How Elon Musk thinks | Walter Isaacson and Lex Fridman
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Guest bio: Walter Isaacson is an author of biographies on Elon Musk, Steve Jobs, Einstein, Benjamin Franklin, Leonardo da Vinci, and many others.
Elan is a murder. We all know about him turning off star link
He is not as smart as you think 😅😅😅😅😅 he is good actor😅😅😅 EM is good administrator 😅😅😅
Visualising things is so powerful. Walt Disney called it imagineering - in his mind he visualised exactly how his theme parks would look, down to the position of every tree. Stephen R. Covey in his book, 'The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People" pointed out that for every object ever invented, there was always the first creation - the idea in someone's mind, from a humble toilet to a Boeing 747, before they became real; the 2nd creation. Albert Einstein himself said that to try and get his head around space and time, he visualised himself sitting astride a photon of light as if it was a Harley-Davidson and then riding that photon around the cosmos. The equations followed from his idea, his visualisation.
It’s funny because I’m realising this is how I work in my field and a director to my small team. I dont know how else to do my job it’s always visualising, right? 🤔 that said sometimes I see smth the product could look like and I’ll execute it over maybe 100+ mini steps over maybe an hour and almost *not* look at it until it’s done. (We make apps and sites)
I'm reading Walter's book on Elon. I recently finished his book on 'The Innovators,' which was amazing. He is such a fantastic writer and biographer.
‘Making the machine is easy. Anyone can make a great car. Making the machine that makes the machine is what’s hard’
Quote by Riley Reid from the book
"My 43rd interracial gangbang"
Profession by Isaac Asimov (1957)
One great example of how Musk thinks is in Tim Dodds video where he tours the Starbase with Musk and they discuss something about the Raptor engine. Tim curiously asks why some design decision was made and Musk immediately stops, thinks for a few seconds and goes along the lines of: yeah why not, we should take a look at that.
Todd then comes back 3-6 months later. And he mentions that they made that change. Not scared to innovate or delete.
link and time frame to this video?
Walter Isaacson is a joy to listen to, you just want to let him keep talking. I'm not a book person, but this book seems so fascinating to me, I'll surely pick it up soon, and then his other books.
Amazing interview! Thank you for this
I started to read the book about Elon. As a journalist I would have given a major key to the biography, focused on Elon's creative victories, despite all the hardships that are already behind him, and not on savoring the negativity of life that every earthling has.
Did Walter talk about the conflict with the first Tesla cofounder criticising Elon for telling everyone he was the founder of Tesla when it was actually someone else?
Einstein said " Imagination is more important than knowledge". Elon undestood that perfectly!!
Thanks to share your knowledge with us Lex and Walter 🚀🚀🚀
I'm actually curious, has Elon Musk ever read any of Walter Isaacson's books? Like the Steve Jobs one? Does this kind of thinking come from reading biographies or is it inherent?
Yeah he also recommended Benjamin and jobs
Sauce: google it
Musk doesn't read books.
Books read him.
There is collusion.
These interviews give me so much hope for my genius, yet challenging son. 🙌🙏 Blessed that he is surrounded by two genius fathers, yet being a mom to a highly intelligent kid feels like a roller coaster ride.
Isnt this way of thinking a sort of ASD approach? Reminds me of how temple grandin could visualize the way slaughterhouses could be through the eyes of cattle
My opinion Elon Musk sees things outside the box creative mind , he likes to save money where he can and definitely he surround himself with very smart people a team of intelligence, hard worker he exposed the idea and together they all make it happen.
I worked at Apple in 1984 in what was at the time one of the most automated factories in the world building the first Mac in Fremont.. My job was to keep everything running. Steve Jobs also shared this obsession/passion regarding manufacturing similar to Musk's. It really was one of the keys to his success which of course completely benefited Apple as they took off from there.
Elon seems to possess a sensitivity to how the people around him present their ideas such that I would guess there might have been many who felt a very odd hesitation considering explaining the mechanical functions of a joke.
Elons not smart
what is Picasso doing on the podcast???
In this interview: Einstein, the man that revolutionised the way we understand the universe, and Elon Musk, the man that told his employees to make it work with 4 bolts.
I think he’s trying to give an example that everyone can “visualize” it’s one of many reasons he’s a master of his craft. The whole clip they talk about how to boil down the idea to be relatable for the rest of us savages; wouldn’t serve to talk about complex solutions most people have zero experience with.
😂 I'm laughing at your comment and also your way of thinking
Been rejected for Tesla internships 3 times already bruv
@user-zz5je1ry1o naw I’m already with Deliotte, doing motion graphics I do freelance at times, but I don’t like overload of work.
The Tesla internship was for concept art design.
Very hard to get into, I was competing with like 4k people
Really Interesting, thank you!
"LLMs... that's fine if you want to chit-chat with your chatbot"
😂😂😂
There is no such thing as "visual thinkers" or "non-visual thinkers". There are just thinkers. Show me the science or it doesn't exist.
How sensitive Jayco class c motorhomes are to Ford cab chassis.
Model year change in transmissions tail shafts causing a vibration built 500+
He's not bringing up the REAL problem with LiDAR which is when the supplier changes the hardware it means many many branches of iterations to the stack to match each rev of the hardware. Turns into a nightmare. I see his point but wonder if Walter talks about it.
Elon seems to conquer fear by being audacious.
It's clear Walter has learned a lot from Elon.
Walter can travel between dimensions now.
He can levitate he iPhone with his mind.
He's learned to channel his Avatar State.
elon is wrong about "vision only" approach. Humans don't just drive based on vision. We use our ears, we feel the road and we use our instinct. Elon has never read Waymo's code, so he is talking out of his butt. People should stop making claims without facts. A camera only approach clearly has limitations and Tesla fitted several cars with lidar to help improve computer vision.
I get why Elon has to remove other sensors to reduce cost and get the team to focus on pure vision approach. But as karpathy stated FSD seems easy, but it's much harder than you realize.
I also think ultimate goal would be to make autonomus cars even safer than the best drivers so augmented sensing would be better here, although it is indeed expensive.
In summary, How Elon Musk thinks:
-self-driving technology is grounded in \"first principles\" thinking and a willingness to adapt and evolve as new insights and technologies emerge, with a strong focus on Vision-only solutions.
-focus on end-to-end control and visualization in manufacturing and product development is a key factor in his innovative approach, similar to Steve Jobs' approach at Apple.
-vision for Tesla's evolution encompasses a shift towards real-world AI, and fostering innovation requires adventurousness, iterative thinking, and a willingness to take risks, even in the face of potential failures. Musk's legacy may ultimately be tied to his contributions to AGI and real-world AI.
- Elon Musk's approach to innovation involves emphasizing end-to-end control in manufacturing and product development.
- Musk's ability to visualize manufacturing processes and understand the physics behind them is a key aspect of his problem-solving approach.
- Musk's insistence on having his designers work near the assembly lines allows for a seamless transition from design to physical production.
- This end-to-end control approach is in contrast to the traditional outsourcing of manufacturing, which Musk believes is detrimental to innovation.
- Steve Jobs also emphasized end-to-end control, ensuring that Apple's hardware and software were tightly integrated to create a cohesive user experience.
- Musk's shift from outsourcing to in-house manufacturing at Tesla exemplifies his commitment to end-to-end control and innovation.
- This approach has allowed Tesla to make rapid advancements, such as developing in-house autopilot systems.
- Elon Musk advocates for removing sensors that are not rich in data, like radar, to make self-driving technology more AI-friendly.
- His approach is rooted in \"first principles\" thinking, which involves starting with fundamental physics and questioning the necessity of certain technologies.
- Musk believes that humans drive primarily with visual input, and there's no physical law that prevents self-driving with vision alone.
- While he faces pushback and challenges in meeting self-driving deadlines, Musk remains committed to the idea of Vision-only self-driving.
- He acknowledges the potential benefits of technologies like lidar but emphasizes the need for scalability in self-driving systems, which Vision-only solutions can achieve.
- Musk's pursuit of full self-drive includes the development of a robo taxi, a car without a steering wheel or pedals, intended for autonomous summoning.
- Initially, Musk's team focused on rules-based coding for self-driving, but they are shifting toward AI-based solutions using machine learning, learning from Tesla drivers' experiences.
- This transition represents Musk's willingness to pivot and adapt his approach based on evolving insights and technology advancements.
- Musk's approach resembles confidently exploring a dark room with a clear vision, adjusting as new discoveries and challenges arise, ultimately evolving and improving the technology.
- Elon Musk envisions Tesla's transformation from a car manufacturer to an AI and robotics company, emphasizing the importance of real-world AI in self-driving technology.
- This evolution represents a shift towards a broader vision of AI, embodied in systems like Optimus the robot and self-driving cars.
- Musk's approach to innovation requires several key elements:
- Adventurous spirit: Innovators must be willing to take risks and venture into uncharted territory.
- Iterative brain cycles: Continuous learning and feedback loops are essential for refining ideas and technologies.
- Risk-taking: Innovation often involves taking risks, and the willingness to embrace failure is crucial.
- Musk cites examples like SpaceX's early rocket failures to illustrate the importance of embracing risk and learning from setbacks.
- He points out a potential challenge in modern society, where there may be an overemphasis on caution, regulation, and risk aversion.
- Musk's legacy may extend beyond space travel, with real-world AI, such as Optimus the robot and self-driving technology, being significant contributions.
- While AI like language models has its merits, the ultimate goal is artificial general intelligence (AGI), which involves tackling the complexities of real-world AI.
“We have more referees than we have risk takers.”
In house?
Jayco how do you run out of in house made parts when the others take the same parts.
completely negates the emyth or military idea of creating an org structure and removing yourself from the day to day operations. I wonder how he makes this work.
Who painted the snowman?
he fails to mention that Google is many years working on self driving cars on real world, collecting all kinds of data. And Google dominates IA like no other competitor.
Rex and Walter.. 2 👍’s UP⚡️ just say’n🤓
Everybody watching this video: "Oh, yeah, I think like that too!"
No, we don't.
We're not that evil or stupid.
He is more like Edison of our generation
You meant Tesla. Not edison😂
Wheres the Tesla type scientists
Living mechanism known as Derek Bentley
Whoa whoa whoa why did he call left handed people handicapped 😭😭
Sale brakes first what you waiting on
Life or death?
F1 racing DRS/KERS working principles in a Tesla is a Tesla with NO charging stations or cord Four wheels return productions into a 2nd power pack
Tesla is half ass so is SpaceX
Jeez, to put together Leonardo, Albert...and Musk is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Mr Lex
I'm 99.69% sure lex is Bruce Wayne
Light Speed Rockets sent down a electric rail then flown
Amén 🙏🏽
Engineering or engineers in rvs or campers most just design. Having 0 real world workings or knowing
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The GoDs have spoken: it's ok to be disruptive my dear =)
this guy was trashing elon musk on CNN
Floating hydro paddle wheels no more dams
Elon Musk thinks like Kanye.
More like Kanye believes he thinks like musk actually does
Like a moron?
Both great believers in engineering
Except he doesn’t think out loud like Ya
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Elon is such a liar
Which part?
He thinks "who can i fire and who can i F?"....
Musk ain't no Einstein or DaVinci......seriously. One of Musk's employees is an Einstein or Davinci.
Perhaps it takes a greater genius to pool together a team of geniuses?
He's better.
Absolutely right
How do you know? Just one example to compare three man
@@raywang7551 does his tunnel idea come to mind? Hahaha. That's the only thing he can claim is all his ideas.
How much do you think you make a year running pr for Elon lol
Whats next? What Elon Musk trinkst of Air… Please just marry Elon Musk!
He would just divorce Musk, cause Elon is non-charismatic.
I called dibs on marrying Elon Musk next.😡Me! Not you.❤❤❤❤
He really likes Elon
Haha
Two things that the world will thank Elon for in 100 years:
The cars have pushed the envelope and vastly accelerated the development of battery technology, in terms of energy density, throughput (charge and discharge rate) stability and reliability. This means that we now have affordable battery storage capacity that is more than enough for the energy needs of the average family home, regardless of the energy source.
His other gift to humanity is a science-based economic model based on getting sh*t done rather than merely profiteering. There's not enough room here to explain that fully, but suffice to say that Elon is the exception that proves the rule that billionaires are essentially entitled parasites.
I disagree, I think battery tech would've advanced with or without Elon, it was progressing before he had anything to do with them and will continue to do so, his input was minimal.
"His other gift to humanity is a science-based economic model based on getting sh*t done rather than merely profiteering."
Are you mad? You don't become the richest man on earth without some profiteering... He bought Tesla for less than 7 million, overhyped driverless cars that could make you 30k a year as a driverless taxi, a blatant lie and as being constantly just around the corner for about the past 10-15 years. This saw the market value of Tesla reach absurd levels, it was worth more than all other major car manufacturers combined whilst selling less cars than most individually... Then when the bubble of false promises started to burst, he cashed out billions from Tesla despite previously telling investors his money would be the first in and last out... Then when the bubble burst some more, he cashed out 10's of billions and bought twitter. $7mill in $50 bill out so far...
Don't get me wrong Tesla should have made him rich but not nearly as rich as it did, that was off the back of false promises and was arguably criminal just like with Elizabeth Holmes but perhaps not quite so morally bankrupt as she was messing with healthcare.
To summarise I don't think time will be kind to Elon Musk, his many many false promises or ridiculous ideas will eventually be shown for what they are, many already have like his tunnels, the hyperloop, driverless cars, electric HGV's "ready today" 3-4 years ago, Space rockets replacing commercial flights... Non of that was "science based" it was just silly hype to raise some money. It all should've been shot down from the very start by people who know what they're talking about, experts in those fields.
This entire interview seems to be less about Walter Issac, and seems to be more about Elon.. Lex interviews over time have tend to be become more and more of a PR exercise for Elon.. Jezz give it a rest... there are other scientists and engineers all over the world great things and not just fking Elon..
Aha... Elon is a pseudo science salesman
He’s not that meticulous. Have you ever seen the welds on Tesla frames. Pretty terrible. Not to mention the customer service. What a nightmare
Putting Elon, Einstein and Da Vinci in the same sentence is next level fanboying
It's moronic, Einstein changed how we see reality, Da Vinci was a genius at a multitude of things and was way ahead of his time but to compare him to someone in todays world is a bit silly... Elon is a genius at overhype and being a conman with some lucky breaks thrown in...
He had a head start that most of us can only dream of, followed by a lucky break when he was fired from what would become paypal for incompetence but retained shares, so when it became paypal he became very rich.
After that the vast majority of his wealth is attributed to the overhyping of driverless cars that could make you 30k a year, being just around the corner... This lead to the value of Tesla reaching absurd levels, where it was worth more than all other major car manufacturers combined whilst selling less than nearly all individually... Then when the bubble started to burst he cashed out billions, when it started to burst some more he cashed out 10's of billions and bought twitter...
Space X e.g people Elon hired, have done some impressive things, but they are guilty of silly overhype too, they claimed they were going to replace commercial flights with rocket ships in 10 years, that is laughably absurd.
Other than that it's just daft ideas, the hyperloop, tunnels, electric HGV's "ready today"... It's all drivel.
Einstein, Feynman, Maxwell... These are true geniuses, Musk is an idiot in comparison.
Keep crying
@@FalconMasters 🥱
@@88Cardeyu too
@@FalconMasters What would you say is the predominant flavour of Elons ringpiece? BS?
I think that’s kinda the way Donald Trump thinks
Power means when one is cruel to those in no position to retaliate or reciprocate and be exalted in life and death.
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