IN DEPTH review of the Sony A6600 - the flagship APSC Alpha! Check prices at B&H: bhpho.to/30HT26V Buy Gordon a coffee: www.paypal.me/cameralabs Gordon's In Camera book at Amazon: amzn.to/2n61PfI / Amazon uk: amzn.to/2mBqRVZ Like Cameralabs? Get the T-Shirt: redbubble.com/people/cameralabs/shop 01:08 - design and controls 01:54 - battery life 02:51 - grip 03:10 - memory card slots 03:47 - ports and jacks 04:35 - hotshoe and digital microphone 05:08 - viewfinder 05:47 - screen shape, articulation and touch 07:16 - sensor and autofocus 08:42 - bursts and continuous shooting 10:38 - stabilisation for photos 11:34 - photo quality 14:09 - movie quality and features 21:00 - vlogging test - with NEW footage and mic test! 24:57 - lenses 26:15 - verdict and comparisons with rivals
In regards to in body stabilization, I wonder if the firmware updates since the release of the A6500 has made it worse. I've got a A6500 and since the last firmware update it seemed to me that it isn't as effective as it used to be. I wonder if there's anyway to compare an original firmware A6500 with the new A6600.
@@zbdot73 IBIS is exactly the same. Everything in this camera is exactly the same as a6500. Some improvement only in AF through firmware and the better battery. The hardware including IBIS is 90% the same as a6500. The price for this camera is not worth. Sony is trying to sell an old camera at a high price.
@@ElReySupr3me Traditionally, it was. It's just that Panasonic has spoiled us so much with their excellent stabilization that now we expect every camera to produce steady video even when we're walking around with them. I don't think that level of stabilization will ever fit in those very slender Sony bodies, though.
I think Sony IBIS is not terrible for video, but really it's much better for stills. If I needed a camera for video and really needed IBIS, the Sony cameras would not be my first choice. On the other hand, if I would be ok with a gimbal , then these cameras are pretty outstanding. The unlimited recording limit, great auto-focus, and battery life are just killer features for anyone who's going to be doing a lot of video shooting.
Great review as usual! My thoughts would be A6100: great autofocus for less money A6400: best bang for the buck in general A6600: great battery life for a aps mirrorless. In case you're looking for a specific feature apart from the things I put above, you should look for other cameras before.
Can’t help but feel quite let down by this update. They could have done quite a bit more but at just $100 less than an X-T3, it just doesn’t look nearly as appealing compared to the a6400 versus the X-T30. Not at all a bad camera, but for that price, oof. An a7iii with 28-75 f/2.8 or a6600 with the 16-55 f/2.8? Z battery is real nice though. That’s probably the single biggest upgrade.
Gordon, you (and every other reviewer) totally missed the most important upgrade in the A6600. The memory card slot has been rotated 90 degrees so it no longer requires tweezers to remove the card! Hallelujah! All kidding aside, this seems to be typical of Sony upgrades. Add a couple upgrades that folks have been asking for, but leave off some other easily doable upgrades (full touch implementation, colored AF reticle as per the A7RIV) and even take away a few features for no apparent reason. (in body flash and IBS on the A6400). That, and leaving a few badly needed upgrades (better VF, deeper buffer, UHS II memory card slot, joy stick) on the lab bench, ready to go but held out until the next upgrade when they will give us just enough to tempt us without putting it all on the table. Sony is not alone in this marketing scheme, they all do it but it certainly is irritating to say the least.
DreamArena It’s like I said above. They dole all these features out One at a time on each new model. Hopefully to entice you to trade in your A6600 for an A6700 and then an A6800 etc etc
Appreciate the hands on video test. The IS was pretty bad. The noise cancelling feature was like a tin can echo. The rolling shutter or jelly screen was pretty bad also. But understanding the limitations brings solutions. Use a tripod and gimbal to stabilise. Standard audio was good, and external mic even better. Good detailed review 👍
Gordon, thanks for this extremely detailed test, as usual. I am a Sony APS-C user for a long time, having purchased, lately, the A6500. I am really fed up with Sony playing around with these ridiculous ergonomic bodies, even the full frame models, A7, don’t have an ergonomic body to write home about. I am just waiting for the Fuji X-H2, with XT-3 sensor, in body stabilization (Sony stabilization is a joke one), seriously color science, to switch and never go back. Hopefully they will include the vari-angle monitor, applied to the new Fuji X-A7. It will be a killer camera! Canon, Nikon, Sony, beware! Sony has been playing around with it’s customers, for a long time, sure, with top leading phase detect auto focus, but not really truly innovative where they could. Come on, why never a vari-angle monitor? Why never a really touch functionality. They will pay the price. XT-3 is already an excellent camera, just lacking the stabilization. Why: because Fuji listen to it’s customers.
Welp the XH-2 doesn't exist yet, (probably coming somewhat soon finally) and there's the A7S III and A7IV which have a lot wishes fulfilled. The X-T4 AF is worse than the XT-3. Hopefully Fuji has something groundbreaking
Sony unfortunately seems to know where the market is going as the demand and industry shrinks because phones can do so much, which is the prices are consistently going up
Thank you for a very good review (as always Gordon), I'm even more convinced now that the A6400 seems to be the most honest Sony APS-C right now. You're getting great value for your buck and price wise I cannot complaint that IBIS isn't there or the battery issue. The sensor, AF, HLG, no limit video recording, _all_ that is only plus-plus-plus... for me. I already have an A7III with two FF lenses, I can switch back and forth according to my needs. The A6400 will be my second camera for interviews (replacing the trusty A5100) as soon as I stop buying guitar gear (oh well, still my primary business..) . Cheers!
Currently I'm grappling with the decision of buying the A6400 or the A6600, and I'm more and more convinced that the IBIS on the A6600 is not worth the extra money (I don't care about the battery). I'd buy the A6400 knowing that I'll use it on a gimbal and I'd buy a gimbal with the money I save purchasing the A6400 and not the A6600.
I bought a6600 at adorama for 1100 the a6400 is 998 watch the difference see what makes sense I got the a66 over the a64 plus after sales will be good also
The ridiculousness of Sony's approach to small compact cameras is painfully obvious from your choice of lens to show this camera with. The lens is twice a big as the body, probably weighs twice as much and is just as expensive. So a $1400 compact camera body turns into a $3k usable camera the size of a Sony full frame kit, that is anything but small and compact. Why bother when the A7mk3 is $600 more and probably the same slightly used at KEH or Ebay.
Actually the new 16-55mm f2.8 lens is remarkably light and felt well-balanced on the A6600, especially with its bigger grip than before - I really enjoyed shooting with them both. But as I pointed out, the combo isn't cheap and there are compelling full-frame alternative combos.
Feels like Sony is now borrowing Canon's cripple hammer to protect their FF lineup too. Even if they brought out those two lenses, I'd not trust them enough to be really invested into APS-C, and their APS-C line still feels like just an entry drug to get you into the full frame world, in other words, (expensive) APS-C lenses feel more like wasted money. Personally, I'd avoid them and use FF lenses, or cheaper ones, until it's time to get the FF body too, or if I'm sure APS-C is enough, stick to Fuji who might not be the leader in terms of autofocus speed etc., but don't hold back or cripple either. And sometimes I wonder what would be if Samsung was still in the game...
Fuji's autofocus speed and eye detect accuracy is pretty good, anyone interested can watch videos on my channel, I always use eye detect AFC and it has NEVER failed to keep my face in focus. I don't know what would be 'better' than this. The lens selection matters with Fuji though, as I use one of their newer and expensive lenses.
Sony is borrowing NOTHING from crippled Canon,and in fact,they passed them right by a long time ago.Canon came out in 2019,with ONE card slot,no IBIS(which they had in their own sub $500 camera in 2009),etc,etc,and had the gall to ask for $3000, as if the EOS R was a professional camera.Sony also has a full complement of A mount,E mount,G series,and third party lenses,and that also is a fact.These 5100-6600 offerings target certain demographics,yet seem strange because they have multiple models instead of narrowing things down.I do not know what this opinionated mess with Sony is,yet people just need to deal with the FACT that a consumer electronics company has passed by these so called icons of the camera world,at their own game. I find that hilarious and sickening that such former beasts in the industry dropped the ball.Whatever Sony is doing,they are still learning,while they make PlayStation,TVs,and provide financial services.I used to shoot Sony until the camera got damaged,and my FF camera now has a Sony sensor.Now it's Sony who has led the pack in innovation,along with Fuji,Panasonic,and everyone else EXCEPT Nikon and Canon.oh,and I would not bother with APS-C glass anyway,unless it either came with the kit or was close to free.
@@michaels8597 I think you misunderstood him. He's not saying that Sony is borrowing any camera tech from Canon, but Canon's "cripple hammer", meaning the concept of intentionally crippling one's own products. Like Canon continues to release obsolete products with features copy&pasted from their earlier products and/or removing essential features, so is Sony now releasing this a6600 that has only features copy&pasted from their earlier products and removed some.
@@marcus3d .. First of all,the cameras that Sony tends to make similar are not full frame,they are APS-C.They covered their full frame with fast/A9,with higher MP,and then with affordable FF with advanced AF.Canon has NOT done this,at all,so I deal with FACTS. Now I dont agree with all those models,like 5100,6000,6300,6400,6600,etc,etc,yet it gives Sony a chance to cover the bases for what everyone might want.Plus,when they do come out with their FF products they do NOT cripple them with inferior AF,crops,one card slot,etc,and no IBIS.Thus,like I said,there is no comparison,because it's two entirely different animals...next???
@@michaels8597 You are clearly not reading what I and Chrisso are writing. Nobody said that Sony is crippling their FF cameras. Nobody said that Sony is copying Canon.
Thanks so much for another great review. I am going to skip this one for sure. I have the a6400 and a6500 and don't feel the need to switch primarily for the Z battery. My pile of W batteries while less convenient do the trick. Cheers.
@@cameralabs Just got the Crane M2 and for the a6400 and kit lens it works a treat and will work with my RX100vii and some of my other point and shoot and action cameras. Great little gimbal.
That stabilisation quality should be charged at 50-100 extra dollar at most but not as much as it is now , extra charge is rip off for what it provides,seriously--- got a6400 and ronin sc gimbal for that saved difference price and its super combo -SUPER stable!!!, can use any mirorrles with it plus tracking feature and more stuff
Hi. Just out of curiosity. Have heard people criticising the a6400/Ronin SC combination, but by the sounds of it you are OK with it. Any examples of your experiences?
Thanks for the great review. I'm VERY disappointed by Sony's handling of fullHD video. They have CPU capability to downsample 6K video to 4k, but they are "unable" to further downsample to 1080p? I feel like a6600 is finished a6500 - I mean what a6500 should be. Without screen dimming or display off while filming with external display. There is absolutely no progress for me. I would buy it if the full HD video is better (even with this obsolete codec and bitrate), but now I have to find some new platform for video :-/
Amazing informative review, i have owned the a6500 for about 18 months and just recently sold it. Was weighing up between and XT3 and the a6600 and i think im going to go for the XT3 as it is a great hybrid and while it may not have built in IBIS it wouldnt be much if any different than the a6500 / a6600 which has below average IBIS anyway. All i will need is a gimbal for filming. One question though, does built in IBIS help take photos? I mean surely if i have steady hands i wont need IBIS? Cheers mate.
Glad to see they have notably improved out of camera color. Always upsets me when coming back from vacation and combining my cell phone and a6000 jpeg shots to see that in nearly 100% of the cases the cell phone has much more accurate, natural and pleasing color. I have never been able to take a jpeg out of the a6000 without feeling the need to improve the color and contrast (and sharpness).
a very thorough and honest review Gordon. As you say - a7iii and tamron 28-75 is tempting.. or a6100 and a usb power pack (I'm right in thinking the a6100 also supports usb power) - or a6400 + power pack if you want better build/better evf - I think right now a6100/a6400 are similar prices at least PS Did I miss my mate Steven seagull again? :D
The lack of pop-up flash doesn't bother me one bit. In the almost twenty-years I have been shooting digital, I have only used the pop-up a vey few times. I am wedded to the Godox/Flashpoint system - either on camera or with the use of the Godox/Flashpoint trigger. I use a lot of lenses, both modern and Legacy that don't have image stabilization. The IBIS of the A6600 helps a bit. My favorite upgrade is the Z=Battery - especially since I often shoot with the A6600 in conjunction with my A7iii; it is nice to use identical batteries with both cameras. Makes packing for trips and jobs easier. The lack of a dual card shot doesn't bother me since I no longer shoot professionally. I would like a 1/8000 second mechanical shutter since I often shoot outdoors wide open with fast lenses... I like the A6600 with 28-75mm f/2.8 Tamron lens, with the 70-350mm Sony and with the 14mm f/2.8 Rokinon...
I recorded at 60Mbit for that clip to see how long I could record for on the big battery. if I'd chosen 100Mbit, i'd have filled the card at about 2hrs. Plus I film for UA-cam, so even 60 is overkill.
Missing in all the reviews to date is the most important statistic...which camera do actual people tend to use when they have various cameras lying around --- the large/heavy one or the lighter, more compact one?! I have a sony a6000 and love it's small size for traveling and shooting quickly. I now want to upgrade and was torn between the sony a6600 and the Sony A7III so I went to a local camera store and picked up the a7iii plus had them put on a full frame lens. The a7iii camera was SO heavy and cumbersome in my hands that it was a huge turn off. When traveling or shooting internationally or even locally a large camera-lens set up feels very intrusive. Unless you are a pro, what counts is what camera you will ACTUALLY USE, NOT what takes the best picture. I've read so many times about the expensive DSLR cameras sitting around idly because they are simply too cumbersome. THIS issue, of weight and size, -and the A7III has a HUGE weight and size issue because of the expensive, long, and thick lenses, compared to the Sony a6600, is rarely addressed adequately. Again, a REAL WORLD survey of what cameras people reach for would show (my bet) that the smaller, lighter, easier to maneuver body/lens set up wins hands down (in terms of frequency of use).
Even as a pro crop is a valid option the image quality is so good on crop sensors they are more than up to the task of professional photo shoots. I've be using crop exclusively for professional work for the past 3 years.
Thanks for the very complete review. I'm personally underwhelmed. The delta between going prices on Kijiji and the price of the a6600 (excluding sales tax) is about $1,000 CDN. For that, you get better focusing and a bigger battery, but you lose the onboard flash. While it's true that the onboard flash is useless for pro shooting, it comes in handy for family pix as a fill flash and I like it on the a6500. Quite simply, the a6600 is not IMHO worthy of an extra $1,000. I'm tempted to find a nice used a7III and upgrade to full-frame for roughly the same difference in price.
It depends how good the OIS was on that particular lens. Some of them are very good, but others less so. For instance, the 16-50mm kit zoom doesn't have great OIS. I'm also finding out how the IBIS works with lenses with OIS, but when I used the 70-250mm on it which does have OIS, the stabilisation was ok but still not amazing.
One thing that bothers me about most mirrorless camera is that there's zero sensor protection when the lens is off. Just add some kind of protector ffs.
I might buy one of these for the IBIS, because I do stills with full manual lenses. My a5100 with OSS 16-50 kit lens will do a 1/4 second handheld still and have no hand shake. Is the IBIS as good on stills as the 16-50 kit lens? Being able to do handheld stills with longer shutter speeds and my manual lenses might make the a6600 worth buying for me. I'd appreciate any feedback, also from a6500 owners.
Most reviewers are obsessed with video unfortunately, they are by definition UA-camrs and so can't help being overtly videocentric despite the vast majority of people who buy these cameras rarely shooting video. I am also interested in how well the IBIS compares to in lens options for STILLS.
@@ceddo2511 Thanks for the reply. Maybe Gordon will do an update with some stills and handshake/camerashake testing? My little Sony HX99 is fantastic IBIS for handheld stills, I've done 1 sec shutter stills razor sharp. The a5100 and OSS kit lens almost as stable. But being able to use my f1.4 and f1.8 manual lenses with a decent IBIS body would be magic.
Hi! Thank's for video! Please tell me one thing. Do'se pulsing the af sistem when it set in AF-C and the apperture are need to be close (16 or 22)? Thank's a lot!
If you're located in Southern California, someone is selling brand new units of the Sony a6600 for $1080 no tax. I was so happy I bought 2 and thought I'd share. Just go on OfferUp and search for a6600!
Sony is true in that when you use lens like 16-55G, your pop up flash will be blocked by lens body and created huge shadow that actually covers 1/4 of the area left bottom provided you shoot at wide angle.
A6600 + 16-55 2.8 sounds like a great one lens travel camera. Good low light performance, wide enough with decent zoom range, superb battery life, flip out screen for those who care about travel selfies/vlogging, all without the size and weight of a FF. If money was no object I'd gladly buy one right away, but $2800 is just way too steep.
I'm not convinced. A Sony a7 III with their 24-105 F/4 would currently be cheaper and do more. Keep in mind that not all f/2.8 apertures are equal. You have to consider crop factor => an f/2.8 lens on APS-C delivers the same results as an f/4 lens on full frame. The a7 III combo mentioned above would be about the same weight and size as the a6600 combo, but cheaper - and offer more zoom range.
Another great video. I want to move to 4K recording what would you recommend A6400 or Canon 90D I’m not good with cameras still learning the M50 thanks
I am really disappointed that it still use the same old, slow sensor. The MP count doesn't bother me but the rolling shutter is really a problem. I don't even care about 4K60 ... but at least they could have improve the current 1080p/4K codec or give me a pixel binned 4K to get rid of the rolling shutter. Also, I don't like that they neglect their APSC eco system ... I will keep my A6300 for now but I think I am going to switch to Fuji or Canon EF-M when time come to upgrade.
No, but it will let you use it with an analogue pass through ad I show that later in the video. But yes, disappointing it doesn't have the A7r IV pins.
Gordon, you are 99% on the a6600. Here's my take on the camera. The way they used older tech (more on this later) and the pricing, I think Sony is making users favor the a6400. As you correctly pointed out, the advantages of the a6600 is basically the audio out, IBIS, fz-100 battery. The IBIS is basically moot as it is only useful in photos, not for video. It only will perform relatively well with a lens with OSS. And even that, a combined LIS + IBIS, sometimes, the stabilization is still not on par with its competitors. I was hoping that Sony cou;ld have at least improved on this. But I suppose that would mean, using a new sensor assy and not be in line with the rest of the new a6xxx family. I think Sony is really after the sub U$1,000. I am not sure why you have to release an a6600 at that price. I'd say, there will be more takers at U$1,100 or U$1,200. But for it to go that price point, will take about 2 years. So, the way I see it, only few and those who really need the things listed will go for it. The a6400 is really the sweet spot. I know I'd go for that model and save myself U$500 in the process. Since IBIS is really useless in practice, the only 2 remaining features that are really important and lacking in the a6400 is the audio out, and fz100. To most, that' is not worth paying an extra U$500, unless you really want those in the camera. The loss of the pop-up flash may not be a big deal for many in the a6600. My take on the use of older tech is - Sony will likely want that on the next round. Why do that? Well, I think it's because the A9-2 and the A7S-3 will have the next generation sensor and IBIS. To put them here now, is to tip their hand early and maybe even steal the drama/thunder of the A9-2. I also believe that Sony, at this time, now targetting Canon's base. They've got Nikon in the past 2 years, now it's Canon. In a shrinking market, there really is no other place to grow - except if you can steal your competitor's customers. And this is why we have 3 aps-c cameras released in 1 year! And 2 aps-c lenses added. I find the 16-55 f2.8 G too expensive though. The 70-350 could use a U$150 price reduction too. Though I think this will sell well to those shooting birds, sports outdoors. There is the FE 70-300 for a few dollars more, but I think it's size and weight, plus slower AF will not be on par with the aps- c lens. I suppose if you have a 35FF sony, you would be best to go that route. Will this strategy work? We will know in the 1st quarter report of Sony and Canon. In my opinion, it will sway many to switch, except the die hard who are brand loyal to the core. But the specs/performance is really way ahead of anything Canon has. Even if you bought the a6100, it's AF tracking is so superior that soccer mom's will have few blurred or OOF shots. In a budget, the a6100 + 55-210 is a cheap outdoor action camera for those who don't want to spend much. What Sony has done is to keep the photo-AF,-video basically on par across the board (minus the presets in the a6100). So, you can expect the same performance across the camera models. They differ only in some areas you may want such as better body, weather sealing, audio out, IBIS, eye-focus in video, etc. That may or may not be important to some, but then again, that is Sony's strategy for differentiation, like it or not. Personally, I like that better than what Canon's basis for segmentation which is true crippling to me. In line with these developments, I have no doubt in my mind, that Canon will announce an RF mount aps-c in the next 6 months. That goes the same for Nikon. They simply have to now. As the bleeding will continue. But at the same time, before the year is over, Sony will likely launch the a9-2, if the rumor is right. This in effect, will target the last bastion of dominance of the duopoly. And we will likely see the next generation of sensor and processor it. And if the timing is on cue, expect to see that on the A7-4 after the 2020 Olympics. In effect, Sony is consolidating and moving the bar ever higher so the others will keep trying to catch up. Right now, the bar is the A7-3, but by the time they manage to get to that, the A7-4, with the A9-2 and A7S-3 tech will have been the next barrier to hurdle. What of the a6xxx or aps-c line? Sadly, it will lieley be status quo till maybe 2021, where it can be upgraded again using the latest tech. Maybe, we''ll also see a shift to the fz-100 battery by then, thus solving one of the sticky points in the aps-c line. As it is, it's really only Fuji who can match up or beat Sony on this segment. But Sony is not (yet) worried as their main goal is not to match up with Fuji at this time, but to erode Canon's aps-c customer base. They want to do it now, while their RF aps-c and Nikon's Z mount aps-c are still on the drawing board. Also, since their tech is still no match to Sony, there really is no reason to release a next gen sensor. They use the same 3-5 year old tech.. Because Canikon is really about 3-5 years behind! They will deploy the latest tech once the A9-2 is released. But i think we will see those already in 2021. Not unless, Sony is also thinking of launching a new line - the A7000 series. And this will be the one to square off with the XT-3 and have 4k-60p in the aps-c family. On the surface, these Sony moves seem weak. OTOH, these releases seem not to really address the current Sony base. This is more to woo the canon or other brand users. The a6600 and the 16-55 is overpriced IMO. But then again, I think Sony wants us more to get the a6400 and the a6100. And that plays really well to getting sticking it to the m6-2 or anything else they can come up with. As for Nikon, well, we know they are not competing at all, since by default, they don't have an aps-c MILC. DSLR sales are tumbling, hence the need for everyone to contract/consolidate the aps-c DSLR line. No more 7D-3 or in Nikon's case, likely no more D500, and many D5xxx. In summary, this releases may seem weak or disappointing. To existing Sony users, they are. But to those at the other side of the fence, these are 5 years way better than what Canon or Nikon has now, MILC or even DSLR! So, the target market here is basically Canon and NIkon. It's not for the Sony fans. We will know if this strategy worked only at the last quarter report and 1st quarter report in 2020. For now, we just have to live with what Sony is offering. Take it or leave it. But then again, if you really look at it and get mad and furious at Sony, what other brand is there to go to? Surely not Canon's M series? Nikon doesn't have an aps-c MILC. And DSLRs are dying so to get one now may not offer upward growth. Panasonic and Olympus have no aps-c, only MFT, and that market is even questionable, not counting that MFT combined is not that many to steal customers from. It's Canon who has the biggest. So, I can only conclude that this move is to steal away customers from Canon and Nikon as the market contracts. Otherwise, why even bother with 3 x aps-c cameras in 1 year?
After doing a lot of research on synthesizers, I suddenly realized it was in many cases the presets of sounds that made the difference between many of them. The Korg Triton can do anything and so does the Roland JD-XA. But the Roland has horrible presets. I think its the same with cameras. The difference between a Canon and a Fuji colors has to do with presets. The King Korg you can connect to a computer and change whatever you like of the sound. I think the first camera manufacturer that produce a camera that you can alter the colors in will be doing ................
I went from the GH4 which I loved to a Canon 80D purely because of auto focus. The 80D was great but it was only 1080p and wasn't great in LOW light. So after much deliberation and many camera review videos I decided to give Sony a go and bought the A6300 for £400 off eBay. I also bought the 18-105 f4 lens. Wow fucking awesome camera VERY happy. Now I wan't this the A6600. The AF looks amazing and the HLG profile looks to be great along with better low light performance overall it looks like my next camera, just need to get saving.
apart from the longer battery and video record time i guess i'll keep the a6500 for now as i see not many differences as my primary use is photos not video
Unlimited 4K video recording with excellent quality and full-speed reliable tracking autofocus, hmm, really appealing. The E mount lens system is the superior today of any others, giving the option to upgrade to beasts like A9, A7III, A7RIV. Definitely, X-T3 is ok, but it's an esoteric X-mount world, I was there, APS-C only, a kind of dead-end. I recently visited a Tamron and Sigma showroom, and I spent there a number of long hours experimenting with their brilliant lenses specifically designed for Sony E mount. This was really eye opening, Sony, Zeiss (Loxia, Batis), Sigma, Tamron all are churning out excellent lenses. You haven't mentioned the PZ18-110OSS, which is a beast of a video lens, available only for E mount. In this context, Fujifilm is really a tiny system, very small market. Wise people suggest to buy into a system and not into a single camera. I think you were totally right when you explained that the biggest competitor is the A7III, the king of mirrorless cameras today with its price and features. The A7III doesn't have the new tracking AF, but its photo and video AF is terrific. Who cares an esoteric Fujifilm gizmos when the A7III is here. With the most recent price drops and firmware updates even the Z6 is a severe competitor, too. It has no video eye AF, but its video AF in general is OK, Z6 has the 30-minute limited recording, but it's full frame and part of the impressive Nikon lens ecosystem.
As I hopefully pointed out, it is lacking some things you would perhaps expect at this price, but equally it does have things that rivals don't, so it's a tricky balance.Iff they added twin UHS II card slots, a higher res EVF, joystick etc, the price would become even closer to the A7 III. What features would you have liked to see, and how much would you be willing to pay?
@@cameralabs 2k for example, and 10-bit video. Maybe uncompressed raw, which might be handy in certain circumstances. And more small thing - little bit better app for camera. I guess these kinds of apps is kinda same, but Sony's imagine edge mobile requires android 6.0, while my phone have only 5.0, and no higher. Fuji app can work at android 5.0, and for video and photo framing I found small tilting up screen not that helpful - couple feet from camera and you barely can see it, and you still need to release the shutter button, and personally for me these apps is free replacement of remote control for shutter with possibility of framing your shot. But most importantly - proper touch screen :(
Thanks for the informative review I'm looking for a camera for my church since we are doing service in stay at home. I believe the longer battery life is a must. For 1 hour plus service.
If you want long recording times without a power connection, then this is your camera. But others can be powered, say, over USB if you don't mind an external power source. PS - if you order online, please consider using my price checks here or at cameralabs.com thanks!
@@cameralabs is there other cameras that can record a hour long video in 1 video file instead of 2 video files. Any suggestions that might be good and cheaper than the Sony a6600. I know my phone will break up my long video into 2 files and have edit to merge them together?
A little disappointing that it only has Micro USB... does the Micro USB port on the A6600 allow for charging while shooting? That‘s one advantage of the Fujifilm X-T3 regarding power, with its USB Type-C port supporting Power Delivery, which a lot of powerbanks and USB charging bricks offer. That would be a solution for long recording sessions, like interviews, although the 30 minute limit could still get in the way.
Question: How does the A6500/A6600 perform handheld when combining sensor shift stabilization with lens (OSS) stabilization? Is it better than the component parts?
I believe it'll use the lenses OSS to stabilize the X and Y axis (tilting) and the IBIS to stabilize the Z axis (rolling) but not the other two. For most purposes, I'd say if you have an image stabilized lens, IBIS won't make much of an additional difference.
A6600 is only $200 more than A6500 right now new. Probably worth that for 2x battery life, 180 flip screen, jack, improved AF. The A6400 however is a full $500 cheaper. I had hoped the A6600 IBIS would be much improved, but alas it's not. Makes you think you could buy a pretty sweet gimbal, couple batteries and just get the 6400. All the other negs on the 6600 don't matter to me, but if you're going to put IBIS on the camera and charge a real premium, then that IBIS ought to WORK. It would put this camera out of reach of every other camera IMO. But it's just not that good.
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@@EPeltzer You forgot to mention the removal of the internal pop-up flash. This boy ain't even a Full-Frame camera and removing the pop-up flash is basically a middle finger to people who use their camera for both work and travel.
So interesting to watch this at the dawn of an A6700 release. The leaked spec for the A6700 is only a slight improvement on a camera that felt slightly dated in 2019. Time to go and speak to the bank manager about swapping to Fuji.
I've seen so many leaks on a high-end Sony APSC which never come to fruition over the years, so I'd wait and see if anything really does happen. I hope so, but who knows?
Now 5 yrs later in 2024 the a6600’s price, especially used, is significantly lower than when it was new making it not as cost prohibitive considering its other merits. Already being an A7C owner I purchased the A6600 over the a6700, which has better spec, (especially in the Auto focus, and video departments) for my street photography habit for these reasons: -Price -$689 refurbished a6600 was 1/2 the price of a new A6700 -Flip up screen -wanted this specifically over the a6700’s side flip -Custom buttons- I’m counting 6 on the a6600 -Grip - I love the a6600’s grip. It fits my hand more comfortably than the a6700 The places I kinda wish it were better: Burst shooting - After shooting a batch of shots I can’t continue shooting again until the camera has completely finished writing all the files to the SD card. Handheld video - IBIS is great for photos on this camera, not so much for handheld video. If you shoot on a tripod or with the camera stationary no problem. 4k is beautiful. If you want to handhold video yourself one can get smooth shots without jutter, just don’t walk around. Touch shutter - Great feature to touch the screen and capture a photo. I wish it were quicker to snap once screen is touched.
We know they CAN do be, so now we're left wondering why they intentionally left out obvious bits that should have been put into a flagship model, like dual cards or at least a UHS-II slot, a 3:2 rear screen instead of the awkward 16:9 screen and the overall body shape which is limiting (no front dial, really?)...oh, and the aging image sensor.
Gordon Laing I vlog blind with my a6000 currently. I have so many clips of me simply for checking my framing. In a perfect world I can own both. a6600 for vlog style and a7iii/IV for client work
I wish Sony would at least gave us a faster shutter speed 1/8000 and dual sd card slots for this model. I'm spoiled by my Fujifilm Xt-2 and what Sony is offering is not enough for to justify the move. Otherwise, I love their AF system.
Epic FAIL from Sony. They took a6500 and renamed it a6600. Sony (and some vlogers) tried to focus on the new AF eye tracking but today (14-09-2019) FUJI announced that AF eye tracking is ready for all Fuji X-T cameras. I m owner of the 3 years old a6500. For the day it was released was the best camera. Now we need 10 bit 4K 50/60 fps, better codecs and better HD. Fuji X-T3 is by far better. If X-T3 had IBIS it would be the perfect camera for video. Sony a6600 is an old hardware camera. Only the battery is new. Don't buy it. SAVE your money. Buy Sony a6500 and save 300-400$. It is EXACTLY the same hardware, same sensor, same ibis, same codecs, even the old micro usb is the same.
Well, strictly between these two - the Sony is overpriced for a rehashed 6xxx model. Plus, in the end of 2019, one can find the Fuji used, which makes it even sweeter deal. And from personal preference - how do you shoot with a camera that has no front dial? I wouldn't :)
Sorry Gordon, nothing to do with you or a the quality of the video, but I only watched 7:16 secs. No touchscreen? I do wish Sony would get their act together. What with this and the fact that the screens aren't fully articulating, I think Sony really need to think about what they're doing.
The ibis in this camera is not good at all even the ois on the Fuji 18-55 footage looks better when vlogging. But other than that it's a pretty good camera for video.
Thank you! Such a great review. I think the a7 iii is much better overall once you add a lens to it with the price point being so close. Also Fuji is doing so well, they tick off so much of the pragmatic boxes its hard but Fuji needs to really go back to the drawing board regarding the battery, 300 shots for one battery? dreadful.
@@alextorresphoto Eight bloody batteries? Wow. I can shoot sports throughout an entire day on my D500 and not kill a single one. An old timey DSLR of course, but having to bring a whole sack of spare batteries would make me want to hang myself. What if the day's key moment happens while I'm changing batteries? Argh
A6600 is missing picture effects that are present in all a6xxx series cameras. No: soft focus, miniature, hdr painting, watercolor & illustration. Should be more not less. Cup half empty?
Excellent review and I totally agree with your comments.Sony gives you something new and takes something away.This is a poor update in my view, upping the price with only a few advantages.They are giving you what the previous cameras should have had anyway.Does the screen dim on UHD shooting as previous A6500.I had the a6300 and the a6500 and now have the A7R3 but I prefer the UHD video on the A6500 quality and clarity but Photo wise I prefer the A7R3 by a long way.
I really see next to no point in upgrading from my 6300. The actual image quality has stayed exactly the same for both photo and video due to the same sensor. I don't need the bigger battery as I power my 6300 with a dummy battery + USB power bank anyways and I already have a lens with great optical stabilization (Tamron 17-70 F2.8), so IBIS is next to useless for me. Really, there's just no way for me to justify getting this thing. Had they given us a higher resolution sensor with better low light performance or higher bitrate 4K recording, I'd have considered this, but as it is... Nope.
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01:08 - design and controls
01:54 - battery life
02:51 - grip
03:10 - memory card slots
03:47 - ports and jacks
04:35 - hotshoe and digital microphone
05:08 - viewfinder
05:47 - screen shape, articulation and touch
07:16 - sensor and autofocus
08:42 - bursts and continuous shooting
10:38 - stabilisation for photos
11:34 - photo quality
14:09 - movie quality and features
21:00 - vlogging test - with NEW footage and mic test!
24:57 - lenses
26:15 - verdict and comparisons with rivals
In regards to in body stabilization, I wonder if the firmware updates since the release of the A6500 has made it worse. I've got a A6500 and since the last firmware update it seemed to me that it isn't as effective as it used to be. I wonder if there's anyway to compare an original firmware A6500 with the new A6600.
@@zbdot73 hmm, that's interesting, I'll ask Sony if they changed it at all...
@@zbdot73 IBIS is exactly the same. Everything in this camera is exactly the same as a6500. Some improvement only in AF through firmware and the better battery. The hardware including IBIS is 90% the same as a6500. The price for this camera is not worth. Sony is trying to sell an old camera at a high price.
@@videoart1496 Cheers thank you for the info.
No Flash is sleezy at this price point. I hope customers make a big enough fuss to not make this a "new" feature on all cameras.
That stabilization test was very helpful... I almost couldn't tell when it was on vs off, glad I could see that before buying and being disappointed.
You're welcome - it works well for some things, but not so much for others.
I thought the stabilization was really best for taking photos?
@@ElReySupr3me Traditionally, it was. It's just that Panasonic has spoiled us so much with their excellent stabilization that now we expect every camera to produce steady video even when we're walking around with them. I don't think that level of stabilization will ever fit in those very slender Sony bodies, though.
I think Sony IBIS is not terrible for video, but really it's much better for stills. If I needed a camera for video and really needed IBIS, the Sony cameras would not be my first choice. On the other hand, if I would be ok with a gimbal , then these cameras are pretty outstanding. The unlimited recording limit, great auto-focus, and battery life are just killer features for anyone who's going to be doing a lot of video shooting.
@@DeusExAstra - yeah, I would totally agree. That sounds spot-on.
Great review as usual! My thoughts would be
A6100: great autofocus for less money
A6400: best bang for the buck in general
A6600: great battery life for a aps mirrorless.
In case you're looking for a specific feature apart from the things I put above, you should look for other cameras before.
as always you are my favorite camera reviewer since DSLR days!
Thanks! Glad you found me and stuck with me!
Can’t help but feel quite let down by this update.
They could have done quite a bit more but at just $100 less than an X-T3, it just doesn’t look nearly as appealing compared to the a6400 versus the X-T30. Not at all a bad camera, but for that price, oof.
An a7iii with 28-75 f/2.8 or a6600 with the 16-55 f/2.8?
Z battery is real nice though. That’s probably the single biggest upgrade.
Gordon, you (and every other reviewer) totally missed the most important upgrade in the A6600. The memory card slot has been rotated 90 degrees so it no longer requires tweezers to remove the card! Hallelujah! All kidding aside, this seems to be typical of Sony upgrades. Add a couple upgrades that folks have been asking for, but leave off some other easily doable upgrades (full touch implementation, colored AF reticle as per the A7RIV) and even take away a few features for no apparent reason. (in body flash and IBS on the A6400). That, and leaving a few badly needed upgrades (better VF, deeper buffer, UHS II memory card slot, joy stick) on the lab bench, ready to go but held out until the next upgrade when they will give us just enough to tempt us without putting it all on the table. Sony is not alone in this marketing scheme, they all do it but it certainly is irritating to say the least.
ha ha, you're absolutely right, it IS easier to get out now!
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By now they have probably made the new prototype of what is going to be the A8000 ...
@@lewiss66 they've already made it! The top-end A6000 model is the A7 III!
@@cameralabs I wish it could be it but the full frame combo camera/lens is heavier than his equialent APSC wich for me is the main game changer.
DreamArena It’s like I said above. They dole all these features out One at a time on each new model. Hopefully to entice you to trade in your A6600 for an A6700 and then an A6800 etc etc
Appreciate the hands on video test. The IS was pretty bad. The noise cancelling feature was like a tin can echo. The rolling shutter or jelly screen was pretty bad also. But understanding the limitations brings solutions. Use a tripod and gimbal to stabilise. Standard audio was good, and external mic even better. Good detailed review 👍
Gordon, thanks for this extremely detailed test, as usual.
I am a Sony APS-C user for a long time, having purchased, lately, the A6500.
I am really fed up with Sony playing around with these ridiculous ergonomic bodies, even the full frame models, A7, don’t have an ergonomic body to write home about.
I am just waiting for the Fuji X-H2, with XT-3 sensor, in body stabilization (Sony stabilization is a joke one), seriously color science, to switch and never go back.
Hopefully they will include the vari-angle monitor, applied to the new Fuji X-A7.
It will be a killer camera! Canon, Nikon, Sony, beware!
Sony has been playing around with it’s customers, for a long time, sure, with top leading phase detect auto focus, but not really truly innovative where they could. Come on, why never a vari-angle monitor? Why never a really touch functionality.
They will pay the price.
XT-3 is already an excellent camera, just lacking the stabilization.
Why: because Fuji listen to it’s customers.
Clearly sony wants to push their client to their full frame camera to make more money !!!
Welp the XH-2 doesn't exist yet, (probably coming somewhat soon finally) and there's the A7S III and A7IV which have a lot wishes fulfilled. The X-T4 AF is worse than the XT-3. Hopefully Fuji has something groundbreaking
The ZV-E10 was a disappointment
Sony unfortunately seems to know where the market is going as the demand and industry shrinks because phones can do so much, which is the prices are consistently going up
Lack of dual UHS2 is too bad. 3:10 3-year old GH5, 1-year old X-T3 have dual UHS2.
That's what I said in the video!
But not everybody is crazy about M43 sensor.
@@sosomelodies659 I like my M43 sensor just fine, I just wish Panasonic had Sony's eye tracking phase detect video af technology.
@@charbax true true
Thank you for a very good review (as always Gordon), I'm even more convinced now that the A6400 seems to be the most honest Sony APS-C right now. You're getting great value for your buck and price wise I cannot complaint that IBIS isn't there or the battery issue. The sensor, AF, HLG, no limit video recording, _all_ that is only plus-plus-plus... for me. I already have an A7III with two FF lenses, I can switch back and forth according to my needs. The A6400 will be my second camera for interviews (replacing the trusty A5100) as soon as I stop buying guitar gear (oh well, still my primary business..) . Cheers!
I use the A6400 to film most of these videos!
Currently I'm grappling with the decision of buying the A6400 or the A6600, and I'm more and more convinced that the IBIS on the A6600 is not worth the extra money (I don't care about the battery). I'd buy the A6400 knowing that I'll use it on a gimbal and I'd buy a gimbal with the money I save purchasing the A6400 and not the A6600.
I bought a6600 at adorama for 1100 the a6400 is 998 watch the difference see what makes sense I got the a66 over the a64 plus after sales will be good also
One of the best detailed review on YT, Thankyou.
Excellent review. The Nostalgic BBC style of presentation.
Thanks! I hope it's not too dry a presentation...
@@cameralabs All of your presentations are highly informative. You are an erudite scholar in tech reviews.🌹🌹🌹🌷🌷🌷☘️☘️☘️
@@tonyad8603 thankyou!
IBIS performance same as a6500? 😟 11:21
Yep, same as A6500, so good for some things, not so good for others as I show in the video.
But the screen 😂
The ridiculousness of Sony's approach to small compact cameras is painfully obvious from your choice of lens to show this camera with. The lens is twice a big as the body, probably weighs twice as much and is just as expensive. So a $1400 compact camera body turns into a $3k usable camera the size of a Sony full frame kit, that is anything but small and compact. Why bother when the A7mk3 is $600 more and probably the same slightly used at KEH or Ebay.
Actually the new 16-55mm f2.8 lens is remarkably light and felt well-balanced on the A6600, especially with its bigger grip than before - I really enjoyed shooting with them both. But as I pointed out, the combo isn't cheap and there are compelling full-frame alternative combos.
Feels like Sony is now borrowing Canon's cripple hammer to protect their FF lineup too. Even if they brought out those two lenses, I'd not trust them enough to be really invested into APS-C, and their APS-C line still feels like just an entry drug to get you into the full frame world, in other words, (expensive) APS-C lenses feel more like wasted money. Personally, I'd avoid them and use FF lenses, or cheaper ones, until it's time to get the FF body too, or if I'm sure APS-C is enough, stick to Fuji who might not be the leader in terms of autofocus speed etc., but don't hold back or cripple either.
And sometimes I wonder what would be if Samsung was still in the game...
Fuji's autofocus speed and eye detect accuracy is pretty good, anyone interested can watch videos on my channel, I always use eye detect AFC and it has NEVER failed to keep my face in focus. I don't know what would be 'better' than this. The lens selection matters with Fuji though, as I use one of their newer and expensive lenses.
Sony is borrowing NOTHING from crippled Canon,and in fact,they passed them right by a long time ago.Canon came out in 2019,with ONE card slot,no IBIS(which they had in their own sub $500 camera in 2009),etc,etc,and had the gall to ask for $3000, as if the EOS R was a professional camera.Sony also has a full complement of A mount,E mount,G series,and third party lenses,and that also is a fact.These 5100-6600 offerings target certain demographics,yet seem strange because they have multiple models instead of narrowing things down.I do not know what this opinionated mess with Sony is,yet people just need to deal with the FACT that a consumer electronics company has passed by these so called icons of the camera world,at their own game.
I find that hilarious and sickening that such former beasts in the industry dropped the ball.Whatever Sony is doing,they are still learning,while they make PlayStation,TVs,and provide financial services.I used to shoot Sony until the camera got damaged,and my FF camera now has a Sony sensor.Now it's Sony who has led the pack in innovation,along with Fuji,Panasonic,and everyone else EXCEPT Nikon and Canon.oh,and I would not bother with APS-C glass anyway,unless it either came with the kit or was close to free.
@@michaels8597 I think you misunderstood him. He's not saying that Sony is borrowing any camera tech from Canon, but Canon's "cripple hammer", meaning the concept of intentionally crippling one's own products. Like Canon continues to release obsolete products with features copy&pasted from their earlier products and/or removing essential features, so is Sony now releasing this a6600 that has only features copy&pasted from their earlier products and removed some.
@@marcus3d ..
First of all,the cameras that Sony tends to make similar are not full frame,they are APS-C.They covered their full frame with fast/A9,with higher MP,and then with affordable FF with advanced AF.Canon has NOT done this,at all,so I deal with FACTS.
Now I dont agree with all those models,like 5100,6000,6300,6400,6600,etc,etc,yet it gives Sony a chance to cover the bases for what everyone might want.Plus,when they do come out with their FF products they do NOT cripple them with inferior AF,crops,one card slot,etc,and no IBIS.Thus,like I said,there is no comparison,because it's two entirely different animals...next???
@@michaels8597 You are clearly not reading what I and Chrisso are writing. Nobody said that Sony is crippling their FF cameras. Nobody said that Sony is copying Canon.
Thanks so much for another great review. I am going to skip this one for sure. I have the a6400 and a6500 and don't feel the need to switch primarily for the Z battery. My pile of W batteries while less convenient do the trick. Cheers.
I agree, and if you want great stabilisation, get a gimbal!
@@cameralabs Just got the Crane M2 and for the a6400 and kit lens it works a treat and will work with my RX100vii and some of my other point and shoot and action cameras. Great little gimbal.
@@PhotoGearFun nice one!
Lack of 4k60 is too bad. Even it can't do 4k30 without a crop.
I know, it's looking dated in that regard.
That's the biggest complaint people have. It immediately puts A6600 below apsc flagship.
Gordon, does the camera shut off (without a sound) if the battery life is low?
As ever Gordon, a thorough, considered and brilliant review!
Thankyou!
That stabilisation quality should be charged at 50-100 extra dollar at most but not as much as it is now , extra charge is rip off for what it provides,seriously--- got a6400 and ronin sc gimbal for that saved difference price and its super combo -SUPER stable!!!, can use any mirorrles with it plus tracking feature and more stuff
Yes I agree, if you don't mind using a gimbal, then they provide much better results and at a cheaper premium.
Hi. Just out of curiosity. Have heard people criticising the a6400/Ronin SC combination, but by the sounds of it you are OK with it. Any examples of your experiences?
@dmitri litvinov
Thanks for the great review. I'm VERY disappointed by Sony's handling of fullHD video. They have CPU capability to downsample 6K video to 4k, but they are "unable" to further downsample to 1080p? I feel like a6600 is finished a6500 - I mean what a6500 should be. Without screen dimming or display off while filming with external display. There is absolutely no progress for me. I would buy it if the full HD video is better (even with this obsolete codec and bitrate), but now I have to find some new platform for video :-/
Great review. Very detailed and informative. Great examples! Thank you!
Amazing informative review, i have owned the a6500 for about 18 months and just recently sold it. Was weighing up between and XT3 and the a6600 and i think im going to go for the XT3 as it is a great hybrid and while it may not have built in IBIS it wouldnt be much if any different than the a6500 / a6600 which has below average IBIS anyway. All i will need is a gimbal for filming. One question though, does built in IBIS help take photos? I mean surely if i have steady hands i wont need IBIS? Cheers mate.
the IBIS does help take and compose photos, but if you have steady hands you'll be ok, and remember you can still get OIS lenses for the XT.
Glad to see they have notably improved out of camera color. Always upsets me when coming back from vacation and combining my cell phone and a6000 jpeg shots to see that in nearly 100% of the cases the cell phone has much more accurate, natural and pleasing color. I have never been able to take a jpeg out of the a6000 without feeling the need to improve the color and contrast (and sharpness).
Very detailed, great review thanks Gordon
Thanks for this comprehensive video!
a very thorough and honest review Gordon.
As you say - a7iii and tamron 28-75 is tempting..
or a6100 and a usb power pack (I'm right in thinking the a6100 also supports usb power) - or a6400 + power pack if you want better build/better evf - I think right now a6100/a6400 are similar prices at least
PS Did I miss my mate Steven seagull again? :D
The A6100 and A6400 sure are tempting, especially with a gimbal. No seagulls this time...
The lack of pop-up flash doesn't bother me one bit. In the almost twenty-years I have been shooting digital, I have only used the pop-up a vey few times. I am wedded to the Godox/Flashpoint system - either on camera or with the use of the Godox/Flashpoint trigger. I use a lot of lenses, both modern and Legacy that don't have image stabilization. The IBIS of the A6600 helps a bit.
My favorite upgrade is the Z=Battery - especially since I often shoot with the A6600 in conjunction with my A7iii; it is nice to use identical batteries with both cameras. Makes packing for trips and jobs easier.
The lack of a dual card shot doesn't bother me since I no longer shoot professionally.
I would like a 1/8000 second mechanical shutter since I often shoot outdoors wide open with fast lenses...
I like the A6600 with 28-75mm f/2.8 Tamron lens, with the 70-350mm Sony and with the 14mm f/2.8 Rokinon...
Hi Gordon, why would you record at 60mbps when 100mbps is available? 18:14
I recorded at 60Mbit for that clip to see how long I could record for on the big battery. if I'd chosen 100Mbit, i'd have filled the card at about 2hrs. Plus I film for UA-cam, so even 60 is overkill.
Missing in all the reviews to date is the most important statistic...which camera do actual people tend to use when they have various cameras lying around --- the large/heavy one or the lighter, more compact one?! I have a sony a6000 and love it's small size for traveling and shooting quickly. I now want to upgrade and was torn between the sony a6600 and the Sony A7III so I went to a local camera store and picked up the a7iii plus had them put on a full frame lens. The a7iii camera was SO heavy and cumbersome in my hands that it was a huge turn off. When traveling or shooting internationally or even locally a large camera-lens set up feels very intrusive. Unless you are a pro, what counts is what camera you will ACTUALLY USE, NOT what takes the best picture. I've read so many times about the expensive DSLR cameras sitting around idly because they are simply too cumbersome. THIS issue, of weight and size, -and the A7III has a HUGE weight and size issue because of the expensive, long, and thick lenses, compared to the Sony a6600, is rarely addressed adequately. Again, a REAL WORLD survey of what cameras people reach for would show (my bet) that the smaller, lighter, easier to maneuver body/lens set up wins hands down (in terms of frequency of use).
Even as a pro crop is a valid option the image quality is so good on crop sensors they are more than up to the task of professional photo shoots. I've be using crop exclusively for professional work for the past 3 years.
Thanks for the very complete review. I'm personally underwhelmed. The delta between going prices on Kijiji and the price of the a6600 (excluding sales tax) is about $1,000 CDN. For that, you get better focusing and a bigger battery, but you lose the onboard flash. While it's true that the onboard flash is useless for pro shooting, it comes in handy for family pix as a fill flash and I like it on the a6500. Quite simply, the a6600 is not IMHO worthy of an extra $1,000. I'm tempted to find a nice used a7III and upgrade to full-frame for roughly the same difference in price.
All roads lead back to the A7 III!
How much difference would a lense make that has optical stabilisation on this camera Gordon?
It depends how good the OIS was on that particular lens. Some of them are very good, but others less so. For instance, the 16-50mm kit zoom doesn't have great OIS. I'm also finding out how the IBIS works with lenses with OIS, but when I used the 70-250mm on it which does have OIS, the stabilisation was ok but still not amazing.
The excellent quality of your photos sells the camera !
Why thankyou!
Thanks for another exceptional review :)
You're welcome!
Great review, but seems like it is not a good camera for shooting casual video. WIth stabilization on still it's look shaking.
your mileage may vary as I do shake quite a lot...
subscribed for how thorough this review is!
Thanks, I hope you enjoy my other reviews - I'm publishing my EOS 90D review in a few hours!
One thing that bothers me about most mirrorless camera is that there's zero sensor protection when the lens is off.
Just add some kind of protector ffs.
Agreed the a6600 does not seem like much of a upgrade. Curious how the xt3 always comes up.
16:30 I'm watching the video in 1080p and the 4k still looks insanely better. Also like the 4k/24 better than the 4k/30 for quality
I might buy one of these for the IBIS, because I do stills with full manual lenses.
My a5100 with OSS 16-50 kit lens will do a 1/4 second handheld still and have no hand shake. Is the IBIS as good on stills as the 16-50 kit lens? Being able to do handheld stills with longer shutter speeds and my manual lenses might make the a6600 worth buying for me.
I'd appreciate any feedback, also from a6500 owners.
Most reviewers are obsessed with video unfortunately, they are by definition UA-camrs and so can't help being overtly videocentric despite the vast majority of people who buy these cameras rarely shooting video. I am also interested in how well the IBIS compares to in lens options for STILLS.
@@ceddo2511 Thanks for the reply. Maybe Gordon will do an update with some stills and handshake/camerashake testing?
My little Sony HX99 is fantastic IBIS for handheld stills, I've done 1 sec shutter stills razor sharp. The a5100 and OSS kit lens almost as stable.
But being able to use my f1.4 and f1.8 manual lenses with a decent IBIS body would be magic.
@@ceddo2511 I showed an example of the IBIS for stills in the video.
WHich camera are you using to film this tho ?
Hi! Thank's for video! Please tell me one thing. Do'se pulsing the af sistem when it set in AF-C and the apperture are need to be close (16 or 22)? Thank's a lot!
If you're located in Southern California, someone is selling brand new units of the Sony a6600 for $1080 no tax. I was so happy I bought 2 and thought I'd share. Just go on OfferUp and search for a6600!
14:40 - The Panasonic S1 is also being neglected of 1080 24p in H.264.
You have a freakin awesome voice for Narrating
No USB-C? Dealbreaker for me.
Sony is true in that when you use lens like 16-55G, your pop up flash will be blocked by lens body and created huge shadow that actually covers 1/4 of the area left bottom provided you shoot at wide angle.
What lense did you use for sony a6600??
Excellent review, thank you!
A6600 + 16-55 2.8 sounds like a great one lens travel camera. Good low light performance, wide enough with decent zoom range, superb battery life, flip out screen for those who care about travel selfies/vlogging, all without the size and weight of a FF. If money was no object I'd gladly buy one right away, but $2800 is just way too steep.
I have to say I really enjoyed shooting with the combination.
I'm not convinced. A Sony a7 III with their 24-105 F/4 would currently be cheaper and do more. Keep in mind that not all f/2.8 apertures are equal. You have to consider crop factor => an f/2.8 lens on APS-C delivers the same results as an f/4 lens on full frame. The a7 III combo mentioned above would be about the same weight and size as the a6600 combo, but cheaper - and offer more zoom range.
Another great video. I want to move to 4K recording what would you recommend A6400 or Canon 90D I’m not good with cameras still learning the M50 thanks
Wait for my upcoming 90D review!
Gordon Laing will do thanks for replying back
@Gordon laing is there is a gimball that you recommend?
Probably one of the Zhiyun models
What microphone were you using that had the noise cancelling?
it was the Sony ECM-B1M - see ua-cam.com/video/q2_I1O4yFD0/v-deo.html
This or the G9 for stills and video?
I am really disappointed that it still use the same old, slow sensor. The MP count doesn't bother me but the rolling shutter is really a problem. I don't even care about 4K60 ... but at least they could have improve the current 1080p/4K codec or give me a pixel binned 4K to get rid of the rolling shutter. Also, I don't like that they neglect their APSC eco system ... I will keep my A6300 for now but I think I am going to switch to Fuji or Canon EF-M when time come to upgrade.
Yes, the rolling shutter is an issue for videographers - you have to film carefully.
I agree that rolling shutter is still a nightmare
it‘s sad that the 6600 has no flash and not the latest EVF as the a7RIV has.
No digital shotgun microphone support 4:36
No, but it will let you use it with an analogue pass through ad I show that later in the video. But yes, disappointing it doesn't have the A7r IV pins.
@@cameralabs and can't use the mi shoe powered Sony shotguns with that flip up display..
@@charbax yes, that's annoying - I mention that in the video too.
Gordon, you are 99% on the a6600. Here's my take on the camera.
The way they used older tech (more on this later) and the pricing, I think Sony is making users favor the a6400. As you correctly pointed out, the advantages of the a6600 is basically the audio out, IBIS, fz-100 battery. The IBIS is basically moot as it is only useful in photos, not for video. It only will perform relatively well with a lens with OSS. And even that, a combined LIS + IBIS, sometimes, the stabilization is still not on par with its competitors. I was hoping that Sony cou;ld have at least improved on this. But I suppose that would mean, using a new sensor assy and not be in line with the rest of the new a6xxx family.
I think Sony is really after the sub U$1,000. I am not sure why you have to release an a6600 at that price. I'd say, there will be more takers at U$1,100 or U$1,200. But for it to go that price point, will take about 2 years. So, the way I see it, only few and those who really need the things listed will go for it. The a6400 is really the sweet spot. I know I'd go for that model and save myself U$500 in the process. Since IBIS is really useless in practice, the only 2 remaining features that are really important and lacking in the a6400 is the audio out, and fz100. To most, that' is not worth paying an extra U$500, unless you really want those in the camera. The loss of the pop-up flash may not be a big deal for many in the a6600.
My take on the use of older tech is - Sony will likely want that on the next round. Why do that? Well, I think it's because the A9-2 and the A7S-3 will have the next generation sensor and IBIS. To put them here now, is to tip their hand early and maybe even steal the drama/thunder of the A9-2.
I also believe that Sony, at this time, now targetting Canon's base. They've got Nikon in the past 2 years, now it's Canon. In a shrinking market, there really is no other place to grow - except if you can steal your competitor's customers. And this is why we have 3 aps-c cameras released in 1 year! And 2 aps-c lenses added. I find the 16-55 f2.8 G too expensive though. The 70-350 could use a U$150 price reduction too. Though I think this will sell well to those shooting birds, sports outdoors. There is the FE 70-300 for a few dollars more, but I think it's size and weight, plus slower AF will not be on par with the aps- c lens. I suppose if you have a 35FF sony, you would be best to go that route.
Will this strategy work? We will know in the 1st quarter report of Sony and Canon. In my opinion, it will sway many to switch, except the die hard who are brand loyal to the core. But the specs/performance is really way ahead of anything Canon has. Even if you bought the a6100, it's AF tracking is so superior that soccer mom's will have few blurred or OOF shots. In a budget, the a6100 + 55-210 is a cheap outdoor action camera for those who don't want to spend much.
What Sony has done is to keep the photo-AF,-video basically on par across the board (minus the presets in the a6100). So, you can expect the same performance across the camera models. They differ only in some areas you may want such as better body, weather sealing, audio out, IBIS, eye-focus in video, etc. That may or may not be important to some, but then again, that is Sony's strategy for differentiation, like it or not. Personally, I like that better than what Canon's basis for segmentation which is true crippling to me.
In line with these developments, I have no doubt in my mind, that Canon will announce an RF mount aps-c in the next 6 months. That goes the same for Nikon. They simply have to now. As the bleeding will continue.
But at the same time, before the year is over, Sony will likely launch the a9-2, if the rumor is right. This in effect, will target the last bastion of dominance of the duopoly. And we will likely see the next generation of sensor and processor it. And if the timing is on cue, expect to see that on the A7-4 after the 2020 Olympics. In effect, Sony is consolidating and moving the bar ever higher so the others will keep trying to catch up. Right now, the bar is the A7-3, but by the time they manage to get to that, the A7-4, with the A9-2 and A7S-3 tech will have been the next barrier to hurdle.
What of the a6xxx or aps-c line? Sadly, it will lieley be status quo till maybe 2021, where it can be upgraded again using the latest tech. Maybe, we''ll also see a shift to the fz-100 battery by then, thus solving one of the sticky points in the aps-c line. As it is, it's really only Fuji who can match up or beat Sony on this segment. But Sony is not (yet) worried as their main goal is not to match up with Fuji at this time, but to erode Canon's aps-c customer base. They want to do it now, while their RF aps-c and Nikon's Z mount aps-c are still on the drawing board. Also, since their tech is still no match to Sony, there really is no reason to release a next gen sensor. They use the same 3-5 year old tech.. Because Canikon is really about 3-5 years behind! They will deploy the latest tech once the A9-2 is released. But i think we will see those already in 2021. Not unless, Sony is also thinking of launching a new line - the A7000 series. And this will be the one to square off with the XT-3 and have 4k-60p in the aps-c family.
On the surface, these Sony moves seem weak. OTOH, these releases seem not to really address the current Sony base. This is more to woo the canon or other brand users. The a6600 and the 16-55 is overpriced IMO. But then again, I think Sony wants us more to get the a6400 and the a6100. And that plays really well to getting sticking it to the m6-2 or anything else they can come up with. As for Nikon, well, we know they are not competing at all, since by default, they don't have an aps-c MILC. DSLR sales are tumbling, hence the need for everyone to contract/consolidate the aps-c DSLR line. No more 7D-3 or in Nikon's case, likely no more D500, and many D5xxx.
In summary, this releases may seem weak or disappointing. To existing Sony users, they are. But to those at the other side of the fence, these are 5 years way better than what Canon or Nikon has now, MILC or even DSLR! So, the target market here is basically Canon and NIkon. It's not for the Sony fans. We will know if this strategy worked only at the last quarter report and 1st quarter report in 2020. For now, we just have to live with what Sony is offering. Take it or leave it. But then again, if you really look at it and get mad and furious at Sony, what other brand is there to go to? Surely not Canon's M series? Nikon doesn't have an aps-c MILC. And DSLRs are dying so to get one now may not offer upward growth. Panasonic and Olympus have no aps-c, only MFT, and that market is even questionable, not counting that MFT combined is not that many to steal customers from. It's Canon who has the biggest. So, I can only conclude that this move is to steal away customers from Canon and Nikon as the market contracts. Otherwise, why even bother with 3 x aps-c cameras in 1 year?
Thanks for your detailed analysis!
After doing a lot of research on synthesizers, I suddenly realized it was in many cases the presets of sounds that made the difference between many of them. The Korg Triton can do anything and so does the Roland JD-XA. But the Roland has horrible presets. I think its the same with cameras. The difference between a Canon and a Fuji colors has to do with presets. The King Korg you can connect to a computer and change whatever you like of the sound. I think the first camera manufacturer that produce a camera that you can alter the colors in will be doing ................
Is rolling shutter the same at 1080? All the demos of rolling shutter were at 4k.
Good question, I'm not sure, I'll retest when I get one again.
I went from the GH4 which I loved to a Canon 80D purely because of auto focus. The 80D was great but it was only 1080p and wasn't great in LOW light. So after much deliberation and many camera review videos I decided to give Sony a go and bought the A6300 for £400 off eBay. I also bought the 18-105 f4 lens. Wow fucking awesome camera VERY happy. Now I wan't this the A6600. The AF looks amazing and the HLG profile looks to be great along with better low light performance overall it looks like my next camera, just need to get saving.
The low light will pretty much be the same as your 6300 as it is the same sensor
apart from the longer battery and video record time i guess i'll keep the a6500 for now as i see not many differences as my primary use is photos not video
Unlimited 4K video recording with excellent quality and full-speed reliable tracking autofocus, hmm, really appealing. The E mount lens system is the superior today of any others, giving the option to upgrade to beasts like A9, A7III, A7RIV. Definitely, X-T3 is ok, but it's an esoteric X-mount world, I was there, APS-C only, a kind of dead-end. I recently visited a Tamron and Sigma showroom, and I spent there a number of long hours experimenting with their brilliant lenses specifically designed for Sony E mount. This was really eye opening, Sony, Zeiss (Loxia, Batis), Sigma, Tamron all are churning out excellent lenses. You haven't mentioned the PZ18-110OSS, which is a beast of a video lens, available only for E mount.
In this context, Fujifilm is really a tiny system, very small market. Wise people suggest to buy into a system and not into a single camera. I think you were totally right when you explained that the biggest competitor is the A7III, the king of mirrorless cameras today with its price and features. The A7III doesn't have the new tracking AF, but its photo and video AF is terrific. Who cares an esoteric Fujifilm gizmos when the A7III is here. With the most recent price drops and firmware updates even the Z6 is a severe competitor, too. It has no video eye AF, but its video AF in general is OK, Z6 has the 30-minute limited recording, but it's full frame and part of the impressive Nikon lens ecosystem.
Imo, at this price point Sony could implement more advanced features, especially since it's a flagship product
As I hopefully pointed out, it is lacking some things you would perhaps expect at this price, but equally it does have things that rivals don't, so it's a tricky balance.Iff they added twin UHS II card slots, a higher res EVF, joystick etc, the price would become even closer to the A7 III. What features would you have liked to see, and how much would you be willing to pay?
@@cameralabs 2k for example, and 10-bit video. Maybe uncompressed raw, which might be handy in certain circumstances. And more small thing - little bit better app for camera. I guess these kinds of apps is kinda same, but Sony's imagine edge mobile requires android 6.0, while my phone have only 5.0, and no higher. Fuji app can work at android 5.0, and for video and photo framing I found small tilting up screen not that helpful - couple feet from camera and you barely can see it, and you still need to release the shutter button, and personally for me these apps is free replacement of remote control for shutter with possibility of framing your shot.
But most importantly - proper touch screen :(
Thanks for the informative review I'm looking for a camera for my church since we are doing service in stay at home. I believe the longer battery life is a must. For 1 hour plus service.
If you want long recording times without a power connection, then this is your camera. But others can be powered, say, over USB if you don't mind an external power source. PS - if you order online, please consider using my price checks here or at cameralabs.com thanks!
@@cameralabs is there other cameras that can record a hour long video in 1 video file instead of 2 video files. Any suggestions that might be good and cheaper than the Sony a6600. I know my phone will break up my long video into 2 files and have edit to merge them together?
@@Chino_does there's a handful that do it, such as the Panasonic Lumix G90 / G95 and the Sony A6400.
@@cameralabs thanks. What would pick picks out of the group if your thinking of price as well something that will not break the bank.
I think I'll wait for next year for the A6700. Hopefully with front dial and 10bit video.
I think that'll be the A7 IV
The a6600 replaces the a6500 which came out 3 years ago - so i guess you'll be waiting till 2022 for your A6700.
@@KDHildreth hmm, unless they 'll be playnig the same game next year as they are this year with three APSCs in a row...
@@lewiss66 maybe, but the a6100,6400 & 6600 replace the a6000,6300 & 6500 which are now discontinued and came out over 3 years ago.
@@cameralabs Yep, seems still like it in 2021. The A7SIII is very expensive
i have a a6400, gonna skip this one. Can you do a video about the perfect gimbal for the A6400? Thanks
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A little disappointing that it only has Micro USB... does the Micro USB port on the A6600 allow for charging while shooting? That‘s one advantage of the Fujifilm X-T3 regarding power, with its USB Type-C port supporting Power Delivery, which a lot of powerbanks and USB charging bricks offer. That would be a solution for long recording sessions, like interviews, although the 30 minute limit could still get in the way.
Yes it allows power delivery, but if the camera is switched on, the USB will only power the camera, not charge it.
Question: How does the A6500/A6600 perform handheld when combining sensor shift stabilization with lens (OSS) stabilization? Is it better than the component parts?
I believe it'll use the lenses OSS to stabilize the X and Y axis (tilting) and the IBIS to stabilize the Z axis (rolling) but not the other two. For most purposes, I'd say if you have an image stabilized lens, IBIS won't make much of an additional difference.
The Fuji X-H1 and Sony A6500 are much cheaper and both have image stabilization. The A6500 doesn't cost much more than the Canon M6 II currently.
True, it's well worth checking prices on older models.
A6600 is only $200 more than A6500 right now new. Probably worth that for 2x battery life, 180 flip screen, jack, improved AF. The A6400 however is a full $500 cheaper. I had hoped the A6600 IBIS would be much improved, but alas it's not. Makes you think you could buy a pretty sweet gimbal, couple batteries and just get the 6400. All the other negs on the 6600 don't matter to me, but if you're going to put IBIS on the camera and charge a real premium, then that IBIS ought to WORK. It would put this camera out of reach of every other camera IMO. But it's just not that good.
@@EPeltzer You forgot to mention the removal of the internal pop-up flash. This boy ain't even a Full-Frame camera and removing the pop-up flash is basically a middle finger to people who use their camera for both work and travel.
Viewfinder zoom in was awesome
nice 4k 24p vs 30p comparison, good use of 5th avenue :)
Hi,thanks for the review. Very useful, as always.Bye
So interesting to watch this at the dawn of an A6700 release. The leaked spec for the A6700 is only a slight improvement on a camera that felt slightly dated in 2019. Time to go and speak to the bank manager about swapping to Fuji.
I've seen so many leaks on a high-end Sony APSC which never come to fruition over the years, so I'd wait and see if anything really does happen. I hope so, but who knows?
Now 5 yrs later in 2024 the a6600’s price, especially used, is significantly lower than when it was new making it not as cost prohibitive considering its other merits. Already being an A7C owner I purchased the A6600 over the a6700, which has better spec, (especially in the Auto focus, and video departments) for my street photography habit for these reasons:
-Price -$689 refurbished a6600 was 1/2 the price of a new A6700
-Flip up screen -wanted this specifically over the a6700’s side flip
-Custom buttons- I’m counting 6 on the a6600
-Grip - I love the a6600’s grip. It fits my hand more comfortably than the a6700
The places I kinda wish it were better:
Burst shooting - After shooting a batch of shots I can’t continue shooting again until the camera has completely finished writing all the files to the SD card.
Handheld video - IBIS is great for photos on this camera, not so much for handheld video. If you shoot on a tripod or with the camera stationary no problem. 4k is beautiful. If you want to handhold video yourself one can get smooth shots without jutter, just don’t walk around.
Touch shutter - Great feature to touch the screen and capture a photo. I wish it were quicker to snap once screen is touched.
Thank you for the detailed review of the A6600 features & performance. Based on this, I've decided to NOT purchase one.
You're welcome!
Well done Gordon!
Does it let you see preview of picture profile on screen while scrolling through them?
Yes, but without a LUT, so it looks really faded if you choose, say, s-log
We know they CAN do be, so now we're left wondering why they intentionally left out obvious bits that should have been put into a flagship model, like dual cards or at least a UHS-II slot, a 3:2 rear screen instead of the awkward 16:9 screen and the overall body shape which is limiting (no front dial, really?)...oh, and the aging image sensor.
Dang it Sony for not putting a flip screen on the a7iii. Now I’m torn. The flip screen is holding me back
Yeah, that is a tough one, although I have vlogged blind with the A7 III and it's not that bad.
Gordon Laing I vlog blind with my a6000 currently. I have so many clips of me simply for checking my framing. In a perfect world I can own both. a6600 for vlog style and a7iii/IV for client work
I wish Sony would at least gave us a faster shutter speed 1/8000 and dual sd card slots for this model.
I'm spoiled by my Fujifilm Xt-2 and what Sony is offering is not enough for to justify the move. Otherwise, I love their AF system.
I kinda like the iso 50 on it though, but still does not justify the price for me
Epic FAIL from Sony. They took a6500 and renamed it a6600. Sony (and some vlogers) tried to focus on the new AF eye tracking but today (14-09-2019) FUJI announced that AF eye tracking is ready for all Fuji X-T cameras. I m owner of the 3 years old a6500. For the day it was released was the best camera. Now we need 10 bit 4K 50/60 fps, better codecs and better HD. Fuji X-T3 is by far better. If X-T3 had IBIS it would be the perfect camera for video. Sony a6600 is an old hardware camera. Only the battery is new. Don't buy it. SAVE your money. Buy Sony a6500 and save 300-400$. It is EXACTLY the same hardware, same sensor, same ibis, same codecs, even the old micro usb is the same.
Great review sir !
Thanks!
Everyone always comes back to A7III.
Which camera better canon 90d or sony a6600?
Depends on use case. What do you shoot most of the time?
@@youknowwho9247for photo
Well, strictly between these two - the Sony is overpriced for a rehashed 6xxx model. Plus, in the end of 2019, one can find the Fuji used, which makes it even sweeter deal. And from personal preference - how do you shoot with a camera that has no front dial? I wouldn't :)
can you shoot 120 fps
im buying the xt3 next month hehe
Can you record with no limit like the 6400?
Yes, did I not demonstrate this in the review?
You did gordon
Sorry Gordon, nothing to do with you or a the quality of the video, but I only watched 7:16 secs. No touchscreen? I do wish Sony would get their act together. What with this and the fact that the screens aren't fully articulating, I think Sony really need to think about what they're doing.
Fed up with Sony’s drip drip waiting for a gush...Sony or Apple?..Good review as usual...
The ibis in this camera is not good at all even the ois on the Fuji 18-55 footage looks better when vlogging. But other than that it's a pretty good camera for video.
Why Your hand is Shaking?
I don't know, it just does
was that Steve Huff at 5:34??
It may well have been...
Stabilization: is this the best Sony can do?...
It's better on full frame
Thank you! Such a great review. I think the a7 iii is much better overall once you add a lens to it with the price point being so close. Also Fuji is doing so well, they tick off so much of the pragmatic boxes its hard but Fuji needs to really go back to the drawing board regarding the battery, 300 shots for one battery? dreadful.
Yes, the battery is really letting Fujifilm down right now and their solution is to just use three of them.
@@cameralabs Yup for 1 event, i used 8 batteries. The grip is not helping me at all. lol.
@@alextorresphoto oh no, 8 bateries!
@@alextorresphoto Eight bloody batteries? Wow. I can shoot sports throughout an entire day on my D500 and not kill a single one. An old timey DSLR of course, but having to bring a whole sack of spare batteries would make me want to hang myself. What if the day's key moment happens while I'm changing batteries? Argh
Great Review. Keep up the good work.
Thanks!
A6600 is missing picture effects that are present in all a6xxx series cameras. No: soft focus, miniature, hdr painting, watercolor & illustration. Should be more not less. Cup half empty?
I rarely use them, so didn't notice their absence, but that's a bit annoying if they are missing. I'll check next time I see one.
Excellent review and I totally agree with your comments.Sony gives you something new and takes something away.This is a poor update in my view, upping the price with only a few advantages.They are giving you what the previous cameras should have had anyway.Does the screen dim on UHD shooting as previous A6500.I had the a6300 and the a6500 and now have the A7R3 but I prefer the UHD video on the A6500 quality and clarity but Photo wise I prefer the A7R3 by a long way.
No, i don't think the screen dims anymore when filming 4k. They fixed that on recent models.
stupid comparison. How much is A7RIII in comparison to the $1199 6600?
Great review. Will skip this one.
I really see next to no point in upgrading from my 6300. The actual image quality has stayed exactly the same for both photo and video due to the same sensor. I don't need the bigger battery as I power my 6300 with a dummy battery + USB power bank anyways and I already have a lens with great optical stabilization (Tamron 17-70 F2.8), so IBIS is next to useless for me. Really, there's just no way for me to justify getting this thing. Had they given us a higher resolution sensor with better low light performance or higher bitrate 4K recording, I'd have considered this, but as it is... Nope.
Tough to choose. Fuji has a better menu layout, control dials, and more lenses. a6600 has a better grip, better battery life, and image stabilization.