Ultimate American Luxury Performance | 2018 Cadillac CTS-V Review
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- While Cadillac's V brand might not carry as much weight as BMW M or Mercedes-AMG, this 640 horsepower 4 door sedan offers a lot to the performance enthusiast.
Our Spotlight is on the 2018 Cadillac CTS-V, with over $16,000 worth of optional extras, such as the Recaro racing seats, carbon fibre trim, video rearview camera, and so much more. We go in-depth with this top-end midsize performance sedan to find out what happens when you drop an LS-based GM small block V8 in a car mostly associated with grandpas.
Our full tour and review of this 2018 Cadillac CTS-V covers more than you might find from other Channels. We talk about some of the exterior features, or lack thereof, including the $7,100 carbon fibre package, adaptive front HID headlights, keyless entry, 19" after midnight rims, and video rearview camera. Inside we go over the very luxurious interior trim and options, such as the Recaro racing seats, rear sun shades, panoramic sunroof, tri-zone automatic climate control, and the various displays and interfaces for media and performance.
We also take this $110,000 sedan on a road test, to see what it's like to live with a car like the 2018 Cadillac CTS-V. A 0-100km launch as well as some cornering also makes it's way in to this episode. We wrap up with some raw exhaust sounds taken from our action cam, and talk about the likes and dislikes about this vehicle. We also met up with the Club Cadillac CTS / CTS-V Québec group to have a chance to see all 3 generations of the CTS-V.
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I love this cadillac!! Looks so sick! Its 4 am where i am and I haven't even gone to sleep yet lmao. I feel like im a hole day behind you
We've been up since 5am working on our next episode, so I feel like we're a day behind too! This was definitely one of the most exciting cars we've driven this year, really under-appreciated in the global car enthusiast community.
Great vid. Finally a vid with some proper shots of the car. Most just show a glimpse you showed the shit out of it. Good job yall.
Glad to hear that, thanks! We try to focus less of our final clips on us, and more on the car, even if the footage doesn't necessarily relate to what we're talking about. We'll definitely make sure we continue this!
I've owned a 2011 CTS-V for over 4 years. It's a great car too. I almost pulled the trigger on a 2016 CTS-V 2 weeks ago. I sent a wire transfer to the dealer, but the account number was one digit off and got declined. That gave me time to think...I love the car, but didn't want the debt when my current car performs almost as well. I still love the new gen and know it offers more, but my older one has no monthly payment.
Fair enough! Sounds like it was meant to be.
What really took me was the acceleration. And how fast you cover ground. If you're not used to moving though space so quickly, it's a new sensation. And they are solid, solid to drive.
Agreed! There's always something faster out there, but coming from a wave of consumer cars this was a nice surprise.
What a beast 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽 it sounds awesome too great review as usual mate 10/10
We're glad we got some exhaust noise, the new action camera we bought doesn't have a great microphone, so we're going to look into fixing our GoPro Session for exterior shots.
I love the way it handles - I'm still pimpin my 09 cts 3.6 seems really outdated now... i can always dream
There’s nothing wrong with that! Everyone talks about the German luxury cars, but Cadillac has been producing some fantastic cars for a while now.
New subscriber! Great videos 👍
Glad to hear you're on board! We're growing those subscriber numbers, so thank you!
I can't believe that I'm 5 days late on this....real good production, goes good with my Publix Mardigra chicken wings!
Gotta click that notification button! But that does worry us some, we've noticed a huge decline in viewership numbers recently, and we suspect it has a lot to do with UA-cam's changes to the Home/Subscription tabs.
My Dream car ❤️
From 🇨🇭
It's our dream car too!
I enjoyed your review. We just bought a 2018 CTS-V, and it could be that exact car you tested (although the window sticker on this car was $112K). Exact same colour inside and out, and appears to have all the same options. I really love it. The combination of style, power, comfort and features this car offers are unbeatable IMO. If you don't floor it all the time, it isn't that thirsty; we just took it on a long road trip and I was watching the fuel economy monitor; on the highway, even well above the speed limit, it switches over to V4 mode and gets quite remarkable numbers. The Recaro seats are super comfortable (although I wish they had the cooling feature like the standard seats do) and the ride quality makes even the rough pavement around here tolerable. I noticed the lack of power folding mirrors (and also headlight washers), both are strange since the European version of the CTS-V has these features. Oh, and I switched the reverse and license plate bulbs to LED's lol. I was considering buying a new CT5-V Blackwing and actually put a deposit down, but decided on this car instead, as I just preferred the exterior and interior, and I was frankly fed up after over a year of waiting. I'm super glad I did. Its just a great, great car.
Enjoy it! This was one of my favourite cars to review, I'm glad I had the chance to drive it when Cadillac still made it.
my dream car
It's our dream car too! We saw one with a modified exhaust last weekend at the drag strip while filming another episode of TestDrive Showdown, it sounded phenomenal.
I built a 2019 to my specs on the caddy site, and it was about $110k American! I would definitely go used, if I could find all the options....and I actually had the money!!
If that's all you got to complain about I say good job cadillac the cts v is the lightest car in its category I want I want 👍👍
Right! We really had no faults with this car, but we also haven't driven the M5 or E 63 AMG, so while on it's own this car is fantastic, we don't have much to compare with at this time.
Perpetual Radio Networks motor trend did a head to head and the cts v beat by a tick of the clock it was against the Benz e amg not bad I don't know if you check them out or not motor trend but there head to heads are good for the most part the Cadillac been around for a minute now the Benz and BMW are all newer I still take the Cadillac you want see yourself coming and going and it just looks wicked as hell
I haven’t seen that episode yet, but we’ll check it out!
i have the regular base 2010 cts. that thing really does very well on curvy roads, so much so that my boss tried it and was impressed, but he had to get the cts v 2011 with the 650hp upgrade , holy shit that thing is fun to drive, you got to constantly look at your speedometer because you will go well past the speed limit without realizing it. cruise control on long trips is a good idea
Very nice! These are fantastic cars, gets us into the Cadillac bug again. We can’t afford the V, but even an older CTS or STS has caught our attention after driving this one.
Looking very aggressive and attractive
We think so too! We parked it next to the 2010 Mercedes C 63 AMG we filmed last year, the owner's added some extra carbon fibre much like the CTS-V, and both look quite sharp.
It's provably the beard
drove this and xts vsport and they are F N AWSOME ! its like a lux race car IMO . Gidddy up ! FYI i am a grandpa as are many car guys. dont put all people in the same category . fact us old grandpas are the orginal owers of all the muscle cars you with you could have today
We’ve been thoroughly impresses by Cadillac’s sedans as of late. We had booked an XTS during the winter but something came up and we didn’t get it. We’re looking forward to drive it down the road though!
Greatest car of all time (as of 2018) and best car company period. I'd choose this over a Bugatti any day, can't wait to get mine this year
We thoroughly enjoyed this Cadillac, looking forward to the CT6 V Sport and their next sedans!
It’s crazy that this car can be over 100k & within just a few years depreciate to 50k. There’s 2016s going for 49k-54k. I love this car looking forward to getting a used one here soon. It’s all good lol
Pretty much all the luxury performance cars depreciate like crazy. This car is a smoking good deal used.
Really Beautiful car in my opinion
We think so too! Very unique design in the sea of German engineering out there.
Perpetual Radio Networks would you still never buy a Cadillac
That was my personal opinion starting back in high school and continuing up until even a year ago, however the Cadillacs we've driven so far have impressed me, and opened my eyes to the possibility of ownership. I would seriously consider picking up an older one, mid 2000s STS would be nice. I'm always happy to have my opinions/biases changed when doing this show!
Perpetual Radio Networks I could definitely see how viewing so many different cars could open ones eyes to buying one. Good choice also.
I have to leave a comment and thats I’m glad I found your channel its good content and you do what I think is a good unbiased review don’t entertain the negative comments not all people have had good upbringings or positive experiences in life so you have to give them a free pass because a normal self respecting person under normal circumstances wouldn’t say such disparaging remarks meant to invoke a hurtful response to a complete stranger unless they were hiding behind a keyboard (trolls). Once I judge myself everybody gets a free pass Lol keep up the good work.
We really appreciate that, thanks! We ignore any of the dumb comments, anything that doesn't add value just gets ignored by us. Thanks for checking out our episode!
Beautifullll😳🤑
Agreed! It’s aggressive and handsome at the same time.
13:02 no speed limits are broken, tachometer just got some bugs
Part of those electrical issues we had 😛
Love the car but it needs AWD. How would it do in snow and ice? I saw when you were flipping through modes it had an ice mode or something. Do you think that mode would compensate for being RWD? Spending that much money and driving in winter makes me nervous.
The Snow mode wouldn't do much to be honest, it decreases the throttle response and transmission shifts, but we heard from the owners of the two older generations that we filmed that these cars are terrible in the snow. Definitely a summer car!
big and boxy: check
big v8: check
powerfull supercharger: check
yep, that's definitely a very murica car
That it is! We figured what better place to film the introduction than the border!
You forgot to mention the best 4 door chassis on the planet, with the best handling of any car in its class. So if you're trying to say "murica" means excellent handling and chassis, I agree with you.
Vernon Price no, usualy i mean cars that can barely turn throug intersections lol
+Tony x - "no, usualy i mean cars that can barely turn throug intersections lol"
So what you're saying is that you're horrendously ignorant and have absolutely no idea how well the CTS-V handles. To give you an idea, the CTS-V lapped faster than these cars at VIR. Keep in mind the CTS-V is a 4 door luxury performance sedan as you look at the kind of cars it's beating around the track.
Cadillac CTS-V (2016) 2:56.8
Dodge Viper SRT10 (2008) 2:57.4
Audi R8 V-10 Plus (2014) 2:57.5
Porsche 911 Turbo S (2011) 2:57.5
Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Black Series (2012) 2:58.0
Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG (2011) 2:58.0
Porsche 718 Cayman S (2017) 2:58.3
Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio (2017) 2:58.6
Porsche 911 Carrera S 2:58.9
Nissan GT-R (all-season tires, 2009) 2:59.0
Mercedes-Benz SL63 AMG (2014) 2:59.1
Jaguar XKR-S GT (2014) 2:59.1
Porsche Panamera Turbo (2017) 2:59.2
Mercedes-AMG C63 S (2015) 2:59.2
Audi R8 5.2 FSI Quattro (2010) 2:59.5
Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG S-model (2014) 3:00.1
BMW M4 (2015) 3:00.7
Porsche Panamera Turbo S (2012) 3:00.7
Ford GT (2006) 3:00.7
Jaguar F-type R coupe (2015) 3:01.0
Porsche 911 GT3 (2007) 3:01.8
BMW M2 (2016) 3:01.9
Jaguar XKR-S (2013) 3:02.1
Jaguar F-type Project 7 (2016) 3:02.2
Porsche Cayman S (2014) 3:02.6
Audi RS7 (2014) 3:03.0
And for good measure, this one - the newest, most current Audi R8 V10 Plus, the fastest version of the R8 ever made, ran this:
Audi R8 V-10 Plus (2017) 2:56.1
Which is only about half a second faster than the CTS-V. Does that help put it in perspective for you?
Tony do you own car, ever owned a 3rd gen CTS V ? If not , STFU, your an asshole, I just bought one , it’s a incredible vehicle in every way, nothing to criticize, zilch
This looks better than the E63 and the F90 M5
We really wanted to get those side by side to compare, we had a quick look at the M5 and found it to be too conservative, same with the E-Class AMG.
This is one of my dream cars!
It's now one of ours also!
Awesome video, as per usual. It's so fun to see you experience speed. You're not at all jaded by it like so many of the other UA-cam automotive journalists. Quick question, though: when you were showing the underside of the CTS-V's carbon fiber hood, was it peeling already or something? Or was that some grime or a trick of the light or something?
I think you might be looking at the white stuff along some of the hood, we went through the car wash minutes before filming the b-roll, so all that you see under the hood along the carbon fibre is just soap that didn't fully wash off. At least I think that's what you're referring too. If you have a timecode for the specific point I can check!
Right at 1:14:
Now that I have it paused, it does look more like soap or something. Carbon fiber isn't supposed to peel anyway, right?
Unless it’s fake I don’t think it should.
I love this design and realize Cadillac is ending production of the CTS-V. This or the Lexus GSF are my favorite luxury sedans right now. The Q50S Red Sport and Stinger GT are amazing choices for the money but we already have a Q50S
" HLLYYYY SSHHHIIIIII " hahahhaha
It's one of the few cars I've driven so far that truly scares me off the line. It's incredible!
It does have power folding mirrors; just make sure the L/R toggle switch is in the middle position and press the down arrow. Alternatively, press and hold the lock button on the key fob.
That’s how the CT6’s folding mirrors worked, but not for the CTS-V. We did try several times to get them to work, but the button on this car is different from the other Cadillacs.
Perpetual Radio Networks Strange, it works like that on my V
We do find there are sometimes different options for different markets, so perhaps that’s where the discrepancy is. If yours has it that’s great! It’s a feature we’d have used if it was there.
Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
12:47 to 12:51 best reaction lmfao
I only wish we could have recorded my original reaction when I first felt how much power the car had.
Title of video should be 4 door Corvette Z06....i love the CTS-V, but just a couple of things get to me with it, versus say a ATS-V. Price, no manual gearbox, and gauges are all digital. ATS-V is priced better, has a hand built engine, manual gearbox option, and analog gauges. I still really like both.
The ATS-V is slower, the gauges are absolutely horrible, the CTS-V's digital gauges are much MUCH better, The CTS-V has a V8 and sounds a lot better, and while the ATS-V costs less money, you also get less car, as it's slower and smaller.
I love the ATS-V, and I agree about the manual option. but the CTS-V is better in nearly every single way.
That's certainly true, the regular Corvette isn't as fast, but we purposely omitted the Z06 from the title for length, we're always over the recommended title character count anyway. Either way, the ATS-V and CTS-V are dead by 2020 and will both be replaced by the CT5, at least according to our GM media rep.
Nice job Nile
640hp! It's time to go all wheel drive ala M5
Otherwise, I think it's a death wish.
No kidding eh! We're going to see if there's a chance to get the M5, the 2019 that was supposed to come to Montreal was delayed, but we're pretty booked until October now, so hopefully we can book it in before they swap over the winter tires.
AWD is for pussies. This is a road course car.
Hussein Adib It isnt necessary.
will it mess the stability of the car if it is elevated for bumpy roads?
Depends on how elevated I suppose. We didn’t drive this anywhere that was un-paved, but the roads in Montreal are quite rough, with tonnes of pot holes. We didn’t have any issues with the ride height surprisingly.
what about roads with speed bumps. here in Kenya that's a major issue... too many speed bumps
If you take them slow it shouldn’t be a problem, unless the speed bumps are abnormally large. We have some pretty big ones here and the front never scraped, that was my major concern with the front carbon lip.
that is my big worry as well i am thinking of starting to import cars for sell so i want to get as much information as possible and the best market and best deals
I'm good with my 2008 Nissan Altima I'll have paid off in a few months..lol..
I have A 2017 Cadillac CTS V which also has electrical issues--lane departure warning and heated seats turn on by themselves; If the rear wheels spin on wet pavement, the transmission has gotten stuck in first gear for a while. Twice, when coming to a stop in drive, when I proceeded, the transmission was disengaged, like it was in neutral, even though it was in drive. I had to turn the engine off, get out and wait 15 minutes and then it was back as it should--it hasn't happened since the second time, fortunately but it's a dangerous glitch.
But my main persistent issue is, while it is awesome to drive and comfortable, and once it was re-calibrated, the transmission shifts great, the transmission has issues with the torque converter and perhaps something else, that causes a vibration or shudder, like going over bad pavement, when going a steady speed with light pressure on the gas pedal between 30 to 80 miles an hour, initially 30 to 62, but the problem came back a higher-speed about a year the after prescribed transmission oil flush and replacement with Mobile 1. This is a known issue with not only Cadillacs but other GM cars with the same transmission.
My car was bought new, and there were some fit and finish issues with the hood and fenders that I asked them to address before I purchased, which they did somewhat, and the passenger front door took more forced to close than the other doors and was misaligned, which I discovered shortly after. I discovered about a year and a half later at a different dealership where I was having it serviced that the front bumper and fenders had been taken off and the front bumper repainted and everything put back together rather sloppily, and even though I had asked the dealership where I bought it, before purchasing it, several times, if it had been damaged and repaired, and again after my service dealership discovered what I initially suspected did happen, the original dealership denied it again although they had it for 49 days before I bought it. If it happened somewhere before they got it, wasn't reported to anyone, and Cadillac has documented what the dealerships say but now they want me to write a physical letter to another department stating everything all over again. I can see where this is going--nowhere, And aside from the repair issue, I've seen examples straight from the factory that are perfect in fit and finish, but also one that had similar fit and finish issues as my vehicle, with hood and fender misalignment and door misalignment. Quality control is not very good, or else these vehicles are being damaged in transit and poorly repaired.
I'm sorry to hear that you've had problems with your CTS-V, the electrical issues alone are a big enough worry let alone the transmission. I wonder if it's similar to the problems some CT6 owners have reported with the transmissions in that car.
Yes, it affects many GMC models including the CT6. Here's the official bulletin with specific car models and the prescribed fix. My service manager just told me that after this transmission fluid flush and replacement, about 10% of cars later still develop a torque converter problem requiring replacement of the torque converter. I assume now they are using the proper fluid straight from the factory
www.revbase.com/BBBMotor/TSb/DownloadPdf?id=201234
I'd like your opinion: A few months ago to get rid of all these issues, I ordered built a new 2018 Cadillac CTS V with exactly the same colors and options as my current 2017 CTS V, which I was going to trade in. There were some pretty good incentives and a fair price for the trade in. About seven weeks later the car came in, but it had a driver side door that took a lot of more force to close than the other doors and the gap was narrower at the top than the bottom on edge that opened. The hood was very much raised above the fenders. When I test drove it in touring mode it seemed fine, but when I put it in sport mode and gave it moderate quick acceleration there was a pause and then it clunked hard into gear on the downshift. I declined to purchase the car which seem to have worse problems than the one I currently have, and got a refund on my deposit. The salesman said he was embarrassed about it, and thought they would just have their body shop do some work and sell it to someone else. A couple days ago, about a month and a half later, when I got home from a family event, there were 7 messages on my phone from three different people at the dealership, trying to get me to come in that afternoon, as two corporate engineers from GM had flown in to examine and fix the car and they wanted to talk to me, or the service manager wanted me to talk to them so that I knew he wasn't making it up. Of course I couldn't couldn't make it, but I went in a couple days later and talked to the service manager. He said he had called corporate about this car and they flew in to look at it. They had checked the records of it and said it never should have left the factory that way, and it somehow missed the last stage where they adjust the fit of the body panels. Hard to believe, but... They spent about four hours with their own tools, raising the fenders to match the hood, working from from underneath the wheel well to loosen the bolts, and adjusted the door hinge, also assessable behind the wheel well, and the gap, and then the strike plate, so that it closes more easily, although they left it a little harder, about an ounce more pressure, because the driver side door would wear in more than the others, the manager reported they said. He also said they adjusted the passenger door to make it a little easier to close, although I hadn't noticed an issue there, and also made some adjustment to the rear bumper to center it better which I hadn't noticed before. I assume they might've checked all the other systems. He said they had equipment that he didn't have, and they weren't forthcoming about exactly what they did or what the real problem was at the factory. I looked at the car, and it's much better although the fit and finish is not perfect, even in areas they didn't adjust, like where the curved top of the body above the front side window meets the fender, which has a larger gap on the driver side than passenger side, and the taillights are slightly further out in relation to the trunk lid on one side than the other, although I only noticed because I was physically touching them for comparison. And while the hood and fender match is better, it still rises slightly in the middle of the sides a little above the level of the fender. The car is probably within normal variance, although a few months before I had examined an identical car with the same color and options, except it had black wheels, that had just come in from the factory, built to order for someone who was about to pick it up. I examined it carefully visually and tactility, and the fit and finish was perfect everywhere, so I know it's possible. I just drove the car that was worked on and although the downshifting from a fast start at a low-speed did have a little bit of a clunk at times it was better than before and maybe it is just a matter of it learning and breaking in but, you never know.
They offered me a supplier discount, and with the current normal incentives and discounts, which were actually $1000 less than a month and a half ago, but apparently they made up the difference with a slightly higher evaluation of the trade in, so I am basically offered an additional $5800 off the previous price. The manager said that if I don't purchase the car they're returning it to Cadillac.
My question is, although the price is good, am I just going to run into a similar issue with my current car because I don't really know what happened to it, or do you think their explanation is straightforward. I had asked if it maybe missed some other quality checks, such as putting the transmission together, or whatever, and the service manager said that was separate, it was just final body panel adjustments that we're not done, etc. It's hard to know what to believe. He said the GM engineers were embarrassed about it.
So my question would be, should I perhaps order a 2019 which would not be as good a good deal because the new model year has fewer incentives and no special supplier price, plus my trade in will probably be evaluated lower, three or four months from now, or take this deal, maybe paying an expert $100 to examine it, which I should've done with my first current Cadillac, but you don't usually think to do that with a new car, or maybe just keep my car, try to get them to address the acknowledged door problem under warranty, and deal with any other issues that are still under warranty. I have to say, the difference between the deal with the trade-in for the car they have now at the dealer would be probably about what I would've paid if I rented my current car current for the last 22 months, maybe less, and my current car will need new tires in a few thousand miles. However I'm less concerned with the money as not getting into a worse situation with unknown quality factors. Any opinion?
PS The new CTS V that I had ordered built had 8 miles on the odometer when it came into the dealership, but I should have checked the edge of the driver door for the actual build date. A free VIN check I just did shows that it was built and delivered in 2017, which if true means it wasn't built to order and was sitting around for a year, but I'm not sure if that it is accurate. It is accurate for my current car which it says was built and delivered to the dealer in 2016.
Update: The dealer said the car was built starting the month I ordered it.
Hello sir,
I’m looking at purchasing a 2018 CTS V, since you turned in your 2017 and now have your 2018. Has there been any electrical problems or transmission shifting problems. I will definitely look for the raised hood above the fender and the larger gap driver door. When i read about your electrical issues that make me take a few steps back approach. I’m sure not every car has that issue. But, it sure does make u think. I have an OBM 6sp manual sedan with 28k on it. Everyone keeps telling me nooooo don’t sell it. It had a whine in the tranny years ago until I switch out with that AC Delco fluid. No problems after that, is there anything else I need to look out for?
Thanks for your time
uncle mel -
I did not trade in my 2017 CTS V because the 2018 I ordered came in with the same sort of fit and finish problems as my 2017, and had some additional transmission clunk with moderately aggressive acceleration from a slow speed in Sport mode. I refused it. I'm still considering trading my 2017 CTS V in, but now for a 2019, which won't have nearly the same incentives and rebates as the end-of-the-model-year 2018, which they messed up. Currently the electrical issues are not a problem, but the transmission shudder and vibration which has returned worse than before, is a problem, and I'm scheduled to bring it in to see if they can fix it--if it needs a new torque converter or what--it's still under warranty. But I'm thinking I might try to trade it in before dealing with that. The problem is, I don't know if this is an inherent problem with these transmissions, or something that was remedied with the Mobile 1 transmission fluid replacement, which I assume the new cars would have, and mine is having a problem again because of damage from non-ideal transmission fluid--which was the GM brand--before it was replaced about 7 months after I got the car, that took another year or so to show up. The only reason I'm considering sticking with the CTS V is because, aside from these problems, the car is so exceptional. This will be the last model year that the CTS V will be made. It will be replaced by something called the CT5, which may have a similar platform, but a duo, I believe, turbocharged four-cylinder engine, and probably the 10 speed transmission that is currently on their larger sedan, and the CT5 may be a little smaller, but performance should be equal, and of course it will look different, and we're not sure what it will look like yet, or if it will come out in 2020, or we'll have to wait another year. I'm also trying to look at alternatives, such as the smaller, slightly quirky Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio, which by all accounts handles exceptionally, accelerates almost the same as the Cadillac, is a bit smaller, and gets better gas mileage, but I don't know how how it rides or how it feels. Of course, there's Mercedes E 63 AMG but it is about 50% more expensive, and heavier. If I hadn't have gotten the CTS V, for an ordinary sedan, for comfort, roominess, amenities, stereo system, and good power, but not like the V, for a good price compared to the competition, I would've gotten the Genesis G80.
If it was without a music it well be nicer
You made the usual mistake that most guys have since the V's came out: The transmission was not designed for best use using the paddle shifters! See Dave Leone's (Chief Engineer) interview on YT.
1:15 why does the hood interior look so thrashed?
Thrashed? That’s carbon fibre and soap from the car wash this car had 5 minutes before filming.
Gotcha, looked like cracks and chips to me.
Murica bby
But why did they take the laurels off the damn emblem?!
Because it's not the 1950s any more.
That's definitely true, but GM is trying to re-invent their two oldest brands. The new crest might disappoint long-time Cadillac enthusiasts, but it does help to modernize the brand for younger buyers. Buick is going through the same thing, we'll be talking about that in a few weeks!
Yeah - the point is that Cadillac is TRYING to lose their older clientele. They don't want old people buying their cars.
Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead.
Why do people say "Zed o 6" rather than Zo6
Outside of the US people pronounce things differently.
Perpetual Radio Networks thank you for reply
Only If Cadillac Could Step Up To Extreme Luxury Like Mercedes-Benz BMW & Audi With The Features GM Charges Too Much Money For Their Vehicles To Be Lacking On Features That's One Of The Things That's Been Hurting GM As A Whole
Cadillac is slowly climbing back to the status as it used to be decades ago. It's GM having too many brands under its wing around the globe causing Cadillac to not have the appropriate interior and well contribution to their vehicles.
Charges too much? Have you seen the prices for anything that even comes near the performance you get for the money?
Cadillac might not have all the over-the-top luxury features like power side window shades, heated arm rests, or a stellar infotainment setup like iDrive, but we find that a car like this is seriously well priced, considering a BMW M5 starts $3,000 more than this fully loaded CTS-V, and about $11,000 more to get similar safety tech and interior options.
Camaro's are notoriously known for over heating issues...
Really the only way it'll get better is AWD. IF not better, faster
Agreed! We cut that part from our driving segment, but we did talk about the potential for AWD, especially with BMW going that route with the 2019 M5.
+Byron Glass - AWD makes a car slower, not faster, because it adds weight. Just saying.
Now if you're referring to better traction from a stop, sure. But that's not the same thing as being faster. That's just having more traction.
Vernon Price: RWD with this car will only be faster on a track under ideal condition with a pro driver, otherwise on public road with an average Joe, AWD will feel faster and will be usable in snow/ice/wet condition.
I will agree that RWD is still the purest form of driving enthusiasm, so in my opinion AWD should be at least an option.
+fred Brochu - "RWD with this car will only be faster on a track under ideal condition with a pro driver, otherwise on public road with an average Joe, AWD will feel faster"
First of all, that statement is completely non-quantifiable since you pulled it out of your ass. Second, you are referring to individual driver skill, which has nothing to do with the CAR's capabilities. Were you aware you can have a shitty driver in an AWD car too? Yeah, there goes that argument. And third, nobody buys high performance super sedans specifically to drive them in snow/ice/wet conditions, so there goes THAT argument. And not only that, you can drive a CTS-V in snow perfectly well, and it even has a wet/snow drive mode. The tires you use are more important than whether it's AWD or not, and with a good set of snow tires the CTS-V is very drivable in the snow.
"I will agree that RWD is still the purest form of driving enthusiasm"
That's great, but it doesn't change anything that I said. Once again, AWD does not make a car FASTER. AWD does not improve your car's power to weight ratio. In fact it's the opposite, because AWD adds weight, and specifically weight to the front end, it's both worse for handling AND worse for speed. The only thing AWD gives you, in the context of performance, is better traction from a stop... and that's it. Doesn't make you faster, doesn't make you handle better.
First of all, you did not understand my statement. On public road, you will not use 100% of the car capabilities, so while AWD will slow it down (marginally), you will really only feel it on the track, where you floor it. Most people will not notice it on public road. There goes your first counter-argument.
Second: The driver's ability is irrelevant here. I was referring to public road use (I didn't think I had to specify) where 99% will spend their entire life and AWD on public road have a lot of benefit and help a lot in poor weather condition, regardless of your driving skill. It just makes it easier. There goes your second counter argument.
Speaking of poor weather condition, do you really think a snow/ice mode is a magic button that gives more traction? It only modulate throttle response and will make the transmission shift sooner, which as you said in another comment you can do yourself with throttle application. Good winter tire will help tremendously, but it have limits too. On a snowy/icy day while going uphill, you'll stay stuck while an AWD car next to you will pull out. The CTS-V might be drivable in the snow, but AWD will help it nonetheless. There goes your third counter argument.
``AWD does not make a car FASTER``. Dude, I know that, everyone does. But let say giving it AWD means it lose time on a race track, do you really think you'll feel it on public road where you can't use even 50% of this car capability? No you won't. Actually you might feel (I said FEEL, read that word, F-E-E-L) as if it's faster since it will launch harder from a standstill and won't burn rubber up to about 100KpH (I said KPH, not MPH, before you misquote me).
Besides, I only stated that AWD should simply be offered as an option and you had to go on such a tantrum. I live in Canada, I know what winter is, and AWD is VERY desirable during winter, not essential, but DESIRABLE, especially with a 640hp monster.
Uuhh Car is Nasty in a good way.
That it is! Especially with that exhaust opened up.
No LED lights for 100k. That's just being cheap on gems part. I just bought my wife a Mercedes benz c300. It's got all LED bright white modern lights, convertible amg packages not motor and it was 54k half price. I've been a caddie guy for 20 yrs and I love the ctsv cars but for the same money I'd now look at the c632 or e63 amg...sorry GM that's saying alot since I've owned 7 or 8 GMs in.my lifetime 3 of which were Cadillac Devilles and the DTS. Not to mention an Eldorado ETC. So yes I think I'd spend my money next time on Mercedes which is sad cause I like to buy American.
+Ralph Kroll - Well first of all the CTS-V is $85k not $100k USD.
Second, the C63 is MUCH slower and handles worse than the CTS-V while still costing over $60k and that;'s before ANY options are added to it.
Third, the E63 S is gonna be at least $105,000 and again that's before you start adding options to it, since that's base MSRP. And because it's a Benz, you aren't getting out the door for less than $130k. And then it doesn't handle as well as the CTS-V, and it is also equipped worse in base model form.
All the Cadillacs you owned were complete shit. The CTS-Vs have always been very, very good driver's cars. So if you choose to spend your money on Mercedes, you will be getting quite a lot less car for your money - or you will be spending a lot more money. There is no two ways about that.
Think about it - you paid $54k for a complete shit base model C300, which is Mercedes' economy line of cars that are much worse than any Cadillac CTS, and of course the C300s are slow as shit and handle like crap too. And you paid $54k for that. And honestly, you only mentioned one thing that you didn't like which was a lack of LED lighting. You failed to mention that the CTS-V has adaptive HID headlights that turn with the car. But that's not good enough for you, apparently? Also the CTS-V's HIDs are standard equipment, while the LEDs on the C300 are NOT. You have to order the advanced lighting package to get those.
The point is, I don't think you understand - even a little bit - the value the CTS-V represents in terms of performance.
Sadly no AWD. You need that to compete in Europe.
Maybe in a straight line from a stop specifically, but the CTS-V is still faster around a track, and from a roll when traction is no longer an issue, the CTS-V is still faster too. Also FYI Cadillac developed and tested the CTS-V in Germany, on the Nurburgring and the autobahns. It is absolutely specifically designed to beat the European super saloons.
The owner of the C 63 AMG we filmed a while back had a crack at this CTS-V and was blown away by the handling compared with his C-Class. Cadillac wasn't playing games when they made this car, it's a serious competitor. It's interesting though, we ended up cutting our quick rant about AWD from the driving segment for time, but we did say the next generation should offer it, since the E 63 AMG does and the 2019 BMW M5 has gone AWD.
you need a AWD car to get more buyers. a lot of ppl are buying awd because there is a lot of snow in winter in europe. normal ppl can't drive with so much HP in snow without AWD. and by the way i own a Cadillac ATS 2.0 AWD and i love it.
+DirtyDistrictJamK - "you need a AWD car to get more buyers"
False. AWD is absolutely not required to sell a performance car, and that's made very, very obvious by the supercars that don't have AWD, like the Ferrari 488, the McLarens, etc.
And have you ever tried to drive a CTS-V in snow? It's very easy. You put good snow tires on it, and then you drive it gently. Were you aware you can drive it without using all 640 HP? Yeah you just don't push the pedal all the way to the floor, it's really easy. Also, the CTS-V has a snow mode specifically, in case you were wondering.
And once again, it needs to be pointed out to you that the CTS-V was DEVELOPED in Europe. It was very literally developed in Germany, Cadillac set up in Germany and developed the car there for months, driving it in all conditions and on all kinds of roads including the autobahns and the Nurburgring. You can't use the argument "but in Europe" because the CTS-V is, for all intents and purposes, a European car, specifically designed to beat European super saloons in Europe.
+Riccardo Di Giulio - Since there is no time for the gen 3 CTS-V on the nurburgring, I'm wondering where you think you got that information from. The generation 2 CTS-V DOES have a time on the nurbugring, because it broke the world record for fastest 4 door car ever recorded on the nurburgring when it came out in 2009. 14 seconds a lap faster than the M5. That was the previous generation CTS-V though, not the current one. The current one is on a completely different, world class chassis and is much, MUCH faster,
If the Kia could get some more hp maybe😉
Haha! They should go for a complete balls to the wall performance version, Hyundai’s doing it with their N cars. Let’s see something from Kia!
Perpetual Radio Networks I see that also, if they would touch 500hp they'd get more new customers.
PRN_TestDrive there Is no real world comparison the Kia is a straight up cheap piece of shit
It looks like a brick... But the interior is nice.
Many complain that BMW's design language has been stale as of late, but when you look at all 3 generations of the Cadillac CTS-V lined up like we got, you can see that the design has really been a slow progression over the past decade for GM. They're certainly getting more aggressive with this one though.
I found that comparison interesting too. But to me the middle one clearly looks the best, the new one is just trying too hard.
bits and pieces put together rather than a fully built car from the ground up. that the problems with most American cars.
How is it not a fully built car from the ground up? And it takes the european sedans to school on the track. It's the best handling 4 door car in its class.
We're not sure either what the OP means by this, you could say the same about the BMW M5 since the window switch controls are shared across all their models.
That have non sense in the States, you need a „Autobahn“ like in Germany..
We’d certainly like something like that here in Canada.
U couldn't CLEAN the damn first
What part of the car isn’t clean, princess? We literally took it through the car wash before filming all the exterior b-roll, and the interior was vacuumed before filming the interior.
Perpetual Radio Networks splatters on the front for one..lol..
Bugs? That’s your huge complaint? The dealer couldn’t even get it clean fully after an hour long detailing when we picked it up. If you get hung up on a couple bugs, this car isn’t for you. You’re going to be filling that front end up with them every day during the summer.
Somehow the "heavy set" tattooed guy test driving the classic CTS v doesn't match.
Somehow what you think about me doesn't matter.
Zed??...speak proper!
Proper? Or you mean conform to American pronunciation...
I think the issue is that the Z06's name is actually "zee oh six". That's it's proper name, regardless of how you pronounce the letter "Z".
How about washing the car. Cleaning the engine compartment and put some tire shine. I saw bugs all over the front and lots of dust. How can you be a true car guy with s dirty car on camera...wash it next time.
We’re getting a lot of complaints about this, it seems people can’t get past a few dried up bugs. First off, we washed the car before filming, you can even see the small amount of soap left under the hood of the car. Scraping off bugs from this kind of car was hard, even for GM who apologized to us for being unable to get it all cleaned before we took the keys. This kind of car is going to get covered during the summer, better to get used to it now.
dude just wash the car and clean the seats. it will only take about an hour
Here’s a quick lesson on suede, it looks dirty from one angle, and ‘clean’ from another.
Doesn't clean car before presenting...Engines compartment needs vents..10hp less + weight.. No folding mirrors.. Ill give u 30k
Lol, so many complainers because the car is ‘dirty’. Give me a break, this car was cleaned minutes before filming, yet no one gives any reasoning aside from the engine cover. Boo hoo.
+N.E.R.D analysts - Oh, you think the CTS-V is overpriced? Then name one 4 door car that can outperform it in every way for less money.
Dirty car up for review? That's a first. Needed a good detail job before hand not this sloppy job somebody did lol.
Where’s the dirt man? This was washed minutes before filming.