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2022 Toyota Tundra TRD Off-Road vs. TRD Pro - You Pay More BUT Do You Really Get More?

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  • Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
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    ( tfl-studios.com/ ) Which off-road version of the brand new 2022 Toyota Tundra is right for you? Andre compares both the TRD Off-Road Package (on a Limited Hybrid) and the TRD Pro side-by-side to find out!
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    #Tundra #TRDOffRoad #TRDPro
    TIMESTAMPS:
    0:00 Intro
    0:24 "Silent" 2WD Comparison
    2:01 TRD Off-Road: Articulation
    5:30 TRD Off-Road: Ground Clearance
    7:23 TRD Off-Road: Mud & Speed
    8:36 Acceleration Tests
    9:50 TRD Pro: Articulation
    11:50 TRD Pro Pricing
    12:41 TRD Pro: Articulation (continued)
    16:09 TRD Pro: Ground Clearance
    17:17 TRD Pro: Mud & Speed
    18:28 TRD Pro: A note on its payload...
    19:06 Wrap-up: Which would I pick?

КОМЕНТАРІ • 401

  • @dalephillips8250
    @dalephillips8250 2 роки тому +50

    These new trucks...ALL of Them are being priced out of the market of most people. None of them are worth what they are asking anymore.

    • @joshp6024
      @joshp6024 Рік тому +6

      Yeah they are slowly getting rid of the middle class

  • @marcoamorales2297
    @marcoamorales2297 2 роки тому +76

    I feel that Toyota needs to set the TRD Pro apart more by adding a different bumper with more clearance and tow hooks and maybe larger more aggressive tires

    • @lordofreason549
      @lordofreason549 2 роки тому +9

      They need to have tow hooks on all trucks.

    • @Pippinm7
      @Pippinm7 Рік тому +1

      Totally agree!

  • @mini2nut67
    @mini2nut67 2 роки тому +20

    19/20/21 for the hybrid Tundra Pro is LESS than I expected. The $68,500 price tag is MORE than I expected.

  • @bellasky83
    @bellasky83 2 роки тому +13

    Andre, I just love your reporting/reviewing. You are so down to earth and realistic about your tests, as well as being entertaining. Thank you!

  • @markos9751
    @markos9751 2 роки тому +98

    I think Toyota dropped the ball with that low hanging front bumper, and no front recovery hooks.

    • @Mycameron2323
      @Mycameron2323 2 роки тому +8

      They know that anyone who actually off-roads doesn't run stock anything. There's literally already 3-4 bumper's

    • @davec.3198
      @davec.3198 2 роки тому +15

      @@Mycameron2323 Sometimes you off road accidentally and need the tow hooks. :-)

    • @Stuka87
      @Stuka87 2 роки тому +35

      @@Mycameron2323 No excuse for no front tow hooks on a "TRD PRO".

    • @markos9751
      @markos9751 2 роки тому +6

      @@Mycameron2323 true, however it would’ve been nice if they did something with the front end of the TRD Pro, similar to that of the new ZR2 Silverado.

    • @Eddy-09
      @Eddy-09 2 роки тому +8

      And the price

  • @treborheminway3814
    @treborheminway3814 2 роки тому +20

    20" rims on those off road package trucks is like Bugs Bunny eating a cucumber when asking Elmer what's up Doc. ...

  • @HeyyyMikeyyy
    @HeyyyMikeyyy 2 роки тому +9

    Reasons to not spend the bigger bucks on a TRD Pro and get a TRD Off Road instead...the Off Road can do 90% (I'd wadger up to 95%) of what the Pro is capable of for much less. Plus, you know the dealer mark-ups on the Pro will likely be nuts. So, if you're not going to be doing the faster desert running, just like the Pro was designed for, get the Off Road 👍🏻

  • @marcraymond7741
    @marcraymond7741 2 роки тому +70

    It is interesting that the Canadian TRD Off road package includes 18’’ wheels rather than the 20’’ US versions has. I much prefer the 18’’ option for off roading.

    • @lunamaria1048
      @lunamaria1048 2 роки тому

      Yup lol

    • @cuspin12
      @cuspin12 2 роки тому +11

      SR5 TRD offroad is 18" wheels, Limited is 20"

    • @Ben_Pede
      @Ben_Pede 2 роки тому

      And they are not even TRD wheels, just a black and machined face with a chrome Toyota emblem. Haven't seen a TRD Sport yet here, only SR5 and Limited so far

    • @dougreed736
      @dougreed736 2 роки тому

      @@Ben_Pede do you get the 360' off road view from cameras on the Canadian off road version?

    • @Ben_Pede
      @Ben_Pede 2 роки тому +1

      @@dougreed736 yes in the TRD Off Road package you get the Multi Terrain View monitor.

  • @rayrussell6064
    @rayrussell6064 2 роки тому +30

    Personally if they are going to call it a off road truck they need to put better tires on it and tow hooks. Keep up the good content and God bless you guys and as always be safe 👍

  • @caviman2202
    @caviman2202 2 роки тому +51

    I'd love to see a 2022 vs 2021 TRD OR test... wonder just how much difference the new platform makes.

  • @useryggfdcc
    @useryggfdcc 2 роки тому +46

    My pick will be the TRD offroad model. Get the Toyota lifted kit , install the aluminum skid plate and BFG KO2 tires.

    • @jbw5485
      @jbw5485 2 роки тому +6

      Good choice. I’m leaning that way also. I’m on my second tundra now. I had the K02’s. They performed amazing in snow and dirt. But when I was towing my boat or side by side, if the roads were wet, they would break traction easily from a start. I almost couldn’t be in tow mode because the tundra wants to go. And I tried my hardest to really really ease on the throttle. But they still spun. I’ve got trail grapplers now and I don’t have that issue.

    • @ramrider1453
      @ramrider1453 2 роки тому +5

      Don’t forget the tow hooks 😃😃

    • @jbw5485
      @jbw5485 2 роки тому +9

      @@ramrider1453 what’s everybody’s hang up on tow hooks? Looks? Seriously. When do you need tow hooks on the front? How often?

    • @ramrider1453
      @ramrider1453 2 роки тому +10

      @@jbw5485 Where I live it is a must. Right now I have over four feet of snow here in 🇨🇦. I do use mine a few times a year to help pull out people that are stuck. Also when I go to my lake where roads are not plowed regularly.It helps. So ya it is very important to me and others with my kind of climate. Plus in summer in certain off road areas it’s a must. That’s why so many people are frustrated with Toyota not having them. Wether it’s for looks or practicality.

    • @xspower21
      @xspower21 2 роки тому +10

      Don't forget to buy a real truck while you're at it, cause you would have to be gullible or completely ignorant to buy this sub par outdated truck that has zero innovation and literally went backwards in many areas, like now being worst in class in almost every category. Worst in class turning radius now, worst in class interior dimensions, worst in class in head room, visibility is worse due to the rake. So between the poor visibility and much larger turning radius this thing is noticeably harder to maneuver in every environment. Add in the seats are too short so they are uncomfortable, the entry handles are to small and prettyuch unusable. The interior lighting is still super dim, the tail gate is harder for egress/ingress then every other truck on the market include the previous gen Tundra, the iforce motor was already out paced by Fords, granted the difference was nominal, but think about that, it's a brand new truck that they had 15ys to make, but it can't compete with last yrs model, and overall this truck barely competes against 2020 models from the big three. Why did they put the crawl control right next to the cup holders where we all spill drinks and food, they had a ton a dash real-estate, so literally zero common sense there. The Sienna mini van has a 1500w inverter, but the premiere work truck from Toyota has only 400w that will barely power basic tools. That's just asinine! How about the poor payload capacity, nothing greT here, in fact the Ford Ranger has a ayload of 1904 and Tundras best is 1940, but most Tundra models are around 1600lb, that damn near the same as my 11 yr old Tundra, that just embarrassing. Why did they take all the storage space in the most capable off road version the TRD PRO, space is a premium when off road/camping and weight also an issue, but apparently these idiots didn't even bother to try and be innovative by putting the batteries under the bed like Rivian or be innovatiove and find a different place like between the cab and bed, or under the bed, but nope. Hell they didn't even bother to try and design extra storage like the ram power boxes. They could have at least give us the TRD PRO with the base model engine so it would be lighter and have plenty of storage space, but I guess that was way to complicated for the engineers to figure, but mostly likey they just didn't give a shit....I could keep going on as this piece of shit truck has an absurd amount of miss fires. Toyota should be embarrassed and only a gullible tool would buy one of these....and this is coming from a die hard fan who owns a Tundra and wanted to buy a TRD PRO in 2019, but wait 3yrs for this, only to be let completely let down

  • @stevieray1828
    @stevieray1828 2 роки тому

    Love these Tay-oh-taz!! Great work Andre!

  • @LifeBeginsOnTheWater
    @LifeBeginsOnTheWater 2 роки тому +3

    Great content, thanks for sharing. Both are beautiful & worthy trucks from the looks of at it.
    Billy D

  • @alexaguilar6446
    @alexaguilar6446 2 роки тому

    Just got my 2022 Tundra sr5 trd off road with the premium package and I love it

  • @nickknee3515
    @nickknee3515 2 роки тому

    0:25 Okay Elmer Fudd. LOL Keep up the great work Andre, you deserve a vacation nice long soon.

  • @OSkyFireO
    @OSkyFireO 2 роки тому +6

    it's actually a really easy choice to make since the odds of actually acquiring a TRD Pro will be *VERY* difficult.

  • @coreybatorski9626
    @coreybatorski9626 2 роки тому +35

    Andre working hard cranking out the content! Love the reviews great job 👏

    • @dancross3340
      @dancross3340 2 роки тому

      lol working hard !!
      driving around the woods
      in a borrowed truck.
      talking about 2wd vs 4wd
      he must have to go
      home and sleep
      for days to recover

  • @scotturich
    @scotturich 2 роки тому +7

    People will buy this because they buy Toyota but these trucks just don’t separate themselves from the competition

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 2 роки тому +1

      And that begs the question, is there really any way for any of the 1/2 tons to stand out anymore, it's down to hair splitting in the segment. If they push the tech or features too much they get too expensive even for what is already a very expensive segment.

    • @scotturich
      @scotturich 2 роки тому

      @@mrvwbug4423 I think Ford and Ram have done well to separate themselves, TRX, Rebel, 1500, Wt, Ford Raptor, Tremor, Wt; it just seems like Toyota and Chevy don’t won’t to cover the gamut like the others

    • @kain9407
      @kain9407 2 роки тому +2

      @@scotturich
      Toyota is primarily a car company. They don't sink anywhere near the r&d into the trucks that Ford or Ram do but they still make a great truck. Honestly Ford and Ram should be miles ahead of Toyota and they are not.

  • @ALMX5DP
    @ALMX5DP 2 роки тому +6

    6:36 I wonder who will be the first to put 2 cameras up front to try and provide/simulate depth perception. With the 3D displays being brought out, I think only time until we see that type of feature.

  • @DR-UTAH
    @DR-UTAH 2 роки тому

    These videos are so helpful

  • @mak450
    @mak450 2 роки тому +11

    That was some very interesting silent running...because it wasn't silent at all

    • @rondail5675
      @rondail5675 2 роки тому +1

      I don't like the fake electric noise. I feel I need some cheese with the whine! Quiet should be quiet.

    • @-Jethro-
      @-Jethro- 2 роки тому +4

      Yes, between the EV warning sound and the constant beeping from proximity sensors it destroys any sense of being in nature. Seems like these should be disabled in 4-low.

  • @alexadamson1322
    @alexadamson1322 2 роки тому +1

    I can't wait for this the review with this new TRD Pro, Chevy Silverado ZR2, GMC Sierra AT4X, and Ford F150 Tremor.

  • @dragongrips8095
    @dragongrips8095 2 роки тому +14

    Andre, completely miffed it bro. The line is, “I’m going to be very, very quiet…I’m hunting wabbits…”

    • @ROBinJVILLE
      @ROBinJVILLE 2 роки тому +1

      Haha I thought it was coming as well

    • @Cghv-88
      @Cghv-88 2 роки тому +2

      @@ROBinJVILLE Unless Andres parents were Soviet Diplomats stationed in the West , his upbringing was deprived from Elmer Fudd and company .

    • @ROBinJVILLE
      @ROBinJVILLE 2 роки тому

      @@Cghv-88 ahhh true. That's too bad lol

  • @ryandoyle4344
    @ryandoyle4344 2 роки тому +9

    TRD Pro 6260 = 7615 - 1355
    Raptor 5750, F150 hybrid 5400-5580, F150 Lightning 6171. Is weight not the enemy of efficiency??

  • @markrode7331
    @markrode7331 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome Andre.
    Andre : I’m going downhill with no pedal and pulls both hands off the wheel 😂👍🏼

  • @ChopperChad
    @ChopperChad 2 роки тому +31

    These new Tundras are really growing on me, but, they really need recovery hooks, auto 4wd, and a more appropriate tire/wheel package for the TRD Off Road version. Maybe another 1 or 2 inches of lift as well. I mean, it’s the Off Road model, right? Ford, Chevy and Ram all offer that. My F150 FX4 has the auto 4wd which I use whenever it’s rainy or not enough snow to go normal 4x4 high. Also when just casual cruising on dirt roads. Really enjoy your vids Andre!

    • @red6743
      @red6743 2 роки тому +2

      Not having Auto-4wd and the locker only being available in 4-Lo has been a deal breakers for me regarding Yota Trucks

    • @OscarSchneegans
      @OscarSchneegans 2 роки тому

      @@red6743 : Why would you lock the differential in 4 high?

    • @red6743
      @red6743 2 роки тому +2

      @@OscarSchneegans Makes for a much more...lively off-road experience when you're at speed. Breaking the rear loose etc.

    • @Skruteas
      @Skruteas 2 роки тому +3

      @@red6743 Sounds like a recipe for broken parts. You can mod it if you want. I don't bother because repairing ruins the day.

    • @OscarSchneegans
      @OscarSchneegans 2 роки тому +1

      @@red6743 : Got it. I just want a locking differential for getting unstuck, preventing from getting stuck, so I'd only use it in 4 low anyway.

  • @highplainsdrifter9849
    @highplainsdrifter9849 2 роки тому +25

    Still think Toyota needs to put the front end of the Sequoia on the Tundra. Looks way better.

    • @primalj_2a433
      @primalj_2a433 2 роки тому +7

      The sequoia is looking great. I will agree the tundra should have sequoia front end

    • @robertoramos8257
      @robertoramos8257 2 роки тому +2

      Idk why I can't seem to tell the big difference everyone is talking about looks basically the same to me

    • @allenbrandon1031
      @allenbrandon1031 2 роки тому +1

      It looks close to the old tundra… defeats the point

    • @ethanspruill7539
      @ethanspruill7539 2 роки тому +1

      kinda looks like a big tacoma

    • @ravensfootball52
      @ravensfootball52 2 роки тому

      @@robertoramos8257 it’s basically the same thing but they color match the trim and bottom bumper. The grill isn’t as big as everyone thinks but it looks bigger because they black out the bumper where it meets the grill

  • @dillonpritchett9594
    @dillonpritchett9594 2 роки тому +28

    Both seem hardly like off roaders. No suspension travel, low ground clearance and a long wheel base. Good for long highway drives and a dirt path to a cabin but I can’t picture this going up right logging roads for secluded camping. I’ll stick with my manual Tacoma

    • @useryggfdcc
      @useryggfdcc 2 роки тому

      A smaller narrow Tacoma helps a lot for tight trails. My 2021 Tacoma TRD 4X4 Premium with only 50 miles on it when off road and I end up on a very tight trail. The scratching noise was killing me but now I don't care anymore.
      Amazing that those Tacomas can do. The weight helps a lot too.

    • @vlad9999
      @vlad9999 2 роки тому +1

      Any inch (excluding ground clearance) or pound added is definitely a disadvantage, except if you actually need it

    • @smrtguy77777
      @smrtguy77777 2 роки тому +7

      This is true of any full size truck.

    • @bigslacker666
      @bigslacker666 2 роки тому +2

      OTOH you're not gonna put two dirt bikes in the bed and hook up a 6k lb travel trailer in your Taco to get to a desert staging area to set up basecamp and then go rip. No matter what the Tundra was never gonna be a midsized truck. It might not fit your use case, but it's nice to have the option.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 2 роки тому

      @@bigslacker666 Get the long bed on the Taco and it will do exactly that, will fit 2 dirt bikes, and tow a 6000lb trailer

  • @justinkraft6933
    @justinkraft6933 Рік тому

    I really like most of the new interior. I can foresee dirt, food, and grime getting into that transfer case selector switch however.

  • @hmong_keeb_kwm
    @hmong_keeb_kwm 2 роки тому +1

    TRD OFFROAD for me if I had to choose.
    Is a better price especially if you get it in the SR5 platform.
    It gets all the same off road system from the locking diff to craw control.
    You can get it with a proper standard 6.5 size bed.
    The last reason I don't purposely go offroad as a hobby like some people.
    The only time I would go off road is when I'm going hunting season or go ice fishing driving on the frozen lake.
    But most of the time I'm driving on normal road.

  • @jza80king
    @jza80king 2 роки тому +1

    Curious to know your thoughts on the turbo wastegate actuator issue going on. I've been following it closely on tundra forums.

  • @jecaron
    @jecaron 2 роки тому

    im leaning towards ordering.. Platinum with trd offroad package and Toyota factory 3" lift.. if i cant do platinum with 1794.. and trd running boards.. hybrid engine as well. cant wait to hear more.. BUT ZR2 is damn temping...

  • @satsitter
    @satsitter 2 роки тому +2

    I have an ‘05 Tundra with just over 100k miles. Love it and wish Toyota still made a smaller model Tundra like the first gen.

    • @Qfty
      @Qfty 10 місяців тому

      U mean like a tacoma?

  • @alt9874
    @alt9874 2 роки тому

    Are you able to turn-off the beeping of the proximity sensors?

  • @stioarfi1933
    @stioarfi1933 2 роки тому +4

    Good video. One thing you didn't mention is the road drive quality between Off Road and TRD Prod. You did an acceleration test, but which vehicle handled road bumps, road noise, pot holes the best? In addition to off roading, these will be used for daily commutes so how are they on the road? I heard that the TRD Pro may be noiser on the road due to the tires?

  • @redracerproductions
    @redracerproductions 2 роки тому

    Did you show the payload for the the TRD Off-Road or just the TRD-Pro? I saw the TRD-Pro was 1,355. I would also likely choose the TRD Off-Road because it likely has more payload and tow capacity.

  • @ndm8447
    @ndm8447 2 роки тому

    Will the 2.6 inch lift kit with 35s be available on the TRD Pro models as well?

  • @hoodieman04
    @hoodieman04 2 роки тому +5

    ill be looking for all the used Tundras being traded in. zero interest in a hybrid or turbo 6 truck

  • @rightlanehog3151
    @rightlanehog3151 2 роки тому +1

    Andre, Can you get the TRD Off-Road package with an 8 foot bed?

  • @scottsong20
    @scottsong20 2 роки тому +4

    I love the look of the TRD Pro!

  • @jcc9925
    @jcc9925 2 роки тому

    My TRD Offroad has 18-inch wheels. Not sure why it's difficult other than regional? I recall prior years TRD Offroad meant 18-imch and TRD Sport is 20-inch.

  • @huntershorizon1671
    @huntershorizon1671 2 роки тому

    Please drop the link in comment section,, in one of the video TFL guys says Jeep wrangler Rubicon doesn't have central differential lock, it's blinks on screen but in reality hasn't....
    Thanks 👍👍

  • @Bigbillyrayfan
    @Bigbillyrayfan 2 роки тому

    Can the beeps be turned off? Those alerts make me more nervous than anything.

  • @gatordunn
    @gatordunn 2 роки тому +5

    ill buy the one that comes with tow hooks

  • @hawk3331
    @hawk3331 2 роки тому

    Can you fit a 35" in the Trd Pros wheel well ?

  • @kevinduong771
    @kevinduong771 2 роки тому

    Which tundra model has the best on road comfort ride?

  • @WW-wf8tu
    @WW-wf8tu 2 роки тому +9

    Silent mode is not silent at all! I would rather hear the engines. Which sound great. To answer the question, yes you get more, but you don't need what the PRO offers over the OR. The extra $$$$ for the PRO to do the same thing the OR can do is a waste for those wanting to save $ and customize to personal tastes. The flashy logos and the bilstein is not worth it for me. I will take an OR with the KDSS and call it good. :)

    • @bettysmith4527
      @bettysmith4527 2 роки тому

      I had a hybrid Highlander and it would emit that noise when the engine was off, just so people can hear you coming, otherwise you could easily run someone over because they wouldn't hear your car coming.

  • @twoweeledsoto6072
    @twoweeledsoto6072 Рік тому

    When you buy a TRD Pro, does a spotter come included with the truck to help with ground clearance checking?😅 At a quick glance, it looks like there's only about a $4K difference between a TRD Pro and a Limited equipped like a TRD? I think I'd pay the $4K for the wheels and suspension, as well as resale value.

  • @michaeljordan6090
    @michaeljordan6090 2 роки тому

    I am looking at a limited with the TRD off road package

  • @lunamaria1048
    @lunamaria1048 2 роки тому +1

    Silverado ZR2 is coming?... Wow looks great!

  • @krasnaludek298
    @krasnaludek298 2 роки тому +2

    If we factor Chevy & GMC as separate products, then the Tundra will be 5th place in sales (in the full-size segment). I’m amazed that you guys are giving the Tundra so much air time, given it’s lack of competitiveness. Almost leads me to believe that these are paid promotions & that’s fine - you guys deserve whatever income streams you can field.
    All these videos confirm that Ford & Ram will outsell Toyota by significant margins; the GM twins too.

  • @crisbalzano4578
    @crisbalzano4578 2 роки тому +1

    Did I miss something? The TRD Pro doesn’t have front hooks?

  • @djkly1
    @djkly1 Рік тому

    I notice that Toyota TRD Pro does not give the Hard Tonneau Bed cover accessory like they do on all the other trims, does anyone know why this is? Or is it because they think that if I could spend $70k+ on a truck that I can buy my own hard tonneau cover which is actually more expensive aftermarket wise..?

  • @farmerjoebrown2189
    @farmerjoebrown2189 2 роки тому

    Offroad models should offer better 18” wheel options. Cmon toyota were trying to be loyal customers! Looking forward to durability tests of the new drivetrain! Thanks guys

  • @sersan1317
    @sersan1317 2 роки тому +4

    My 21 trd pro lr just went up in value after seeing the 22 trd pro. Not impressed with the price tag, mpgs, towing, and or payload, hybrid was suppose to better the mpgs, all that extra horsepower and torque for what reason to go 2 mph off road, if i wanted to race I would buy a sports car. Nothing to see here, let's wait for the next generation.

  • @larh0379
    @larh0379 2 роки тому

    I think you meant for Ford tremor not raptor for off-road but admit really like the TRD PRO

  • @CraigSmith568
    @CraigSmith568 2 роки тому +4

    I'd go with the Tacoma Off-Road.

  • @lewiswatchorn7239
    @lewiswatchorn7239 2 роки тому +3

    Did I miss the tow rating on the Pro? According to Toyota specs, the payload of the pro is much higher than listed in the door, so are they also overstating the tow rating on their website? People who want to tow a little heavier than a Raptor or TRX might be OK with a Pro if it has closer to 10k capacity but likely not if it is comparable.

    • @shazmodeus2795
      @shazmodeus2795 2 роки тому +1

      The payload capacity on the spec sheet is for a bone stock version with the absolute best suspension springs. When the truck gets built, it might get some mid-tier springs based on luck of the draw. Then you start throwing on modern vehicle options: your giant infotainment screens, your enormous heavy plates of glass on your roof, your powered everything, etc, etc. And thus your trucks remaining cargo capacity goes from 1800 to 1355.

  • @luisfont6140
    @luisfont6140 Рік тому

    What about the TRD Sport vs TRD Off Road?

  • @sven_the_giant
    @sven_the_giant 2 роки тому

    I would immediately replace the front bumper on the trd pro and get an ADD bumper when it's released

  • @chiosaeteurn9790
    @chiosaeteurn9790 2 роки тому

    How many pound does the SR-5 model weigh ?

  • @HANS-tb4me
    @HANS-tb4me 2 роки тому

    Is there a noticeable difference between HV power plant and naturally aspirated power plant power wise?

    • @HANS-tb4me
      @HANS-tb4me 2 роки тому

      I guess my question is it really worth additional $3.5

  • @Nosaj-dt1ij
    @Nosaj-dt1ij 2 роки тому

    Andre needs a cowboy hat with the theme music and terrain. It may be in California, but I think it’s NorCal, so the hat still works. Lol.
    Also, spec sheet for Pro released today says something different than what you read off the door panel for payload etc. Is it possible that’s because those are pre-production models?

  • @PeakDecline
    @PeakDecline 2 роки тому +15

    Toyota has a loyal buyer base who are going to eat these up... but frankly it feels like Toyota is lagging behind the competition off-road. 20" wheels on the TRD Off-Road must be Toyota's idea of a sick joke. The TRD Pro not having either a front LSD or front locker puts it behind Ford and GM (a real shame since Toyota offers a front locker in the LC300, which shares the same platform as the Tundra). The approach angle is poor due to the new Tundra's chin... and apparently Toyota can't be bothered to design a high clearance front bumper for its off-road trucks... a thing every other brand does. The ground clearance seems behind Tremor, Raptor, ZR2, etc. as well. No recovery hooks on an off-road trucks? See to me this tells the story... off-road was not a top priority, they were still designing with MPG in mind for the TRD Pro... The new Tundra seems like a great on-road option... but these off-road trims are not competitive.

    • @fritty9927
      @fritty9927 2 роки тому +4

      I think your right. But keep in mind 95% of the peps who get that kinda truck don’t go off road, they just like the look. Toyota may have taken that into consideration

    • @PeakDecline
      @PeakDecline 2 роки тому +4

      @@fritty9927 Seems to lag the competition from the perspective too. No high clearance bumper, no visible skid plates, no recovery hooks, etc. which are all hallmarks of the modern "off-road truck." Toyota has changed the grill pattern and color matched some bumper pieces but its otherwise the same exterior shape as the lower trims. Plus since the TRD Pro will only be available with the hybrid and a top spec interior its going to be priced near a base F-150 Raptor. Which it can't compete with in either off-road performance or sheer street presence. Honestly my feeling is that Toyota simply knows they have more than enough brand loyalist to sell every TRD Pro (usually with a mark up) they can build and therefore the costs to actually compete in off-road performance isn't worth it.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 2 роки тому +4

      For the type of off roading you will do with a stock 1/2 ton they're fine. Full size trucks are too big to fit on jeep trails, and anyone serious about a pre-runner type truck for desert wheeling is not going to use a stock suspension, they're going to install a long travel aftermarket setup and likely go up to 37 inch tires. Though I do agree the pro should have a front locker or LSD, frankly the pro is a rip off just like it's always been, $10,000 premium for $1500 in parts, but if you care about resale you pony up anyway since TRD pros appreciate

    • @fritty9927
      @fritty9927 2 роки тому

      Being the largest and most reliable auto manufacturer in the world has its advantages. Seems their strategy is a good one. I don’t remember them asking for a bail out from the govt likecGM and the now defunct Chrysler.

    • @PeakDecline
      @PeakDecline 2 роки тому

      @@fritty9927 This is hilarious. The Japanese government pours billions into it's auto industry as a national policy.

  • @Georgejoseph74
    @Georgejoseph74 2 роки тому +1

    surround cameras are becoming very common..do they work well at night??do they have any night time illumination??towing or attaching trailer at night, any chance you can make a video,plzzz???

    • @jbw5485
      @jbw5485 2 роки тому

      I’m really liking that feature also. I noticed some lights in the rear bumper at the hitch area. I’m serious if those are to aid in hooking up a trailer at night.

  • @mr2gud2u
    @mr2gud2u 2 роки тому

    Look at that flex with the sway bars still attached!

    • @KeithKacanek
      @KeithKacanek 2 роки тому +3

      Lol, what flex?

    • @mr2gud2u
      @mr2gud2u 2 роки тому

      @Keith Kacanek haha it's not that bad for the stay bar still being attached. Look how the rear wheel tucks up into the bed.

  • @lutomson3496
    @lutomson3496 2 роки тому

    what about gas mileage between the 2? inquiring minds want to know

  • @dancross3340
    @dancross3340 2 роки тому

    is the limited as pricey as the Pro ?

  • @World.Explorer101
    @World.Explorer101 2 роки тому +6

    I was really rooting for the 22 TRD Pro but I think I'm leaning towards a Raptor now we will see I guess

    • @Eddy-09
      @Eddy-09 2 роки тому +2

      I’m on the same boat. I didn’t think it would even be close to Raptor pricing, since it’s not even close to Raptor status, and they decided to charge MORE than the Raptor? Toyota v screwed up big on pricing.

    • @gerritvonholt2330
      @gerritvonholt2330 2 роки тому +3

      @@Eddy-09 Huge tundra fan, but not sure why I wouldn't by a Raptor instead

    • @Eddy-09
      @Eddy-09 2 роки тому +1

      @@gerritvonholt2330 There’s legit NO reason other than slightly better MPGs. To me personally, that’s not even close to enough. Even $60k starting would’ve been too much for the Tundra TRD pro, it can’t even keep up with a $53k Tremor.

    • @MichaelOrton
      @MichaelOrton 2 роки тому +1

      I was waiting for the new Tundra but lucked upon a like new 2018 with 20k miles, still under extended factory warranty even. I have zero regrets about not waiting. The Raptor really is in another league.

  • @Silverback_GMT410
    @Silverback_GMT410 2 роки тому +3

    It blows my mind why Toyota has an issue with giving people a locking diff.

  • @ghostchicken69
    @ghostchicken69 2 роки тому +2

    If you have the money then the TRD pro is the way to go.

  • @duggydo
    @duggydo 2 роки тому

    That beeping would drive me insane.

  • @bobbygriffin5658
    @bobbygriffin5658 2 роки тому +8

    Surely I'm not the only one that wishes they had 6.5 bed on the trd pro....

    • @ughmas
      @ughmas 2 роки тому +3

      Kind of defeats the purpose and hurts all your departure angles and turning radius off roading

    • @primalj_2a433
      @primalj_2a433 2 роки тому

      No you aren't

    • @bobbyb.1743
      @bobbyb.1743 2 роки тому

      Yep, I’d very much like to see the 6.5 as an option

  • @normt430
    @normt430 2 роки тому

    "...Chevrolet Silverado1500 Hybrid is the only hybrid in the full-size truck segment. Compared with comparable, non-hybrid models, it delivers 33-percent greater city fuel economy and a 23.5-percent improvement in overall fuel economy, all with the capability customers want in full-size truck - including a 6,100-pound (2,767 kg) trailering capacity.
    Estimated fuel economy for both 2WD and 4WD models is 20 mpg in the city and 23 on the highway...." GM Media with a larger 300-volt battery and 6.0l V8 circa 2012!

  • @RoyAcosta
    @RoyAcosta 2 роки тому +1

    I'm somewhat sad that technology is taking the fun out of old school 4x4 daily use. Rock crawling was not a daily use nor a concern in my days. Just get out and enjoy the fun on having to do it all with friends.

  • @emorse912
    @emorse912 Рік тому

    The Pro interior looks better than the limited/platinum with TRD option. I prefer the darker dash paneling.

  • @brettmichael9570
    @brettmichael9570 2 роки тому

    Witch one is Best?? 2021...next question!

  • @jeffreycuellar241
    @jeffreycuellar241 2 роки тому +1

    I would def go with the TRD OR, pro is a waste of money, it’s only good for resale value, it’s a nice truck, but the TRD OR has all the capabilities the pro has, would love to have the 1794 with the TRD OR package

  • @mattdagger1480
    @mattdagger1480 2 роки тому +3

    No front locker makes it a hard pass for me

  • @veasnakoy
    @veasnakoy 2 місяці тому

    58k for the hybrid limit with Panoramic moon roof and TRD package? Where can i find that in S. California? That is a steal.

    • @veasnakoy
      @veasnakoy 2 місяці тому

      I would be lucky to find a simple limited with either the TRD package or Panoramic moon roof for 64K

  • @KTMcaptain
    @KTMcaptain 2 роки тому

    I’d would be nice if someone would make electric motor kits for existing vehicles.

  • @chauncey_vw5015
    @chauncey_vw5015 2 роки тому +4

    Would the Ford F-150 tremor be a better comparable to than the Raptor? Really enjoy Andre comparison videos!

    • @Eddy-09
      @Eddy-09 2 роки тому +1

      Raptor is the big boy while Tremor is the little brother, and this TRD pro can’t even keep up with the Tremor, much less Raptor. Can’t even hang with the Tremor in pricing.

  • @Offroad_Outdoors
    @Offroad_Outdoors 2 роки тому

    If you had $65,000 dollars and were looking for a do it all truck (work: drive around 2,000 miles a month, hunting/camping, other hobbies) and wanted a 4 door with 6.5ft bed, which truck would you be purchasing????
    Ford with powerboost or 2022 Toyota Tundra???
    Or is there another truck you would prefer?!
    Thank you for your time! I am looking forward in hearing your opinion!

    • @Eddy-09
      @Eddy-09 2 роки тому +1

      The Ford Tremor is priced MUCH better than this and is also more capable. Let’s not even talk about how much more capable the Raptor is, it’s even cheaper too.. Toyota is crazy for pricing this so high.

  • @jonathansandoval5858
    @jonathansandoval5858 2 роки тому

    Love me some TFL videos but as a midwesterner hearing "tAyota" is painful! Andre, youre still awesome tho

  • @MiguelPalaviccini
    @MiguelPalaviccini 2 роки тому

    Wait, the SR5 w TRD off-road package comes with hybrid power train option? I don’t see it on the Toyota site. Game changer.

  • @morningdrums
    @morningdrums Рік тому

    I had thought possibly of getting the tundra but not sure what trim. but I don't care about the high speed of the vehicle. Just a good hunting, camping rugged truck

  • @willya.gaters8645
    @willya.gaters8645 2 роки тому

    Price?

  • @ivanalandzak2521
    @ivanalandzak2521 2 роки тому

    What’s the point of the locker if you can’t use it unless in 4 low. Just another miss.

  • @ohioguy4326
    @ohioguy4326 2 роки тому

    It's not terrible but it needs 4wd auto, tow hooks and swap the front end for the new Sequoia front end.

  • @SJDJFJFSKSXNDJWJQI
    @SJDJFJFSKSXNDJWJQI 2 роки тому +2

    Or just wait for gmc at4x and get a front locker as well and a v8.

  • @harlandurant7014
    @harlandurant7014 2 роки тому +1

    So he said to wait for a zr2 to come out. 2 lockers, best suspension and cheaper. Plus the chevy will have 4wd auto in the transfer case. I wonder how putting an exhaust on that hybrid going to work out lol.

  • @alexpuls8219
    @alexpuls8219 2 роки тому +4

    6200 lbs?! That’s a heavy truck!

  • @user-cg5yp7pi3e
    @user-cg5yp7pi3e 2 роки тому

    A question: Do you make this Andra's pickup in America? Is there a company in America? Answer me, my love 🌹♥️

  • @xanderman3759
    @xanderman3759 2 роки тому +1

    Has Toyota addressed the waste gate issue's these Tundras are having?

  • @wtfchazpwnt
    @wtfchazpwnt 2 роки тому

    Love the tundra content but the use case comparison for trd offroad vs trd pro was frustrating to watch. The host spent like a minute saying that the trd pro and offroad are for different purposes and therefore are tuned differently. We were never told what the differences in tuning are. Just that they are different brands which means nothing.

    • @wtfchazpwnt
      @wtfchazpwnt 2 роки тому

      He just said that they are different brands. Not any actual specs or figures.

  • @jay34183
    @jay34183 2 роки тому

    Sounds pretty good for a v6

  • @Snappydadshoes
    @Snappydadshoes 2 роки тому +3

    66 grand and the same MPG as a tacoma (in 4x4)? What the actual hell, Toyota?

    • @Eddy-09
      @Eddy-09 2 роки тому +1

      Agreed. Way over priced.

  • @mckinney6059
    @mckinney6059 2 роки тому

    Oh we all know the after market bumpers are gonna have some

  • @JH-mt3pp
    @JH-mt3pp 2 роки тому

    We rent Jeeps in the Ouray, Colorado area for off road trails. This truck or any others in it's class are way too big to have fun on those trails.

  • @dancross3340
    @dancross3340 2 роки тому

    The tires on the off-road are the slightly smaller than the TRD off road tacoma
    those are to small for truck that size.