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Is it Worth the Money? Comparing Tundra TRD Pro vs. Tundra Limited TRD Off-Road
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
- In this video, it's Tundra vs. Tundra as Tim Esterdahl gets behind the wheel of the 2022 Toyota Tundra TRD Pro and compares it to the 2022 Toyota Tundra Limited TRD Off-Road that he bought for the channel back in December. The Limited has the 3.5L twin-turbo i-FORCE V6 while the TRD Pro features the Hybrid version, the i-FORCE MAX. How do they compare on fuel economy? Is the TRD Pro worth the money? Did Tim buy the wrong one? Watch this video and let us know what you think!
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Love this Video! Taking possession of my 2023 Toyota Tundra TRD PRO I-Force Hybrid on Friday of this week. Love your content. Thank you!!
I like how the Pro headlights interior are blacked out. Thanks for the updated review and go Bills!
Thanks for sharing the details, I’m just ordering my new 2023 trd pro hybrid crew max these tips will help me get to know my new TRD Pro hybrid crewma
Time both are fantastic looking trucks. However the one I want (currently being built) is the Platinum Hybrid. I find it interesting to see people scoff at the towing of the new Tundra, touting that the Ford can do more. What people fail to realize is the 14k towing is a two-wheel drive truck. When compared apples to apples (F150 Lariat and the Platinum Hybrid), Tundra wins the challenge. Maybe you can do a video on towing equally compared trucks.
Was gonna get a ram 1500 but I think your video makes me want this one
Tim thanks for the comparison. I will have the solar octane next week. Currently have the 2020 TRD pro. See what I think shortly
Limited hybrid, you would get the full LCD gauges and no start-stop button. As your next truck, I'd like to see the next-gen 1500 Duramax from GM.
Great Video!
Id like to see the comparison of the Limited Gas vs the Limited Hybrid, both in the TRD Off Road. I eventually, want to purchase a Limited Hybrid but they seem harder to find.
we have a 24 limited & I just bought the 24 Platinum I-Force Max ($65k cash) (avg 18mpg) for towing heavy equipment. I couldn't justify the premium pricing for the Capstone or the TRD Pro for what I needed. My 2013 Ram Laramie/Longhorn (175k) now needs a rear-end & manifolds, so needed to replace it.
As an aside, my older 5.7 Tundra's NEVER had mech issues (180 & 200k), but the 12mpg was tough to take back then.
Toyota didn't do enough, for me to buy a Pro. Basically the same Truck. Buy the limited. The 1 inch lift is weak for an off road truck..
I would go with the Limited TRD OFF ROAD than TRD PRO or 1794 Edition which looks more luxurious though don't own a Toyota know so much about them since been huge fan since 2004 when was a teenager been car lover all my life.
Great video! I'm still rocking my 08 TRD, thats modded up. Next Tundra will be the PRO, and yes you should've went with the PRO
I have a 19’ 1794. I bought it brand new, with the TRD dual exhaust and the TRD rear sway bar, and I love it!!! I’m keeping it till the wheels fall off.
I’m not really excited about this new Tundra, going to give it a few years to see how tried and true Toyota is going to uphold its reputation of QDR.
I would recommend you driving one and do so with an open mind. The all-new Tundra is a game changer. I did not like the previous generation of Tundra always preferred the Tacoma over the Tundra, with that being said the new Tundra is simply amazing.
@@ZacharyGallagherco-sign..I still have my 2008 Limited Crewmax 5.7 and will be gifting it to my dad since I recently purchased a 2023 Limited with the 5.5ft bed and I love it. These turbo V6s will do well with proper maintenance just like the 5.7.
The hybrid has so much pick up, punch, and fast!!!
I bought the Capstone Tundra to replace my '11 Platinum. The best part of the Hybrid is it removes all annoyances of the Start/Stop Feature. The worst part is it removes all storage from the interior. This becomes even more annoying when you pop off the covers to the "Batter Bank" under the seats to find it is mostly just wasted space. There is Zero storage in this truck cab. Coming from my '11 with Lots of room behind the seats and some under, that has been a pretty big disappointment for me.
you picked the right one ,no $15,000 mark ups
Had a lexus hybrid and the engine went out on me at 130k. My parents had the lexus suv hybrid their engine went out at 90ish k.. Definetly not risking getting a hybrid with toyota/lexus again.. plus those batteries are expensive to maintain if you plan to keep or sell after 8 years.. Also the older they get the less power the output. For long term id definetly go without the hybrid which personally thats what im doing. Got a platinum with the non hybrid engine with offroad wheels :)
Good Video Tim. I bought a non-hybrid Limited TRD OR with 6.5 bed and all available options for $61K MSRP, I couldn't justify another $9K for TRD PRO. Sure it would be cool to have, but not enough benefits. Plus I went non-hybrid to have available underseat storage which I am so happy i did. I had the pleasure of driving a Capstone before my truck came in so i could feel the difference in Hybrid engine powertrain, it certainly is fun to drive and the digital dash is cool too. But again not enough benefit for the additional cost.
Keep up the great review videos!
You do realize that the TRD pro comes with things you can't get on the TRD Offroad Limited right? Like the shocks for example, you don't get Fox shock suspension front/rear on anything but the TRD pro. Those things are why the TRD pro is more
@@iandouglas8274 of course I realize that, but what I said was I couldn’t justify the extra cost for items I don’t need. I won’t be off-roading my truck so that pro suspension is not necessary.
@@iandouglas8274 the Hybrid 4x4 Tundra has a towing capacity of 12,000 pounds .
@@ZacharyGallagherwho the hell needs to tow 12k all week long. 99% of people towing capacity can be done with a suv
@@gunsmokezz I'm with you towing that much on any 1/4 ton truck has to feel a little sketch.
Tim,
Stay with your Limited. Unless you want the off the line rocket then trade up for the Pro in Lunar Rock. Definitely keep a Toyota product
Great video!
Do you think the air dam makes a big impact or fuel economy, ride, highway stability?
Minimal impact.
Was that wind noise during the intro? I would expect the TRD Pro to drive more like a truck given the suspension.
Does it have check engine light ? I saw orange !
I got the limited trd hybrid I got the digital dash in it.
Excellent!!!
Bought mine the end of January this year. The only choices were Platinum or 1794 Edition. Bought the 1794 in Army Green. If the TRD Pro was available, especially Solar Octane, I would have bought that. According to Hartford Toyota mine was the first one out the door for them in January, MSRP only then. Now with the markups they are doing probably would not purchase anything.
Did hartford Toyota add the thousand dollar over charge as they show on there web site?
@@frankkeel8410 No MSRP only. According to the Manager mine was their first sale at the end of January. At that time no one really knew how short the supply would be.
Yup. Sell the limited, get a 23 Pro. If only so we can hear you say “hybrid” lol😂. Seriously though. Love the channel. Love the videos. Thank you.
I can not say that word for the life of me!
I’d just buy an SR5 with the TRD Premium package and since I don’t use 4x4 much on the 4Runner even while off roading… might as well do RWD. Color would be blueprint or a magnetic gray.
I have the limited TRD Off road...no issues yet, I don't care for how it turns it seems tight and short especially in tight parking spaces, otherwise no issues accept I wish they still had v8's, but the twin turbo will get it if you press on the gas...
They cut me a deal for the same off $48k 😊
The one thing that you did not mention between the two is the batteries under the rear seat in the pro. It’s why I don’t want the pro.
I have a neighbor that added the TRD Pro badges to his normal Tacoma. I'm not sure what's up with some of the Toyota crowd. But he would be some jealous of this bright one. I think in a normal color that truck would be quite nice. I don't know though Tim I don't think your limited was a bad choice, it was the earliest for views too. I think I'd rather a Coyote Tremor in XLT trim over both of them to be honest though.
Got my TRD Pro 3 months ago, Solar Octane, Love It.
…and that Solar Octane has not worn on you? Just curious b/c I like it as well… but am cautiously optimistic on how well it will age. Still have my silver ‘08 LS460, so I tend to keep ‘em - a long time😂
@@bobbyb.1743 I don’t keep them more than 3 years… might not age verry well, but I just love it. Great truck, strong, suspension is great. Curently waiting for turbo replacement🤨.
Do you still have it I’m buying a 2024 White Tundra TRD Pro next weekend and I want to make sure I’m making the right decision. Any thoughts please let me know thanks?!🙏
Yeah, you picked the wrong truck. The TRD Pro definitely fits your personality better. Needs more tow hook though. 😉
I’m buying a Limited all the way. No TRD necessary, can’t wait to feel the new suspension.
TRD is pro is a limited
@@impaul41 - you took the words out of my mouth.
There are small but IMPORTANT differences in off road ability. It matters to owners ONLY if you drive on steep, rocky, sandy, muddy, icy, or snow conditions off pavement. Me, no normal driver will need them… until you do… THEN you REALLY need it. As someone who has experienced the joys of a $4,000 tow in a remote area… I’m all in for those seldom used features.
@@Erin-Thor Okaaaaaayy, I’ll get the TRD package……..twist my arm
@@TundraDad LOL! So sorry if I cost you money. 😎
I do have one question concerning the price of the TRD Pro. Do you think dealerships will ever sell without a dealer mark up? I'm willing to pay MSRP but not more. Thanks
Lots of dealers sell at MSRP. Just have to be vigilant.
Love my TRD pro.. hugely fast and torque ..
I love mine too. Ordered 2 swing out bed storage bins to help with that storage issue
As a fan of the channel who has only been watching for about a year now, Id say keep switching up brands for your next purchase. Not sure what you had before the F150 powerboost, but i'd say test out a RAM or GMC for your next truck. Hell id even watch if you went Nissan.
Toyota4life
Exactly. It's just a tax write off for Tim anyway and it gives him the opportunity to review them for real everyday life. I'd say Dodge next. I'm actually wary of Dodge quality but they do have some cool features that the others don't have.
GMC HD😀😀
I have the platinum non hybrid and think this very same thing. And by the way. Bummed out that the TRD pro has the upper gray interior. My platinum headliner and pillars are black to match. Thought the Pro would be the same.
good point!!
Agree w/ black headliner on TRD Pro - 110%!,
Not on my 2024 TRD Pro thankfully! 🙏
The more you know star...loved it! HA HA!
Odd Q. from a weird new sub… I almost purchased a 2019 Limited but really have found the entry handles useful… but it had them for everyone BUT the driver. What about the interior handles on these?
New 2022 has driver grab handles.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Thank You!
Tim, I like your reviews and opinions and I know you're limited to specific comparisons based on availability, but this question would be better asked if you were comparing a hybrid Limited with TRD Offroad package and the TRD Pro. Doing that would eliminate any questions related to the powertrains and just compare the trim levels.
A Limited 4x4 with the hybrid, Crew max and 5.5' bed with max option package comes in at $63,925 whereas the TRD Pro comes in at $70,315. So, with equal powertrains, do the TRD Pro features justify the $6,390 price increase? Unique interior and exterior stylizations, 1.1" factory leveling kit, Fox Suspension, Larger tires and 18" BBS wheels, & TRD Exhaust are the notable differences I know of and for under $6,000 a lot of things can be done to a Limited.
The Trd pro will hold it's value much longer. I think when in the $70k plus price range it's the best buy in my option.
This would be the way I would spec mine. Just like the current Gen 4Runner & Tacoma. I recommend to my clients to explore the TRD Off Road premium packages when shopping for the TRD Pro (with the money you save you can get a very nice lift, wheels, and tires) & you can take advantage of Toyota Financials rebates/financing incentives. They do not offer any incentives for the TRD Pro’s
isn't the digital dash available in the limited if you get the hybrid?
Yes.
I’d actually like to know how the ride is on the regular limited model compared to your trd off road?
The TRD is slightly better. Not anything that’s amazingly different.
I hope it’s different b/c I was not overly impressed w/ the feedback I got from the Tundra limited test drive. Seemed large (long hood), lumbering and unremarkable in terms of punch and handling. I’d actually resigned myself to looking at a GMC (maybe an HD AT4), b/c I much prefer the GM/Tundra body style to the Ford (ugh). Alas, I’ve decided to wait and drive a TRD Pro before I make the purchase…dealerships don’t have ‘em available😢. Have a 2016 LandCruiser which is the one thing that’s making me wait for the TRD Pro test drive. Also have a 3/4t, ‘63 4x4 GMC that I love! Two competing brand loyalties that are both beasts in their own right! What to do🤔
Good video Tim-Thank you! I’ll stick with my Platinum. Have you heard about the fuel gauge issue Toyota’s having with the new Tundra? When you drive the new Tundra in forward or reverse under 3 mph on a incline or decline the fuel gauge will go to full. I’ve had to manually watch my mileage as this has happened at least five times in the past two months. I contacted my local Desler and He said they are aware of it and it’s a software issue? Do you have any contacts at Toyota that you could reach out to?
I’ve heard about it. Weird issue for sure. I haven’t experienced it so no video.
I’ve noticed mine does the same thing. I just bought the ‘22 Tundra SR5. I had the 21 Tacoma-watching these videos honestly makes me miss my Taco
@@acecone7215 I get that. I miss the power of my 08 Tundra and I’m getting impatient with Toyota’s lack of response on the gauge issue. Working it.
I would always wait a few years for a updated model to fix the bugs and kinks of the vehicle.
When you installed the level kit, did you have to adjust all the cameras due to the new angle?
No.
Tim, Grand Islander here, any of our state dealers selling at MSRP?
I'm sure plenty are. Check the forums or Facebook. Groups are always posting that information.
Tim, any ideas what production numbers will look like for the Pro in 2023?
Nothing. Sorry.
DO it, buy a Pro for next year, and review it.
Question? Why not compare your limited with limited iforce max. The suspension is different between with pro vs limited.
I can’t control what vehicles I get and what trims or options it comes with.
Do they both require you to pay a monthly fee for the remote start? And no tow hooks like the other 6 Toyotas I have owned 😢
Yes and yes no tow hooks.
I actually like the analog gauges better
Tim or anyone please tell me the true overall height of the PRO tire, 32” or 33” ?
It's around 32 1/2". It's not a true 33" tire. It would look way better with true 33's. It looks phenomenal with 35's or 37's!!
I thought the MPG would've been far more skewed
Hey neighbor to the north up here in SD. You can get all the fancy screens, turn nobs for modes and 4x4, and hybrids all you want which I'm not against. It's just not for me. Ive just come to the sad conclusion I will never be able to get a new half ton truck when I can afford it. I dont want electric air dams, grill shutters, etc. Simple crank windows and shifters for this 33 year old.
Howdy. Sadly, good luck finding a new truck without the fancy tech.
Can you compare the TRD pro Tundra to the Silverado ZR2?
I’ll try. Pretty damn difficult to get those trucks together.
Non hybrid better? Did you calculate to see if this was correct?
I’m pretty sure the PRO got 22.5 while his Limited, non-hybrid said 24. I believe you are correct. That difference comes down to the added weight of the larger/heavier tires and no auto air dam up front. My guess is that’s 75% off the difference. The rest may be due to the extra weight of the hybrid battery pack that weighs about 600lbs.
Buying 1/2 ton truck and stressing about mpg is kind of dumb.
That says a lot about the buyer🤣!
Get the platinum Tim
TRD off-road for the win.
Are you driving the TRD in ECO mode? I'm only getting 14.8 mpg average
I never drive in ECO.
Did your average slowly increase with time? Mine has been stagnant between 14.5 and 14.8... I've only had the truck one week
@@kst338 mine was never that low.
Hahahaha I'm watching a video on two different Tundra trucks and UA-cam puts a commercial for the F150. Oh UA-cam!
LOL.
Of course you bought wrong BUT you
bought was available to make videos!! Now buy a TRD Pro and make more videos!!!
Can't buy a truck in North country without auto 4wd . Sorry toyota.
Ride could be difference in shock absorbers between the two.
Nice review.
Can you please do a video with platinum
If I find one I will.
Hey I own a SR5 2022 and can not get more than 19 mpg and I noticed that you get 23 mpg how you do that?
Stay off the gas pedal.
Jeje i drive normal 70 to 75 mph
@@mariomasters4862 it’s not the speed, it’s how fast you get up to speed.
The price for these trucks, all trucks, is ridiculous.
I have the CrewMax V-8 but I also have a Highlander Hybrid, it runs like a scalded dog, I had the non-hybrid version but the hybrid is way better. Oh, 2011 CrewMax 253K 😁
Without being able to add a brush/grill guard to the front the Tundra isn't on my list for a new truck now. I will probably just get another Ram Cummings.
You want to add a damage multiplier to the front of your trucks? Never understood why people put those dumb weak things that collapse when you strike a pillow. If you want a real bullbar, theres already a bunch of companies making winch capable bullbars for the Tundra. As for buying a Ram with a CUMMINS not Cummings, apples to oranges, bud. Nobody who uses a 2500 truck cross shops with a half ton unless you're just one of those posers.
@@CACressida Towing specs for my 2004 2500 Ram is about the same as the current Ram 1500 if not better. 1500 trucks have come a long way from my old Dodge 2500. The grill guard is mostly for going through pastures in Texas. It helps a lot with scraps, pushing small cedar bushes out of the way, etc.. on the front of the truck. Even the payload on the new 1500's are really good compared to my 2004 2500 truck. Just need some basic things that the Tundra doesn't seem to have. Hoping for the Toyota reliability compared to the dodge stuff around the Cummins engine. The Engine is great on my 2004 but the rest of the Dodge parts keep falling off :)
This dude loves hi bred!
The TRD Pro Engine Undercover is a single plated piece😅😅
TRD pro. Resale holds better and it’s unique. Not many tundras on the roads and you have a TRD Pro.
Tim is buying something with a diesel for his next truck. That’s my guess!
I wouldn’t buy a hybrid unless it got me another 5 mpg at least. More stuff to go wrong there’s already enough tech and twin turbos with problems. Hopefully a PHEV soon before they go all electric tundras
Regular engine has more than enough power for me,
trd pro is a buy
I wish they would bring these out to Australia. There is talk of it happening, but again Toyota wont build the truck in right hand drive, rather sending left hand drive trucks to be converted in a mum and dad factory, making the truck way to expensive for the average family. Silverado, Ram, are all between $120 grand Australian and $160 Grand Australian, these Tundras will sit the same in price.
You should stay in a midrange truck. Above limited model is fewer viewers.
Maybe I'm an outlier here, but I think the 2022 Tundra looks like a Taco on steroids.
Own the 1st Gen '06 D.C. 4X4, tried to love the 3rd Gen, outside is very nice but the interiors just GAWDY (JUST MY OPINION) and the MPG is HORRIBLE compared to mine. But the new ones I just CAN'T get into, Toyota really IMOP just messed up the whole look fo the truck. Could have done ALOT BETTER WITH THE EXTERIOR just see too muc CHEVY styling in it.
Thought it was just me who noticed similarities to the Chevy.
So no one is gonna do a test on that light bar in the grill at night? I’m guessing it’s crap so it’s just for looks like all the other Toyotas that run the Raptor amber lights in the grill.
I used the heck out of it on our off-road videos. It’s cool, but not omg 😎 - ua-cam.com/video/zz5T_qjyWk8/v-deo.html
Do you have to use premium fuel on the TRD PRO?
No.
TRD PRO!
The limited off road best price
TRD pro
You’re not going to bring water to the firefighters in Gering?
That fire was weeks ago now. They had tons of supplies to help with the fire.
all that extra HP and torque and it can only tow like 55 more lbs????
Towing isn’t only about engine performance. Lots of factors.
Only if you have money to spend and if you like it. I don’t have money for it
Is Toyota tundra for sure
Pro all the way, babe 😂
Trd pro!!!
You did all that and then you didn't fill the tank and get a real MPG measurement?
The pump wasn’t accurate at all so we cut that part out. Likely a faulty gas pump. I’ve been doing these tests for years and it happens more than you’d think.
@@Pickuptrucktalk I guess it happens.
Since you strive for accuracy. The 3 lights above the grill are NOT marker lights, nor are they identification lights per FMVSS 108…They are just bling in a blatant attempt to copy ford.
Ford could never!!! YODA Will always be number one.
k. u want a 🍪?
New fullsize truck are varying degrees of jokes. They're getting way too expensive, and keep getting lower and lower to the ground. No way would I would pay $70k for truck with 9" of ground clearance.
No one can afford new trucks anymore! 60 to 70K per truck.
You bought the right truck. TRD pro is not worth the money.
TRD Pro for the win!
Stock model and save money
Mostly cosmetic differences in reality...
Not a fan of this gens design. Very gmc-ish
Both truck have shockingly bad payload ratings for vehicles with 11k+ tow ratings. You couldn't fill the tanks again and do some math for the fuel economy? My vehicles' fuel economy gauges are never accurate, always optimistic.
These are over priced Toyotas. Who in the he'll is paying these prices. How about some production.numbers on the different models