DON'T BUY A FULL FRAME CAMERA! Sony APS-C vs. Full Frame.
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- STOP! WATCH THIS VIDEO BEFORE YOU BUY A FULL FRAME CAMERA! For 85% of people, APS-C is actually a BETTER choice! In this Sony APS-C vs Full Frame video... I'll tell you why it might be better for you to embrace the crop sensor! But to keep things fair, I also talk about why you might want to buy full frame too!
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1:05 - Introduction
2:09 - Why APS-C is better.
7:29 - Why Full frame is better
10:00 - Summary
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The FF isn't really better at low light in itself, but rather makes it easier to make equally bright lenses. For example, on FF an f/1.8 would be like an f/1.2 on APS-C, and it's easier to make good f/1.8 optics than good f/1.2 optics.
Dunna Did It which lenses do you use on your a6400?
Marcus Sundman full frame sensors are indeed better performing in low light given an aperture size.
Jonas - I use the sigma trio (16,30,56, 18-105 f4) and then my FF lenses too... Tamron 17-28, Tamron 28-75, and a couple others as well.
@@threepe0 Nope, not aperture. Given an F-number, yes, but not given an equivalent lens (which coincidentally has a similar aperture).
Every photographer: You don't need full frame, it's you, not the camera. Every photographer: Has a full frame.
It's just a bogus claim that the technology does not influence your images greatly. You've got a much greater keeper range with better equipment. Sure, a camera for $100 might produce good images but only in controlled settings or with many many more that are deleted right after the scene was photographed.
It's comparative to the claim that "Depression can be cured by happy thoughts". Happy thoughts (i.e. your skill) helps a lot but sometimes you just need therapy/medication and that's the reason holding you back. Simple as that.
Full frame has its benefits just like APS-C has it's benefits, it's down to the users specific needs as to whether they need full frame or not, full frame would be better if you're a wedding photographer or portrait photographer
@@Remer714 yes and no, its meant that you need to use ur camera to the max before upgrading
Also, every pro and sport camera mostly is a full frame (Sony's single digit A7 - A9, Canon 1D, Nikon D5, and so on)
Right tool right job still believe that to be true. Sometimes the tool is micro four thirds, apsc, full frame, medium format range finder whatever I think you get the point. There are professional photographers who shoot with all of these formats and the format they use works for them. I own apsc micro four thirds full frame and a point and shoot. I am not a business photographer who sells their work so I am the client and I use what I want and I do use them all . If I chose to make photography a business I know some of my gear is not durable enough for constant use such as my thrift store tripod I payed $5 for or my cheap walmart flash.
Not having enough money helps with the decision...
It definitely narrows the options for you.
That’s exactly how I did it! =)
You know what... Iam aint buying a camera anymore. Just buying me a saxophone.
Probably a good call
I got a scooter
@@Dangling_Carrot wise decision, bro. You got ur cellphone to shoot. Iam also getting better at saxing
Smartphone camera, and bicycle :-)
😂😂🤣
Great video, and thanks for making it clear that APS-C is not a "downgrade." I made a very good living shooting APS-C for many years and my clients were always happy (and even now when I shoot both APS-C and FF, my clients cannot tell the difference).
"All sony aps-c has flip screen"
Me: cries in a6000
Haha I tried to make sure I said it was just the new lineup (a6100, a6400, a6600). I know how you feel with my a6500, that was why I got the 6400 too.
I brought it recently as I am new to photography... Not regretting it so far ^_^
The a5100 does have a flip screen and it's almost as good as the a6000
A6000 is still a great camera, especially to learn on.
It would not be nearly as bad if Sony upgraded the imaging app. I still use my phone for monitoring myself and composition at home.
Agreed, I guess another reason for full frame is the dynamic range. In theory the ful frame sensor should give you a higher range to recover details in blacks and whites / burnt out areas and totally dark areas. But I would be fine with the a6300, if only it had 2 card slots. I want two slots because when doing client work I need that backup for my peace of mind.
Great point! The difference isn’t huge but it’s there for sure! That two card slots gets a lot of people I think.
100% about the dual card slots.
Yes full frame gives you significant better dynamic range.
I have been happy with my APSC gear for years until I walked into a gallery in Prescott Arizona a couple of weeks ago. There were gigantic prints on metal that were as sharp as a tack! Made me feel like a beginner.
You might still be able to get that with aps-c. Large prints has more to do with megapixel count than sensor size.
People used to make massive prints before the gear we have today existed. 300DPI at the minimum focusing distance of an eye may make sense for a cell phone, but billboards may only be 10 DPI and look fine. People usually don't look at massive prints from a foot away
@@dunnadidit and the quality of the glass...and of course using the proper settings.
tx for this, been really thinking I need the a7iii for my studio but honestly it'd be better for my night-time stuff at events. Now talk me out of buying a Black Magic Pocket Cinema 6K please...
Umm... autofocus? 🤷🏻♂️
@@dunnadidit I shoot in manual already since a few times my a6500 kept trying to pull focus from my background
I got nothing then. It seems solid lol. I kinda want one too.
@Derpimuss easy. Sell the products
@Derpimuss Do you ever sell anything you buy?
Or even have money saved up for spending?
Maybe you got medical bills or something but it could also be paying way more in rent.
Great intro. Hilarious 😂
I have the A6300. Looking to upgrade to a6400 soon... Black Friday deal let's gooooo
I'm crossing my fingers for you! Sony isn't known for having crazy deals but maybe this is the year!
That intro is literally what I was going through while looking for a video comparison like this. Good stuff thank you!
bought the a7iii 5 minutes ago....
YAY! You'll love it I'm sure! I'm not saying it's bad by any means... I love mine. Its just overkill for a lot of people, but sometimes overkill is fun 😉
@@dunnadidit overkill? Lmao
OfficialCentrificProductions Germany - yup. Overkill... it means “more than what was needed” and for a lot of people, full frame and all the wonderful glory and power of the a7iii is probably overkill. Most people could do with their phone, or a point and shoot or if they really want interchangeable lenses then apsc would work.
And yeah I'm already aware that apsc is better for vlogging and travel cause its "more handy and small" but there are like people who just buy this cam for vlogging or other small things that could be handled by a apsc camera and I'm like "weird flex bro"
OfficialCentrificProductions Germany Well full frame could be better for vloging more weight is good to warm up your muscle and no crop on full frame helps get wider lenses.
2:58 Dunna! I always love watching your videos and I am sure this video will be the video that a lot of people want and looking for..
Haha, glad you like my scroll face lol. Yeah hopefully lots of people want to see it!
@@dunnadidit Yes sure it will help a lot of people to make a better decision.
I own Sony Full frame A7iii and Sony A6400.I highly recommend to buy full frame camera.(Unless you do video).If you are trying to save money, buy APS-C camera.
Thanks for your input.
What if you do video and photo and want something compact? haha
What do you mean by unless you do a video? :)
Bozhidara Bozhilova To me, APS-C is more compact, light and easy to carry when doing video work.
@@sandro6691 Then buy APS-C. New A7siii is best for video but you will have to pay over $3500.
Love the opening sequence haha. Great review.
Haha thanks!
For the past 2 days, I was with the same part as the intro, lol 😂. Thank you for the clear cut explanation on which camera should I get. I do vlogs, cooking and street photography(before lock down) using my mobile. This really helped me. Stay blessed!!
The high ISO performance is one of the main reasons I upgraded. Many of my clients I film for are music producers, when they have shows. In this type of environment, where I have little to no control over the lighting, the A7iii ability to produce a usable image up to ISO 12800 is worth it to me
Definitely miss the price of APSC lenses though
Yeah I hear that, I shoot a lot of things like that for my business and having full frame has definitely been helpful... I was getting by fine before but my image is cleaner now for sure!
It's more about the lens than the sensor. Slapping a slow lens on FF doesn't make the result less noisy than with a fast lens on APS-C.
Just as with focal length and aperture you have to use equivalent ISO. The FF ISO 12800 has APS-C equivalent ISO 5700.
One system isn't really better than the other, it's about the availability of equivalent lenses and ISO values.
For example, if you use 24mm F/1.8 at ISO 400 on an APS-C you will get the same field of view, depth of field, image noise, and exposure (basically the same image in every way) as 36mm F/2.7 at ISO 900 on a FF.
Really? Video is usable up until iso 12, 800? Damn... Now my Fuji Xt3 being usable until 6,400 sounds not so good
@@marcus3d : just to be clear, "slow" means slow autofocus speed? Or small aperture? Like F4?
Interesting, I've never heard of someone also applying the crop factor to the iso before. I'll have to do some testing with this!
For most photographers going from APS-C to FF is like going from a car that goes 200mph to one that goes 225 mph because it's "better" even tho you only use your car for shopping.
Loved the intro Duna!, and congrats for reaching 100k!, love your videos keep doing the great work please!
As a sports shoot, I love to have FF and crop cameras with me at the same time. The versatility is fantastic.
Production quality on these videos is unreal! Keep up the killer content🤞🏻
Thanks!
Bardzo pomocny film w którym wiele objaśniłeś w prostych słowach. Dla mnie zmiana na FF to ogromny wydatek, zwłaszcza, że mam sporo obiektywów do APS-C. Jedyne co mi brakuje w mojej s6300 to stabilizacja, no i może jeszcze obracany ekran. Moja A6300 jest w klatce SmallRig która go powiększa, daje możliwość montażu akcesoriów i chroni przed uderzeniami. Nie zarabiam na filmach i zdjęciach więc zostaję z APS-C. Dzięki wielkie :)
Awesome video, just found your channel trough this video and instantly subscribed. Finally someone not just doing it for likes and views but rather deliver actual content and facts/opinions on exactly the questions people are asking.
Keep it up!
Thanks so much!!
I really appreciate this video. I was in BestBuy today, ready to pull the trigger on the Full Frame. I don't find myself shooting a lot in low lit situations, but I do like having the option. The APS series definitely does better in low light than my smartphone, and I do like the size of the camera or more specifically the weight. It's easier to carry in my bag in comparison to a full-frame and lastly the price. The price for lenses and bodies are definitely more.
I keep thinking that if I don't take the plunge into full-frame I never will, but I still haven't found a tipping point reason yet to make the switch. I'm still very torn.
I'm super satisfied with my APS-C, don't feel like I'm missing anything YET :)
What you said about the auto focus is interesting though. It would be amazing if you could do a video about focus comparison, best focus settings, differences with photo/video, etc!
Someone in the comments here mentioned that it might have to do with the smaller elements in the lenses. Less to move equals quicker focus maybe?
One thing I think you may have touched on but probably not enough is that the full frame lenses are usually bigger and heavier. To get a good quality zoom or fast prime lens on full frame, the lens is gonna be big and heavy. Well worth it for the potential image quality, but I often wish for the smaller lenses of the APS-C world.
Excellent intro... funny, yet insightful.... and the rest of the video was just as good! You really understand the mind of your audience, which makes the video so much relatable and better!
very well made video, much needed. cheers!
I am a photographer. I use a6000 with sigma 56mm f1. 4 for portrait work. Works great. I have compared it with pictures on full frame. To be honest the image quality difference is not worth upgrading to a full frame. I spent money on buying the right lens and proper lighting equipment and it works great. If light is not great, you aren't going to produce decent results whether it is full frame or aps-c.
Greetings from India
Have you ever tried ligma blz fs?
Fact is no one but other photographers care about your gear..you can get paid clients on a full frame..or a point and shoot...if it's for work..people just want it done to their request..if you're doing it for art..agian no one cares...so always get the one you think is cool..if you like it..you'll like using it..and thats all that matters...because like everything..its just manufactures making you think new stuff is a need...when you can be a pro photographer with a camera from 2010
Well put Piper!!
Best comment!
Your statement just convince to buy an APS-C and saved my money to buy a prime lense along with it. Thanks from India Bro
I don't now why there's this gear fetishisation in photography. No one insists you need a certain instrument to make beautiful music or a certain pigment to produce a beautiful painting. Full frame may make it easier to produce professional results but that's not to say you can't with crop sensors, it depends on what you're going for and the type of photography you're doing. This obsession with the tech distracts from the art of it, and I can refute the claim you can't work professionally with crop-sensors as I know a number of folks in the community working professionally that work exclusively with the format.
Snooty Films ah ah ahhhh you’re not deep enough into the guitar community, I think the electric guitar community is even worse than photography considering gear fetishisation... amps are body’s, guitars are lenses, but all the pedals have no way be compared in photography equipment ( mayyybe gimbals hehe)
Great vid. Made the point very well. I started with film in the mid. seventies but due to things did not do much at the end of the century. Towards the end of 2006 the prospect of a longtime investment paying up, got me thinking about a digital camera. I bought several magazines, what is APS-C. I thought. I had used Canon from 1980 (A1 and T90) and looked at the new 400D, boy it was small. After a few months I bought a 5D, the lusted after camera back then. My leaning towards birds and other wildlife lead to me adding an APS-C body for the extra reach with my Canon 500 plus 1.4 extender. I use whatever is right for the time and lighting.
I shoot Micro Four Thirds, and it's good enough most of the time. Plus, the crop factor helps me get closer to subjects that are far away, like wildlife. But I could certainly use an extra stop or two of ISO performance because I have to use fast shutter speeds to capture action.
It’s all give and take. Both ways. That’s why I wanted to make this video! Too many people trying to convince people full frame is the ONLY way.
Great video buddy! Lots of great valid points. Sony’s APS-C are so good you definitely can’t go wrong especially at their price point.
Thanks! Yeah I think a lot of people see full frame as the only option because its so much more easily accessible now but I still reach for my aps-c a lot even having a full frame camera!
This was such an amazing intro and I'll take more Disney+ jokes all day long 😂😂👏👏 (the video was great too and really informative)
Haha glad you enjoyed that! It was fun to make! Cheers!
Yes his intro is well done!
Thanks man, clear and detailed video. I'm thinking about buying a new camera. Doing some research first...
Thanks for the vid. This came right as I'm really questioning whether I need to spend the extra money on a full frame.
You bet!
Because of the flippy screen, I still love my a5100 anytime I'm talking to camera. My A7iii is for photography and everything else. Great vid, Dunna!
Thanks so much!
I love my a5100 too
I just wish it didn't overheat. I quite loved it but it always overheated and I couldn't get any work done. Swapped to a Canon 200D which has never overheated once even during long takes in summer.
Pssht. I shoot everything on my 8x10 camera. #GetOnMyLevel 🤣🤓💪
Nobody listen to this guy... I've heard that... *dun dun dun * he's crazy!
How's the iso performance?
@@JacReviewsStuff it's film, it varies
Gerald Undone
No lag viewfinder😆😆
I’ll stick with the Blackmagic 4K that gives me better quality than all of my local competitors
The ending was so epic. Very original, mate!
Thanks a ton!
Thank you that was really useful, trying to decide which camera to get at the moment. There is so much choice 😳
I’ve been searching for a video like this for a long time and you nailed it! a6600 here I come lol (side note: the fiverr ad setup at the end was priceless 😂)
Glad to hear it dude! I think I’ll be ordering my a6600 soon too! (Thanks for noticing, I thought that was semi-clever)
Dunna Did It awesome well I’ll be looking out for those videos to come! Keep it up the good work man!
Thanks a ton!
aaahhh thanks for this video! just the validation i needed to go for APS-C.
Thanks for the comparison! Very well presented and high quality production. It's actually inspiring!
Peace.
Good points, I have both and I can definitively tell the difference and I use them accordingly.
I choose APS-C for proffesional corporate filmmaking and I have great results. With a good lighting setup and some prime lenses everything is fine. Also I don't have to use large and heavy gimbals . Everything is lighter, cheaper and more compact. The only thing I missing is the wide prespective of the full frame when shooting hotels and the two card slots.
Absolutely!
i just gave thumbs up for the intro. hilarious!
Haha thanks!!
Hey D.D.I. I´m glad UA-cam recommended your upload, was very-very close to buy a full frame until i saw this. Compared and the APS-C seams like a more reasonable buy. Thank for the information, you just saved me a bunch of money, and space in my bag.
Glad the video was helpful!
It was more than just helpful, i was about to buy the A7III or the A7RIII. You saved me 3 times the money. Thank you!
Good content, those reasons you mention for ff are huge if you ask me. Low light, more custom options, APC-S crop mode and DoF
That’s awesome! If those are important to you then you know what you need!
Awesome video! I moved to an a7rii from the a6000 for ibis when using my vintage lenses, high mp count for cropping when needed and also to get the full vintage lens experience (aps-c cuts into the awesome swirly bokeh of some of my lenses). It made sense to me because used a7rii prices are incredibly low right now and for what I do, it just out-specs any aps-c camera. Also, I really appreciate having less noisy images in tough lighting conditions. I've been able to take low light shots that would have been impossible handheld on my a6000.
That’s awesome! I’m glad that upgrade worked well for you!!
This is the first video I ever from you and I love it! Knowleadgable AND personality? Subbed!
Aww thanks Monica!
This helped me make an important decision. Thanks for this awesome video. Going with the A6600!
this was so timely! APS vs APS-C is the current debate thats been going on in my head the last 2 weeks hahah APS-C does seem like it provides more than enough value especially considering the wider range of lens options. Thank you!!
That’s great to hear Aaron! Glad you found the video helpful!
I've had an a6500 for a little bit and have been really impressed with the results I can get. I'm constantly torn between going to the a7iii (which I drool over often) and just going nuts and fully kitting out my aps-c camera. I've already put some money into glass and lights because I really love video and want to get quality results and I feel like pound for pound the a7iii offers some killer features for me... but so far I've gotten more value out of taking the price difference and investing it in more prime lenses and lights... so... por que no los dos?
I remember being in your situation. I’m definitely not upset about having the a7iii now, but I could have survived without
Yes, for sure - plus for me, the battery life and overheating time for the AK6500 when doing video is not great. The A7iii was such an improvement, rarely needing another battery or having to cut a take / lose a take due to overheating.
I got an A7R 2 (42 mp) for less than a grand. Has plenty of features if you shoot manual. I would defs go for that camera
I just pre-ordered the a6600 camera this weekend. Can't wait for it to get here. 😬
I'm probably going to pre-order mine this week!
Julez DeJesus Si hermano Julez, I am hot on the a6600’s great eye-detect auto focus!
dream cam😖
Not sure, but Sony added a new advanced feature for street photography: the marvelous autofocus with AND (Auto Nipple Detect).
🤭 lol
No recording limit on the a6600
You can also just go into aps-c mode on your full frame if you need the 1.5x additional reach. Yes, it is basically just a 'digital zoom' as it only uses the center portion of the full frame sensor, but you get the exact same effect as screwing a full frame lens on an aps-c body. And with an A7RIV the aps-c mode still gives you more MP than the A6600 sensor has and the ability to not zoom in if you don't want to: for example when this lion you were shooting is now walking towards you and you want to zoom out without changing lenses.
By the way: I shoot with an aps-c D500 and it is great. One advantage of aps-c that is not mentioned here: less depth of field. Landscape photographers want to have the whole scene in focus and with aps-c you get less DoF without having to close the aperture and introducing defraction.
Very cool video. Your explaining of the systems are excellent. Thank you for the share.
In the case of Sony cameras, one thing I really like about the aps-c system that you can't have with the full frame cameras, is the rangefinder position of the viewfinder. I much appreciate not having my nose against the screen.
Ah yes!! I don’t really use the viewfinder much but I suppose that would be helpful!
I would appreciate this more if I didn’t learn on a smartphone/a5100 where you only have a screen 😂
I hate when I smudge my screen with my nose on the A7III though 😂
SatanSupimpa on my 6400 I’m using the EVF 90+% of the time. Even with a bright screen it’s often hard to see in sunlight. Plus, using a view finder just seems like a “real” camera vs smart phone.
You can always use nose to choose focus point.
Haha!! 👃
I just bought the Sony A7C for $1100 on sale in my country, to replace my "old" A6300, literally the best of both worlds.
Wow! That’s a killer deal!
@@dunnadidit It was a weird situation, I´ll try to cut it short, in Argentina there are two values for the dollar, the official one is lower than the black market one, Sony sells its cameras at the same price as in the US, 1800 dollars for the A7C but you pay in Pesos, our local currency, at the official exchange rate you pay 170.000 pesos but if you sell your dollar bills in the black market to get 170.000 pesos you only need to sell 1.100 dollars so you effectively pay US$1.1100 for the A7C or US$2.200 for the A7SIII or US$2.000 for the A7RIV. The only dissadvantage is that the price of our services are way lower than in first world countries so it offsets the lower prices of equipment. But if you live in the US or UK and come here with dollars you can build a full kit of E-Mount equipment for about half as much as in the US or Europe
@@AlejandroPirchi so would a tourist in Argentina also need to sell their dollars to the black market
You, Sir, helped me make up my mind (finally). Instant subscribe!
Thanks for this video. Helped me a lot!
Thanks for watching!
I am happy with my a6500 atm. I was especially happy with it while I was hiking 11.5 miles in Canyonlands NP Needles District capturing some banger shots! Especially happy I didn't have to carry a FF and glass to get the same photo!
No doubt! My bag has gotten a lot heavier recently.
I started with an a6500 they're great cameras and then eventually I moved to full frame 6500s a great start!
I use a 6400 and I love this cam, but in the future I will buy as a "second" camera the a7 III or the IV. Because of the rolling shutter effect in videos. 🤷🏻♂️
One good reason, I can use all of my full frame lens on booth cameras. 👍🏻
UGGGHHHH I hate the rolling shutter on the sony apsc cameras... it is the bane of my existence.
New sub. Excellent presentation, perspective and information. Thanks!!!
Thanks for this video! I just asked you about what camera to use on another vid of yours! LOL
As someone who started with the 5d mkiii and now shoots on the sony6300, I can say that I am glad I made the move. apsc iso technology has gotten so good it is almost impossible to see any difference these days for most projects unless for some ungodly reason you are just shooting in pure darkness (because you can't afford any lighting) then yeah maybe.
Thats good to know!! Thanks for sharing!
Let's pull this apart; You're trying to save money on full frame, and buy an aps-c, then you say "because you can't afford lighting?" Maybe when you made the switch, low-light performance was comparable, but the A73 for example allows me to shoot in naturally lit environments, and not because I can't afford lighting, I have that kit and it's fantastic, but I don't need it when sitting around a camp fire with my mates, or when I'm in a dimly lit dining room, or other low-light scenario. I have tons of room as far as ISO which has improved a lot in full frame cameras over the last few years, and plenty of speed with large aperture lenses. Compared to my 5D mk4, I'm able to pump the ISO much farther up without getting into noise territory. There isn't an APS-C camera that can come close to performing as well in these environments, and I have tried a few. There's a reason M43 is dying out, and things seem to be consolidating to full frame; Smaller parts are easier to come by, people are realizing that in order to make up for compromises with small sensors you need bigger glass, and the price difference shrinks. People are getting better and better results with phones, so there are fewer new hobbyists than there used to be, and professionals are getting great results with even older gear, while trying to feel out where this whole market is going.
Well put ThreepE0! I always found, when I shot apsc exclusively from the sony a6500 and a6400, that I was covered really well with their low light performance in about 85-90% of the situations I was in. But now with the A7ii that number has gone up to 95-99% of the situations I'm in. Its definitely better but I'm still pretty impressed with the low light capabilities of the aps-c series. ALL THAT SAID... the stuff I was shooting was for youtube, not client work. So my level of acceptable quality was lower than what I would allow for a paid job for sure.
I've been thinking of "upgrading" my a6300 -> a6600 or a7iii, but this just made me realize that my trusty ol' a6300 is still way more than enough.
Marko Isip just sold my a6300 and then saw this 😅
@@dreamkiller189 Just sold my 6500 and saw this haha
Great explanation of each camera and what they are good for.
I went over to Sony a couple of month’s ago after using Nikon for several years. Very easy transition between the two. The menu on Sony cameras is very easy to understand, and to navigate through. I think people should by a used A7, if they want to buy a Sony camera as their first camera experience. You can buy cheaper crop lenses and use the crop mode. And later on if they prefer to step it up a notch, they can buy full frame lenses. But that’s just my way of looking at it.
Nice! Thanks for your input !
I have the Sony 6400 and It is amazing, I use it to film all the videos on my YT channel if anyone wants to see the quality u get from it.
I just wish SONY would release a 16mm Prime lens with OSS. Great video got yourself another Sub!
Yeah a 16mm with oss would be cool but I don't see it happening any time soon.
I wish sony would step up to 4K 60fps. man o man
Yeah that would be dope
as a non-native english speaker, I wish everyone in the world could speak as well and understandable as you do. Bravo
Thank you so much!
True!
Such a great video. Thank you so much! When you mentioned prints I startad thinking that I actually might need to switch Up My Gear. Now I have Sony a6000 with a Sigma 30mm 1.4. But I have started selling prints through a company (maximum size is 70cm*100 cm). What do you think, do I need a full frame to get a better competitive edge or should I Keep My Sony a6000 and Invest in New lenses as I don't have that pile of money 😉. Thank you in advance!
That’s a tough question. I really think you can crush on apsc until getting a full frame body makes sense financially (making enough from projects etc) then kind of make the move slowly. But that’s the way I approach things.
Great review. Good job!
Yeah, I lusted after the Sony Full Frame for a while, but after I demoed an A6400 in the store, I bought it and never looked back. It's basically 90% of what the bigger more expensive full-frame cameras can offer (for me), and I needed it for travel, throwing it in my backpack with a couple of lenses is SMALLER and lighter than my old Nikon DSLR without any lenses, haha! Crazy! Love the formfactor, and I wish they would even make a smaller camera.
Awesome!!
Great video - nice to see someone not saying fullframe is a must! 👍
Thanks! Definitely not a must... more like a nice option if you can lol.
Ayy! First video I've watched of yours and I like your style. I just bought the sony a7 2 for photogrammetry from costco. Made me chuckle about your self justification schtick. Bought it for my wife for our 2 year anniversary tomorrow, but we don't have to tell her it's more for me :)
If anybody knows a better camera for price for photogrammetry, let me know! I have 3 months to return it no questions asked lol.
Gread video.
I have the a7iii with that 3.1 update and I think comparable to the a6600.
I think the points you made are valid for each line up... but for over all quality , functions and handling I actually upgraded from the a6400 to the a7iii myself.
That's awesome! I have all 3 of those cameras and I love them all for different reasons. I'm glad you found what is right for you!
Depends on what your goal is, but I wouldn't recommend APS-C unless you're buying into the Fuji system. Most manufacturers treat their APS-C lines as an afterthought with products primarily geared toward the consumer level. Because of this, all of the best lenses from companies like Sony, Canon, Nikon, etc. are released for their full frame bodies. Even if you get into third party lenses, companies like Sigma still release their best lenses for full frame, too. Fuji, however, doesn't have a full frame line and until their relatively recent push into medium format, APS-C was what they solely focused on so their APS-C lenses are absolutely fantastic. So if image quality is really important to you (your lens is going to be a huge determining factor in image quality), then you probably want to skip APS-C altogether and just buy a lower end (or previous generation) full frame body.
If you're pretty sure you're never going to want to leap to full frame, I would argue that Micro-4/3 is a better option than APS-C in most instances. It's even more compact and there are fantastic optics for it. Olympus doesn't make APS-C or full frame cameras so their best lenses are released in Micro-4/3 format and just about every video shooter ought to be familiar with Panasonic's GH-series cameras.
With full frame cameras coming down in price (Canon's EOS RP is $1000 brand new as of this writing), it's getting more difficult to rationalize purchasing an APS-C camera in my opinion.
Great points! Thanks for sharing!
It's not necessarily true that full-frame camera makers offer better lenses. Sony's kit 28-70mm full-frame lens, designed to be used on its A7-series cameras, is actually a fairly mediocre lens. Sony sells that lens in an effort to reduce the financial bite of buying into their full-frame system and thus make it more attractive to people on a budget.
I personally predict that APS-C is going to go the way of the dodo bird in the next few years anyway, for several reasons. One is that there are too many cameras on the market now, regardless of format, chasing too few consumer dollars. As a result, there is too much segmentation. Smart phone cameras are becoming more capable, and this is another reason. The improvements in smart phone cameras and segmentation have cut deeply into industry profits. In fact, these two factors alone were enough to cause Olympus to sell its camera division to a third party.
Finally, it makes much more sense, both from a marketing standpoint and an economic standpoint, to make one type of camera and one type of lens system - namely, full-frame. What the camera makers need to do is spend more money on R & D to find out how to make full-frame cameras and lenses cheaper and thus more affordable, without giving up quality.
The consumer will also benefit because buying cameras will become a simple thing again, without a myriad of confusing options.
Making a full-frame camera that appeals to people who want simple a point-and-shoot camera shouldn't be that hard. If Pentax could make a nearly full-auto 35mm SLR back in the 1970s and 1980s that sold well, then it shouldn't be difficult for any other manufacturer to do the same.
For Sony you can get a LOT of compact, light weight full frame Lenses that works great on Sony APSC Cameras, so no problems for Sony. Fuji is is too expensive being APSC size !
You have the money you get all of them! At the end they are just the tools that help us to make money. They is no perfect camera. It depends on what type of task we need to do! Different tools have different functions! Most of the time when I am not doing clients work I just shoot with my iPhones. That way I can just post the videos or photos on the social media instantly and share with my friends.
Great points for sure!
Different tools have different functions! If you judge the intelligence of dogs by their ability to climb trees, all dogs would seem stupid...
Just watched this entire video. Loved it!!! Bought myself a Fujifilm x-t4 2 days ago comparing it to the Panasonic Lumix s5 that just came out recently. Cannot wait to get it!!! I realized a few things in tandem with your video. 1. I just don't really need full frame. I'm not going to be making massive prints anytime soon. 2. Affordability. I can get 2 quality lenses from Fujifilm for the almost price of one lens from the likes of canon and Panasonic. This goes in tandem with something not in your video that I wanted to point out. Features!!! A quality APS c will have way more useable features than these new entry level full frames and are of almost similar cost. Compare the Fujifilm x-t4 to the Nikon z5. I'd take the Fujifilm any day because, keep in mind, even if you think you're saving money, you still need to invest in the same expensive full frame lens that the more expensive bodies do(unless you're fine with just a kit lens, more power to you then). I've seen plenty of astrophotography pics with the x-t4 and I can honestly say I wouldn't be able to tell a difference between that and a 24mp full frame. So the only reason reason I could think of to actually get a full frame over APS c is for better bokeh, which I'm sure can be similarly achieved with the right lens
Great points!
Great video! I was about to buy a A7 III. One question, I do beauty videos, and beauty pictures, which camera would you recommend? I would really appreciate your opinion. Thanks a lot
I like and have both for different reasons, but it takes time using them to realize there are far more factors to bear in mind.
for example, vintage lenses can cost peanuts - and they're all full frame (for 35mm cameras). Stuff like the HELIOS and the beautiful spiral effect will only really come out in it's full glory on a full frame, and the lens can be picked up in car boot sales on old cameras for a tenner.
Also, crop sensor cameras require a wider focal length than what is desired in order to achieve the look you want. Wider is just never cheap. That 30mm vintage lens you got for 20 quid on ebay... suddenly becomes like a 45 or so. So in a way - for videography at least... it costs more.
I like the idea of certain micro four thirds cameras but with the 2x crop factor... getting a lens as wide as my 14mm full frame samyang is gonna be well... 7mm I guess. crikey!
Great points!!
Love the APSC camera. I always find it easy to carry my A6400 around.
Tried the FF on my trips, and I wouldn’t want it on my trips again.
Totally!
Love the video. What are your thoughts now as A7C and A7S3 are out?
Awesome video! I have a similar video on my list of ideas for the Canon M50 and M50 Mk II Vs. their full-frame lineup.
Love my 6400... with my 16mm sigma, & sony 90mm macro G lens. Plus a few others, but these 2 lenses rarely leave my camera bag. The images are... exquisite. Cheaper, all I need as a hobbyist. Happy to stop buying and just use this rig. Because i bought the 6400 i could afford the 90 macro as my first lens for it, so Glad I bought the FE 90mm... works great on the 6400, when I use the 90 6400 combo, my description is that the images I capture are what I'll easily call my money shots.
That’s awesome
Also, if more control over dof for the same composition or frame is what you want, full frame gives your more control. 1.4f on a full frame is 1.4x1.5=2.1f on aps-c. If you want the 1.2f effect on aps-c, it will be hard finding a 0,9f lens!
Yep! That’s true! I rarely find myself wanting anything that shallow but that’s subjective!
Mitakon 35 0.95 is awesome.
Thanks for the insightful content! I am looking for camera to bring along for hiking and landscape photography. What lenses would you recommend for the Sony A6600? PS: I prefer to save money haha.
Up until this point I have been shooting with small compact Canon G7X MarkII, and its been great for travelling and the photo quality is good, but now I feel I'm ready to upgrade. I prefer APS-C over fullframe, because it is more compact and weights less. So I can still stick it to my backpack and do some awesome shots of landscape.
The problem is which APS-C body to choose. I'm deciding between Fujifilm XT-3 and Sony A6500
“More room to carry around snacks” lol literally me 😂😂
Haha we’re not alone
vs me who carrys around like 5lbs of camera, flash, battery extension, and large redring 50mm with a hood - because it makes me feel kooler.
can you recommend some good, photography snacks?
@@ChrisJones-rd4wb Kooler with a k.
@@Amocles "oh man that guy has 10 lbs in camera gear around his neck, he must be a professional"
Just bought the A6600 with the all around lense 18-105mm G f4 and im super happy with this setup!! Great results
YAAAASSSSS! Did you get the a6600 already? It's not supposed to ship yet?
I have the A6000 with the 18-105mm G f4. Best kit ever! Everytime I think about going full frame can't find a reason why, to switch, this camera and lens gives me awesome results and when traveling it's the only thing I need. Plus an extra battery.
Nice!
Your videos are very great and explanatory, it would be great if you made content about Fujifilm. Greetings from Argentina!
Thank you, this was very helpful
I shoot with both APSC (A6600) and full-frame (A7iii) and agree with everything you mentioned. PSC is certainly good enough for the vast majority of uses and users. However, the A7iii has some advantages. One advantage is that I like the way that I can adjust shutter speed, f/stop and exposure compensation with the dials physically located around the shutter button.
just bought a Sony alpha 6000 plus a Sigma 30mm:) I feel good about my decision!
great Video!wich camera/lens you using to shoot this?
To be honest... I don't remember... maybe my a6400 with the sigma 30mm.
If you still own both of the cameras, any chance to see side by side comparison of an image taken with both cameras? For example portrait, landscape and high iso situations? Preferably kind of identical pictures! That would be awesome.
I'm actually using an Olympus MFT and a Sony full frame, and I'm perfectly happy with both :) depends on situation where I pick which, like portrait where I drive with my car to the location? Let's go Sony!
Nice! That’s awesome!
It's interesting to hear someone refer to the a7 as a large camera in comparison to the a6 when it was the a7 just a few years ago that was the goto option over bulky dslr bodies. Looking at the two cameras side by side, they're close in size.
The a7 series is still not big compared to dslr’s for sure, but as someone who just moved to full frame from the smaller apsc bodies, it actually is a bigger difference than you’d think. Things like long shoot days and fitting it in camera bags. I had to completely reorganize my bags to accommodate the extra size, both height and width. Personally I love that they’re bigger but it’s not for everyone. I’ve actually had a good amount of comments since posting this video of people saying they got rid of their a7 series in favor of the a6 series because of the size!
Good advice video, I shoot both as you mentioned each the apsc and full-frame have plus and minuses, as I tell my students use the right tool for the job and you'll never go wrong.
I recently bought the a6600 with the Zeiss 16-70 f4 and the Sony 35mm f1.8 for photography. Right after I bought it I learned that this camera is seen as a vloggers cam, so I started feeling crappy about my purchase :( But the fact that I don't earn back the money I spent since it's not my profession and the fact that I shoot more with it because I drag it around easier, makes me feel ok with it. Looking to add an Sigma 16 1.4 to my collection for my trip to NY in a couple of months for wider angles and more light because of it's aperture. Or do you think my Zeiss will do? Keep up the good work man! Your vids are genius. Greets from the Netherlands
I wouldn’t feel bad about it at all! The Sony cameras are really great as versatile cameras, they might call it a vloggers camera to try to sell some more copies but it’s a great photo camera or video camera as well! As far as your trip goes, the 16-70 will be great! That’s nice versatile range. The only place you might run into issues is with low light. Then something like the sigma 16mm can help a bit for sure.
Dunna Did It I swapped the Zeis for the Sony 16-55 G 2.8. Totally bankrupt now, but extremely happy with it