8 Star Wars Prequel Moments George Lucas Planned Way Back In 1977
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Oh man, the midichlorians detail is huge. I never understood why that was so controversial but a lot of people think that the force was supposed to be this mysterious thing.
And it bugs me that people think midchlorians make the Force less mysterious. The only thing it makes is saying that some people are naturally more genetically gifted in the Force, which was pretty obvious since Luke, Leia and Vader were all Force sensitive and pretty strong in it
"The story was always about the father and the twins. But the father and General Vader weren't the same person" Lucas, paraphrased, a long time ago in a state far far away.
He originally planned the Emperor to be just a figure head being controlled by militant general, parallel to the warring states of ancient Japan before the Meiji Restoration.
Tagging on to your point about Vader, not only that, but Lucas also said that Vader got his injuries by falling into a volcanic pit way back in 1977
And it was Obi-Wan who defeated him in a duel over a volcano.
I read the Star Wars novelization more than 40 years ago, and I remember being stunned to see in ROTS how Vader's injuries beside a river of a lava so closely matched the original story line.
I don't know for sure when, but I definitely remember being told that, even before Phantom Menace came out.
@@MrChristianDT I know that it was in the novelization of Return Of The Jedi.
@@KevyNova Yup. In the introduction.
LoL "Agathaed all along!"
It was weird how originally Snoke's real name was Ralph Bohner.
@@solvseuswell, Liles was initially supposed to be Luke Stsrkiller. That's pretty well known.
Why is the last chapter titled "Medoran Allowed Jabba To Use The Force" Lmao
I wonder if Artoo could've save Threepio's memory on a drive somewhere and integrate it later.
iirc in one of the Disney movies, it's mentioned that R2 backs up 3PO's memory
(upon hearing the #1 entry)
No! NO! That's not true! That's IMPOSSIBLE!!
The empire did not overthrow the republic. The senate voted to give all power to Palatine, making him an emperor. The empire replaced the republic thru democratic vote.
Yee! You can’t overthrow if it’s yourself. The Galactic Republic became the Empire, it’s a reform of something.
Aaaah... No, that's not what happened. The Senate gave Palpatine emergency powers to become a dictator, but not in our current definition of the term, but rather in the meaning it had in Ancient Rome. As in, a person who was supposed to have larger power than usual to avoid voting lockdowns, always with the intention of giving that power back to the senate.
The Senate DID NOT vote for Palpatine to become emperor. There was no vote there. They just accepted out of fear of the alleged treason of the Jedi Order and to finish the Clone Wars for good.
Just like real life. We saw it with Nazi Germany in the 30’s and we’re about to see it again here in America 🙃🙃🥲
Go back and watch it again. He was granted emergency powers temporarily. He then abused that to seize power. That's literally the point of the film.
@@screaminscobes Temporarily in that no limit was placed on him. It was up to him to decide when temporarily was over.
And this is why I always respected George Lucas. I love the Prequels and the Originals equally. To me the sequels are not Canon. I only count the Prequels and Originals as Canon. In George Lucas vision I trust.
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I love the Prequels, Originals, and Sequels equally!
The sequels being bad doesn't mean the prequels are good. A third film of the original trilogy is pretty bad as well. Stop pretending they're good.
@@KaneRobot I’m not pretending. I genuinely like them. The prequels are called the prequels for a reason. They show what life was like before the original trilogy, the politics, the conflict, and everything that led to the formation of the galactic empire and the fall of the Jedi. Sorry but nobody is ever gonna convince me the prequels are bad. I enjoyed the prequels before the sequel trilogy was even a thing.
@@KaneRobot If you only like 2 out of the 6 Star Wars movies, then I guess Star Wars is not for you, and that’s fine. It will always be both the prequels and the originals for me.
And just think how there was a total lack of planning with disney wars
There is no lack of planning at all!
@@jayo1212 what are u babbling about? Its well known they didn't plan out the sequels. Farce afakens wasnt even finished when ruin johnson wrote lost jedi and then jar jar abrams had to try to undo his mess with the last one. Are u trying to make a joke or somehow more uninformed than a biden voter?
@@ChrisFerguson-zm4gt They definitely had it planned out from the beginning. Also, it's somehow more uninformed than a Trump voter.
@@jayo1212 ur something censornazi utube wont let me say! They did not plan it. Its common knowledge. Its not a secret. Google it and stop making a fool of urself. Oh nevermind u are what u are. (Again proof liberals are wrong on absolutely EVERY subject)
@@jayo1212 censornazi youtube
Thank you! 😃👍 ❤
The novel for episode 4 states clearly that C-3PO knew that he and R2-D2 had been together for a long time and thought that they had been through many memory wipes. That means that this was always there. It was after seeing the prequels and the line about wiping 3PO it made some of the things R2 did make sense. He knew what farm they were on, and hoped that Luke would go looking for him so he could get Luke and Obi-Wan together without Owen and Beru knowing. Chewbacca is another one. He knew who Luke was talking about when he said Yoda. But the big thing with him is shooting Ben Solo after Han died. Just think about all the pain and resentment he had against the Skywalkers. At this point he knew that Vader was Anakin.
The Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader part wasn't planned. You can tell that in the original Star Wars, Obi-Wan called Vader "Darth". Never again was Vader addressed as "Darth" ever again in any to the sequels or prequels.
Yeah true but it makes sense to me. In Obi Wan´s eyes Anakin died on Mustafar and Darth Vader rised. Could also be a coping-mechanism I think that Obi Wan takes a lot of blame on his own shoulders for letting Anakin turn into Darth Vader...
@@Paul-ik6jw he's referring to the use of "Darth" as a title. Darth Maul, Darth Vader, Darth Sidious etc. In the original movie, Darth is clearly just a first name
@Paul-ik6jw you're not wrong tho, that's what it evolved to once Vader became Luke's father. Then when Darth became a title in the early 90s, that line works even better, bc he's not even calling him by his name
Watch the fight scene of the kenobi series between obiwan and vader, obiwan says “goodbye darth”
@Commander99Cody that's not relevant at all, he's talking about the original movies
Where can you find the notes for the original backstories of the characters and factions? I’d love to read the rest of them.
Tell me the tale of how the sith had risen to power please dad .
There was a loop hole In the federation law son .
He made sure no other writer touched the Clone Wars for a very long time.
Now do "8 OT moments GL planned way back in 1977"...
Followed by "8 Sequel moments GL planned way back in 1977"...
Somewhere in about 1983 or 4, I had in my hands something that purported to be a samizdat copy of a 3 page synopsis of ALL 9 STAR WARS movies.
4 was perfect, of course, 5 was in keeping with what we were hearing, and IIRC it lasted as long as the release of sith... I mean 6. And that was close enough to make me believe.
Sadly I'm not enough of a fan to still have a copy, and that roommate says he doesn't either.
Wow…no wonder George hates the fandom now.
OT purists seething rn. Shouldn't have told them Midichlorians were always canon
Sure, but that doesn't mean that it wasn't stupid back then, too.
@@The_Toxic_Avenger And I still don't get the notion of hating an explanation many people had questions about.
No one was asking about it.
@@The_Toxic_Avenger ah yes, you speak for all Star Wars fans
I only speak for the ones who think midi-chlorians are stupid.
IT seems that, like a great many story tellers, ol' George benefits from editing of his own ideas.
To suggest that Star Wars has Tolkien level continuity is not only hilarious, but also somewhat offensive to Tolkien fans.
Yet your glorious king has no response as to why they didn't just fly the eagles to Mordor...
@@c4ctusc4ctusc4ctusthey would’ve been shot out of the sky
@@jakealter5504 and yet in all his infinite wisdom, Tolkein's best response was 'shut up'?... they couldve just flown higher eagles, don't make plane noises and they sure as shit didn't have any radar, could've also just flown right around the back of Mordor lmfao
@@c4ctusc4ctusc4ctus Sauron had other defenses
8 moments he did plan in 1977, 3720 he didn’t plan.
midichlorians are the powerhouse of the cell
Did they memory wipe Owen and beru to not recognize c3po?
How many years had it been since C3PO left Tatooine before he landed there in the escape pod with R2D2? About 20? That could be why Owen and Beru didn't remember him.
The last time Beru and Owen saw C3P0 he wasn't golden. He looked different the last time they saw each other, it was decades ago and there are tons of similar looking droids in the galaxy. Also in EP4 Owen doesn't even bother to properly listen C3P0 introduce himself. Owen just wants get over with the purchase ASAP.
First, I don't think Beru even saw 3PO at all in "A New Hope" and Owen only interacted with him for about 5 minutes (or less) before he told Luke to take him and R2 inside and clean them up. He never interacted again with either droid at after that. The next morning R2 was gone and Luke took 3PO out to look for him. Then the next time we see Beru and Owen they are smoldering corpses. So, there's a good chance that after 20 or more years, Owen didn't immediately connect the dots that this was the same droid from all those years ago.
No they weren’t. George Lucas didn’t even have Empire planned. He just fronts like he planned it all along.
You know he planned that part where jar jar stepped in poo before he did anything else.
Oof
2010 called: it wants its video back
its pronounced TantivEEEE
Now do "8 OT moments GL planned way back in 1977"... 40 minutes ago Did they remember Owen and Beru to not recognize c3po? Oof Forget Rinzler's book. Read How Star Wars Conquered the Universe by Chris Taylor. A thoroughly researched and (importantly) unbiased look at the writing of the original trilogy. Thank you! He didn't plan any of that in 1977. There is interview proof of him back in the day, that he thought of the wider scope after the movie's release. Last, Did the memory chip wipe was in the Bad Batch show I heard the voices was echo is back on live-action and Beru do recognize c3po?
You realize all of this was put into the prequels because George Lucas already thought about them. It's not like they were thought about in the future but someone put them in a movie made in the past. This video doesn't make sense as a "Look what George Lucas did way back when!"
thats one thing i think people mistake about george- its not that the prequels were bad cause he was surrounded by yes men- that just doesnt make sense you surround a buncha good artists around eachother you get a triple platinum single proof some of Georges best projects are coincided with Spielberg- artists bounce off eachother any fights are a personality thing not an art integrity thing. the reason old fans recieved it poorly is simply because it was too dense for them to parse. the longer these movies are in the publics memory we keep finding things about the prequels to appreciate and thats not an accident- it was done with love- everyone was giving a 110% trying to reach not only the funnest things they could do but literally improving the industries effects tool kit once again- like the 00s starting with this and the matrix just kept inventing new techniques and technological solutions to film making. and the public focus at the time was timid about increased cgi use. we still see it in some reviews today i know the tarkin and leia cgi for rogue one was really panned but when i saw it i honestly didnt get what they were talkin about. but all thats just to say we arent going to understand something so stuffed with long term treats and eastereggs- setups for the future movies or themes and parallels until some youtube guy makes an hour long special about it 10 years later. now me i was 9 when episode one came out and i still think 1 and 3 are int he same league as 4 and 5. easily. part of the reason is the care in the characters and events that stand out. it kinda feels like its a big song- i recognize scenes with very little detail simply because how iconic each movies visual focus gets- think about say the n1starship that design was only seen in episode 1 and its easily one of the best starfights georges art crew has ever pieced together- the droid vultures somehow gave the same feel and disposability of tie's while also being unique and having its own visual identity. thats something each prequel would do episode 2 centers the slave1 and the jedi starship is a brilliant call back to the a wing- they tighten up the space action and match empire with a chase in a meteor belt bein the main fight- they also introduce the criminal underground (and its connection to the emperor) just like bespin space port would in empire. the ryhming thing is real they even disarm the party by making them meet someone they know. just this time its eachother as the party converges and will have to escape the bad guys plan- also lured there by promise the emperor would stop by. also its subtly implied anakins crazy spiral into genocidal madness is the vision that invades luke in empire while hes trying to fight the darnkess in degobah. like i said its so fucking dense no wonder audiences couldnt just get it- too distracted by the things they thought they could understand. also people in general just hate jarjar for no ass reason he has three comedic scenes in the entire movie- after that hes barely a c3p0 stand in with like one liners and the resident coward with a heart. like yall got way too high off your smug on that one hes not that bad. plus the actor is a genuinely cool guy and didnt deserve the heat as did none of the face actors cause boy did the audience do them dirty and im glad they get to see the fans who love em cheer em on now. i could gush for 80 more walls of text about these 6 films- yeah even return of the jedi. dudes a damn good storyteller and the worst starwars movie is still prolly a better movie than many others get to be. (cept episode 9 what the fuck was jj doing with that?)
you ok bro?
@@solvseus clearly. i just say alot.
you are mistaken: in the original trilogy, he had other directors, and dialogue writers, in the prequel trilogy, nobody else stepped in to take care of things that Lucas knew he had weaknesses in. it's why the dialogue is so clunky, and some of the acting is wooden.
@@kenbrown2808 the dialog in starwars is consistently out there. thats not a unique feature to the prequels and no pushback would change what "weakness' perceived or otherwise- and it becomes quite clear most people just got hype disappointment and reached for every straw to try to explian why- yall just got caught in the hypecycle and once you were in it your expectations were going to be impossible.
and and- i cant reasonably find a way to change the dialog that would do the same thing but be more palatable to the artistically illiterate. if you walk into a new hope with the same critical mindset youre gonna call luke whiny, han misogynistic (thats why harrison ford wasnt a fan hed rather be indiana.) leia got damseled in empire we just didnt care- like i could go on you could be super critical of anything and find something to present as poorly acted or bad dialog- cause thats all taste not objective- what pushback would even be useful XD just no those movies were goated and it immediately becomes obvious because none of the disney movies measure up to them. hey hey solo had good dialog and natural sounding drama- people still didnt like it as much- theres a reason for that.
@@36inc you're conflating legitimate criticism with fan disappointment. yes, Luke was whiny, and Han brash. yes, some of the dialogue in A New Hope was clunky. not coincidentally, Lucas did more of the dialogue and directing of A New Hope, than he did of Empire and Jedi. but you're here mistaking "it wasn't as good as it could have been, because Lucas didn't get the help he asked for" with "worst movie ever because it didn't have the plot element I wanted"
the key difference between episodes 1-6 and the disney releases is Disney retconned everything they would have had to pay royalties on, and made up the story arcs as they went. Solo had dialogue, but what it didn't have is the story arc that has already been established for Han Solo's life for decades.
Having C3PO being built by a child is fine, having the child be Anakin is silly
Forget Rinzler's book. Read How Star Wars Conquered the Universe by Chris Taylor. A thoroughly researched and (importantly) unbiased look at the writing of the original trilogy.
Let’s be honest, the prequels are NOWHERE NEAR as divisive as the sequels are nowadays, and that can be attributed to one person. …Ruin Johnson and his film that nearly destroyed the franchise
Then somehow JJ Abrams returned...
That’s some major recency bias. At the time, the prequels were incredibly divisive, at least as much so as the sequels. And ‘divisive’ is being polite.
Then you clearly weren't an active part of the fanbase in the late 90s/early 00s...because the prequels caused HUGE disturbances in the Force amongst us OG fans. It was ugly
@@razorfett147 sooo ugly. “George Lucas ruined my childhood.” Was a meme. They were despised.
@@solvseus *JarJar Abrams
Thanks for this
I needed the laugh today
Also...in the future, try to avoid drinking Kool-aid sold by flannel wearing has-beens with revisionist disorders
Seek help
@@bustercherry6969Why? George Lucas is a revisionist. Hell he completely revised who can and can’t use the Force for God sake.
He didn't plan any of that in 1977. There is interview proof of him back in the day, that he thought of the wider scope after the movie release.
Wrong! The novelisation of Star Wars released in 1976 features a prologue written by Lucas (the rest of the novel was ghost written by Alan Dean Foster) that outlines the overall plot of the prequels and how Palpatine became Emperor so he had it planned out going back to his original drafts in 75/76.
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Buddy, knock it off. George didn't plan ANY of this.
Face it, Lucas has a knack for destroying his own stories with some real garbage
The stormtroopers ISN'T clones! In Empire clons ISN'T have a place! The stormtroopers was another persons!
BTW: i heard, that in rebels , that been on Endor,was a Rex, one ex-commander of clones (with a grey beard)! Thats mean, that clones ISN'T been on served Empire, so as been is very old for that!
And i CAN'T believe, that Leia was sister of LS. Grand Magister Yoda say about another Skywalker,as about man, NOT woman! Yoda said about Jake Skymilker, sorry, Skywalker,a Twin -brother,who was in sequels, NOT REAL LUKE! MARK HAMILL SAY THAT! He said:"He ISN'T my Luke! It's a Jake Skywalker! He know a much more,then we!
Oh, yes, seqvels ISN'T CANON!!! "Thanks,"Drisney"!😡
Where'd you learn your grammar from? Master Yoda?
You're using words, but none of them are right. Don't drink and type.
Me Tarzan you Jane
I'm not going to go the route of the above commenters, but I will say that they are referring in this video specifically to clone troopers, which are very clearly clones produced on Camino, and are the source of the term Clone Wars, which Leia brings up in the very first movie.
I can only assume English is not your 1st language.
I really hope English is not your 1st language.
All of this is False - George had nothing planned in 1977 and he needed the help of Gary Kurtz and Brian DePalma and Willard Huyck & Gloria Katz to make the script work for the first movie without them helping him rewrite it the movie would have failed miserably.
Narrator awful
Trolling, your post is? Master Yoda, you talk like? Awful, your mum is?