BMW N47 N57 ROUGH IDLE | ROUGH RUNNING | MISFIRE FIX
Вставка
- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- BMW N47 N57 rough idle - rough running or misfire fix. I talk about the common problems why your N47 or N57 engine may have these problems.
Patreon: / georgeausters
The following links are affiliate links that the channel recieves commission for
Tools I Use!
Small Impact Wrench: amzn.to/2T4igdi
Big Impact Wrench: amzn.to/39NOrEu
Sealey Impact Socket Set: amzn.to/3a8zcpQ
Torx Socket Set: amzn.to/32EbnDV
Female Torx Socket Set: amzn.to/2PzAZMQ
Torque Wrench: amzn.to/2VF0YpI
➢ Subscribe For Regular Videos ➢ goo.gl/x0Juyl
➢ Instagram: / georgeausters
➢ Facebook: / georgeausterspage
➢ Email: GeorgeAusterberry@gmail.com
➢Amazon Prime Free 30 Day Trial: amzn.to/2v6kVe5
➢Best Place For Car Parts: bit.ly/2swCcMz - Авто та транспорт
Remember to give this video a LIKE & COMMENT if you want to see more of these type of videos!
this video is very good ,very good info!helped me a lot with injectors!
Great video George. My N57 was suffering from lumpy idle and random hesitations, especially when trying to accelerate from cruising speeds (like overtaking a lorry on a dual carriageway for instance). I traced the fault to the EGR sticking in the open position due to the actuation arm being worn. I replaced the valve, but the car was the same (if not worse on idle). That was until I figured out how to reset the EGR adaptations using the bimmertool APP. I also managed to reduce the EGR flow percentage with the software. Setting the value to 0.7 rather than the default 0.0 only allows 30% EGR flow. This has improved the way the car drives massively, without going down the route of getting rid of the EGR completely...
More info please......
More of these types of videos please!
Thanks so much brother 👌
Excellent video fella, very educational.
Glad you enjoyed it
Really informative thank you George. My wifes N57 ('11 325d e93) has a lumpy idle, bluish smoke, sounds horrendous... i'm hoping it's not gonna be expensive.
I've watched this too many times now, always learning something new from it.
Good content
👍🏿
Thanks man!
This is also useful for my Toyota Avensis D4D 2016 with BMW N47 motor. U
George, I have a US 2018 328d witn N47TU, I had rough idle when cold (but after driving about 3 miles, not when fully cold). Idle was fluctuating between 780 and 810, you could feel it and definitely hear it. I agree with you, traced it down to EGR. When EGR is off, smooth idle. Plug EGR back in, intermittent rough idle. US cars have electronic EGR, so no way to adjust like the vacuum operated one. A tune that reduces EGR use would solve the problem.
If you get your ECU tuned then you can get the EGR switched off and permanently closed
@@GeorgeAustershey george i have misfire but no fault codes…car run fine then suddenly i stopped at traffic light and start shaking and misfire…bimmertool didn store any fault…what should i check??please answer george i dont have money to spend this period as i have 2 kids…
if you have stuck swirlflaps and faltcode accordingly, it wil also give ruged idle when cold engine, and N47 and 57 wil run dpf regeneration iiven if glowplugs or relay is broken, only m47 m57 have that problem.
I still find brown oil around my fuel injector have a small pool around all of them. But the car runs fine no Rev jumps or anything. Did a new service today and did look to see if the oil cap rubber is leaking wonder if when running it’s pushing oil up and out around the cap groves you can see on the neck that’s how I’m getting oil pools.
Hey George, picked up a 2011 F10 535d yesterday, the car is a weapon of mass velocity :-)
Epic mate, enjoy it.. Just be wary of the common problems I always walk about ;)
@@GeorgeAusters Thanks pal, ya im handing it in to get a pro to look over it. Msprt One owner frm new (a doc), full bmw service history, 109k miles, seems legit.
Thanks George 😂 I’ve now realised I’ve got 4 leaking injectors 😂 well it would explain my higher idle revs about 950 and why sometimes I feel like I have full power and then others not 😂
My 318d f31 is stuttering and bogging down on cold start for about 200 meters after cold start. Any ideas?
I’ve got a 2011 1 series coupe, 118d. My engine all of a sudden got a bit louder, but it doesn’t sound like it’s the timing chain. Engine light came on and the code said MAF sensor, DPF which brought up other codes etc. I also noticed little puddle of oil sitting around all my injectors so was wondering if all this had anything to do with my engine being a bit noisier than usual?
Did u have to map out the egr an dpf an who did u use to do it
If you have black death would your revs definitely be moving? I've got a misfire that I can't pin down
How do you pass the MOT with removed DPF and blocked EGR?
I find these videos helpfull. I have a 58 e90 320d and after driving for a couple miles she will start running rough, almost like it's missing. Iv changed the glow plug module. And deleted the swirl flaps. But still the same issue. It confuses me as while running rough it will inly last 5 min or so then will be fine for a period of time. Any help would be greatfull
Dpf and ecr removed. How about the yearly emmision test? Pas or not? M47 n2 520d e60 2006
Hello I replaced the hpfp and all injectors and I’m getting idle on cold start, could it be from not encoded injectors?
Hey George, my car has 102,000 I’ve changed the air filters, fuel filter, and I run diesel Kleen every couple tanks to keep them clean. The only issue the car ever has is sometimes during idle it will fluctuate a tiny bit. The only other time is sometimes when driving I feel the car kinda “miss” a tiny bit. No check engine light. No codes. The only code the car ever gave “went away with a treatment of diesel Kleen” was a code for the injector learning being maxed out. Time for injectors?
My 318d n47 does chuck occasionally on the motorway and what looks like blue smoke 💨 comes out for a second then it’s fine, doesn’t happen when my foot is to the floor only when I’m cruising at 60mph. I notice it wouldn’t do it when there was very little diesel in the tank. I’ve checked the oil and coolant levels and everything is fine and looked around the injectors and everything looks fine. The car has a glow plug fault but I wouldn’t think this would cause a problem while driving. Anybody have a similar experience.
thnxs!
Welcome bud👍🏻
What type of tool did you use to remove the injectors.
I don't want to buy the wrong kit. Mostly looking just to do it on the n47. Mine is showing black death on the first injector. But very small.
Hi, I've got an audi A5 3.0TDI and when I starting cold engine the revs are 1000 and after 10 seconds it's dropping down between 800 and 700 and stays there. Is it ok?
Hi, could you advise me on my egr please? I'm not doing the delete but I want to clean it out on a regular basis. I came to remove just the egr today to start cleaning ,I removed the torx bolts from the top of it and unplugged the connector and so on but the bloody thing won't come out, I've give a couple of gentle taps with a hammer to hopefully break it free but it won't pull out, is there something I'm missing ? Its a 2010 e91 318d touring, any advice would be great , cheers
..and yea..had failed copper seal too..pain in the arse to get it out of that hole. And that mess around injectors ... lovely job to clean ☹️
Haha yep always good fun. I done everything when I had engine out👍🏻
my n47 had an bare engine remanufacture and now it sounds like an absolute tractor
Hello!
Happy for any help/tips, 2008 N47:
Rough idle especially when warm, takes some extra seconds starting when warm, somtimes 10-20secs before starting but only after driving.
drops from ~800 to ~700rpms you can smell alot of diesel from the exhaust. No codes stored
Changed TO NEW parts: DPF EGR TURBO INJECTORS SWIRLFLAP REMOVAL KIT
I have a bmw118d 170k going great but on startup on cold days I have a lot of blue smoke and the engine a bit lumpy until it gets warm, could this be leaking injectors? I have changed the glow plugs and a new module and it’s still the same. Thanks if you could help me.
Hi George, thanks for the amazing videos you do. I have a f02 n57s engine, and after a 2000+ mile road trip it misfires when i try to start the engine and after 2-3 seconds it’s stops. Any ideas from where should I start my checks? Thank you again.
Watch my N52 rough idle video mate
Man of wisdom! I been wondering y i have this oily fuley stuff on rocker cover, and u solved it!, mate will you be doing any video on how to fix leaking injectors?✌🏾
Already done mate👍🏻
ua-cam.com/video/YwzBSo17he4/v-deo.html
@@GeorgeAusters seems like a complicated job for me!!, any chance you could do it for me mate? From midlands
Any idea of torque setting for the bolts?
@@sujeet6635 use newTIS ;)
@@Nutzername1273 i think they that website is nomore in use. It got taken down
The worst engine I ever seen in my life...bmws N47...mine I did timing chain 2 times ,and 3rd time I changed the whole engine, now the car caught fire..bloody diesel filter heater ,was the culprit.....now restoring full car..
Never gonna give up...won't leave her to escape from me.. excellent video George..
What’s the mileage?
@@GeorgeAusters owned this car since 2011, at 65 k, then changed the chain at 83 k and again on 110k , at 125k oil pump failed, changed whole engine ,and at 130k last January caught fire... ,now restoring full car...beyond repair..but making its possible George.. ,
Just had to fit a new n47 turbo last weekend. Did a egr delete and got it mapped out. But then was going to remap the car had a backpressure fault and my dpf was blocked. Got a downpipe now. Just need to remap my car now before I can use it 😁
What are you going to do at MOT time?
Yep turbo gets destroyed from DPF. Just had someone message me with exact same issue actually👍🏻
Mick Marshall going to cut open my blocked dpf cut out the dpf and weld it back together, downpipe was the cheaper and faster option for the time being
George Austers yeah I got my turbo to be sent off to be refurbished and they said that the actuator arm was worn but the bushing and crank arm within the bearing housing was excessively worn! Can’t wait to use my car again aha.
@@mickmarshall3517 put in the original downpipe, not that much work. Then put the original ecu maps back on and youre good to go
E91 n47 dpf and egr off..morning start with white/grey smoke and rough idle for 5 sec ish. 5 yrs now and still the same on cold mornings.. can leak off test be done on these injectors? Have some hoses and bottles i used on mondeo years ago just need to get connectors for these injectors if it could be done
Yes you can
Great video George very informative,I’m currently having some issues with rough idling on my 320d I have a video on my channel with it any help in advance greatly appreciated thanks 👍
Great chanel! Im thinking absolut bitning a 2015 BMW 116d. Its either a b37 or n47, not sure which. Are the n47 from 2015 ok? Or is it just as risky as the older ones, say 2007-2009?
Later N47 seem to have less chain issues in general but maintenance and oil changes are key👍🏻
what about opposite? When cold the engine idles smooth, when warm at idle it feels like occasional misifre, when driving absolutely no hiccups or anything. M47
Hey buddy! How to clean the carbon(black death) from the cover? What to use?(oven cleaner) Thank you!
Oven cleaner / brake cleaner works quite well👍🏻
Hello, I have a 2007 BMW 318D with code 493F "Pre-Supply - Pressure Sensor - signal" I need to know where to look to diagnose, where is this sensor to replace? The car working wery well, but with diagnosis program this error is coming again after erase. Thank's
It's the sensor in the fuel supply line just before the high pressure pump on the back/right side of the engine, check the wiring is okay, if the fuel pipe isn't clipped in properly it can vibrate and chafe the wires
13537800670 search for this number and you'll know what you're looking for (note your's might be a different number, but should look similar)
Hey, George!! Thanks for video! I've got an issue of revs climbing in pulsing/jerking manner while accelerating (mostly in 2-3 and 4th gears).
Torque converter changed - no jerking at constant speeds left (autopilot), but acceleration is still jerky. Should I be concerned about my gearbox or it's more of a fuel system/MAF issues? Thank you!!!
What does ISTA tell you?
@@GeorgeAusters nothing unusual in the transmission. But there is 4th injector that is a bit off when compared to other 3. Will try to look up measures while driving on Monday
@@GeorgeAusters I looked it up with diagnostics while driving. at 1,5k rpm with very little push on gas pedal car starts jerking and one injector goes completely bad, mechanic says it seems that 1 cylinder starts to shut off at that point and other injectors try to compensate. However, by giving more throttle, car runs perfectly, mileage is also normal - 8.3L/100km. Any ideas? Thanks!
A blocked dpf caused my turbo failure , short journeys did it. BMW fitted a remanufactured turbo and did a forced regen as well as clean out oil fron exhaust and inter cooler, oil pipe, gaskets and seals, oil and air filter.£2750
same thing happened to me mate , was doing aldi and tesco runs only , but as its said , car needs to be on motorway to regen , i lernt the hard way , paid 890 pounds , lucky dint affect turbo nor intercooler
Hi George. I have an e92 n47 177 Hp and in winter I have aome problem with cold start and rough idle for 15 seconds after start (and smoke) The car has dpf off and egr off. I did a check using ISTA and there are no errors. I did also a check on injectors correction and I founs that injector 4 has 3.4 correction exactly for 5 seconds after start and then the correction is going down. At around 1 minute after start all inectors correction is less than 1. Also at idle at 88 degrees coolant temperature and during running thr injectors correction is les than +-1. Could this be an issue to injector number 4 only at cold or it could be a compression issue on cylinder 4?
Thank you in advance!
did u find out the problem?i have the same problems revs going up and down car shaking, i changed the bad injector still has the same problem with big injector corrections
My car starts and goes to 1200 rpm from starts and runs at that all time 118d- comes up with crank sensor but it’s been replaced !
Any suggestions pls ❤
DPF recently out and cleaned
Glow plug controller been replaced
Ruining ok no loss of power acceleration is still good
Turbo checked ✔️
Has someone raised the idle speed?
Any plans to do a video on injector seal replacement?
Already done. Watch my timing chain replacement part 3
@@GeorgeAusters watching now thanks 😎
Hi. ive got an e90 318d n47d and when idling after engine warms up it starts fluctuating between 500 and 900 rpm. i had an error on egr but i got it replaced and now ecu has no errors an the problem is still present. Do you have any idea about what can it be? MAP/MAF , injectors, any control valve or something else?
Since diesel engines have no ICV, so the problem must be anywhere on fuel supply system or the injectors
@@ahmadaboud1494 have you found the exact source of the problem ? I have the same picture: starting OK and nice operation when yet cold engine, and poor idling and dips after warming up. Thanks.
Same problem did you guys fix it ?
Gola George
Tengo un 118d n47, tiembla muchisimo y sale humo blanco en ciudad, no corre pero en 3 y 4 marcha en autopista llega a 180km hora pero al meter 5 y 6 se muere y tiembla otra vez…
He cambiado sensor presion fap, lo he descolgado para ver si estaba embozado y sigue igual
He cambiado valvula pcv, sigue igual
Sensores map y maf limpiados, egr también
Sabes que puede ser?
How do you get your car to pass the MOT with a EGR Delete?
They can’t remove engine covers looking for an EGR valve
I have no errors but the engine idles rough and shakes on cold starts when the weather starts getting colder. It stops shaking after a minute or two. Do you think that's the glowplugs? Also the exhaust smells really really bad after the cold start
Glow plugs
@@GeorgeAusters thanks! I was suspecting that but didn't know for sure since my last diesel car was a 1989 golf mk2 which did not have those fancy electronic fuel injectors
Do u have link for egr delete kit?
Check out my N47 EGR delete video👍🏻
Have a n47 and the car will have a rough idle then eventually turn off after several seconds. Can it be an injector?
Did you find a solution? i have the same problem
@@hadarhayat439 fuel pump
Hi George. I have a lumpy idle but only when it's cold outside like below 10°C and it goes away in like a minute or two when engine warms up a little, glow plugs have been changed already, no faults. Is that injector fault or something else?
Revs hunting?
@@GeorgeAusters revs go slightly up and down between 800-900ish
Same problem here
@@t.j.dennehy5164 it's probably one of injectors
I have the same problem!! Ive changed everything, injectors,intake manifold, swirl flap delete mapped aswell. Just cant figure it out
Thanks George. Does an MOT inspector check for your EGR and DPF?
Of course 🤫
How do you get around the legality issues of removing the DPF? Does it show up on the MOT?
You shouldn’t have any problems if your engine is healthy👍🏻
George Austers Thanks George. Always appreciative of the wealth of knowledge you bring to your channel. Awesome stuff 👍🏼
Mate is it not going to be very Smokey if I removed the dpf
Excuse me, I have encountered an N47 that went up a high mountain and the air was thin. After reaching the destination, the engine stalled and immediately started but there was no response. An exclamation point appeared on the instrument, but there was no response at all and the engine could not be started. It took 20-30 minutes before the engine could start. What is the reason? I cannot find out. ?
Maybe low fuel?
Pretty sure I'm getting black death at the moment sound pretty familiar to what you said if you want to remake this in future and add pictures I'll send you some if ya want
got a n47 engine like you gonna do my injector seals then take it for a dyno run with swirlflaps and without seems like you and me are among the few that agree they should stay in the power is noticable low down and ill have proof send ya that aswell after it would be a contreversial video but nobody can argue with the facts
Would be good to see man!
Always when cold start it starts with lumpy idle 800-900 then it stops after 3 min. Sometimes it does it also when idle at redlight, but very little shake. Engine n47. Dtc showes glow plug system activation error on cyl 1, 2, 3 and communication dde. I have replaced all glow plug and the dde glow control sensor. But it didnt help... cleaned egr, and intake manifold also. The last thing is the injectors i noticed quite a bit of grease and fluid next to the injectors. But can the injector leakage do something with the glow plug activation error??
Hi, did you ever find the cause of it ?
Yep, fuel filter has a sensor which should heat the diesel. So I bought a complet fuel filter with sensor (400euro) and it fixed....
@@norbertbors3277 interesting, my fuel filter has just been replaced from a service from main dealer. I'm wondering if that is faulty.
👍🏼
I have a problem. 435d xdrive 2014. Starts and runs smooth from cold for first 5mins. Then it starts misfiring where the car shakes and produces white smoke with rich oil smell from exhaust. It has smoke coming from engine oil cap and oil dip stick. The aforementioned symptoms continues till it gets warm or stationary or if I drive it for a few minutes where it purrs like a kitten until cold again.
I have taken it to BMW and they have changed 3 injectors as misfire from cylinders 2,3 and 5 were present. This didn't fix the problem and so they tested compression. Cylinder 2 had loss in compression and needed further investigation. Camera has found multiple scratches on cylinder 2 but was told engine would need to be stripped in order to inspect further.
I'm not totally convinced. Has anyone experienced this??
I have taken it to a local garage that has shown me the injectors have NOT been changed as previously told by BMW!!
He did notice the black death you mention in your vid.
He tried changing the injectors around but still getting same error code 😕
George, I need your expertise pal.
@@Adam-we3ey Hi Adam! Did you find the problem?
@@BMWSzili unfortunately not :(
Hello. I have oil above the injectors, why? Thank you
Are you sure it’s oil?
@@GeorgeAusters yes I smelled it. It doesn't smell like diesel
Are you sure it’s not water?
@@GeorgeAusters it is oily
Could be the seal on your rocker cover or its cracked.
Well had remap stage1 dpf gone egr gone but car gone in to limp mode car fucked f30 320d
👌👌
Thanks bro🙏🏼
George what's your thoughts on f30 330d n57t engine? Looking to buy one buts it's 105k miles
Very efficient engine but has the same issues as the N47 and is harder to remove EGR and DPF. I certainly wouldn't bother with a modern diesel unless I was doing mega miles
Doing aprox 10k a year just love the power delivery of turbo diesel.
Are you dead certain you want an F30? Have you considered a high spec LCI E90 with the M57? Could even go 335D
@@GeorgeAusters yh had my eye on them for around 2 years lol its like the big brother of my current car. Looking for full spec Inc sunroof 😍
Have you driven a F30? I really don’t like them if I’m honest. Interior seems cheap and plasticky, and steering doesn’t feel good at all
Well that backed up MY theory on my rough idling when on a cold start. If it’s not been run for about 4/5 hours, then it’s lumpy with lots of smoke on start up, but if it’s warm smooth idle and no smoke. A bmw tech said he thought it was a bent Conrod. As I told him it happened after I went through some deep water, deep enough to hit the air filter and it died as I came out, so I clutched it (yes manual a real driver’s car)but was doing very low revs (6 cyl) so let it! Then sat for around an hour before it started, had tried every 15mins but nothing. But with a splutter it started and ran fine 40/50 miles home, it was the next morning it started with the rough idling and smoke. My thinking is that the conrod wouldn’t straighten after running for a few mins, and that one or more injectors are leaking so when it starts up it’s got more fuel to burn off? I’ll get to that soon as at the mo I’m replacing glow plugs and inlet decoke (what a ballache).👍
Im having the same problem have you fixed this mate?
@@tiresombeast677 coolant temp sensor maybe
Can u not use foam through sensor port ? Ta
Both my diesels are deleted!
Runs a whole world better!
Does it pass mot afterwards?
I'm in the USA in an area with no emission checks
@@cdrseabee where did you get your kit?
Few more adverts would be good, I don’t think 6 is enough for a 10 min video. What was your video about again that many adverts I forgot what I was watching
Adverts fund the channel's projects. It allows me to make all this content for people to watch for free!
@@GeorgeAusters I get that m8, but it’s hard balance between respect for your viewers and respect for your own wallet. Nothing wrong with your videos but I for one will now swerve them.
@@1972type2 Nothing to do with my wallet mate. I haven't taken a single penny yet, everything has been reinvested back into the channel
Why u tallk start the engine and show around.
You wouldn’t hear me over the engine running
@@GeorgeAusters Ok to be honest that is true🤔🤔
Unfortunately the N47 doesn't match the reliability of a Toyota engine. A very bad decision from Toyota to buy this from BMW and fit it in the Avensis.
Does avensis use this motor?
Hi George my e92 is shaking, I noticed that my intake breather pipe needed replacing I've done that but it's still shaking and it's going between 800rpm to 900rpm idling, what would you check next I was thinking the injectors
When cold?
@@GeorgeAusters yeah soon as I get in car, I left it running for about 10-15mins and turned off and back on still same, it cut out yesterday aswell when I was at traffic light, it's automatic, planning on egr and dpf delete soon but want your thoughts on what it could be before I start buying injectors etc, I've cleaned maf sensor and solenoids