Suspension Specialist Fixes Rally-Raid Forks on CRF300L

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  • Опубліковано 26 січ 2024
  • Join us as a skilled suspension specialist fixes the Rally-Raid performance suspension on my Honda CRF300L dualsport bike.
    I traveled hundreds of kilometers to get this service done but it was definitely worth it. I will absolutely consider getting a new custom suspension setup done for my Tenere later there too. Would you like to see a detailed video series with these guys building a setup for the bigger bike too?
    I will be testing this newly serviced CRF300L setup at an Enduro track later. Will try do do that during winter if the track is driveable but if not its going to be in the spring at the latest.
    Even Chase Jarvis has been a customer at this awesome garage so servicing my little Honda was probably the easiest job they had that week 😊
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  • @PatchedBandit
    @PatchedBandit  Місяць тому

    Just got done riding a local Enduro track today. The track was very wet and muddy but there were a few spots where I could ride some whoops and I didnt bottom out even once. Night and day difference after this service! 🎉

  • @user-dv7hb2sc9m
    @user-dv7hb2sc9m 15 днів тому

    I've only just started looking around at the problems w/ this bike's suspension but I have to say that I've not seen ANY shop
    quite as clean or specialized as this one. Truly they've invested in doing this right. Some might wipe off the forks before
    working but these guys throw them in a bath. I'm amazed & I'll be looking for a place like this in America. Great video!

    • @user-dv7hb2sc9m
      @user-dv7hb2sc9m 15 днів тому

      This bike has such a soft front end that it's almost a danger for a front washout..... might get the ABS just to make
      sure not to have a problem but it's also b/c of all the varying conditions on the roads..... gravel/debris, ect.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  15 днів тому +1

      The stock setup is definitely super scetchy in many situations. Rally raid works amazingly now that it is properly installed.

    • @user-dv7hb2sc9m
      @user-dv7hb2sc9m 15 днів тому

      Yeah & I think if I do buy this Rally version I'll probably add the ABS package. Just to make sure I have better ability
      to stop w/o washing out the front end. I'm all subb'd UP so I'll be asking more later. peace

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  15 днів тому +1

      ABS works well offroad too so its overall a good option to have for most riders.

    • @user-dv7hb2sc9m
      @user-dv7hb2sc9m 15 днів тому

      I've been researching for 6months & have 7-8 dual sport bikes. I know each one of them including all the MOD's
      that would be needed & their costs. I've even figured out how feasible each upgrade/mod would be to get done
      but I've just found the Rally version, put it on my short list, and now I think I'm sold on it to fit my "Intent" for a
      bike. INTENT & Costs are the two main factors but I honestly don't think most guys have a clear vision of what
      they want a bike for...lol, other than to ride. I'm with you now so I'll be digging thru your stuff as I continue to
      save money for a purchase. The extra $$ for ABS might be a wise expenditure for me at my ago & ability.
      Thanks for posting the video & for your time. peace

  • @enduromotorradtouren
    @enduromotorradtouren 5 місяців тому +2

    Good luck with the tower build today. And thanks for this video. I was pretty sure it was exactly the problem you described. I have no experience with offroad suspension tuners yet, but I had one of the best in Germany for my (asphalt) racebike. Lots of question about you, your riding style, your laptimes, your tyres, your feeling... And then just perfect. Eye-opening. Worth every penny. Looking forward to seeing you come back on the motocross track with the little Honda. Happy days, Günter/Nürnberg

  • @advseeker
    @advseeker 5 місяців тому +3

    Great video, shows that suspension service is not so easy that you might think...

  • @Bicycle_Fungi
    @Bicycle_Fungi 5 місяців тому

    Excellent video. Incredible skills of those suspension specialists and very informative. Nicely done.

  • @ajcaine
    @ajcaine 5 місяців тому

    Glad you've got this sorted and pleased it was an installation issue not a problem with the RR hardware itself.

  • @thenorwegiannomad4672
    @thenorwegiannomad4672 5 місяців тому

    Looking forward to see what solutions you will implement for the tower

  • @stephanematis
    @stephanematis 5 місяців тому

    This was very instructional. Thank you for sharing.

  • @18S_TD
    @18S_TD 5 місяців тому +3

    Thanks for this. I’ll have to do the same for mine as I went word for word by the install instructions which called for the same amount of oil that was initially in yours.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  5 місяців тому

      Yep. The instructions are a bit unclear in my opinion too.

    • @18S_TD
      @18S_TD 5 місяців тому

      @@PatchedBandit I just serviced mine. Almost 600ml went into the left fork. It took forever to bleed the damper all the way. I also put more oil in the right leg to keep the spring lubricated better. I didn’t like hearing it grinding against the tube. Haven’t ridden it yet, but it seems to feel better.

    • @18S_TD
      @18S_TD 3 місяці тому

      ​@@PatchedBandit After doing some moderately hard riding, I was still bottoming out. I ordered a set of the 4.2N springs from Rally Raid and just installed them today. I’ll let you know how it goes after I ride again. I have the direct link to the springs that RR gave me if anyone needs them. I don’t think you can click to them from their website as they usually don’t sell them separate.

  • @MikaelALjungblad
    @MikaelALjungblad 5 місяців тому +1

    Very good and informative video. It is always interesting to follow proffessionals that are experts in their field. Your suspention looks very good now 😊👍

  • @uralicdneprov1806
    @uralicdneprov1806 Місяць тому

    I've installed RR L1 two weeks ago and found it quite easy. Half of the work is just new seals install. I didn't drill the tube, spring circlip is easy to remove by a pick or thin screw driver, no even need to disassemble the fork for that.
    The airing was easy too. Just follow the instructions and fill the cartridge from bottom. That way it's 90% aired before you even begin. Then bolt it tight and turn around. You can see oil level from the top, so just add more until the level is merely 10cm or at least visible and keep airing until damping works all the way up and no more bubbles can be heard. Check and fill the oil level. Done.
    What wave to do again and different, was new seal lubing. Lubing it with fork oil and wipe the rest resulted in significant stiction. I had to take it apart and lube both seals and dust covers with bearing grease. The result is much better but still not great. It seems like these dual compound seals has high stiction, unlike OEM hard NBR. Maybe it reduces over time with wear.

  • @carpenter751
    @carpenter751 5 місяців тому +1

    I installed the full size setup myself on my bike just a home mechanic but i followed one of rally raids videos that specifies the bleeding of this fork. Ralley Raid made the video but the instructions that come with the fork did not have the instructions that let me know how to properlly bleed the damper which is only on one fork leg so if your having problems just go to Rally Raids you tube channel watch that video and follow those directions to a T. Bleeding it takes alot of time from what i remember and you have to pour a little oil in at a time while covering the screw hole at the bottom of the fork while also cycling the fork up and down.
    Anyways the suspension is amazing and is so much better than stock. Stock suspension feels like a cheap bicycle when compared to this setup.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  5 місяців тому

      Very true. Stock setup is quite bad if one wants to ride a bit harder.

  • @jackpoell1673
    @jackpoell1673 5 місяців тому

    Keep up the good work!

  • @skybluetenere
    @skybluetenere 5 місяців тому

    Great insites👍🏼 I'm in the middle of the process to swap my T7 front and rear suspension so I'm really looking forward if you'll do some videos about it in spring.
    Enjoy the new setup 🏍️🏁

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  5 місяців тому

      Need to find some money before spring 😂 Thanks for commenting. What setup are you putting in the T7?

    • @skybluetenere
      @skybluetenere 5 місяців тому

      @@PatchedBandit I go with Öhlins shock and cartridge kit. Rear shock is installed already, fork to come.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  5 місяців тому

      @skybluetenere that should improve things 😄

  • @no66
    @no66 5 місяців тому +2

    Got my RRL1 so will be paying attention to airing and oli level. However, RR do say to fill up from the bottom to reduce the problem with air. In the RR vids and instructions.
    Looking forwards to a vid of you testing after the service.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  5 місяців тому +1

      Will be coming later for sure. First I will build the Rally Tower 🙂

    • @jeffloucks2120
      @jeffloucks2120 5 місяців тому +2

      Fill from the bottom just the specified amount of oil to get started. Then move to the top to do final filling to spec and bleeding air. I misinterpreted initially and kept filling more from the bottom and wound up way overfilling. Pretty easy job as long as you don't get caught out by those details.

    • @no66
      @no66 5 місяців тому

      @@PatchedBandit BTW, what volume cc of oil and mm from measure point did you end up with?

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  5 місяців тому +1

      Can't remember exactly but I think he added quite a bit after 500ml too. So at least more than 500 on the fork with the damping.

    • @no66
      @no66 5 місяців тому

      @@PatchedBandit thanks

  • @AceCarleton
    @AceCarleton 5 місяців тому

    Its super easy if you follow the instructions and fill the damping cartridge from the bottom. Rally raid has excellent instructions and excellent installation instructions.
    It was obvious that you had air in your forks in your last video.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  5 місяців тому +1

      I said it myself in the intro and people still said I’m makin RR look bad intentionally. I wonder if they even looked at the video.
      Most people like that I made these videos so we can all learn from mistakes and other peoples experiences.
      Im not making these videos for Rally Raid. Im making these for my audience.

    • @rallyraidproducts1927
      @rallyraidproducts1927 5 місяців тому

      We see everything 👀 love your content

  • @user-se7vt5ow4e
    @user-se7vt5ow4e 4 місяці тому

    Nice video. I did the YSS fork kit on my crf300 and YSS shock. The fork kit has the compression in the left leg and rebound in the right leg and works quite well. The YSS shock I am not very impressed with.

  • @jeffloucks2120
    @jeffloucks2120 5 місяців тому

    Glad you're getting it sorted out and looking foward to the video of testing it out.
    I probably missed some content... are you installing the One Adventure tower or another offering?

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  5 місяців тому

      Another one. It's a secret for a wee bit but as soon as I have time I will be posting more. But it looks AWESOME 😄

    • @jeffloucks2120
      @jeffloucks2120 5 місяців тому

      @@PatchedBandit Very cool ! Interested to see it.

  • @507sounds
    @507sounds 5 місяців тому

    Did you ever back off your fork preload after testing? : )
    I have questioned if my oil levels are correct. If I remember correctly, the L2 directions were to put 600ml in the spring only fork, and the 400ml remaining in the cartridge fork. It made sense, because the cartridge takes up volume, but ?. I have the stiffest 4.2N/mm springs, and bike starts to feel very harsh hitting little bumps at over about 5 clicks in on compression.
    Looking forward to your follow-up, testing both landing jumps and on 100mm+ rocks like a creek bed or rocky trail. It seems an elusive balance between comfortable road ride, not bottoming jumps and not bouncing around too much over rocks! Maybe a softer seat is required to alleviate the harsh road feedback?
    Thanks for another great video!

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  5 місяців тому

      Most bikes that perform well over jumps are a bit hard compared to basic road setups. I will post some more when I get to ride it proper after this service visit.
      I might upgrade the same 4.2 spring you have later if I feel that after I get a good test in first. But this is probably already so much better now that I might be fine with the current springrate.
      Oh and no I never backed out of the preload :)

  • @JRa537
    @JRa537 5 місяців тому

    Cool video! Have you tested the bike in action after the fix?

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  5 місяців тому +1

      Sadly no. No time to ride with all the video making and dayjob :D In a couple of weeks I will.

  • @a-p1831
    @a-p1831 5 місяців тому

    At the car air suspension is good thing but maybe not in the motorcycle, but if citroen makes motorcycle it would definitely have air suspension😂
    Thanks for the good vid!

  • @Allosaurus-B
    @Allosaurus-B 5 місяців тому

    excellent. what prices should we expect for this sort of work? i might visit finland and while in there get this done too.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  5 місяців тому

      They can probably give you quotes via e-mail in advance. You should book a day as early as you can as these guys are really busy at times 😄

    • @wmbushUT
      @wmbushUT 8 днів тому

      I just did full RallyRaid level 1 front/back and it cost me $500. I “interviewed” a few shops and went with power chicken in Heber UT USA. , they seemed to know what they were doing after talking to them and showing them the product, and all the interesting things I’ve learned from this video...What a amazing change!! Such a better bike now!!

  • @240LTS
    @240LTS 2 місяці тому

    ... What did you feel was wrong with the suspension that caused you to have it checked?
    Mine sags a bit too much for my liking. Maybe it is supposed to sag almost 2" w/o me on it?
    Jeff

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  2 місяці тому +1

      It was bottoming out very easily on an enduro track.
      Have you tried cranking up the preload on the fork? I have mine at full right now. I'm 82kg without gear and I went with the recommended springs according to my weight. But I could have easily gone with the hardest ones too. Mine seems good now though so I don't see a need to change them for the time being.

  • @aldearadu5219
    @aldearadu5219 5 місяців тому

    I m curious If You re gonna need to upgraded spring or îs IT enough

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  5 місяців тому +1

      I will be testing the bike on an enduro track later. Not sure if it's possible during winter but if the track is not too bad I will do it before spring.

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  • @gozamite
    @gozamite 5 місяців тому

    How much was this service? Did they change anything else than the oil?

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  5 місяців тому +1

      A bit from service ofcourse but I won't discolse any exact amount as it varies so much case by case. Better to ask pricing directly from them.

  • @theodorstravels
    @theodorstravels 5 місяців тому

    Have jumped with it yet? How is it?

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  5 місяців тому +1

      Havent had time to ride it yet but I will soon. I will post some video about it later.

  • @renzoblecich8590
    @renzoblecich8590 5 місяців тому

    do the Tenere please 🙂

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  5 місяців тому +1

      I will try to find some money before spring 😅

    • @renzoblecich8590
      @renzoblecich8590 5 місяців тому

      Take your time 😏@@PatchedBandit

  • @Birdfeeder795
    @Birdfeeder795 3 місяці тому

    Really good video. How tall are you? Trying to compare you to me in regards to what level I should go for. New sub from me.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for the sub! I'm 5 feet 8.5 inches (174 cm)

    • @Birdfeeder795
      @Birdfeeder795 2 місяці тому

      @@PatchedBandit Quality channel deserves a sub:) I’m going for the RR setup. I’m 182 so I’m wondering if I should go for the lvl2 setup. I don’t know if it would be ok or to tall.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  2 місяці тому +1

      I would probably go for the Level 2 if I was your height. You might regret going Level 1 later even though initially the bike is going to feel pretty tall. The Level 2 suspension is going to be much more competent and maybe even more comfortable. Even though the level 1 is definitely not bad either.

    • @Birdfeeder795
      @Birdfeeder795 2 місяці тому

      How are the suspension? Are they like MX or are they softer? Really not interested in MX like suspension on the bike.

  • @BERZERKERSV4
    @BERZERKERSV4 5 місяців тому

    No matter how much money you throw at the 300.. it's still a play bike at the end of the day..

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  5 місяців тому +2

      But I like to play 😊

    • @Birdfeeder795
      @Birdfeeder795 3 місяці тому

      Yeah, a play bike with 12000km oil intervals that can be ridden around the world at any time.

    • @agprime
      @agprime 20 днів тому

      If I can travel around my country with my Tonado 250 ( I am sure I can travel the world with it too), the Rally can do more than "play"

  • @sakariputtonen2683
    @sakariputtonen2683 Місяць тому

    TTM is good, but kinda "american" statement that they are the best. Suomessa on kuitenkin näitä iskariseppiä useampia. Hienoa että alusta tuli kuntoon.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  Місяць тому

      Olen valmis muuttamaan mielipiteeni, jos törmään parempaan 😁