I work in psychology. Anyone who says she is stupid or gullible is a moron themselves . Or that she is vulnerable with low self esteem. Most people would have fallen for this for several reasons 1) the fake profile was based on a real person she had met and had connections too 2) the messaging all started with very normal and believable things for some time before getting quite outlandish 3) most normal people would not dream that another human being would go through such extraordinary lengths to dupe them, i.e making up to 30 different characters, all to corroborate the lie
Yet do you justify that she was mentally abused and didn’t walk away because of lack of self respect… your being told what to do, isolating from family, as well as quitting your job for another human being you have never met nor seen in person any sane human being would not allow themselves to continue foward unless they were desperate for the possibilities
Mate even if I love my girlfriend, and she throws a bloody hissy fit if my mom or grandma is sick, I'd be like bitch go f yourself and carry on caring for my family until she comes around. When she does, I'd make her realize how toxic she's behaving and apologize. And if she wouldn't, then adios, why would I want to be with someone like that? Getting duped is understandable. Not standing up for yourself with a million and one reasons on top of that is just unbelievable and makes her lose one's respect. (Since she clearly doesn't even have her own.) Not trying to sound rude, just that no, this whole ordeal can't "happen to anyone".
You don't believe anyone would waste 10 years in a relationship with a man or woman they can't see. Please don't project this person's lack of self respect and standards on the entire population. 🚩You don't get introduced to someone's family via a Facebook group chat. 🚩People in the Witness Protection Program don't get to use their same name or keep former contacts or connections, DEFINITELY not their social media 🚩Couldn't even video chat and see his face for YEARS 🚩He "cheated" and she planned on being a step-mom (idiotic & desperate) Normal people aren't staying in contact with someone as a romantic interest that they cannot see through Skype, FaceTime, etc. Most, need immediate gratification and this wouldn't cut it. 🚩No FaceTime but her cousin could give her a t-shirt and met him in person. GTFOH She gave up a decade of her life for a t-shirt w Axe body spray and hearts on WhatsApp. It was foolish. Most people would not have believed the ridiculous lies for that long and moved on
Yes but then she also never ended the relationship herself which most women would after being cancelled on so many times. So yes there must be elements of gullibility and low self esteem.
What about all the witness protection rubbish? Surely it would have rung some alarm bells? Didn’t her friends say anything? I also have a psychology degree and life experience and there was something quite suspicious about the whole thing! It wasn’t adding up. I’m also curious how the other characters were supposedly talking to her, was her cousin using a voice app or what?
Let us pause for a minute and think how would the story have gone if Bobby was a real guy with all those red flags totally ignored by Kirat. He literally destroyed her emotionally, destroyed her career with jealousy and locked her in a small world called "Bobby".. she should have had broken up with a toxic narcissist man like that .. treating her in a nasty way when she was all vulnerable, passionate and kind... She would have had saved her "life" from being breached like that!!! She should have had googled him she should have had investigated more before getting herself into all this .. best wishes to Kirat i wish u find the love and respect u deserve in life❤
I hope she gets therapy- any woman that spend 18 years in a relationship and being treated badly in that relationship needs to understand why she makes the choices and decisions she does. Then comes Bobby- too many red flags for me when I watched the netflex show and I do not understand how she did not talk to her girlfriends to give her some perspective and honest advice. Instead she isolated herself and defended how badly Bobby treated her. At some point, we are all responsible with our decisions. This does not excuse her sick cousin and she should be punished. A valuable lesson for everyone to be vigilante in who you let in your life. Thanks for sharing your story as painful as it was.
She’s not stupid she’s broken emotionally damaged that incident left her devastated for whole life. Simran had been snatched from her a most precious moment of being mother that’s cruelty.. I’m sorry Kirat More power to you
Kirat had PLENTY of opportunities to leave she chose not to in her 30s. Simran is highly problematic, obviously. Kirat was too old to stay in an online relationship for a decade. That was a terrible personal choice. She chose to give up everything for absolutely nothing and that was BEFORE she found out who was behind the illusion. She still hasn't moved on. She needed help before she started getting catfished. She was in an off and on relationship for 15+ years. She had NO BOUNDARIES or self esteem, that isn't anyone else's issue but Kirat's. She takes no personal accountability for the role she played in giving years of her life away to someone who couldn't even accidentally get her pregnant.
@@eleanoramaraI wish you could understand the real pain of being alone and searching for real love to live with them .. this is the only mistake she had made in her life
@dramna6386 that can't be the "only" mistake she made if she had an on again, off again relationship for more than a decade with her previous boyfriend. She refused to learn the lesson
@@eleanoramaraI think you are disregarding the cultural aspect and upbringing of Kirat which formed her way of thinking. She said so also in the beginning of the documentary. I don’t blame the parents but their upbringing clearly made Kirat into a very people pleasing and not boundary stating person, which is not only her fault and something you cannot change easily without professional help. I hope she is in therapy and can now start to unlearn some unhealthy patterns. ❤
I’m sorry but for 10 freakin YEARS???!!! I can’t empathize with this level of gullibility, it’s beyond naïveté. It’s too bad she got duped, BUT it’s on her for allowing it to go on for 10 years! And yes Simran is most likely a psychopath, for doing such a thing. She has her own issues for sure.
Let's pretend Bobby was real. Kirat was emotionally attached to a man who didn't take her on dates, didn't buy her roses or gifts, didn't see her in person. So basically she fell for a fictional character and let this continue for 10 years. She claims she wanted marriage and children, how would this even be possible given the circumstances? Evidently she wanted an online relationship. Kirat needs to take some accountability herself, due to the lack of boundaries she had she allowed this to continue and this is why the police officers and court won't take her case seriously! Because realistically, if Simran had never revealed it was her, Kirat would clearly let this continue for another 10...15....20 years!
This 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼 couldn’t agree more. At some point you start asking questions it’s almost as though she wanted to be swept away by this fictional make believe character who is on witness protection and whispering away… common gullible much?
EXACTLY also if she had any Self respect why wouldn’t she question him for not encouraging her to meet his parents or family / in his absence including the other so called friends and members of the “community” she was chatting to? How come she didn’t meet one person from this virtual fake world! And why is nobody asking that Q!!
Most online relationships are like that, I think kirat fell in love with "bobby" an image of her ownself. He had imagined certain characteristics in a partner and she imposed it on "Bobby" and "loved" him.
no if you listen to the tortoise podcast, simran posing as bobby regularly sent her flowers and gifts ans jewellery and her mom in the netflix talks about thus
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also if she had any Self respect why wouldn’t she question him for not encouraging her to meet his parents or family / in his absence including the other so called friends and members of the “community” she was chatting to? How come she didn’t meet one person from this virtual fake world! And why is nobody asking that Q!!
I think, and I am not in her head, but when you are madly in love and or in an abusive relationship , you believe anything to keep the peace. You even make connection between things that aren’t even there.
@@peerprojectpod right so she should do some introspection then!! And not act like a victim. She hasn’t once taken responsibility for one even minor thing. That is a massive red flag 🚩
I work in psychology. Anyone who says she is stupid or gullible is a moron themselves . Or that she is vulnerable with low self esteem. Most people would have fallen for this for several reasons
1) the fake profile was based on a real person she had met and had connections too
2) the messaging all started with very normal and believable things for some time before getting quite outlandish
3) most normal people would not dream that another human being would go through such extraordinary lengths to dupe them, i.e making up to 30 different characters, all to corroborate the lie
Yet do you justify that she was mentally abused and didn’t walk away because of lack of self respect… your being told what to do, isolating from family, as well as quitting your job for another human being you have never met nor seen in person any sane human being would not allow themselves to continue foward unless they were desperate for the possibilities
Mate even if I love my girlfriend, and she throws a bloody hissy fit if my mom or grandma is sick, I'd be like bitch go f yourself and carry on caring for my family until she comes around. When she does, I'd make her realize how toxic she's behaving and apologize. And if she wouldn't, then adios, why would I want to be with someone like that?
Getting duped is understandable. Not standing up for yourself with a million and one reasons on top of that is just unbelievable and makes her lose one's respect. (Since she clearly doesn't even have her own.)
Not trying to sound rude, just that no, this whole ordeal can't "happen to anyone".
You don't believe anyone would waste 10 years in a relationship with a man or woman they can't see.
Please don't project this person's lack of self respect and standards on the entire population.
🚩You don't get introduced to someone's family via a Facebook group chat.
🚩People in the Witness Protection Program don't get to use their same name or keep former contacts or connections, DEFINITELY not their social media
🚩Couldn't even video chat and see his face for YEARS
🚩He "cheated" and she planned on being a step-mom (idiotic & desperate)
Normal people aren't staying in contact with someone as a romantic interest that they cannot see through Skype, FaceTime, etc. Most, need immediate gratification and this wouldn't cut it.
🚩No FaceTime but her cousin could give her a t-shirt and met him in person. GTFOH
She gave up a decade of her life for a t-shirt w Axe body spray and hearts on WhatsApp. It was foolish. Most people would not have believed the ridiculous lies for that long and moved on
Yes but then she also never ended the relationship herself which most women would after being cancelled on so many times. So yes there must be elements of gullibility and low self esteem.
What about all the witness protection rubbish? Surely it would have rung some alarm bells? Didn’t her friends say anything? I also have a psychology degree and life experience and there was something quite suspicious about the whole thing! It wasn’t adding up. I’m also curious how the other characters were supposedly talking to her, was her cousin using a voice app or what?
Let us pause for a minute and think how would the story have gone if Bobby was a real guy with all those red flags totally ignored by Kirat. He literally destroyed her emotionally, destroyed her career with jealousy and locked her in a small world called "Bobby".. she should have had broken up with a toxic narcissist man like that .. treating her in a nasty way when she was all vulnerable, passionate and kind... She would have had saved her "life" from being breached like that!!! She should have had googled him she should have had investigated more before getting herself into all this .. best wishes to Kirat i wish u find the love and respect u deserve in life❤
Very well put!
I hope she gets therapy- any woman that spend 18 years in a relationship and being treated badly in that relationship needs to understand why she makes the choices and decisions she does. Then comes Bobby- too many red flags for me when I watched the netflex show and I do not understand how she did not talk to her girlfriends to give her some perspective and honest advice. Instead she isolated herself and defended how badly Bobby treated her. At some point, we are all responsible with our decisions. This does not excuse her sick cousin and she should be punished. A valuable lesson for everyone to be vigilante in who you let in your life. Thanks for sharing your story as painful as it was.
She’s not stupid she’s broken emotionally damaged that incident left her devastated for whole life. Simran had been snatched from her a most precious moment of being mother that’s cruelty.. I’m sorry Kirat
More power to you
Kirat had PLENTY of opportunities to leave she chose not to in her 30s. Simran is highly problematic, obviously. Kirat was too old to stay in an online relationship for a decade. That was a terrible personal choice. She chose to give up everything for absolutely nothing and that was BEFORE she found out who was behind the illusion. She still hasn't moved on. She needed help before she started getting catfished. She was in an off and on relationship for 15+ years. She had NO BOUNDARIES or self esteem, that isn't anyone else's issue but Kirat's. She takes no personal accountability for the role she played in giving years of her life away to someone who couldn't even accidentally get her pregnant.
Thank you. There seems to be a lot of victim blaming here. Thank you for being so kind to her
@@eleanoramaraI wish you could understand the real pain of being alone and searching for real love to live with them .. this is the only mistake she had made in her life
@dramna6386 that can't be the "only" mistake she made if she had an on again, off again relationship for more than a decade with her previous boyfriend. She refused to learn the lesson
@@eleanoramaraI think you are disregarding the cultural aspect and upbringing of Kirat which formed her way of thinking. She said so also in the beginning of the documentary. I don’t blame the parents but their upbringing clearly made Kirat into a very people pleasing and not boundary stating person, which is not only her fault and something you cannot change easily without professional help. I hope she is in therapy and can now start to unlearn some unhealthy patterns. ❤
I’m sorry but for 10 freakin YEARS???!!!
I can’t empathize with this level of gullibility, it’s beyond naïveté.
It’s too bad she got duped, BUT it’s on her for allowing it to go on for 10 years!
And yes Simran is most likely a psychopath, for doing such a thing. She has her own issues for sure.
I don’t think we are meant to empathize because we haven been through it
Let's pretend Bobby was real. Kirat was emotionally attached to a man who didn't take her on dates, didn't buy her roses or gifts, didn't see her in person. So basically she fell for a fictional character and let this continue for 10 years. She claims she wanted marriage and children, how would this even be possible given the circumstances? Evidently she wanted an online relationship. Kirat needs to take some accountability herself, due to the lack of boundaries she had she allowed this to continue and this is why the police officers and court won't take her case seriously! Because realistically, if Simran had never revealed it was her, Kirat would clearly let this continue for another 10...15....20 years!
This 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼 couldn’t agree more. At some point you start asking questions it’s almost as though she wanted to be swept away by this fictional make believe character who is on witness protection and whispering away… common gullible much?
EXACTLY also if she had any Self respect why wouldn’t she question him for not encouraging her to meet his parents or family / in his absence including the other so called friends and members of the “community” she was chatting to? How come she didn’t meet one person from this virtual fake world! And why is nobody asking that Q!!
Oh I hope not
Most online relationships are like that, I think kirat fell in love with "bobby" an image of her ownself. He had imagined certain characteristics in a partner and she imposed it on "Bobby" and "loved" him.
no if you listen to the tortoise podcast, simran posing as bobby regularly sent her flowers and gifts ans jewellery and her mom in the netflix talks about thus
Wie doof kann man denn sein?! Braucht man denn wirklich Jahre dafür um zu erkennen dass die Hauptdarstellerin selbst eine Betrügerin ist?! Dankt mir irgendwann
I don’t know if your comment got lost in translation but if you inferring that Kirat herself is a fraud, I find that hard to believe.
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also if she had any Self respect why wouldn’t she question him for not encouraging her to meet his parents or family / in his absence including the other so called friends and members of the “community” she was chatting to? How come she didn’t meet one person from this virtual fake world! And why is nobody asking that Q!!
I think, and I am not in her head, but when you are madly in love and or in an abusive relationship , you believe anything to keep the peace. You even make connection between things that aren’t even there.
@@peerprojectpod right so she should do some introspection then!! And not act like a victim. She hasn’t once taken responsibility for one even minor thing. That is a massive red flag 🚩
Something clearly happened at Simrans school that Kirat is covering. it was mentioned at the end of the Netflix show.
Was it? I never saw it