This is by far the best review and guidance for the Hack Motion. I've been frustrated and disappointed with mine for the reason you mentioned as the first downside. The device doesn't know what the rest of your body is doing. If you don't have that right then good luck getting into the ranges that the software wants you to be in. Now that I've gotten some in-person instruction and corrected a lot of the body mechanics it might be time to revisit the device. My swing tends to have little wrist movement. I'm typically low teens with my extension at address, flat at the top, and plus or minus 5 at impact. The software seems to want me to have a much larger difference between extension at address and flexion at impact. To me that requires to much manipulation and doesn't seem to be the right thing for me to do. Thanks for getting more in depth. I'll give this a go again.
That's actually very reassuring, as a pupil of yours. One American President, opined "When you're through change, you're through!" and so, as a coach, that's great!!! The other quote to consider, is from Theodore Roosevelt, who said "When you're going through hell, keep going!". Brilliant! And a further quote "Unlike my review at the beginning of the year, there's no quick fixes in this game" SAS someone November 2024 ! Absolutely Simon!!! Thats great, actually! I can think of nothing better than to have a coach who is forever "growing" that's how it should be! Why? Because your students will grow with you! I'll be back after Christmas!
I’m ordering one of these now. I have recently started to lose some distance and I think it’s cause of cupping my wrist so this should hopefully get me back on track.
At my age, I will be 60 in a few months, a swing that doesn't put stress on the body is key, I need to able to walk off the 18th green and if necessary play the following day, not crawl off the green and need 2 days to recover. I have spent the last 3 years with a coach trying to change 45+ years of bad swing habits. When the swing is that ingrained it takes a lot of time to make the changes stick and you have to accept that your results, in terms of ball flight, will get worse before it gets better. If the hackmotion device can speed up the process of getting changes to stick then it is worth it. Cost is the equivalent of 2 or 3 lessons so ask yourself this question - how often does your coach have to repeat the same lesson in slightly different ways for a change to have a chance to stick? In my case more than a few, I guess I am a slow learner
Could you give tips on how to still manage to get out of the "cup" when you overswing and get down to the desired position? I'm trying, but I can't find the right way.
I pulled the trigger on getting the core version. Gonna work on my swing over the winter and hopefully lose less balls next year. 5 dozen a season is brutal.
I would start with the core level to be honest mate. What I used for the majority of my practice. Will be using the pro data a lot more this year to further my swing and as you say upgrade in the future. 👍
@ Really appreciate the advice! It’s great to hear that the Core is enough to get started with. I’ve spent a lot of time getting my backswing in order but I can feel my wrist angles breaking down in the transition - hoping this helps
Great review, was thinking of purchasing but not sure having watched this. 13 handicap , but cupped wrist like you described. Driver carries about 220 but seeking consistency rather than distance. Problem is I’m 55 so mobility not going to improve. Would you recommend for someone of that profile?
Thanks for the message! Wrist mobility is crucial for this device. Obviously you have got down to a good handicap, so you will be able to get the feeling well with it. But if your body physically can’t get in that position then it won’t help. That being said I have seen a lot of clients gain flexibility in certain areas by stretching them out frequently and that in self has gained them a lot of consistency and power. Happy for you to face time me next week and can screen you mate. 👍
Hi Simon been a while watch all your stuff, love it, this is more than intriguing , so youre advocating a kind of "Stack and tilt"?> with a bowed wrist at contact?Or have i missed the point, please explain for us old dumb numpties??
Thank you mate, To be honest I wouldn’t recommend any particular style for anyone and depends what that golfer can physically work with. However the main focus for me is reducing the amount of forearm rotation I have in the downswing as was way to high at one point and having a flatter wrist position has definitely helped that. You can over do this move also! Hence why my ball flights become much lower and without my speed be difficult to get the ball in the air. Film your swing mate and email it to me and can have a look. 👍
As an amateur who hasn’t taken any lessons would it be better to just suck it up and take let’s say 10 lessons or just buy this? Great content as always by the way!
How long have you been playing? I would say lessons first so you can have someone diagnose what your biggest faults are. However it is very good at giving a lot of correct feelings. My only concern is without a few lessons first you might lose confidence quickly with it, thinking you’re not doing it correctly when the shots aren’t going where you want them to. But in fact you are practicing the correct positions. Hope that makes sense mate.
It’s definitely a bit of money. But for the tech and how much you would have to use it to see a result I think it’s good value. Plus you can practice at home with it through the winter months. But completely understand your perspective mate. 👌
Literally searched for your original review over the weekend as have the option of purchasing one. Thanks for the update!
No problem mate! Hopefully this video gives you a good idea of what to expect!
This is by far the best review and guidance for the Hack Motion. I've been frustrated and disappointed with mine for the reason you mentioned as the first downside. The device doesn't know what the rest of your body is doing. If you don't have that right then good luck getting into the ranges that the software wants you to be in. Now that I've gotten some in-person instruction and corrected a lot of the body mechanics it might be time to revisit the device. My swing tends to have little wrist movement. I'm typically low teens with my extension at address, flat at the top, and plus or minus 5 at impact. The software seems to want me to have a much larger difference between extension at address and flexion at impact. To me that requires to much manipulation and doesn't seem to be the right thing for me to do. Thanks for getting more in depth. I'll give this a go again.
Thank you Douglas!
That's actually very reassuring, as a pupil of yours. One American President, opined "When you're through change, you're through!" and so, as a coach, that's great!!! The other quote to consider, is from Theodore Roosevelt, who said "When you're going through hell, keep going!". Brilliant! And a further quote "Unlike my review at the beginning of the year, there's no quick fixes in this game" SAS someone November 2024 ! Absolutely Simon!!! Thats great, actually! I can think of nothing better than to have a coach who is forever "growing" that's how it should be! Why? Because your students will grow with you! I'll be back after Christmas!
I’m ordering one of these now. I have recently started to lose some distance and I think it’s cause of cupping my wrist so this should hopefully get me back on track.
I bought one, looking forward to using it and improving and enjoying golf more due to more success
Fantastic instruction , having had 1 lesson with you , I can now see some real direction of where we are going
Thanks Lee! 🙌
At my age, I will be 60 in a few months, a swing that doesn't put stress on the body is key, I need to able to walk off the 18th green and if necessary play the following day, not crawl off the green and need 2 days to recover.
I have spent the last 3 years with a coach trying to change 45+ years of bad swing habits. When the swing is that ingrained it takes a lot of time to make the changes stick and you have to accept that your results, in terms of ball flight, will get worse before it gets better. If the hackmotion device can speed up the process of getting changes to stick then it is worth it. Cost is the equivalent of 2 or 3 lessons so ask yourself this question - how often does your coach have to repeat the same lesson in slightly different ways for a change to have a chance to stick? In my case more than a few, I guess I am a slow learner
Could you give tips on how to still manage to get out of the "cup" when you overswing and get down to the desired position? I'm trying, but I can't find the right way.
I pulled the trigger on getting the core version. Gonna work on my swing over the winter and hopefully lose less balls next year. 5 dozen a season is brutal.
Get it back out mate, use it often and little, so not to get burnout with it. Want it to gradually feed into your real swing. 👌
hope you do get back out and play some tournament stuff, be good to see
I’ve been thinking about buying this but not sure which price point but it seems like you can always upgrade from the core level
I would start with the core level to be honest mate. What I used for the majority of my practice.
Will be using the pro data a lot more this year to further my swing and as you say upgrade in the future. 👍
@ Really appreciate the advice! It’s great to hear that the Core is enough to get started with. I’ve spent a lot of time getting my backswing in order but I can feel my wrist angles breaking down in the transition - hoping this helps
Great review, was thinking of purchasing but not sure having watched this. 13 handicap , but cupped wrist like you described. Driver carries about 220 but seeking consistency rather than distance. Problem is I’m 55 so mobility not going to improve. Would you recommend for someone of that profile?
Thanks for the message!
Wrist mobility is crucial for this device. Obviously you have got down to a good handicap, so you will be able to get the feeling well with it. But if your body physically can’t get in that position then it won’t help. That being said I have seen a lot of clients gain flexibility in certain areas by stretching them out frequently and that in self has gained them a lot of consistency and power. Happy for you to face time me next week and can screen you mate. 👍
I'd love to book an assessment with you to see if I'm wasting my time with the swing changes I've been trying to make.
Do it , it’s a big plus to have a coach that has gone through the same process as his students
Hi Simon been a while watch all your stuff, love it, this is more than intriguing , so youre advocating a kind of "Stack and tilt"?> with a bowed wrist at contact?Or have i missed the point, please explain for us old dumb numpties??
Thank you mate,
To be honest I wouldn’t recommend any particular style for anyone and depends what that golfer can physically work with.
However the main focus for me is reducing the amount of forearm rotation I have in the downswing as was way to high at one point and having a flatter wrist position has definitely helped that.
You can over do this move also! Hence why my ball flights become much lower and without my speed be difficult to get the ball in the air.
Film your swing mate and email it to me and can have a look. 👍
@SASGolf will try but not the best with technology.lol.regards
As an amateur who hasn’t taken any lessons would it be better to just suck it up and take let’s say 10 lessons or just buy this? Great content as always by the way!
As an amateur who hasn’t taken any lessons would it be better to just suck it up and take let’s say 10 lessons or just buy this?
How long have you been playing? I would say lessons first so you can have someone diagnose what your biggest faults are.
However it is very good at giving a lot of correct feelings. My only concern is without a few lessons first you might lose confidence quickly with it, thinking you’re not doing it correctly when the shots aren’t going where you want them to. But in fact you are practicing the correct positions. Hope that makes sense mate.
its just too expensive
It’s definitely a bit of money. But for the tech and how much you would have to use it to see a result I think it’s good value. Plus you can practice at home with it through the winter months. But completely understand your perspective mate. 👌
I purchased this after loads of UA-cam endorsements sold it 3 days later