Ironically, one of the things that made Diane feel less alone, as a young girl, was Horsing Around, a fun 90s sitcom, not some profound TV series about trauma. Sometimes, trauma isn't good damage that gives your suffering some deep meaning that can be expressed through art as a form of redemption. Sometimes, it's just trauma, and you don't have to make it the central point of your life, because that is what will bring you more suferring.
Personally, I think it would've been even scarier if this was the episode that came after Face of Depression, and A Quick One While He's Away came after this. That way we would've been left wondering why Hollyhock was keeping such a distance from Bojack and we would be led to believe everything Bojack did was water under the bridge. Thus, when we see Charlotte's profile picture, we're just as shocked as Bojack. Because A Quick One While He's Away makes it clear Bojack's past mistake aren't as done with him as he is with them, we know something bad is coming for him in the next episode. So while Charlotte's call is shocking, I think a simple reorganization of the episodes would've made it even moreso.
The gimmick with Paige and Max is that they are figuratively "the past." Paige Sinclair's dress is modeled after Katherine Hepburn's wedding dress in "The Philadelphia Story" (1940) and they speak in Translatlantic accents popular amongst reporters and actors in the 30s and 40s. They're outdated on purpose to represent "the past" catching up with BoJack. That's also why their dialogue is so snappy, it's reminiscent of screwball comedies of the era. Paige being a pig could be leaning into the gimmick as well, truffle pigs especially are known for rooting things up The amount of thought they put into this show is wild
You're not wrong to care about Bojack and feel conflicted, I think that's one of the main "points" of the show. We don't care about what happens to terrible celebrities in real life because we're looking at them from an outside perspective. It's different in this case because we've spent several seasons literally inside Bojack's mind, hearing his thoughts and seeing how he was so negatively affected by his awful childhood and warped by the cutthroat Hollywood environment. Think about the opening of the episode titled 'Free Churro'. Bojack's father continuously taught Bojack to just blame everyone else for his own problems. "I'm not a successful writer! Must be because we just had to have a kid. It's their fault, and it's therefore justified to mooch off of my wife's family wealth as penance for their betrayal." We feel conflicted because we get to see that his intentions are (usually) not malicious. A number of mistakes he's made were genuine accidents. Alot of his actions DO deserve consequences, but we feel conflicted because we hear his thoughts about how much he hates himself for all of it and can't seem to figure out how to make things right. We don't get to see that side of most terrible people IRL. Fear of the inability to correct your mistakes is something every human can relate to, so we are drawn to empathize with Bojack. This is all compounded by the beginning of this season, when things seem to finally start falling into better places. Bojack is healthier and trying to change and genuinely connect with the people he cares about, he finds a seemingly fitting new job and starts to move on. We don't want to see this budding happy conclusion for him fall apart, even though we know that a lot of his mistakes need correcting and some of his actions may be unforgivable by the people he affected.
Did people love the bond that Bojack and Hollyhock had? Yes BUUUUTT Here's the thing 15:08 she points out that the fact that gets overlooked most Hollyhock is what 19 or 20 by this point? Bojack is in his MIDDLE 50's there is almost 4 decades between them him trying so hard to push for an equal relationship while he doesn't mean to be overbearing is VASTLY Unfair to her Being brother and sister doesn't negate the fact that he intruded on her life (And she absolutely knows what happened in NM) he did it for his own selfish reasons not to be close to her
25:41 mmmh i think we were already talking about this person sir.. 😂 also you were way too hard man, as i always say to Ilene.. Ilene, laugh it up haha. As you said its very weird how Page Sinclair and her dweeb (i only know her name cause she says it herself so much 😂) are acting but i somehow still love them. And lastly, i love how i can relate so much to Diane, her episode about depression was done so well 🙃 and of course great video as always man 😁
6x10 is straight up my favourite episode of the show. It hits me so hard, as a writer with childhood trauma. Her ending conversation with PC I can quote word for word
If it were any time before Bojack made a change for the better, I'd be thirsting for the reporters to expose him and for the youngsters to come forward. Now I feel conflicted about it.
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Ironically, one of the things that made Diane feel less alone, as a young girl, was Horsing Around, a fun 90s sitcom, not some profound TV series about trauma.
Sometimes, trauma isn't good damage that gives your suffering some deep meaning that can be expressed through art as a form of redemption. Sometimes, it's just trauma, and you don't have to make it the central point of your life, because that is what will bring you more suferring.
It's funny how the scariest thing in this show is seeing a cartoon deer's face appear on a cellphone
I know lol i remember being scared too
Personally, I think it would've been even scarier if this was the episode that came after Face of Depression, and A Quick One While He's Away came after this. That way we would've been left wondering why Hollyhock was keeping such a distance from Bojack and we would be led to believe everything Bojack did was water under the bridge. Thus, when we see Charlotte's profile picture, we're just as shocked as Bojack. Because A Quick One While He's Away makes it clear Bojack's past mistake aren't as done with him as he is with them, we know something bad is coming for him in the next episode. So while Charlotte's call is shocking, I think a simple reorganization of the episodes would've made it even moreso.
The gimmick with Paige and Max is that they are figuratively "the past." Paige Sinclair's dress is modeled after Katherine Hepburn's wedding dress in "The Philadelphia Story" (1940) and they speak in Translatlantic accents popular amongst reporters and actors in the 30s and 40s. They're outdated on purpose to represent "the past" catching up with BoJack. That's also why their dialogue is so snappy, it's reminiscent of screwball comedies of the era. Paige being a pig could be leaning into the gimmick as well, truffle pigs especially are known for rooting things up
The amount of thought they put into this show is wild
Or, you know, they are just joke characters while also playing their part!
“Does she know?”
As far as we know Hollyhock doesn’t know anything about Penny. But she does know about Maddie.
You're not wrong to care about Bojack and feel conflicted, I think that's one of the main "points" of the show. We don't care about what happens to terrible celebrities in real life because we're looking at them from an outside perspective. It's different in this case because we've spent several seasons literally inside Bojack's mind, hearing his thoughts and seeing how he was so negatively affected by his awful childhood and warped by the cutthroat Hollywood environment.
Think about the opening of the episode titled 'Free Churro'. Bojack's father continuously taught Bojack to just blame everyone else for his own problems. "I'm not a successful writer! Must be because we just had to have a kid. It's their fault, and it's therefore justified to mooch off of my wife's family wealth as penance for their betrayal."
We feel conflicted because we get to see that his intentions are (usually) not malicious. A number of mistakes he's made were genuine accidents. Alot of his actions DO deserve consequences, but we feel conflicted because we hear his thoughts about how much he hates himself for all of it and can't seem to figure out how to make things right. We don't get to see that side of most terrible people IRL. Fear of the inability to correct your mistakes is something every human can relate to, so we are drawn to empathize with Bojack.
This is all compounded by the beginning of this season, when things seem to finally start falling into better places. Bojack is healthier and trying to change and genuinely connect with the people he cares about, he finds a seemingly fitting new job and starts to move on. We don't want to see this budding happy conclusion for him fall apart, even though we know that a lot of his mistakes need correcting and some of his actions may be unforgivable by the people he affected.
Did people love the bond that Bojack and Hollyhock had? Yes
BUUUUTT Here's the thing 15:08 she points out that the fact that gets overlooked most Hollyhock is what 19 or 20 by this point? Bojack is in his MIDDLE 50's there is almost 4 decades between them him trying so hard to push for an equal relationship while he doesn't mean to be overbearing is VASTLY Unfair to her
Being brother and sister doesn't negate the fact that he intruded on her life (And she absolutely knows what happened in NM) he did it for his own selfish reasons not to be close to her
17:40 Diane's montage was a parody of Mentos.
I feel like JD Salinger did when he was watching HSACWDTKDTKTLFO
25:41 mmmh i think we were already talking about this person sir.. 😂 also you were way too hard man, as i always say to Ilene.. Ilene, laugh it up haha. As you said its very weird how Page Sinclair and her dweeb (i only know her name cause she says it herself so much 😂) are acting but i somehow still love them. And lastly, i love how i can relate so much to Diane, her episode about depression was done so well 🙃 and of course great video as always man 😁
This is a random pitch, but would you ever think about doing a Doctor Who reaction series?
I'd do it as a Patreon exclusive if anything. There's like 10+ seasons isn't there? That'd take a longgggg time on YT
I assume you meant Dr Hu , Dr Allen Hu? 🤔😏😉
@@EversPrimeTime Try 30+. Plus dozens of audiobooks. The series' ancient.
Fantastic last season is building to a wonderful climax 🎉🎉
The way you keep sympathizing with bojack makes me sick. It sucks.
i find good damage to be so relatable and that's sad. love your channel
6x10 is straight up my favourite episode of the show. It hits me so hard, as a writer with childhood trauma. Her ending conversation with PC I can quote word for word
If it were any time before Bojack made a change for the better, I'd be thirsting for the reporters to expose him and for the youngsters to come forward.
Now I feel conflicted about it.
RIGHT??
oooooh the last part of the series hurts SO MUCH it's so telling that he used Sharpie on that white board
👁️👄👁️
oh the best characters showed up
is fmab gonna stay a members exclusive? just curious :3
The series starts releasing on Friday :)