Yo Joma, UofToronto kid here. You look a lot like Stephen Chow in Tech. Thanks for bringing insights from a much more comedic perspective. The Startup series you made is something I find good at times like this. Those funny quirks , like putting your leg up real high LMAO. You did great and most importantly you don't sound like a Canadian Asian who have real impostor syndrome in our generation. God bless you.
Hi Joma, nice vid....congrats on the balling career. Bro, but he still has an ECON degree that prolley helped him get in there....BTW, how many hours a week would you guys say it takes on average to learn pretty O.K level of coding, data, or even web, type of stuff..? or even when you're a fresh junior in the field with a job. Like, do you have to pour your freetime into it to the point you get sick of looking at any computers.....Or is it possible to have some kinda other life things going on while on the journey to becoming a developer? many thx.
"Let's talk about how you can become a developer without a degree!" "So what kind of games do you play?" "What's your favourite IDE" .... Dude, stay on topic..
Nice, a dude interview! i know - this is a wasteland - 4 years old - don't get me wrong the chicks are great - im mean im totally not gay dude, but it's refreshing to see a dude, especially this episode, it is an interesting one!
Your stuff is great, could you make a video about what one needs to know to be a programmer in your opinion, how to structure your own learning. That would be quite helpful for someone learning to program.
What’s up Joma. I’m a senior SE also at C1 without a cs degree. My background is also in finance (lol why) and I can attest to what this man is saying. It doesn’t matter so much where you start, many employers value your portfolio more than your theoretical college credentials.
Don't be fooled. Even the "biggest" youtuber, pewdiepie only makes what a typical senior Engineer makes. Only produce videos for YT if you like doing it as a hobby. Make a "living" out of it ------ grow up and stop fantasizing. :)
Sun Wu Kong You must be joking Pewdiepie makes 500k a month And probably works 20 hours a month You don't have to work all day at some company to make decent money I have a friend that codes that makes around 96k a year I believe I use fb to run ads for online sales and I made 68k in my first year 2017 and I don't even know what coding is , I also work a regular job but the pay is shit. I only stay so I can pay bills without drawing from my business Im certain i will make more than her this year in half the time she spends coding or whatever they have her doing over there, idk tbh Life is about grinding and if his channel blew up id bet he would probably switch to yt fulltime hopefully he does his content is great But yt money is miles longer than the salary life
I've been a software engineer for close to 20 years. And I dont have a degree at all. However I studied like crazy for close to 8 years before landing a dev job. I also worked my way up the tech ladder starting at a pretty low level and building on my experience. It is very possible to have a good tech career without a degree. But you need to be prepared to study like a madman/woman. And be prepared for several years of not being considered good enough. Eventually it does pay off.
Steven Lee I think your attitude is the wrong one to have. I studied for 8 years because I liked computer science and it was interesting. Being able to do it professionally is a bonus. But when I started learning there was no idea of a career path. I studied because the topic intrigued me. If I didnt work in tech, I would probably still be writing code and studying the subject. Outside of terrible body shops. Most companies want passionate people. People who enjoy this stuff and enjoy solving interesting problems. And typically what will drive you is a passion for tech. If the only reason you study is because you only hope one day they'll be a job, then that's the wrong approach. This is why a lot of bootcamp graduates and even CS graduates are striking out in the market. I have also never got a job because I knew people. I do have a huge network of people in the industry. But I rarely hit them up for jobs. I hate being that guy who only calls people when he needs work. I'm good enough to get jobs on my own without any existing connections with the management team. When you're good enough you dont need internal referrals. You work speaks for itself.
That sounds awful, I'm glad the market for developers has grown a bit since you started. I got an apprenticeship for software developmemt right out of highschool with only 2 years of Java and 1 year of python experience(granted I was still in highschool, and I didn't care about any other subjects, so 2 years of doing nothing but studying CS 18 hours a day VS 8 years of having to balance a life while studying CS), but still to have to wait that long for a chance at a job would've killed me.
He's going to be an amazing parent, a lot of parents who force their kids to live a certain way end up breaking their kids mentally, unfortunately a 3rd year mechanical engineer I use to know ended up committing suicide due to the pressure of feeling the need to be a certain way, so I have a lot of respect for those parents who can unconditionally love their children.
A lot of skills I learned in my degree can be learned online by someone who is disciplined enough to do it on their own. One thing it did give me is that we had a lot of assignments and every single one of them was in teams of two or more. During my whole degree I constantly had important things that would affect my grades depending on other people and my relationships with them. And myself always being responsible for my part in the success or failure of other people. All that means is that if you're a self learner, one of the things you might want to self learn is collaborating with others. Even if you're the superior coder, just having a better solution doesn't mean that your teammate you got paired with is going to be down with that particular solution.
Awesome interview. As a parent myself, I'm not crazy about the whole "School is compulsory for success". As along the my kids have a good understanding of basic literacy, they can study however they see fit. I didn't go trough the usual university path but i work as a full-time programmer. I got a bunch of certificates then an advanced diploma in Software Engineering with Java before transferring credit for a one year top-up degree all while working as a developer. There are many paths to success in our time and as long as you have a realistic plan, its all good.
I keep getting mixed reactions on this I'm starting from nothing and its incredibly daunting. No CS background, no degree, I'm a pharmacy tech currently. Many people tell me I'll never make it but I keep pushing forward. It feels easy to want to give up. Failing is scary but the thought that I can succeed one day keeps driving me. I will continue to dedicate my time to self teaching with the belief that my work will pay off. Besides I really enjoy everything I've learned and what I can potentially create in the future.
This interview was really depressing. So basically as a self-taught programmer, I am pretty screwed. I do not know anyone and I did not go to school. My resume will just be passed over. So sad for me.
That is not true! If you work on a lot of projects and put them on your resume and on Github/LinkedIn people will pay attention to you! People care more about what you can do FOR them so you should be finding ways to show people what you can do. The best way to do this is usually by building things, which is what you would be doing in the job and this proves you can actually do the work. Also, if you don't know people, go to Meetups, find people on LinkedIn and Twitter and invite them to coffee. Find ways to solve your problems and those of others.
There are so many ways you can get into a tech career: - Contribute to open source, reference the pull requests you have made - Go to bootcamps, hackathons, anything team-based to help network - Get internships under your belt. Don't aim for the large companies (they have so many applicants they will just filter), but getting a foot in any smaller firm will be easy. Work your way up from there, since once you have an internship they will care less about other stuff. Good luck.
@@acousticallysane7703 The pay doesn’t justify the brutal working hours in high finance so people started to look for a job that has similar pay with better work life balance. And that job happened to be software or tech related. No special reasons tbh
Hey Joma, Can also interview Computer Hardware engineers and share their experience? I am a computer engineer and would like people to know about this field too...
Min 7:30 "connections are really important." The beginning of this interview shows how cool John really is!!! He loves JavaScript, uses both PC & Mac, uses Atom... :) Yay, me too!!! :)
Hey Joma, could you interview some people or a person who is in graphics / rendering programming field?? especially AAA game industry? If you could, i will DO express a lot of appreciation... Thanks!
taught myself 6502 assembly language in the late 80's in 2 weeks without a computer. been coding ever since. Moved back to the states and LITERALLY made up a complete and utter B.S. resume. The only job on there was a forth coding job with Joy Mining Machinery for 8 months :). Started doing consultant work and every time a contract finished I would add that job to the top of my resume and remove a BS item from the bottom... That was 30 years ago. I have NO degree in anything - i would never have survived career academics trying to tell ***ME*** what was good coding practices or how to do something back then lol... am the author of one of the fastest compilers of any non trivial programming language (there are some now that can compete but not many).
So is this realistic for an average person working towards it without a degree or is it a small percentage of really intelligent people getting these opportunities? I really want to get into programing, I have no experience atm, but plan on doing a learning program for the certification an education. Would I be able to land a regular high paying programing job after gaining couple years of experience and education? I’m scared of working towards this and not getting anywhere with it or making poop salary due to no degree or something.
Enjoyed this chat, and geeked out with you guys about the wavedashing. Retired D.Mario user here heheh. Also, I feel you on the way you might raise a kid in a way that you weren't able to experience. Subscribed fo' sho
@@xeofela you indian? Don't go with data science, you won't get job without MS, phd, no space for freelancing in this niche, and many more.. its kind of research area for mathematic nerds unlike usual programming
Why don't somebody comes up and bust this myth, how many of those sf developers have no CS degree.. according to stackoverflow more than 50% developers are self taught then why not the same numbers of employees, or there is?
I do not know where the software engineer position name came from but if you have engineering degree in software engineering make sense otherwise you should be called software developer not an engineer. You need an engineering experience or engineering degree to call your self an engineer. Even when you are doing software, it is software development and has nothing to do with engineering. So when you get a job as software development position called software engineer. Do not call yourself an engineer cause you are not!
Software engineers ARE real engineers. We build, design, test and maintain just like any other engineering field. We also use engineering principles in our software systems. Lives also depend on software engineers, so we have to take a lot of ethics courses just like any other engineer as well.
@@johnfedorov8089 you just described engineer by practice that is not what I am talking about. I think it is fair for engineering students and people with engineering degrees / license experience to be called software engineer. Those who takes 6 months boot camp and get hire in an """ entry level """ software engineer job should not be called engineers!!!!! Period! They don't have the experience or the degree or nothing to be called engineer. After 3 years of experience and engineer license sure they can be called engineers!
@@Ahmed-zq2vo I understand now, and I agree with you. Just because you finished a boot camp or online courses doesn't mean you're an engineer. Yes, well said Ahmed.
"not a school guy" ...........yet did tons of schooling and he claims he didn't do well in school, but that probably means he got a 95 instead of a 100
Please tell me this :- So he made his entry into coding after getting a job in whatever degree he did? So he must have been how many yo when he made the effort to learn coding?
Check out techlead if you really want to invest your time, that guy is awesome. Joma : What will we get by this interview? Try to make content that can be applied useful and give some insight into this industry, you are working in a firm where many of us could not even dream of working. I am sure there can be plenty of stuff to share. Gud luck thanks
joma, if you have a kid, just lead by example, dont try and get them to do anything... your a good kid with a mission to do good... thats it..thats your legacy. Also , by the time you have a kid...and they are healthy.. that will be enough...believe me.... fuk shit lomu, i just saw last 1 minute of your interview... u got it worked out already... peace
When i was using unix machine, i typed -LS to list the files that are in my current working directory. Not sure if this is the same thing they are referring to.
GitHub should be the main way to get a programming job. If Cs degrees make people better coders then they should have no problem doing work that proves that.
Sometimes you have to ask dumb questions. If your coworker spent years doing the stuff you are just starting to do, he/she will likely lose touch with what is or isn’t common sense anymore. By asking what seems like basic questions will help your team know what things they have to teach you.
John: "...I ended up working for a small Korean firm. It was terrible."
Joma: "Oh nice! Ok, Cool!"
Oh, I thought he said he worked for a small Korean farm. This makes much more sense.
He simply did not want to get into mentioning the name of the company and humiliate it =P
This actually gives me so much hope man, im loving the studying with programming, even thought its difficult in some cases
Yo Joma, UofToronto kid here. You look a lot like Stephen Chow in Tech. Thanks for bringing insights from a much more comedic perspective. The Startup series you made is something I find good at times like this. Those funny quirks , like putting your leg up real high LMAO. You did great and most importantly you don't sound like a Canadian Asian who have real impostor syndrome in our generation. God bless you.
17:36 "My kids like 3 months, he just had his 100th day" Joma: "Is it a he or a she?"
That was pretty informative and entertaining..Make more of these
Hi Joma, nice vid....congrats on the balling career. Bro, but he still has an ECON degree that prolley helped him get in there....BTW, how many hours a week would you guys say it takes on average to learn pretty O.K level of coding, data, or even web, type of stuff..? or even when you're a fresh junior in the field with a job. Like, do you have to pour your freetime into it to the point you get sick of looking at any computers.....Or is it possible to have some kinda other life things going on while on the journey to becoming a developer? many thx.
"Let's talk about how you can become a developer without a degree!"
"So what kind of games do you play?"
"What's your favourite IDE" ....
Dude, stay on topic..
just tryna get to know john man, make him open up more during their convo
"i ended up at a small korean firm... it was terrible"
"oh nice"
Rule 1 for being a successful developer: Be Asian.
or understand statistics might actually be a start...
@@yarakharam5343 unfortunately, this very statement he wrote proves he's not best statistician out there
It's only in us or other western countries... In india CS or MCA Degree is must..
Yea, cool, nice
how did he win? i don't get it, i thought ... nvm
"i had questions about jira.. Stupid shit like that.."
hahaah so stupid... (googling about jira)
I really like the music at the end.
yo what I want to hear the entire smash bros conversation
Soo what if you don’t have connections?
JS is love, JS is life.
Nice, a dude interview! i know - this is a wasteland - 4 years old - don't get me wrong the chicks are great - im mean im totally not gay dude, but it's refreshing to see a dude, especially this episode, it is an interesting one!
3:12 why:(
me in 3 years
6:10
John: "It was terrible"
Joma:"oh nice"
Kurtis Chau lol
Joma wasn't really listening the whole interview and got busted! lmao!
hahahaha ya
i think it's weird too
hahahah
LMAO xD
"I happen to know my brother" XD
Interview the TechLead please :D
Y E S
Yes please!!!!!
We are waiting for this, Joma.
Yeah, this would be cool.
That guy is a beast super quick and with a busy schedule.. There is very less possibility he would ever come and waste his precious time like this...
Your stuff is great, could you make a video about what one needs to know to be a programmer in your opinion, how to structure your own learning. That would be quite helpful for someone learning to program.
Fast forward to 3 years later...
What’s up Joma. I’m a senior SE also at C1 without a cs degree. My background is also in finance (lol why) and I can attest to what this man is saying. It doesn’t matter so much where you start, many employers value your portfolio more than your theoretical college credentials.
Is this video part of another whole plan? Joma Tech's got his path figured out to 1 mil subs already.
Don't be fooled. Even the "biggest" youtuber, pewdiepie only makes what a typical senior Engineer makes.
Only produce videos for YT if you like doing it as a hobby. Make a "living" out of it ------ grow up and stop fantasizing. :)
Sun Wu Kong
You must be joking Pewdiepie makes 500k a month
And probably works 20 hours a month
You don't have to work all day at some company to make decent money
I have a friend that codes that makes around 96k a year I believe
I use fb to run ads for online sales and I made 68k in my first year 2017 and I don't even know what coding is , I also work a regular job but the pay is shit. I only stay so I can pay bills without drawing from my business
Im certain i will make more than her this year in half the time she spends coding or whatever they have her doing over there, idk tbh
Life is about grinding and if his channel blew up id bet he would probably switch to yt fulltime hopefully he does his content is great
But yt money is miles longer than the salary life
You'll never be rich working for someone. Doesn't matter f you're a senior developer or a Doctor
I'm privileged to work with this dude! Sharp, on point, and sake bombs smasher ;)
I've been a software engineer for close to 20 years. And I dont have a degree at all. However I studied like crazy for close to 8 years before landing a dev job. I also worked my way up the tech ladder starting at a pretty low level and building on my experience.
It is very possible to have a good tech career without a degree. But you need to be prepared to study like a madman/woman. And be prepared for several years of not being considered good enough. Eventually it does pay off.
Steven Lee I think your attitude is the wrong one to have. I studied for 8 years because I liked computer science and it was interesting. Being able to do it professionally is a bonus. But when I started learning there was no idea of a career path. I studied because the topic intrigued me. If I didnt work in tech, I would probably still be writing code and studying the subject.
Outside of terrible body shops. Most companies want passionate people. People who enjoy this stuff and enjoy solving interesting problems. And typically what will drive you is a passion for tech. If the only reason you study is because you only hope one day they'll be a job, then that's the wrong approach. This is why a lot of bootcamp graduates and even CS graduates are striking out in the market.
I have also never got a job because I knew people. I do have a huge network of people in the industry. But I rarely hit them up for jobs. I hate being that guy who only calls people when he needs work. I'm good enough to get jobs on my own without any existing connections with the management team. When you're good enough you dont need internal referrals. You work speaks for itself.
That sounds awful, I'm glad the market for developers has grown a bit since you started. I got an apprenticeship for software developmemt right out of highschool with only 2 years of Java and 1 year of python experience(granted I was still in highschool, and I didn't care about any other subjects, so 2 years of doing nothing but studying CS 18 hours a day VS 8 years of having to balance a life while studying CS), but still to have to wait that long for a chance at a job would've killed me.
Are you rich?
I assume you had another job during these 8 years?
Im about to college in software engineering. What should I start learning before hand?
He's going to be an amazing parent, a lot of parents who force their kids to live a certain way end up breaking their kids mentally, unfortunately a 3rd year mechanical engineer I use to know ended up committing suicide due to the pressure of feeling the need to be a certain way, so I have a lot of respect for those parents who can unconditionally love their children.
my parents are the opposite of him...so you're totally right man...
18:46 tells that you have a great place for your parents. Being asian i loved that..god bless u bro
Only Asians can understand that............
Blacks and Jews and Hispanics understand that too
Vegan Pakistani transvestites understand it too
A lot of skills I learned in my degree can be learned online by someone who is disciplined enough to do it on their own.
One thing it did give me is that we had a lot of assignments and every single one of them was in teams of two or more. During my whole degree I constantly had important things that would affect my grades depending on other people and my relationships with them. And myself always being responsible for my part in the success or failure of other people.
All that means is that if you're a self learner, one of the things you might want to self learn is collaborating with others. Even if you're the superior coder, just having a better solution doesn't mean that your teammate you got paired with is going to be down with that particular solution.
Can you put Sunmi as backdrop no matter she will talk or not? It makes the video looks better
😂😂😂😂
Joma: "I just happen to know my brother"
Awesome interview. As a parent myself, I'm not crazy about the whole "School is compulsory for success". As along the my kids have a good understanding of basic literacy, they can study however they see fit.
I didn't go trough the usual university path but i work as a full-time programmer. I got a bunch of certificates then an advanced diploma in Software Engineering with Java before transferring credit for a one year top-up degree all while working as a developer.
There are many paths to success in our time and as long as you have a realistic plan, its all good.
I agree with this. I am also an engineer and my degree is in Economics.
5:19 lol, i feel his pain. fuck the CPA exam too, even though I am a CPA. recession was brutal
"No, I just want to go to Stanford!" lol
I'd love to hop on to talk to you about App Academy if you'd like. I graduated from it last year and now I'm working at Dropbox.
BAOSS where?
All this CS background degree is a total crap. Waste of tuition money and time.
I keep getting mixed reactions on this I'm starting from nothing and its incredibly daunting. No CS background, no degree, I'm a pharmacy tech currently. Many people tell me I'll never make it but I keep pushing forward. It feels easy to want to give up. Failing is scary but the thought that I can succeed one day keeps driving me. I will continue to dedicate my time to self teaching with the belief that my work will pay off. Besides I really enjoy everything I've learned and what I can potentially create in the future.
i love Joma Tech but that cartoon cut-out doesn't look a daaamnn thing like him lol
“I happen to know my brother” me too
I think I'm going to follow a similar route as this guy. Really inspiring to hear that it can be done. Thank you so much for this video man!
Hey what happened
How did the journey go?
Im planning the same so can you please answer
@@marshallmathers7865he busy working
Don't mind all these Sunmi comments Joma, just keep doing your thing man. It's your channel after all.
This interview was really depressing. So basically as a self-taught programmer, I am pretty screwed. I do not know anyone and I did not go to school. My resume will just be passed over. So sad for me.
That is not true! If you work on a lot of projects and put them on your resume and on Github/LinkedIn people will pay attention to you! People care more about what you can do FOR them so you should be finding ways to show people what you can do. The best way to do this is usually by building things, which is what you would be doing in the job and this proves you can actually do the work. Also, if you don't know people, go to Meetups, find people on LinkedIn and Twitter and invite them to coffee. Find ways to solve your problems and those of others.
There are so many ways you can get into a tech career:
- Contribute to open source, reference the pull requests you have made
- Go to bootcamps, hackathons, anything team-based to help network
- Get internships under your belt. Don't aim for the large companies (they have so many applicants they will just filter), but getting a foot in any smaller firm will be easy. Work your way up from there, since once you have an internship they will care less about other stuff.
Good luck.
better get a degree i guess.
These tech interviews are so dope
Great interview! Being an aspiring software engineer from an Econ/Finance background, this video is really helpful and encouraging :)
Why do I see many Economics/Finance people switching careers to Software Development or Technology in general? What's the problem there ?
@@acousticallysane7703 The pay doesn’t justify the brutal working hours in high finance so people started to look for a job that has similar pay with better work life balance. And that job happened to be software or tech related. No special reasons tbh
Hey Joma, Can also interview Computer Hardware engineers and share their experience? I am a computer engineer and would like people to know about this field too...
This!!!!!
5:08
when you wanna be cool and think of cool words
*Dude man*
“I happened to know my brother” lol
I just graduate in Economics and I’m learning how to code, it’s nice to see your story
Did you learn bro?
@@MadaraUchiha-ov2ov +++
Min 7:30 "connections are really important."
The beginning of this interview shows how cool John really is!!! He loves JavaScript, uses both PC & Mac, uses Atom... :) Yay, me too!!! :)
Min 15:00
Min 16:33
I have zero computing qualifications and, before I retired, I made it all the way to Software Team Lead. Pretty pleased with that.
My dad was exactly like these guys "do what makes you happy! start a band! have fun!" no dad I just wanna learn physics, leave me alone! 😂😂
hahahaha nice, hope my future son will tell me off the same way! :D
Hi Joma, what do you think about information systems vs computer science?
Hey Joma,
could you interview some people or a person who is in graphics / rendering programming field?? especially AAA game industry?
If you could, i will DO express a lot of appreciation...
Thanks!
taught myself 6502 assembly language in the late 80's in 2 weeks without a computer. been coding ever since. Moved back to the states and LITERALLY made up a complete and utter B.S. resume. The only job on there was a forth coding job with Joy Mining Machinery for 8 months :).
Started doing consultant work and every time a contract finished I would add that job to the top of my resume and remove a BS item from the bottom... That was 30 years ago. I have NO degree in anything - i would never have survived career academics trying to tell ***ME*** what was good coding practices or how to do something back then lol...
am the author of one of the fastest compilers of any non trivial programming language (there are some now that can compete but not many).
Also a function of the times...I do hope that modern companies judge on capabilities rather than my education.
Could you recommend a university that I can study software engineering masters? I have a java programming background but no bachelors in CS
I just found your channel yesterday. I will be coming back for more great information and good vibes!
Can you interview a UX Researcher if you know any :)
So is this realistic for an average person working towards it without a degree or is it a small percentage of really intelligent people getting these opportunities? I really want to get into programing, I have no experience atm, but plan on doing a learning program for the certification an education. Would I be able to land a regular high paying programing job after gaining couple years of experience and education? I’m scared of working towards this and not getting anywhere with it or making poop salary due to no degree or something.
Enjoyed this chat, and geeked out with you guys about the wavedashing. Retired D.Mario user here heheh. Also, I feel you on the way you might raise a kid in a way that you weren't able to experience. Subscribed fo' sho
I'm a BCA student and your channel really motivates me in going forward....keep up the good work.....
Its been two years, how is it going?
@@amans6504 ive completed and now im trying to study data sc
@@xeofela you indian? Don't go with data science, you won't get job without MS, phd, no space for freelancing in this niche, and many more.. its kind of research area for mathematic nerds unlike usual programming
@@amans6504 what about AI?AND ML then ill learn python and some other stuffs and try to become a fulltime developer
Yes im indian
He did not sound happy about being married!!
hahahaha
Why don't somebody comes up and bust this myth, how many of those sf developers have no CS degree.. according to stackoverflow more than 50% developers are self taught then why not the same numbers of employees, or there is?
Common dude, I really wanted to see that smash bros conversation...
I do not know where the software engineer position name came from but if you have engineering degree in software engineering make sense otherwise you should be called software developer not an engineer. You need an engineering experience or engineering degree to call your self an engineer. Even when you are doing software, it is software development and has nothing to do with engineering.
So when you get a job as software development position called software engineer. Do not call yourself an engineer cause you are not!
Software engineers ARE real engineers. We build, design, test and maintain just like any other engineering field. We also use engineering principles in our software systems. Lives also depend on software engineers, so we have to take a lot of ethics courses just like any other engineer as well.
@@johnfedorov8089 you just described engineer by practice that is not what I am talking about. I think it is fair for engineering students and people with engineering degrees / license experience to be called software engineer. Those who takes 6 months boot camp and get hire in an """ entry level """ software engineer job should not be called engineers!!!!! Period! They don't have the experience or the degree or nothing to be called engineer. After 3 years of experience and engineer license sure they can be called engineers!
@@Ahmed-zq2vo I understand now, and I agree with you. Just because you finished a boot camp or online courses doesn't mean you're an engineer. Yes, well said Ahmed.
I just enjoy your videos...funny as hell but also brings a lot of value. Especially, to aspiring coders. Thank you...keep up the great work.
Yes please interview the TechLead. He's awesome!
"not a school guy" ...........yet did tons of schooling
and he claims he didn't do well in school, but that probably means he got a 95 instead of a 100
Please tell me this :- So he made his entry into coding after getting a job in whatever degree he did? So he must have been how many yo when he made the effort to learn coding?
Hey, can you make a video with developers over 40? that could be interesting, I think.
Some of the best programmers I've worked with had no degree and are self taught.
Self taught is continuous learning, which is just being a professional. No?
Lemon_Drop self taught != to continuous learning
you know you succeed in parenting when your kids say "i wanna go study"
rolf man i love these interviews
Hey joma can you interview ux designers and perhaps other variety technical careers?
node.js is my jam too
WHERE IS SUNMI??
prob. taken already
She's dead
I think she needs to date.
your avatar
Very useful information. Wish I looked into this kind of stuff years ago :/
Software engineer. Don't have a degree, definitely possible going from Eastern European immigrant to middle class.
Hello Joma i want to ask question: what kind the programs or sites you recommend for adding portfolio?
I love that you guys started talking about wavedashing
6:06 John: "I ended up working at a small Korean firm, yeah it was terrible."
Joma: "Oh yeah, nice." LMAO
O wow this is really inspiring, I too is an accountant and recently hooked up with web programming.
Check out techlead if you really want to invest your time, that guy is awesome. Joma : What will we get by this interview? Try to make content that can be applied useful and give some insight into this industry, you are working in a firm where many of us could not even dream of working. I am sure there can be plenty of stuff to share. Gud luck thanks
joma, if you have a kid, just lead by example, dont try and get them to do anything... your a good kid with a mission to do good... thats it..thats your legacy. Also , by the time you have a kid...and they are healthy.. that will be enough...believe me....
fuk shit lomu, i just saw last 1 minute of your interview... u got it worked out already... peace
Fuck joma giving me some interest in programming and computer stuffs. I'm only a high school grad and I want to try to become a software engineer
What is it >Is ? don't have a programming background at all
When i was using unix machine, i typed -LS to list the files that are in my current working directory. Not sure if this is the same thing they are referring to.
GitHub should be the main way to get a programming job. If Cs degrees make people better coders then they should have no problem doing work that proves that.
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Your videos are actually well done, keep it up!
"Atom"? Is that even an IDE? I thought it was just a code editor
It's an Ikea ide, you assemble it yourself
Sometimes you have to ask dumb questions. If your coworker spent years doing the stuff you are just starting to do, he/she will likely lose touch with what is or isn’t common sense anymore. By asking what seems like basic questions will help your team know what things they have to teach you.
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You graduated without knowing ls. LOL I have the same eye-contact problem. How come I never see you interview non-Asians?
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My macbook is really cool. Thanks for God!
Joma is such a great interviewer, his editing, humor and question asked are so enjoyable
Linux > Max > Windows
i'd probably get busted in the social aspect of the interview
really not a "bro" type of programmer
This is crazy. My father went to school for Electrical Engineering. I graduated in Accounting a few weeks ago. Now, i'm learning SQL and Python