason, upgradebility, stupid ssd soldered, hard or even imposible to self repair, lack if port, most importanly dont want to help company that don't care or contribute to the people, every things has price, fuck that shit
@@itaamelia6715 Buy the Mac from the start with the level you need (memory, processor, number of ports, etc.), you won't need to replace anything afterwards. As for the question of “repair”, Macs are almost indestructible, the problem arises very rarely. The price is higher but you then no longer spend the years that follow: with Windows, you are stuck with software to buy, additional memory to install and pay for, repairs to do, often requiring you to have to reformat and reinstall ). With Apple, the next versions of the operating system will be completely free for many years (!), which is not at all the case with Windows which is also the victim of numerous bugs (I have been on Windows for almost 25 years, I know what I'm talking about!). Windows is also the target of many viruses, therefore requiring the purchase of security software and the constant installation and purchase of applications from 36,000 companies without end. In a new generation Mac, all the necessary applications are already inside (nothing to pay for or install) and they are ultra-efficient, I witness it every day. Macs, especially since the Apple Silicone revolution of 2020 finally freed from Intel (so: ALL M1 or M2 Macs, that is to say these computers whose everything inside has been created and designed exclusively by Apple: memory , processor, sound, etc.) heat up PRACTICALLY NOT AT ALL: this is also the main and most essential revolution, which explains why a simple ultra-flat Mac Book Air without ANY FAN will heat up very little and most of the time not at all, because Apple chips hardly heat up: Windows laptops, on the contrary, require immense ventilation AND CAUSE A LOT OF NOISE, and bring in dust. For the rest, EVERYTHING at Apple is superior: screen, image definition (1 billion colors), quality of materials, construction and design of the perfectly integrated processor and memory, keyboard feel, battery life, charging with Magsafe ( so practical!), Touch ID for all uses and absolutely flawless, set of high-end software already included, weight of the computer and its duration over time, incomparable design (the bad aesthetic taste of so many PCs!), ergonomics, the perfect transparency of the Apple ecosystem (for example from the iPhone to the computer), the phenomenal loading speed of the operating system, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
@danielhalachev4714 I don't know what generation of iPhone your iPhone was, but the scenario you describe has not existed since at least iPhone 10 (we are now at iPhone 15). For Macs, if your computer was before 2020 (i.e. 2019 and earlier) this may be the reason, because since 2020, i.e. since Apple decided to design and produce its processors, memory, card itself -mother, etc., so by FINALLY getting rid of its dependence on Intel and producing real bombs of incomparable performance at all levels, the communication between Apple devices is phenomenally transparent.
@danielhalachev4714 If you own the Mac from the start with the level you need (memory, processor, number of ports, etc.), you won't have to replace anything later. As for the question of “repair”, Macs being almost indestructible, the problem arises very rarely. The price is higher but then you don't spend the next few years: with Windows, you find yourself stuck with software to buy, additional memory to install and pay for, repairs to do, often requiring you to reformat and reinstall). With Apple, the next versions of the operating system will be completely free for many years (!), which is not at all the case with Windows which is also the victim of numerous bugs (I have been using Windows for almost 25 years , I you know what I'm talking about!). Windows is also the target of many viruses, therefore requiring the purchase of security software and the constant installation and purchase of applications from 36,000 endless companies. In a new generation Mac, all the necessary applications are already inside (nothing to pay for or install) and they are ultra efficient, I witness it every day. Macs, especially since the Apple Silicone revolution of 2020 finally freed from Intel (so: ALL M1 or M2 Macs, that is to say these computers whose everything inside has been created and designed exclusively by Apple: memory, processor, sound, etc.) heat up PRACTICALLY NOT AT ALL: this is also the main and most essential revolution, which explains why a simple ultra-flat Mac Book Air without ANY FAN will only heat very little and most of the time. time not at all, because Apple chips practically do not heat up: Windows laptops, on the contrary, require immense ventilation AND CAUSE A LOT OF NOISE, and bring dust. For the rest, EVERYTHING at Apple is superior: screen, image definition (1 billion colors), quality of materials, construction and design of the perfectly integrated processor and memory, keyboard feel, battery life, charging with Magsafe (so practical!), Touch ID for all uses and absolutely impeccable, set of high-end software already included, weight of the computer and its duration over time, incomparable design (the bad aesthetic taste of so many PCs !), ergonomics, perfect transparency of the Apple ecosystem (for example from iPhone to computer), the phenomenal loading speed of the operating system, etc.
Posing as a ThinkPad expert and not using TrackPoint? Sucks.
You forgot the price
Im looking for something I can play Online Poker and general use...Under 500 any suggestions Guys and Gals Thanks!
Refurbished Thinkpad T400 series. T420, T430, T440. Ebay, great prices
Is it touch screen?
Title is definitely misleading. It's too vague and it's not descriptive of the content.
Hello i recently bought the "Lenovo thinkpad x1 i5 7th generation" but i wonder what year it was released ? Please help me (ps: i think it's "yoga x1")
Thinking about getting one for work
It would surely serve you well.
Mine is thinkpad X1 yoga 4th gen and thinkpad e431
which one? a hp elitebook one :D
Underrated channel
Lenovo ThinkPad T420 best!
Thanks for review! Is there any thinkpad without ips display? Amoled or something else? I dont like ips
These days, the new generation has some great stuff!
Why are their screen so bad ?
Where is T series?
I like Lenovo laptop.