Two Rock Traditional Clean vs Classic Reverb Signature - Tone Comparison with Strat and ES 335!

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  • Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
  • 00:00 Intro
    01:24 Strat Clean without reverb
    02:06 Strat Clean with reverb
    04:15 Strat and Jan Ray
    05:43 Strat and Looper Jam
    08:12 Strat with Centura and Duellist
    09:20 ES-335 Clean
    10:47 ES-335 and Centura
    11:48 ES-335 and Looper Jam
    13:12 ES-335 Looper Jam with Centura
    14:29 Final remarks
    15:18 Vultures track Jam Trad Clean
    16:07 Vultures track Jam CRS
    16:55 Shuffle Blues Jam!
    Amps: Two-Rock Classic Reverb Signature and Traditional Clean.
    Guitars: Fender Custom Shop 1961 Strat with JM Rolph pickups, and Gibson Memphis ’63 ES-335 Reissue.
    Pedals used: Vemuram Jan Ray, Ceriatone Centura, KingTone Duellist.
    Recorded with UAD OX directly to Logic Pro X. Using reverb from amplifiers.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 24

  • @TheToneGeek
    @TheToneGeek 3 місяці тому +3

    Wow I couldn't believe how different they are once you engaged the Jan Ray! Great video! I might need to get one of those amp head switchers too! My Radial Engineering one seems to be having an issue.

    • @argbluesman
      @argbluesman  3 місяці тому +1

      Indeed! The differences accentuate with an OD pedal!

  • @user-pr5eo2gj4p
    @user-pr5eo2gj4p 3 місяці тому +4

    Nice video!Looking forward to CRS Vs Vintage Deluxe please❤

    • @argbluesman
      @argbluesman  3 місяці тому +2

      I wish! But I don’t have a vintage deluxe 😅

  • @BrandonMarsella
    @BrandonMarsella 3 місяці тому

    Awesome video. To me the TC really sounds dialed in for more single coil tones. I'd be interested to see a video where you dial in a tone on each amp that you really like and then try to match it with the other. Seeing how the tone knobs are set with respect to each other would be useful I think.

    • @argbluesman
      @argbluesman  3 місяці тому +2

      But these are different amps. To me it makes little sense to want to match the amps tones with each other. They sound different. In fact in these videos I set the amps so that in the room they have similar amount of bass, treble, etc. These two amps can’t match the tone of the other one. They’re just different. Similar. But different enough.

    • @BrandonMarsella
      @BrandonMarsella 3 місяці тому

      @@argbluesman I'd be interested to know the tone stack settings if this was as close as you could get them.

    • @argbluesman
      @argbluesman  3 місяці тому

      @@BrandonMarsella I’m away from the studio. But I believe if you watch, at some point I must move so that I leave the amps exposed and you can see. But again, I fail to understand what the purpose would be. It’s not that copying the stack settings will give you the tone you’re hearing in the video really.

  • @jasong220
    @jasong220 3 місяці тому

    Wow. Great job! Nice to have such a fantastic comparison of these two juggernauts. Sounds to me that the TC has a low to low mid focus and the CRS has a high mid to high focus. Wanted to ask 1) Is there a reason you chose the blackface gain structure on the CRS for this comparison? 2) Is the TC capable of brighter, chimeier highs than what you have it set for here? Thanks!

    • @argbluesman
      @argbluesman  3 місяці тому +1

      Hi!
      1) because it was the most even comparison between the two amps, while still revealing the differences.
      2) absolutely. There’s still treble to add, still a bright switch to add, and presence to add. Plenty of highs available here.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @ew6629
    @ew6629 3 місяці тому

    I thought maybe I'd have different preference when a strat is played versus the 335. I sure like the clarity of the Classic Reverb whether single coil or humbuckers are played. The preference margin is so very very small including the TS1. As I've said before, I'd be happy with any one of the 3 Two Rock amps you've demonstrated! 👍

    • @argbluesman
      @argbluesman  3 місяці тому

      Thanks man! Indeed, all of them are great. But this traditional clean man, those cleans are heavenly together with that reverb! It’s impossible to demonstrate the reverb in a video. It’s amazing how it fills the room.

    • @ew6629
      @ew6629 3 місяці тому

      @@argbluesman Yeah, I use really high quality headphones whenever I watch and listen your UA-cam videos but I suspect it can't replicate what you hear directly in the room as you play it. You're a lucky man Federico to have the option to play 3 magnificent sounding amps! Always appreciate your videos man. The combination of great tones and fantastic playing makes your channel my favorite to watch.

    • @argbluesman
      @argbluesman  3 місяці тому +1

      THANKS 🙏

  • @markblock5602
    @markblock5602 15 днів тому

    close, but sounds like the CRS has more depth and vibe and sparkle.. The TC seems less compressed and I do prefer a bit that at times, but the sag and bloom of CRS is seductive never-the less. I have a CRS and wouldn't switch based on what I hear here.. A lot of the forums rave at how much better the TC is, and how they all switched over, but I'm not hearing that here - quite the contraire

    • @argbluesman
      @argbluesman  13 днів тому

      Yeah. I agree. The thing is that most people buy the TC because of the John Mayer thing. This amp is the Mayer signature platform. But it can do much more than that of course! And I see what you mean. People saying any amp is “better” just makes no sense. They are different. No amp is “better” than the other one. They are just different.

  • @BluesRunnerJFQ
    @BluesRunnerJFQ 3 місяці тому +1

    El Tradicional Clean es el que se parece al John Mayer Signature?

    • @argbluesman
      @argbluesman  3 місяці тому +1

      En casi todo. Es el mismo circuito con algunos tweaks (un poquito más brillo).

  • @ParanoidDaveOsbourne
    @ParanoidDaveOsbourne 3 місяці тому +1

    Will you compre them with two rock gain structure too?

    • @argbluesman
      @argbluesman  3 місяці тому +1

      I don’t think I will. To me the blackface was the most even comparison. I’ve read people saying that the traditional two rock gain structure sounds like the traditional clean. Nothing farther from reality. The fact that they refer to it as traditional two rock makes people associate that with the traditional clean. Nothing like that. Completely different, different circuits.

    • @ParanoidDaveOsbourne
      @ParanoidDaveOsbourne 3 місяці тому

      As I suspected. How does Classic Reverb compare to SSS btw? Kinda same but SSS is “bigger” or completely different?

    • @argbluesman
      @argbluesman  3 місяці тому +1

      @@ParanoidDaveOsbourne they are different. The 100w sss is cleaner, more refined. It’s difficult to explain. But they are different and more so the 150w I would expect. That’s something the CRS can’t replicate. But the CRS is still an amazing blackface derivate on steroids, in a nutshell.

  • @jasoncheshire6153
    @jasoncheshire6153 2 місяці тому

    I bought the Traditional Clean because I wanted to save 1200 bucks. I recently played the CRS at the Dallas Guitar Show and i thought, oh man, I made a mistake!! You do a great job of showing the difference on here. The CRS is just a little more sparkly. If you turn up the presence on the TC, will it sound similar to the CRS? I know the CRS has the contour control on it so not sure if it is a presence or what exactly. Is there a pedal I could put in front of my TC that would make it more CRS??
    Thank you!!!!

    • @argbluesman
      @argbluesman  2 місяці тому

      well, not really. They have some things in common but they are different in its core honestly. I’ve been playing both more intensely and they while they are blackface style, the CRS is much more blackface. The cleans of the tc are quite different. Not sure what you use. I use a Jan ray, quite transparent, a Klon clone, and a tube screamer based pedal (the kingtone soloist). Interesting to hear with each amp. Indeed the traditional clean is a bit warmer or rounder in some frequencies.