Fun game, nice end with sayyadina. Just think that r6 could have been played better with shifting to interstellar (which in itself was a nice find). Why not go for double intrigue by bene bump from shipping -> down bene and double up? Especially after getting cull as first card. Saves the fremen point and actually gives you chances to steal fremen alliance as well or at least take the water bonus which is v useful for sayyadino. Yuna had no easy way to overtake you on bene anyway, she just used her in the shadows too. gg and thanks for upload!
@@cheesable I'd agree normally but here the upside seems too big to turn down, and there's almost no risk. Yuna would need a triple bump - she has no double bump options other than ITS which she has just played. She has no spice, no intrigue and no shipping bumps. Would she really even try against a player with kwisatz and shifting when she also wants to focus on combat next round, and actually also has a better shot at stealing fremen?
Very nice play final round, I was thinking something similar but with sietch instead of still suits one time, would that have had same end points but an extra troop?
Oh sorry yeah you needed 1 fremen bump but ended up with 3. I thought you could change 1 still suits play with seitch but you needed the spice as well and all the spots were occupied so it wasn’t possible
Very nice. 😊 Alternate line! What about instead of Imperial Basin you go Interstellar Shipping last round? Very smart btw to go for Sayyadina instead of SMF, I didn't think about that. Cheers!
no deploy from interstellar would have put him down 2 swords. I was looking at lines involving getting a second water and using kwisatz to go research station, but that wouldn't have been enough to win the combat either, since he wouldn't have had the spice to pay for private army.
With second wave, interstellar shipping actually is the better line. Good spot, but I think the critical thing to identify in the winning line is sayyadina
After picking up Sayyadina my instinct would have been to get Windtraps over Sonic Snooper. Did you feel that you wouldn't get enough value from Windtraps? What in your mind would have been the break point for Windtraps to be worth?
Sayadina is a strange card. Hmmm I didn't think of sayadina with wintraps tbh. I prob need to reconsider. I don't really like multi step plans. I prefer straight forward ones. And sonic is that
@@cheesablefor sure Sayyadina can be strong... but it can also mess with your game. If you're not careful, you can lose early tempo trying to save water for victory points instead of going to Research Station for a big buy or Great Flat for the spice you need for a key tech or Heighliner.
Yes, round 4 is very late to acquire a card and expect to see it often. You often have a bloated deck already, whereas when you get it early you can aggressively trim it down
Fun game, nice end with sayyadina. Just think that r6 could have been played better with shifting to interstellar (which in itself was a nice find). Why not go for double intrigue by bene bump from shipping -> down bene and double up? Especially after getting cull as first card. Saves the fremen point and actually gives you chances to steal fremen alliance as well or at least take the water bonus which is v useful for sayyadino. Yuna had no easy way to overtake you on bene anyway, she just used her in the shadows too.
gg and thanks for upload!
Hmmmm. I have learnt that going for risky r6 are not worth it. Risky round 7s are. But I'll need to rewatch everything to fully evaluate thid
@@cheesable I'd agree normally but here the upside seems too big to turn down, and there's almost no risk. Yuna would need a triple bump - she has no double bump options other than ITS which she has just played. She has no spice, no intrigue and no shipping bumps. Would she really even try against a player with kwisatz and shifting when she also wants to focus on combat next round, and actually also has a better shot at stealing fremen?
Very nice play final round, I was thinking something similar but with sietch instead of still suits one time, would that have had same end points but an extra troop?
I needed the fremen friendship!
Oh sorry yeah you needed 1 fremen bump but ended up with 3. I thought you could change 1 still suits play with seitch but you needed the spice as well and all the spots were occupied so it wasn’t possible
@@Tarquinnn I also need 2 fremen influence to go to sietch to begin with. so have to stillsuits first, but yes. then needed the spice
@@cheesable sorry I’m being even dumber the I thought! Thanks Cheese
Very nice. 😊
Alternate line! What about instead of Imperial Basin you go Interstellar Shipping last round?
Very smart btw to go for Sayyadina instead of SMF, I didn't think about that.
Cheers!
no deploy from interstellar would have put him down 2 swords.
I was looking at lines involving getting a second water and using kwisatz to go research station, but that wouldn't have been enough to win the combat either, since he wouldn't have had the spice to pay for private army.
With second wave, interstellar shipping actually is the better line. Good spot, but I think the critical thing to identify in the winning line is sayyadina
After picking up Sayyadina my instinct would have been to get Windtraps over Sonic Snooper. Did you feel that you wouldn't get enough value from Windtraps? What in your mind would have been the break point for Windtraps to be worth?
Sayadina is a strange card. Hmmm I didn't think of sayadina with wintraps tbh. I prob need to reconsider. I don't really like multi step plans. I prefer straight forward ones. And sonic is that
@@cheesablefor sure Sayyadina can be strong... but it can also mess with your game. If you're not careful, you can lose early tempo trying to save water for victory points instead of going to Research Station for a big buy or Great Flat for the spice you need for a key tech or Heighliner.
I just did same play to get kwisatz in like round 3-4 and didnt drawed him in entire Game
Yes, round 4 is very late to acquire a card and expect to see it often. You often have a bloated deck already, whereas when you get it early you can aggressively trim it down
Is memocorders not something thar would make hou consider Nmenon?
It is, just not in 3rd position, maybe in 1st or 2nd position