Genesis - Undertow - Piano Sheet Music + PDF
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2020
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It's scored, surprise surprise, using Sibelius 7.5
The piano part was created in Presonus Studio One v4.5 using Modartt’s Pianoteq 6 CP-80 Electric Grand piano and processed thru ERS’s Dim D chorus and FabFilter’s Pro Q2 to tame the piano’s upper ’tizz’, remove the slight lower-mid ‘honkiness’ and boost the bass a bit.
The Yamaha CP-70B. Tony’s live and, to a large degree, studio piano of choice from 1978 thru the 80’s.
It first appeared on “…Three” and is very much to the fore on “Duke”. It’s also the mainstay of his first (and, for me, best) solo album “A Curious Feeling”.
At the time, there was no way to get an acoustic piano sound when playing live in a rock band unless you mic’d up a real one on stage which was an expensive and very awkward proposition if you did a lot of touring as Genesis did and didn’t really make a lot of sense unless the acoustic piano was the absolute main centre of your keyboard rig.
Tony had been making do with an RMI Electrapiano for the last 4 or five years for live use, but the CP-70B (and it’s bigger brother, the CP-80) was a game-changer.
It’s kind of like a real grand in that it has actual strings which are struck by hammers but thereafter the similarities grind to a halt.
If you’re really interested there are a couple of good articles about the CP Electric Grands online. Google (or DuckDuckGo) is your friend :)
Nevertheless it has a unique character and Tony (and Peter Gabriel - check out ‘Wallflower’ or ‘Red Rain’ amongst many others) would process theirs thru a Boss CE-1 chorus pedal to give it some added depth and lushness.
So that’s what I’ve done here. The Dim D plugin simulates a Roland Dimension D which was a rack unit that was used by tons of artists in the 80’s. It’s more subtle than the CE-1, but it’s my chorus unit plug-in of choice (along with TAL's Chorus-LX which I almost used instead) and it sounds great on an Electric Grand style piano! :)
Anyway, I’m really pleased to have put this one up as I personally think it’s Tony’s finest ’short’ (still nearly 5 minutes though it doesn’t feel like it) song though ‘Many Too Many’ on the same album ain’t bad either :)
Copious performance notes in the PDF.
Have fun! :)
You are providing a valuable service. Very much appreciated.
Thank you so much for doing this transcription! It’s a joy to play! I’ve yearned to play this song on the piano for decades, but was always too lazy or overwhelmed to completely figure it out. And yet today, playing this music is a reality!!! Good things can still happen in our world...
Thank you. "...And Then There Were Three" (1978) is my favorite album of all time, I'm a keyboardist, and this is an absolute treasure.
You're welcome 👍 I'm planning on possibly doing Many Too Many but would like to use Phil's original vocals (like I've done elswhere for Phil & Peter).
To do this I need a copy of the 5.1 DVD (preferably converted to a .mkv file using Handbrake).
I've got all the 5.1 mixes up to W&W as evidenced by my other videos but nothing later than that album.
So... I don't suppose you'd happen to have that version of ATTWT as it's your favourite album 'n' all? 😏
They're going for £40, if you can find them, which is a bit out of reach as I do this for free and already have several normal CD versions.
@@ElektrikHob Unfortunately no 😏, I only have the 2007 Remastered CD and the 1994 CD.
@@julianmarlin6438 Not a problem 👍
I was reading the other day, a guy was begging you for this score. Congratulations!! You re a great musicean! ( aplausse)
Yeah, that would probably be me! :-)
JOE Now l know your name you can also ask for " Say it is allright Joe" score, also from Then there were three ;)
@@minty_Joe Indeed. I'd planned on doing it sometime but your request bumped it up the order :)
Glad you suggested it as I'd almost forgotten how amazing it is!
I remember when I bought "And then there were 3", listened to it a little, and then set it aside. It went clearly straight over my head at the time. However, in recent years, it has become one of my favorite Genesis albums! I think the songs are exceptionally well crafted and executed, and the album is really full of good, strong songs! Nice job on the transcription also, EH! Thank you for sharing.
Though not my favourite album, I know what you mean. The band had always wanted to write good pop songs and on this album they'd really started to condense things well.
Like it or not, Follow You Follow Me is a great pop song and Many Too Many is classic Tony but tightened up to 3 and half mins.
Of course there are still a couple of 'classic' numbers (Down and Out & Burning Rope) that could've easily fitted on Trick or Wind if they'd been written earlier.
Talking of Burning Rope... ;)
I was put onto this site just today and I am completely overjoyed. LIke a lot of people I could NEVER find good transcriptions of Tony's playing and this is a treasure trove! I've copied some PDF's but I don't know how I'll ever learn them all. I'm so thrilled I get to try, in earnest. Thank you so much!! And if you ever feel like putting out some Curious Feeling tracks like Waters of Lethe, (the whole album actually) I'd be ecstatic.
Don't know about the whole album, but Lethe is a prime candidate and, considering the Genesis track I've just done and what I said in the above description about "...Feeling" being my favourite TB album, you'll not be surprised at one of the two tracks I'm currently working on... ;)
Fantastic ! The section from bar 31 is one of my all time favourites and you nailed it !
Yeah, the Chorus really is majestic! Hints of Rachmaninov to my ears :)
@@ElektrikHob Tony was a fan of Rachmaninov!
@@ElektrikHob Perfect! Great Job! Measures 27 through 30 definitely have that Debussey Arabesque, No. 1 vibe. XD I hope Tony is watching and can give his blessing or even his input on these great translations.
@@dukestravels1861 Indeed. He used to play (as did I) R's Prelude in C# minor while still at school.
@@ElektrikHob - Same here.
Absolutely brilliant. My next project to learn by heart! Thank you!
This is so awesome, love it. Wish there were more people to appreciate TRUE music.
Yet another superb transcription. Thanks again for sharing 👍👍
Than you very much for your hard work. The transcription is perfect and the electric piano sound is very much like Yamaha CP80.
I am sure your excellent job will help people learn this gem more easily.
Amazing Job!!! Thank you so much 🙏👍
Oh my God this is so beautifully transcribed! I am a flutist who is really bad at piano but learning this is going to be my life's mission this year. Thank you SO much for making this available, I am so impressed with your work and the generosity with which you share it!
Thank you and good luck with your piano playing :)
Just out of interest, how have you been getting on with this?
After a solid month of off and on play, I just perfected this on my grand. Amazing sound that gives me cold chills. Thanks for putting this together! 🎉❤🎉❤
You're welcome; glad you've made great use of it 👍🙂
Awesome! More stuff from Trespass and Nursery Cryme would be amazing too!
Very special!
Thank you. Can't wait to try playing this. Sounds great through my Tribit too :)
Great, well done & thanks!!
this is wonderful, bravo and thanks for doing this. Also, I was surprised how Pianoteq got so much better at emulating the CP. So far, I find that Addictive Keys does the trick very well. Too bad I had to sell my CP70, but I shall have another one some day! :-)
Thanks ..thanks... thanks 👍👍😊
Sublime! Do you do this all by ear?
In a word, yes :)
I envy anyone who can do this by ear. I had too many gaps in my study to develop the skill. So, I can read music quite well, I can sing in tune (I just cannot sight-sing to save my life,) but discerning intervals and figuring out chord progressions... nope! It all has to be written down.
Thank you so much for putting your talents to getting this amazing music "on paper".
@@ImieNazwisko-fu4mi You're most welcome :) Glad you're enjoying the transcriptions.
Awesome! A little love for "And then there were three"!! I'd love to see a transctiption of something from Duke haha.
Was a Boss CE2 what Tony used with the Yamaha piano?
I always thought he might have used a Boss CE1, way lusher than the CE2 or other chorus pedals i've heard.
You're quite right, it was the CE-1. Description updated. Thanks :)
@@ElektrikHob I mean i'm not certain! Hahaha, i just thought that if Tony used CE-1's in the past (Wind & Wuthering Tour on the Hammond and the RMI i think) he maybe kept them for the Yamaha, not needing to acquire new chorus pedals :)
Tony's use of the chorus on the Yamaha piano, and the Mxr phaser on the organ have always amazed me to the point of acquiring the same phaser (model) for my organ haha.
What's your favourite Genesis period? (or album, etc)
@@joaquinvelazquez913 The Steve Hackett era is definitely my favourite, though I really like Trespass too of course :)
But unlike many Gabriel (or Hackett) era fans I've seen commenting around UA-cam, I don't dislike their stuff from "...Three" onwards - apart from Calling All Stations...!!
70's and 80's Genesis are in many ways different beasts but there's still Tony's way of writing and the chords he uses (plus Mike's writing contribution) that links both periods.
Phil obviously wrote more in the 80's but, like him or not, he certainly knows how to write a great pop song!
I had a look online and it seems that it almost certainly was the same CE-1 chorus that he'd been using on the Hammond T102 organ for a couple of years.
With regards organ sounds, I've got to be honest and say I REALLY hated the phaser & chorus combination on the Hammond as exemplified by Seconds Out! :)
Give me a Leslie (or even a simulation) any day of the week! Of course, decent simulations weren't around in the mid-seventies, only the real thing.
I suspect that Tony ditched the Leslie he used previously simply because it was a hassle to cart around on tour and the phaser/chorus did an Ok job. He seems an eminently practical sort of person...! :)
Plus, he's always seemed to me to prefer having a sound that's unique to him and that swirly organ sound certainly was one-of-a-kind..! :)
@@ElektrikHob That was a nice answer, regarding the "Gabriel vs Colling Genesis division" I like to think of it like you. Me, being a TONY fan, i try to appreciate how his compositions developed and evolved throughout the years (I recently watched the 1992 live video on their channel, and realised We Can't Dance songs are pretty beautiful!!). My favourite Genesis period is the "early collins" from A Trick to the tail to Duke.
It's ok for me, haters gonna hate, but you know it as well as i do. They sure did know how to write great pop songs with a kind of "complexy" element to it!!
So it indeed was a Boss CE1, nice. Really i think that Tony may have only used it combined with the phaser in the '77 tour. Afterwards (as i just hear it, and read) he used only the Phase 100 with the organ, not combining it with chorus anymore (those maybe went with the Yamaha). But of course i, and my ears, can be wrong.
Yeah i can understand that the Phase 100 with his Hammond made a pretty overwhelming sound and may not be pleasing to many ears. I just happen to love it hahaha. I find that it suits Tony's liking of "block chords" better. Although real real leslie must be a thing to behold. And yeah, i too think that he may have ditched them for practical reasons. It's evident by now that Tony really doesn't mind THAT much about sounds, but rather practicaity of gear (i'm very sorry to say this but i really dislike his 2007 sounds haha!!)
@@joaquinvelazquez913 100% agree with your comment about his 'gear pacticality over sounds' live approach.
How else could you explain ditching the Mellotron for that Roland Vocoder..! Afterglow on Seconds Out - AWESOME!! on Three Sides Live...
I've read that Tony really liked that vocoder, but I've used both (I used to own Steve Hillage's old Mellotron M400!) and, as with the Leslie in my previous comment, give me the Mellotron every time! :)
Love "Trick" and "Wind" as much as anything they did with Peter. I've said elsewhere that it it was Steve's departure that had a much bigger effect on the band and I truly believe that.
I think that "...Three" has some really great songs as does "Duke" with it's 'Albert' songs : "...Lines", "Duchess", "Guide Vocal", "Turn..., "...Travels", and "...End".
"We Can't Dance" is a fine album too. For me, "Hold On My Heart" is one of the most beautiful tracks they've ever done :)
Nice Job Hob!!! :D have a transcription of dukes travel?
It's amazing what you're doing here. I'm not an expert with sheet music, but your work gives us boost to try and learn stuff from scratch (audio files are also helpful, of course). I'm playing a lot of ATTWT lately and I wonder if it's in your plans doing a Many Too Many transcription. I have a sheet music book downloaded somewhere on the internet which includes the score on Dm, but my ears tell me it's on C#m... Unbelievable mistake, since it appears to be an official book. Anyway, thanks for this wonderful job... Sometimes keys can be buried down in the mix, but you can pull this stuff off. Keep them coming!
Your ears do not deceive you; it IS in C#m :) I'm afraid that most, if not all, of these 'official books' are generally pretty poor. It's the main reason I post these videos/transcriptions.
These books are NOT written by Tony or anyone else in the band. AFAIK, they are done by transcribers that work for the publishing companies.
I suspect that these transcribers have FAR less time than I do to go into the minutiae of what Tony is playing or what I believe the overall effect of what he's composed is meant to be in the cases where I don't just transcribe his keyboard lines (Man Man Moon and Firth of Fifth being good examples of the latter).
I suspect they used Dm as it's a lot easier for a beginner to grok how to play a piece in that key :)
Anyway (they say she comes on a pale horse), I expect I will put up a MTM transcription at some point - probably in a similar style to this video - as I do play it for pleasure myself.
I agree with the Many Too Many transcription being done...that song and Undertow are my favorite songs from this album.
it's the best version, thx
Wow. I'm poring over all of this borderline weeping. I've wanted to get transcriptions of this stuff for years and have struck out. Thank you so much for all of this.
One question though... will you be doing Burning Rope?
Watch this space (as in, channel)... ;)
very cool, tks. one of these vids , amateur novice here, would love to see your hands doing this. :-)
I'd love to see Anyway from you👌
It's on my list, fairly high up too :)
Fantastic!! Would you consider doing a piano tutorial of this song so we can see exactly how it’s played please?
If by tutorial videos you mean where you see my hands playing the piece and I explain how each part is played etc.then that's not possible as I don't have the video equipment for that. Even if I did, I don't really have the time to do that and to be honest, the PDF with the score should hopefully be enough.
If you were to get say the score to a Debussy piano piece, you could hardly watch him playing it... 😂
I'd've hoped that the score itself (combined with knowing really well the original Genesis recording) should be enough 🙂
@@ElektrikHob ok fair enough thank you for responding
Thanks for sharing this piece. Have you ever considered Dorico for your transcribing?
I have looked at it, and it does look an excellent program, but my workflow means that I can already do everything I need by using Studio One for how these videos sound, Sibelius for how they look and finally Final Cut Pro X to make the actual video.
I've been doing it this way for so long that it doesn't seem worth changing now, especially as I use Studio One for so much more than just these videos :)
I guess that if you only wanted to have one scoring program to do everything in, including making it sound good as well as look good, then Dorico is probably better than Sibelius.
@@ElektrikHob You have mastered it, not an easy task at all. And you have mastered these Genesis tunes you generously share with us. I am nearly done with the Cinema Show and Solo you shared. Its a nice thing to be able to play the music which is so beloved by me and so many others. I've listened to transcriptions over and over.