Do you think the reason Emily is likeable at all is because we see the show from her POV? If we saw it from Daniels or Amanda's, for example, it would be very disturbing and we'd probably see Emily as a creepy villain and deceiver. Lil Koala one of my subscribers said this and I thought it was so true!
Yes Emily in a way is a villain just like Victoria but I do understand why she is the way she is like with Nolan the reason she doesn't want his help is because she doesn't want anybody else dying because of her just like what does happen to Amanda her friend plus people treated her with such cruelty and abuse as a child that of course she wouldn't trust anyone 🤔🤨
They could've definitely made daniel the MC and him becoming suspicious of her wouldve been pretty interesting to see, him then trying to find out what shes about, and then finding out about his parents crimes, and then his sister is only hos half sister, it works pretty well, since he's not as heartless as emily, wouldve rooted for him for sure.
I haven't watched the show since it ended and I would say that Emily is a genuinely likeable person when she's not being a huge bitch to people. Like she clearly cares about the people around her she's just detached. I would say as the show goes on she become more and more unlike which is why her getting the happy ending is a bit dissatisfing.
You know like in Kill Bill there’s a moment when the bride kills one of her enemies and she sees her (that enemy’s) daughter? She tells her she will be waiting for her when and will understand when she comes? I think Emily is a hero of her story, and we understand and sympathise with her, but of course another character would have a completely different take on her actions.
In my opinion, the reason that Emily's happy ending feels so jarring is because it undermines the original premise of the show. In the pilot, they go out of their way to convey that this show is about revenge and that pursuing that journey does not result in happiness, and will only bring you pain. Emily is so angry and vengeful that she chooses this path despite knowing the consequences. I believe there's a quote at the beginning something like if you choose revenge, prepare two graves - one for those who wronged you and one for yourself. I think the message of the 'Revenge' was lost when the show took a turn towards becoming very much a soap opera (her dad being alive and coming back).
I felt like David coming back was just an excuse for the show to roll another season, in order to settle emily's love life, as it came to a dead end after aiden's unneccessary death
In my opinion it was an interesting plot twist to the show. Emily did this revenge and then suddenly her father for who she did it, is alive. It's sort of breaking her entire world. It was stupid from them to kill her father at the end.
I agree. It broke me too. Even though I feel like at first they kinda showed smth between Emily and Jack, Jack was never the one for her. Aiden was the one for her.
Yes Jack was a good person with strong morals it doesn't make sense for him to end up with Emily but aiden had a reason to do anything to get what he wants just like Emily they were perfect together
Imo, Aiden never respected Emily. The way he forced his will on her, framed Jack for the Priests murder, constantly sabotaged her missions to fit his agenda, all seemed hypocritical and like he didn’t understand her at all. I feel like the only reason she ever got with Aiden was because Jack was mad at her in the beginning of season 3 and rejected her.
I felt like Emily hated Victoria so much because I think she feels guilty for hating her father while she was young. Conrad and Victoria were both responsible for setting David up, but it couldn’t have been done without Victoria. She betrayed his trust and handed over the laptop (young Amanda sees this). Victoria also took the extra steps to make sure young Amanda knew what a terrible person her father was with that therapist she had on her payroll. What Conrad and Victoria did was messed up but with Victoria it was personal. She even ruined her memory of her father for such a long time. It doesn’t seem like a significant thing to be angry about, but for someone who literally had everything stripped away from them, the memory of their loved ones can be the very thing to hold onto and to sort of keep them going and Victoria made sure of it she didn’t have that , at least that’s how I see it.
She also went after her mother just because she knew about David and Victoria's affair. Basically Conrad and them framed David but Victoria personally made it so Amanda had little chance of recovering. She took the chance of talking to her father and mother away from her and had her locked up and poisoned her against her father and left her to be judged as the daughter of the devil.
I think Victoria is jealous to see David and Amanda have a very good bond between father and daughter, something she never had in her entire life. Especially the fact her real father is her rapist! That's why she never tell Charlotte that her real father is David not Conrad and if you watch Season 4 when Charlotte reunited with her real dad, there's a disconnection between them unlike David did to Amanda when she was little. David didn't look happy around Charlotte and so did Charlotte who got manipulated by Victoria. The worst part is, the last time Charlotte remember, her parents were on date while she got kidnapped and none of them helping her instead she called Emily instead! Ironically, Victoria lose by the love of father and daughter as David shot her and saved his daughter's life. David's true love is his daughter, Amanda and Victoria's true love is herself.
Emily and Nolan’s relationship is definitely one that I loved. It was so layered and at times wholesome, but Nolan rarely ever called Emily out even when he really needed to but at the same time I see why he didn’t call her out. I just live for the two of them.
Same! I've been wondering about this show but not enough to actually watch it, this review is very good so far. Was Emily jealous that Charlotte got to have a father and she didn't? I will finish the video to catch up, but after just 7 minutes Emily seems worse than Walter White xD
I think the character of Emily really spoke to the side of us that has been wronged, the side that only comes out when we´re in the shower thinking up all the things we should have said and done when we let other people walk all over us instead. We got to watch a revenge fantasy play out while we - in the real world- just have to live with our trauma and pain. I honestly didn´t care that Emily isn´t a good person. She spoke to my sense of injustice and I wanted to see her enemies punished. This whole show really spoke to my inner vengeful self.This self doesn´t want to be polite, doesn´t WANT to be good. It just wants to see the world burn sometimes. And that is EXACTLY what we got from Emily.
this actually summarises one of the things i like about her as a character, shes playing out our fantasies and its satisfying. But i wish shed treated people with more respect who were actually nice to her, like nolan for example.
@@SerenaSkybourne I agree. This is why Nolan ended up being my favorite character, not Emily. Even though she fulfilled this fantasy of thr vengeful angel we all want to be sometimes, I ended up identifying with Nolan more. He is the one being hurt by her actions just as she was hurt by people in the past. The fact she never really recognizes this parallel is a shame, it would have made her character more likable, complex and deserving of the happy ending she got.
I didn't watch the last season because after revealing Emily's dad is alive I rage quit the show. Season 3 could've been a great series finale. Victoria was put in a Psych ward for 'losing it' and Conrad was killed. Emily had her revenge. The end. If you replaced his killer with a random dude I would've been satisfied.
Her dad being alive the whole time just made her revenge scheme and the show as a whole completely pointless. I still rewatch the first and second seasons every so often though.
Emily is AMAZING. I love how basically no one is good in the show. It’s not good vs evil. It’s just pain and darkness, all over The place. I thing it’s amazing how it makes you love terrible people. I love Emily, I cried for Emily, is she a good person? Absolutely not. The same for Victoria. So many times I got emotional because of her and her pain. And yet she is a terrible person. Just Love it.
And I like that she got a happy ending. It’s not a fairytail where only heroes get happy ending. She is a bad person (even though I empatize with her a lot)She ended up happy. Fine by me. I love her so I’m happy she’s happy (EVEN THO I WANTED HER TO BE WITH DANIEL)
I’m overexplaining myself but I just love How The show makes a character that are so bad, They make Terrible things, they are ruthless, but they also have so much pain inside of them, and you kinda hate them, but you empatize with them. You love their fragile and good parts, but you love even more their wicked and twisty sides. And they’re so brilliant and smart that you also admire them so much. The author took The theme of “morally gray characters” and made it in such an interesting and brilliant way. It’s just fantastic.
I think what’s cool is that Revenge doesn’t want to teach you about morals and ethics(opposits to like Once Upon a Time). The show wants to talk about pain and darkness
its so interesting hearing other opinions! I think Emily is a great character but I found her ending a bit over-the-top "happy ending" which feels out of place for someone as dark and twisted as Emily is, I kinda wanted it to have an ending that was a little more unique considering how unique Emily is as a character. Reading your comments though, I get what you mean! It's kind of cool for the anti-hero to "win" so we could look at it as a good thing!
@@SerenaSkybourne that’s why I wanted her with Daniel. I mean, Yeah I shipped her more with him then with Jack (also because Jack... well...) but most of All because I love The idea that the final happy ending is messed up ad the rest. She lied and did terrible things to him and to his family. He shot her and she can’t have kids now because of it. At the end (after the scene you talk about of them talking to each other, for the first time knowing Who they have in front of their eyes) they develop again feelings and forgive each other. They forgive Terrible things that in real life should not be forgive (like you know... attemptet murder) but in the show it would’ve fit so well! Also it could a way for both of them to come to terms with their darkness and move in from Everything. Even if this would’ve not happened, Daniel death is still the worst thing that happens, it’s maybe worse even then David being alive (well maybe). He could have given so much more and I would have loved to see what epilogue he would’ve Got. He decides to leave the Hamptons and live a peaceful life? He becomes a Conrad 2.0? He marries Emily and they live their twisted happy ending togheter 🥺 ? Nah he dies in a stupid way
Also, with Charlotte again, if she was this revered love child that Victoria adored, why would she ever say to the therapist that she regretted having a second child? That whole thing with how Daniel was the obvs favourite but they tried to write it in how Victoria loved her so much because she was part of David? Its so.. Contradicting
Also, every time Charlotte is in danger, Victoria is either always in somewhere place to do her things or sleep with another men! And she's also never visiting Charlotte on rehab. Did Charlotte also figure it out that her mom was responsible to make Declan died in Season 2 and made her miscarriaged?
I think Emily really loved Daniel especially after he found out who she was, I was sad when he died because I thought they could in some messed up way have a future. Aiden is still definitely her soulmate tho😭
@@rahbeeuh while i kinda agree, she did start to fall in love with him before he aligned himself with his father for that interview. If he would have come clean about the bombing and David, he wouldn’t have gotten “revenge” so heavily from her. This was an important plot point because before this she was having doubts about the revenge. Daniel’s “betrayal”, what she considered betrayal ultimately made her continue the plan even more and with more hate. You will notice this a few times including when Adrien died
@@yaranassar4190 I s'pose you make a good point. I still think she was fond of Daniel until the betrayal. I don't think it was ever love though. Maybe a softening bc she was guarded & calculating but that sting of betrayal put all that back into place.
No way Emily could be the villain in a show where the Graysons exist. I will never be mad at Emily/Amanda for wanting to get revenge on the people who literally brainwashed her into hating her father. She did it to clear her father's name, and that kind of pain is hard to forget about. The Graysons needed to be taken down.
Emily didn't get brainwash to hate her father. She's still love him. Everyone is always seeing her as "The terrorist daughter" most of the time and she got a lot of bad treatment from her childhood. It's just too bad when she learns that her father has been captivated by a mafia for so long and only come out when his name got clear and she has to feel the pain of losing her loved ones, Fake Amanda and Aiden, got tortured by The Graysons when she blackout, and got tortured since she was in Orphanage. She realized her father was a total coward man who was simping so much to his former boss' wife.
I think there's no commentary videos on Revenge because the show was already over by the time social media commentary videos became super commonplace. They should make the spin off series that was hinted at in the show finale.
Correct me if I’m wrong but weren’t producers considering doing a spin off show with Nolan. And like him helping other people find revenge the way he helped Emily. I think that would have been interesting to see
Also, in the finale, there's a young man asked for Nolan for help to clear his mom's name and he said Amanda Clarke sent him. Too bad ever since the show got cancelled for a long time and it almost a decade and Gabriel Mann (Nolan's actor) is 50 years old now, while Emily VanCamp is too busy in MCU as Sharon Carter and as Nick in The Resident, it won't happen.
I always felt like her story with Daniel could be her most interesting one (romantically wise). They had a great chemistry imo (they are married in real life so yeah) and he also saw her for who she was. Plus I love the lovers to haters to lovers trope haha
am I the only one who really liked Emily and Daniel in the first season? Like Emily developing genuine feelings for Daniel and being conflicted about the whole revenge thing would have been so interesting to explore. And it's hinted at in the first season that she actually does love Daniel to some degree and that just kind of vanished in later seasons. Like his entire personality just changed over night pretty much - like one minute he was trying to remove himself from his family and the next he was covering up the fact that they framed David Clarke. In my opinion, I think Daniel kind of broke Emily's heart when he went along with his father later on in season one, and they barely even talk about that? anyway. This show lost the plot in season 2. Like I liked Aiden but to me his love story with Emily felt kind of random? And with Jack he was just in love with some childhood version of her. Loved this video btw!
I loved Emily and Daniel. Chemistry was insane, clearly, as they are married in real life. I also loved Jackand thought Aiden was alright, so I was down for every romance all the time - but Daniel and her were something else, I guess because of the intrigue as to whether Emily was slipping and falling for him genuinely. I thinks she definitely loved him, but him siding with the Graysons was all she needed.
And he was even acting like Conrad after they got divorced and even mocking her in elevator in Season 4 when they got trapped together due to elevator's malfunction as "Sad Daddy's girl who wants revenge to his family" I hate how when he took the bullet for her, he didn't even apologize for shooting her in their wedding.
I think one of the most despicable things Victoria did was leaving an open bottle of alcohol for Stevie Grayson, a 20 year sober recovering alcoholic. On my re-watch, I was like wow that is cold.
I love Emily as a character. I can't help but root for her, and I think it's because despite the despicable things that she does, she's a very understandable character. Like, she feels like a real person and her motives always feel real and her emotions feel valid. That's why I think that whenever she "loses control", we're okay with it. We see her trying to control her own life, when she's had control taken from her so many times, and we want her to succeed. She has a hard time trusting people because she couldn't trust anyone when she was smaller. People lied to her, treated her badly, backstabbed her. It feels like her character makes sense, and so, in her POV, we we feel the same things, the defensiveness, the desperation. Even though I know she did horrible things, I know why she did them, and that's why she's such a potent main character. We're used to seeing a plain main character so that we can judge for ourselves what's fair and good and what's wrong, but she's very complex, which is why the show is so interesting. Understanding her story makes us want her to be well. I feel like her trauma makes her very relatable, and she brings to life the fantasy of every person who's been through that sort of thing alive, whereas in real life, people who've been through trauma often feel meek and small and are afraid to be rude. She's the best morally ambiguous character out there, in my opinion.
shes a great character in that sense and you cant help but feel sorry for her. however, i think if the show wasnt set in her POV she'd be a lot more disturbing and the way she speaks to nolan for example would seem a lot more inexcusable
In the beginning of Season 4, you can see she looked empty inside even Nolan asked her, "Are you sure you want to move on like this?" and very concerned about her. She deserved a lot of therapy after that especially for the ending. As much as I don't like her end up with Jack, but you gotta admit that Jack has a big patience to wait for his childhood friend to move on and get away from her problems.
A lot of people didn't like Amanda because she got in the way of Emily and Jack, but I liked her character and her relationship with Emily a lot. Their conflicting goals underscored by their loyalty (sometimes one-sided) was really interesting.
Also, fake Amanda had better relationship with Jack than the real Amanda. And Fake Amanda is a loyal friend and even tried so hard to defend Emily but Emily being a selfish bitch never appreciate her until her death which she regrets. Emily instead still hiding instead of clearing her real name just because Amanda was a stripper at the time. Emily is a terrible friend even she's always making Nolan on trouble every time and I hate how she never apologize to Nolan for the damage of what she's done.
Emily had a tendency to fall in love and care for those she's using. For example: Nolan - she used him as a link to her father and for his computer skills but she ended up loving him as a brother. Daniel - she used him as the link to slowly destroying the Grayson name and getting to Victoria but she ended up falling in love with him. Jack - she used him to ensure he was kept out of everything but was always an arms length away yet she fell in love with him. Amanda - she used her to swap identities, manipulating her to do so and yet Emily ends up loving her as a sister right before she dies. Aiden - she actually fell in love with him first but then continued to manipulate him and use him for her Revenge mission 😅
What I like about Fake Amanda is she was very loyal to Emily even though they had a rocky start in juvenile. She didn't mind to get her identity swap but too bad she made Amanda Clarke's name dirty for being a stripper as she went to the wrong way. She was even supported Emily to destroy the Graysons and honestly, she had better chemistry with Jack than Jack with real Amanda. Too bad, she never get a chance to be a mother. Ironically, even though she was a stripper before, she at least genuinely fall in love with one man who is Jack and way better than Victoria who slept with many men to please her and even had 3 different children with 3 different men.
I loved Revenge, but I think that it was mostly because of the cast. Particulary Emily VanCamp, Madeleine Stone (goddess), and Gabriel Mann, but Margarita Levieva and Hiroyuki Sanada as well. All such charismatic and interesting actors. The tension was insane. Now I have to re-watch! xD
This is honestly my favorite show. It’s the only shows that I’ve rewatched several times. Just a few notes: Emily *is* an anti-hero insofar she’s the protagonist but does not possess traditionally heroic qualities. VanCamp does a great job making Emily charismatic (which makes her sadistic tendencies more acceptable to the audience). In terms of her expressing empathy, I think facial expressions (particularly her eyes) shows when she’s softening w/ Jack or Season 1 Daniel. The writers also ensure to not have Emily *directly* cause someone’s death. I really agree with you on the show’s treatment of Amanda. The writers went out of their way to frame her as a liability and I didn’t understand until mid-season 2 that Emily actually cared about her. But Amanda pursuing Jack at all - manipulating his memories of a childhood friend- is almost as toxic as Emily/Daniel season 1. Next, I also understand why Emily ends up with Jack and not Aiden. To me, it’s the same exact reason why Katniss ends up with Peeta and not Gale. Emily and Aiden would be too similar (and thus would be trapped in trauma) while Jack actually brought out her selfless/soft side. Aiden always felt like Daniel’s replacement in the love triangle with Jack. But it honestly would’ve been more appropriate for her to end up alone. Lastly, the show should have ended at season 3. It’s the best season after season 1 (the mom storyline in season 2 was underdeveloped), and it ends with Emily getting her revenge but very bitter and alone. David’s role in season 4 reminds a lot of Alison post-season 3 of PLL. While David’s character is more interesting, I’m very tired of the “character we thought was dead is actually alive” cliche.
@@SerenaSkybourne Definitely. While I shipped him and Emily on my first watch, him losing Declan and Amanda AND his bar should have been deal breakers.
I think Nolan is codependent because of what he went through with his dad. Also Emily was the only person that understands him and her father. He’s also insecure he has money but a lot of people at to use him for that which is why he’s kinda of a loner and even when he want friends people think he is weird or strange I really had a lot of empathy’s for his character. He did let Emily get away with a lot but he also had time where he put his foot down and told Emily when she went to far and was wrong which ended up in him ignoring her. Emily was also very hostile towards to him he understands why she behaves like that. Honestly he also wanted to protect the daughter of the only person who believed in his goals and dreams. So I think it was a mix of feeling responsable for her and wanting genuine relationships.
@@SerenaSkybourne totally agree but I think in his mind she was justified she was so focused on getting revenge that she real hurt the people that loved her and wanted to help her he really didn’t deserve the time where she was also aggressive with him. Also there where lots of time when he voiced his disagreements with her . I’m not condoning Emilys actions but I think Nolan understood that even if he tried to do anything she would still do it. Both characters have their flaws but I loved the complexity and flaws they had.
@@SerenaSkybourne Definitely I remember getting angry so many time for her treating him like that 😞 but she was so consumed with wanting revenge she really did not notice how much she was hurting other people sometimes and became numb to it she realized this I think in later seasons I remember the episode when she finally bought Graysons house that she tried to take revenge for someone else. She said she didn’t know who she was beyond her goal to destroy the Graysons don’t remember the exact episode. She talked to Nolan about it.
Couldn’t have said it better, that’s what’s so great about the show, every character has a proper story and is complex and Nolan is definitely the perfect example
In my opinion, revenge is just more believable because most of the time we get to see how she pulled some of the stuff off vs how A was just magically able to do all sorts of stuff and bribe people left right and centre
I feel the same! I could never find anyone here on UA-cam talking about it. I loved this show, except the last two seasons. I loved Emily and Daniel together.
Idk if you ever watched Once Upon a Time, but that show CONSUMED my life throughout middle school, and I'd love to see one of these deep-dive type videos about it. Love your content!!
I don’t know how you think Emily isn’t likable. I find her to be a character with a lot of depth and fascinating layers that make her one of the most dynamic characters in a show! Great video as always!
I think she’s a well written character in that she’s so complex and driven. But the way she treated cuties like Nolan or toyed with Daniels feelings was too gross for me. Tysm for watching ♥️♥️
Emily is honestly one of the best strong female characters in TV show who is written very well. She is smart, manipulative and knows combat. And she's not always being a Mary Sue because she herself still has flaws.
I think the thing with Emily is while she’s lost a father the same way Jack had, Jack was grown... Jack had Declan and his friends, even Emily. When Emily lost her dad she was only a child, and every single person around her was against her and only looking out for themselves... You honestly can’t blame her for being cold to everyone around her, even those helping, for the first 2 seasons because she was so used to everyone having a secret vendetta her entire life. And even when she found out Charlotte was her sister she was amongst the Graysons, and still very much in their control. Think of it like this: if someone locked a baby in a room for the first 18 years of their life, and the only people they ever came into contact with had cruel intentions , they’re not going to have the same social interactions and understand social queues the same way most people would. Emily never fully trusted Amanda until it was too late, and it was only in Amanda dying that she finally realised that Amanda would die for her.
It’s also worth noting that while she had a terrible childhood and could never trust anyone directly around her, she wasn’t necessarily a horrible person. She had donated millions to children’s hospitals and foster care so that kids wouldn’t have the same upbringing she did. There are good sides to her they just can’t be shown much by the writers because they can’t make Emily appear soft to the people around her. Even with Victoria, is she a bit of an arsehole? Absolutely, but she was made that way from childhood traumas, with a good side popping up every now and again.
Because of the abusement of her childhood, Emily grows up to be an emontionless human and she lacks of empathy. She's even changing her identity ilegally with real Emily Thorne or fake Amanda Clarke. Whenever she's on her Revenge mode, she's always look very excited and focus by manipulating many people with her charms. But, whenever she's on her daily basic day, she looks like a robot which gets switched off. Even in Season 4 opening in Memorial Day, Nolan noticed that she's acting off and even ask her personally, "What are you gonna do right now?" It's like she has no purpose on her life anymore! And then David's coming back makes her losing her mind because she feels betrays and even questioning her existency. She refused to reveal her identity because of how people sees Amanda Clarke as "Terrorist's daughter" and she's afraid people will judge her like that. She's even always throwing Nolan and Jack under the bus because of her secrecy. Even responsible for making Amanda and Aiden death indirectly. She's showing a lot of sign of mental illness because of her abusement mentally. It would be better if in the end of Season 4, she gets locked up in the same Asylum where she locked Victoria in the end of Season 3 instead of happily ever after with Jack. So, after David dies for real, they lock her up as the punishment of going to revenge path.
I think Emily is just so emotionally stunted and blocked off that it's hard to apply basic human understanding here because most other people just wouldn't act the way she does
@@SerenaSkybourne I wonder if continuing the show was ever in question and so they had it set up that Emily was going to live "happily ever after" with Aiden, but then maybe it got renewed for more seasons and so they killed him off so her story would continue?
I just never felt the connection with jack, he’s. A great guy and all but I never bought the whole “they’re meant to be together” you’re right, she met him one damn summer. When she was like 6 WTF lol for a second right before Daniel died I hoped they’d be together. Victoria would see that and she’d go crazy. And every weekend her punishment is to see her son happy with Amanda whiles she’s committed. That way Her hands (Amanda) would be clean (for the most part) and she gets her revenge.
I never comment before watching but I’m just so excited because I absolutely adored Emily. Her thirst for revenge, her killer fashion, her cool-headedness, I thought she was absolutely gorgeous as well. I think the earlier seasons might be better but I loved this show regardless so I’ll have to say more after I watch 😅
I pretty much disagree with everyone in the comments and video lol. Emily did harm people in the process of getting revenge but it was established season 1 that she was not evil, but seeking justice for her father. That was solidified in the season 1 finale when she didn’t kill the white haired man. Season 3 and 4 was all about her trying to stop harming others (hence her relationship with Jack and all those scenes of her telling him how guilty she feels for Fauxmanda’s death despite not causing it) in the process of seeking justice. Victoria and Conrad died by their own hands, not Emily’s. The ending with her choosing peace and to live with Jack was foreshadowed in season 1 when she gave up her revenge plot to be with Jack. I’m also surprised by the amount of Aiden and Emily shippers. Aiden was clearly a filler character who didn’t even exist in season 1 until they needed a plot line to extend the life of the show. The main love triangle was always Jack X Emily X Daniel with jack representing Emily’s redemption arc.
Yes structure wise it was disappointing how randomly Aiden was introduced and I liked that Jack was there from the start. I think realistically though her and Aiden made sense x
For me, it didn’t feel like he was introduced late but rather he was just a male version of Emily created to add filler into the show (same with the Initiative). The way he constantly forced his will on Emily (framing Jack for the murder of the priest, forcing her to give up her revenge when Emily wasn’t ready to) as opposed to Jack who made Emily genuinely want to give up her revenge for him (which made Aiden soo jealous) made him feel like he was always a roadblock in their relationship rather than a viable second option. To me, the viable second option was Daniel, and I feel like the Aiden relationship just took screen time away from the Emily x Daniel relationship which I would have rather seen.
the fact tht Emily wasn't a "good girl" is why I liked this show. Why is it that women always have to be "secretly good" even if they are a clrearly shown to be this revengeful character? I love a villain in my stories. They're often so much more interesting and complex. I don't have to relate to enjoy them. And btw- unfortunatly you don't have to be a good person to get a happy ending in life. That's not how the world works...quite the opposite.
Oh I didn't realize faux-Amanda got so much hate! I loved her and felt she was a tragic character, completely used by Emily but still 100% loyal to her. All she wanted was a family.
Yeah, fake Amanda is genuinely care to Emily but can't believe that Emily always throw her under the bus many times just because she's jealous to see her getting close to Jack. Honestly, both Emily and Amanda are messed up for not using the name "Amanda Clarke" nicely. Fake Amanda was a stripper and real Amanda is faking her persona as Emily Thorne for so long, she's out of touch of reality.
I don't konw, i don't agree. Amanda caracter might seem sweets, but i really hated the way She insterted herself and took over Emilly's identity without her perimiton.Yeah She wanted the family, but the way She did that was too cunning to me. Loyalty? Please, She was being selfish at that point, plus She lied to Jack big Times. Fishy, i couldn't stand her
The thing i hated about Charlotte was that she was so quick to forgive anyone that did wrong to her but the ONE time she caught Emily in a lie (about Patrick) she decided to use that to derail Emily's and Daniel's entire relationship with Sarah and didn't apologize until she thought Emily was pregnant. Like, your mother lies to you ALL the time. Your father committed you and KILLED your baby daddy. Girl, get a grip.
I do think Emily is someone you're suppose to love and hate. You're suppose to love cause you'd do to revenge someone who hurted you in the past. How ever you hate that part of you. I think that's what the writers wanted amd as you watch the show you realize that Emily is the hero. Altough she hurts people and ruins their lifes, she's painted as someone who's fighting the bad guys. Everyone in the Hamptons feels like part of the Mafia and Emily is saving the world. That's what I remember from the show.
omg i was just thinking how there are no commentary videos on this show and how i wanted one, bc this show literally taught me english and this just appears in my recs? i love you!
Revenge is the one show where the more duplicitous the character the more I loved them. Emily wasn’t perfect - but her motivation was always clear. I think every person could potentially be a casualty if they went against the mission, and as crazy as it is, I kinda respect that. Amanda betrayed Emily by further inserting herself into the plot. I couldn’t wait til she was killed off. She was a huge distraction and not very smart. I agree with always wanting Emily to protect Charlotte more than she did. I think she’s the only character (and maybe Nolan) that deserved better from Emily.
Most of the fans didn't like David Clarke actually after he came back. I mean bcoz of his stupid decisions, emily have gone through a lot. But Victoria Grayson is amazing, her character development is so intriguing. I mean she always craved for love and trust ,but also have many flaws, cunning, selfish. The collateral damage was mostly done to poor Charlotte.
The villain is Conrad and Victoria Grayson. Those people took her childhood and innocence away from her. All those people got their karma for funding TERRORISM and blaming it on an innocent man. He didn't get to see his daughter grow up. His whole reputation was destroyed in front of the world. I can't get with people painting Emily as a villain when she was the victim in the first place. They did this to a little girl.
Of course Emily is a victim! What happened to her dad is awful and tragic, and to be honest since its the point of the show, her going on a revenge plot is a cool and unique idea. What I don't like is the way she spoke to Amanda and Nolan often very disrespectfully when they didnt deserve it.
@@SerenaSkybourne That happened when Amanda was being reckless. I love Amanda but she wasn't always being careful. She was in over her head when it came to the graysons. I remember Nolan and Emily getting into when Nolan didn't delete the evidence of all their plans and didn't tell her he had this. I don't think she just got on them for no reason. One wrong move and her whole cover is blown. She genuinely cared about them. They were only family she had left.
@@caribbeanadams3345 that’s what I thought too until I rewatched the show. Even in scenes where Amanda isn’t being reckless, and Nolan is just having a normal conversation with Emily, she’ll be cold, snappy, ungrateful and rude for no reason. It was a little annoying to watch after a while sadly
The Graysons are responsible to make Emily / Amanda becomes cold hearted person in the first place. Even Nolan and Jack are worried about her in beginning of Season 4 when her revenge agenda is over, she becomes a weird person who's still living with fake name and not being herself. And I hate how she didn't even tell that Victoria killed Aiden in public and put his body on her house. It would be better if the ending she got locked up in asylum with straight jacket and looking empty as her mental health is getting worse and she's becoming like a robot.
@@SerenaSkybourne i agree with the fact that Emilly was terrible to Nolan for no good reason. He tried to help her from day one and She was too annoyed with him even after She saw She needed and used his help every Time. What i don't agree îs that You also mention Amanda here - sorry, but She deserved all that behaviour from Emilly. Maybe not in the beggining, when She was treating her as a servant more than a firend, instead of asking nicely She was barking orders. I was surpised because i thought Emily should have been smarter than that. But then Amanda did the msot cunning thing and stole Emilly's life and identity. Even her ex cursh Jack, which by the way She lied to big Time, the poor guy fell inlove with her assuming She was someone else. She didn't even asked perimiton to Emily, She just decide out of the blue to take up her identity (even tho She was already known as Karen) and She did that onowing Jakc will fall deeper for her ( he was attracted to her, but when he fund She îs Amanda, really fell all the way for her). And You call her sweet after all this???? girl, wake up. Emilly has alot of flaws (especially heing rude to the people that help her for no reason) but Amanda?? Amanda did her dirty when She assumed her identity infront of Jack. She betrayed her friend and stole everything for her because poor her She only wanted a family și that justified her actions ?! She did all that in a very cunning way, and i am glad Emily staied composes and used her, She deserved it. She got what She deserved in my oppinon. Nolan îs the only one who deserved better treatment. All he did was help in big qays and getting shit about it, he îs the real victime, not Amanda. Amanda îs far from being a vitim, She was Shameless the way She lied and stole that life but hey îs ok because She wanted to have a home. 🙄 Right. Please. She was better off running to France, why didn't She start a family there? She just HAD to take over her "firend" identy, life and ex boyfriend, didn't She?? She was a greedy bitch in my oppinon and betrayed her firend for her owb alwfish reasons, She deserved the hate
i watched this so young i didnt understand how bad Emily was and thought she was so in the right that I'm betting now this is why i root for villains all the time lol
I literally rewatched the series b/c of this video and you’re absolutely right! I thought if Emily the same exact way and though she was so cool bit rewatching showed how much of a cold person she was. It really does show how our minds genuinely aren’t fully developed until a later age.
You: Talking about everything wrong with Revenge Me: -gets out my DVDs- let's start rewatching it again and ignore the "problems" because it's still my favorite show of all time- But I do agree to what you're saying, but I love Emily being "evil" and never really ending up being the "good" one. I'm sick of those good vs evil shows, I enjoyed this way more.
I disagree that emily doesn't have a soft spot for charlotte, she kept it inside because she was consumed by her mission and doing anything to reveal herself would be failure in her eyes
Well the reason Victoria didn't want to confess anything after seeing that fake Charlotte kidnapping video was that at that time she was fairly certain that Emily really was Amanda Clarke and had a feeling Emily was behind the kidnapping. She knew nothing was going to happen to Charlotte so she didn't want to admit her role in the David Clarke thing because it would have been pointless.
Also, Victoria never care so much to Charlotte. Every time Charlotte is in danger, she's always in somewhere place or even having an affair with different men! She's always using Charlotte as her puppet most of the time. She's way priotizing Daniel since Daniel was born on a rich family and remember that Victoria stole Conrad from Stevie, Conrad's first wife and also Jack's mother as she herself is a selfish manipulative golddigger whore. And Charlotte is the daughter of David Clarke, the man once she loved but she betrayed him because of how Conrad threaten her to be killed and also because of selfishness. The worst part is when Charlotte got kidnapped by a member of the gang, her parents (David and Victoria) were on date and they're not even visitting Charlotte on rehab at once to see what's she doing. Also, both Charlotte and Patrick (her firstborn son who is the product of rape by her own father whom she abandoned since she was a baby because she wanted to go to college and then he appeared at Season 3) didn't attend her fake funeral. How irony that her legitimate son, Daniel died while her 2 "bastard" children left her for good. Also, Daniel ranted to Victoria last time for going too far to Emily, for making her suffer again by separating her again with David.
After many terrible childhood that she has been through, she becomes an emotionless human. Even in the beginning of Season 4, Nolan is concern of what will she do after her revenge is over as she's not being herself anymore. Also, carrying the name Emily Thorne for so long make her feel out of touch of reality. It's like Emily Thorne is her split personality while Amanda Clarke died a long time ago. Technically, she should've been in prison for identity theft in the end but I don't think it will be count since both Amanda and Emily (either real or fake one) agreed to exchange their identity. But both of them make the name Amanda Clarke dirty. Fake Amanda a.k.a real Emily became a stripper while real Amanda is pretending as somebody else for so long.
Omg, thank you for mentioning voice narration. It was so bad and brought absolutely nothing to the table. It was something like “sometimes you afraid to lose someone you trust... and then you do”. So deep. Also I do not understand in what universe this is set. Why regular people always kill someone like it’s nothing. Charlotte trying to kill Emily completely ruined her character for me. And in the end everyone was mad at the lie that Daniel attacked Emily and she killed him. They were like “but he was a good man”. He actually shot her before... and didn’t suffer any consequences. Honestly kept watching just for Nolan. Can’t understand why the best character ended up alone
I think you don’t give Jack Porter enough credit. (I’ll use the girls original names to avoid confusion) Jack fell in love with Amanda all over again while she was going by Emily. There were several times he expressed his love for her before he knew that she was Amanda. When Emily came into the picture as Amanda she used her knowledge of jacks emotions for little Amanda to manipulate him, and like most people he used that trauma she allegedly went through as Amanda to excuse a lot of her bad behavior to a point. She also had Amanda’s help with manipulating Jack by giving her knowledge about their childhood (And yes he was a little blinded by the childhood love he had for Amanda) but after Emily took off he literally gave up on her and forgot about her. He then began to actually pursue Amanda as Emily so much so that she was going to give up on her revenge and be with him. But just as Amanda and Jack were about to be together Emily showed up pregnant with jacks baby. Jack was obviously not happy about this and wanted to be with Amanda but stayed with Emily out of duty and obligation to their child. He did somewhat come to terms with it just before Emily died. And when Amanda told Jack everything about the switch he got angry. He then helped her for a while but their romantic relationship wasn’t happening. He at that point tried to move on from all the revenge stuff by being with Margo until her magazine got into bed with the Greysons. Then after she took it too far with the kidnapping of Charlotte he left her and ditched the Hamptons for a long time. (Until he was forced back) so yeah it’s a little unfair to say he just automatically loved anyone who says they are Amanda. He loved Amanda even before he knew she was Amanda, and he loved Emily because Emily manipulated him to.
I always thought he had genuine feelings for Amanda and cared about her, definitely, I just thought it was weird how much he held onto his ‘childhood friend he barely knew’ memory
@@SerenaSkybourne thank you so much for replying! I do think he would have been way harder for Emily to manipulate if he hadn’t held on the the fuzzy memory of Amanda so much. (Which would have prevented him from dealing with getting Emily pregnant and probably got him to be with the real Amanda a lot sooner. But that would certainly have ended the series a lot faster.)
You gotta give him credits that he's never giving up to Amanda either real or fake person, he only loves Amanda Clarke. But, I don't understand how did he become a cop on earliest Season 4 even though he is a bar owner, how did he even qualify about it? As a result, his family bar got burnt by Charlotte to trap Emily because he didn't protect it!
AHHHH I'm so happy to finally see a reaction/commentary video on this show !! it was also a huge part of my teenage years as well I'm coincidentally in the middle of my 3rd or 4th rewatch of it too LOL
Aah thank you so much for this. I watched Revenge for the first time a year ago and I was so frustrated that I could barely find recent content about it, despite being such an entertaining and essay-worthy show! There's so much to hate and it's a whole mess.
her ending was horrible and honestly she didnt deserve it....she should have been punished for her actions, but she showed so much potential for redemption that it was just a shame to have the literal love of her life kill her in cold blood like that
I would love to see an in depth video like this from you about characters from The Vampire Diaries, and specifically the core 5 (elena, bonnie, caroline, stefan, damon). I agree with every point you make usually so I'd be really interested to see where you stand with the characters
I would absolutely love you commenting on teen wolf, the show had so many ups and downs in my opinion that I think you would ride an absolute roller coaster
I think the big difference between Emily and the Graysons is that she does bad things for good reasons. Meanwhile, they were just plain old malicious lol
you said it's weird that jack calls emily "amanda" at the of the show. that's because emily went back to her name "amanda". she is now amanda. she literally married jack under that name.
i enjoyed your take on the show a lot but i wanted to explain a few points that you might have missed. first of all, jack called her amanda in the end because she took on her real name (amanda clarke) again after her father came back. the only one who was still calling her “emily” or “ems” was nolan because the time they spent together while emily was fulfilling her revenge meant a lot to him. he felt appreciated and by calling her that he is kind of reminiscing about that time. second, amanda did not get her happy ending just like that. she lost a lot of people she loved in the process. in the beginning of the series there was this quote: “when you begin a journey of revenge, start by digging two graves: one for your enemy and one for yourself.” as we all know, amanda did not die in the end or got punished for killing victoria; because she didn’t. amanda was on the verge of killing victoria but her father appeared and he shot victoria. he did this to prevent his daughter from going to jail for life. david already knew he had cancer and would die anyways. so when amanda said in the end that the love of her father for her prevented her from losing her life, she meant the fact that her father was the one who killed victoria for her. i thought that the series was very good and although i wasn’t a fan of them bringing david back to life, the way they did it was okay. also, i never really saw amanda as the bad guy. her motives were very understandable and yes, she did do horrible things but it was very clear that she was traumatized and felt like there was nothing to hold onto except for her plan. and when she realized that charlotte was her sister it was already too late for her to just pull out of her plan. she became obsessed with it. but in the end, especially through her father she was able to let go of emily thorne and was able to finally embrace her true self again: amanda clarke.
Aiden's death, although very sad and heartbreaking, was poetic. He was the ONE for Emily. It reflected the theme of the first season.( Before embarking on a journey of revenge, dig two graves). Bringing back David was such a BAD BAD writing mistake. So bad that I can't even recommend my favorite show to other people. Edit: I also freaking LOVE Conrad.
I love Revenge and I love Emily. I was crying so much, especially when Aiden died. I am still not over his death. And then her father return was emotional and it was so unfair that he had to die
I hope they create at some point this Nolan spinoff, bc I remember loving him and I relating to him a lot and he was just such a fun character Btw, Aiden and Emily were way better than Jack and Emily. And Aiden was so great and Aiden's death traumatized my twelve years self so much.
omg just like u said in the beginning this show was such a huge part of my teenage years i used to be obsessed with it … tbh now i can’t rly remember how far i got i definitely didn’t finish it for various reasons mainly bc it stopped airing where i live but what i saw … truly iconic
Thank you for the video 🥰 It’s so funny you felt there was no chemistry with Daniel and Emily, I always thought vice versa and wasn’t surprised to find out the actors were actually together. I hear you with Amanda but I really think her series entry was crazy and if I were Emily I’d try to stay away from her - she comes after she murders someone for Emily. Now, this is too much love for me 😅 I grew into liking her, though, and her death was one of the saddest on this show.
I'll just tell you something I noticed as someone who liked to study villain dynamic. If we look at Emily as someone who is not supposed to care about her friends and family (excluding her father), her moments when she does appear heartwarming, like the hug scene with Charlotte, or her calling Nolan her friend, or showing some vulnerability with Jack, or showing real care for Daniel etc. But if we go with the assumptions she already cares, than her moments of mistreatment really stand out. The truth is Emily is genuinely a terrible friend. She is the kind of friend who expect you to drop everything for her and even if you do she acts annoyed if you are having second thoughts or not doing it fast enough. And while she never says the line "you'll do it if you love me", she does try to pull Nolan back in by implying he doesn't love her FATHER enough ("I thought you loved my father"). (I think this was 1x07) And there's a scene and this might actually be on accident where she says she knows how much his company means to him and she sounds so disingenious and toxic, like she doesn't mean it in the slightest. Jack even calls her out on this "You use everyone who cares about you, you took everything from me, even this goodbye". Also an interesting detail is little Amanda Clarke. She is supposed to be an innocent, carefree little girl. It's supposed to be believable that fake Amanda would be this girl. But later Jack and Emily have this scene where they talk about her wishes and who little Emily/Amanda never told him her wish as she was afraid of letting people in. Which goes against the whole narrative that her childhood made Emily the way she is, if even the little girl version has this issue.
Honestly, as someone who has frequent nightmares about past traumatic events, Emily having nightmares about Victoria in the last scene, doesn't seem like a fairytale ending
Glad to see so many different opinions in the comments section because it's a very interesting show with a lot of complex characters. I really love season 1, it's definitely one of my favorite shows and I keep re-watching the first season, but the rest of the seasons just aren't it for me. I think in season 2 the characters slowly started to loose what was interesting about them. For example, Victoria was my favorite villain in season 1, she is obviously a terrible person but we see that she really loved David Clarke and betraying him is something that still haunts her. It was very interesting to watch the main villain of the show kind of redeem herself in the first season finale. Then in season 2 Victoria just forgets about her plan to clear David's name and make Conrad pay for what he's done. She becomes a cliche bad character. Aiden was an unnecessary character imo since it was obvious that Emily and Jack were going to be together in the end. I get that the whole childhood friends storyline might not be realistic but it made the show more emotional (for example the scene in 1x21, where Sammy dies but brings Emily and Jack back together, was very touching). I wish it had a better ending but Revenge is a very special show for sure.
44:27 I think the white-haired man already suspected her true identity and also Nolan's life was in danger so Emily had to be very direct. And the reason why Emily left him there after couldn't killing him was because she thought her father's name was about to be cleared and the white-haired man wouldn't have time for anything other than escaping somewhere abroad.
You don’t understand how much I loved this show and how much I loved this review!! Thanks for the awesome vide, they’re no reviews on revenge and I loved your input!!
I've watched all your videos even though I never got past season one of PLL, I'm so happy to see you branch out into a show I was obsessed with as a kid haha
Emily and Nolan team work I love . Don't like that Daniel Jack bro had to die. I think her coldness towards people cause she was trained to be that way.. But Jack and her dad loved the way she was .. Hate how she treated Charlotte. and Amanda Victoria not so much cause she shouldn't had been with Emily dad.
I just hate how Emily uses innocent people get what she wants. She uses Daniel not to mention she cheats on him with Aiden. Then she acts like this poor innocent wife that is being cheated on when Daniel gets together with Sara. The worst part is that she doesn’t even love Daniel, she was just using him to get what she wanted.While Daniel love for her was pure and he even wanted to run away with Emily. Daniel may have been a jerk to Emily during season 3, but his actions are completely justified. She tortures and kidnaps Charlotte in season 3 episode 21 plus when Aidan and Jack tried to stop her, she doesn’t care that Charlotte is in pain she just says that charlotte will get over it. If she only gets revenge on the people that destroyed her father, that’s fine. But what angers me so much is that Emily manages to get innocent people hurt or even dead. Not to mention she uses innocent people to gain what she wants. A lot of characters in the show have told her to stop but she still continues on her revenge even when it becomes to extreme. Emily may have experienced hurt from what the Greysons and the other people that have hurt her but she is far from being innocent.
Also I don't think Ashley was dating Conrad she just impulsively sleeps with him when Victoria fires her which was more of an indication of how she's like Tyler in the sense that she'd sleep with whoever would help her get ahead but she genuinely loved Daniel Someone on reddit said Ashley got the boot because the new showrunner thought she was boring which I disagree with because margaux is as interesting as spicy white bread
Happy to be here, I’ve never seen a commentary video about this show and it was also a big part of my high school days. I regret to say I even wrote fanfic 🤦🏾♀️
i just finished a binge rewatch and came back to this vid to vent. 1. Emily and Jack have no chemistry by the finale!?!? 2. Nolan is a bi icon 3. Conrad Grayson's caricature of a rich white businessman is CAMP i loved it 4. David Clarke not recognizing his daughter/their anti-climatic weird reunion exacerbated my daddy issues 5. this may be some sort of plot device as the IRL Hamptons is 86% white ppl, but there were barely any POC ever lol 6. i love ur vids!!!
I just finished this show and it bugged me so hard that Daniel didn't get a mention in Jack and Emily's wedding speech ... Daniel quite literally gave his life for Emily they couldn't say the two syllables it would have taken to mention him? Especially in front of his sister Charlotte?
So glad to watch a review for revenge and can't wait for more content! What I liked about Revenge is that it was an unapologetic revenge fantasy. I really wish Emily ended up with Daniel. What killed Revenge for me is bringing David back. I'm also glad that they didn't focus too much on that shady operation, the initiative. IMO that's what killed Scandal, the focus on B613.
I LOVED THIS SHOW ❤❤❤❤ I am so happy you reviewed it. It was a big part of my young adult life. I love the setting, acting, mood, fashion, and Emily’s nail polish 😅
Do you think the reason Emily is likeable at all is because we see the show from her POV? If we saw it from Daniels or Amanda's, for example, it would be very disturbing and we'd probably see Emily as a creepy villain and deceiver. Lil Koala one of my subscribers said this and I thought it was so true!
Yes Emily in a way is a villain just like Victoria but I do understand why she is the way she is like with Nolan the reason she doesn't want his help is because she doesn't want anybody else dying because of her just like what does happen to Amanda her friend plus people treated her with such cruelty and abuse as a child that of course she wouldn't trust anyone 🤔🤨
They could've definitely made daniel the MC and him becoming suspicious of her wouldve been pretty interesting to see, him then trying to find out what shes about, and then finding out about his parents crimes, and then his sister is only hos half sister, it works pretty well, since he's not as heartless as emily, wouldve rooted for him for sure.
@@rainbow0027 i agree!
I haven't watched the show since it ended and I would say that Emily is a genuinely likeable person when she's not being a huge bitch to people. Like she clearly cares about the people around her she's just detached. I would say as the show goes on she become more and more unlike which is why her getting the happy ending is a bit dissatisfing.
You know like in Kill Bill there’s a moment when the bride kills one of her enemies and she sees her (that enemy’s) daughter? She tells her she will be waiting for her when and will understand when she comes? I think Emily is a hero of her story, and we understand and sympathise with her, but of course another character would have a completely different take on her actions.
In my opinion, the reason that Emily's happy ending feels so jarring is because it undermines the original premise of the show. In the pilot, they go out of their way to convey that this show is about revenge and that pursuing that journey does not result in happiness, and will only bring you pain. Emily is so angry and vengeful that she chooses this path despite knowing the consequences. I believe there's a quote at the beginning something like if you choose revenge, prepare two graves - one for those who wronged you and one for yourself. I think the message of the 'Revenge' was lost when the show took a turn towards becoming very much a soap opera (her dad being alive and coming back).
You’re right
Absolutely agreed. She did go through a lot of pain which she knew from the start, but getting her this happy ending was just wrong
I agree. It was when it was dark and twisted, yet set in such beautiful settings, that it was the best.
I felt like David coming back was just an excuse for the show to roll another season, in order to settle emily's love life, as it came to a dead end after aiden's unneccessary death
The quote was: before you embark on a journey of Revenge, dig two graves
The worst decision the show made was Emily’s dad being alive.
In my opinion it was an interesting plot twist to the show. Emily did this revenge and then suddenly her father for who she did it, is alive. It's sort of breaking her entire world. It was stupid from them to kill her father at the end.
@@jacqueline.9799 it was! It was stupid to bring him back to begin with and even more so to bring him back just to kill em off again
@@rahbeeuh nah, I don't think so. It was only stupid to kill him at the end. The rest was fine
Yes! It under minded what her revenge was for
I hated it!
I never thought Jack and Emily were a good couple, I always thought Aiden was as her soulmate and his death broke me
agreed
I agree. It broke me too. Even though I feel like at first they kinda showed smth between Emily and Jack, Jack was never the one for her. Aiden was the one for her.
Yes Jack was a good person with strong morals it doesn't make sense for him to end up with Emily but aiden had a reason to do anything to get what he wants just like Emily they were perfect together
Same. Aidan's death didn't have to happen but darn Victoria!!
Imo, Aiden never respected Emily. The way he forced his will on her, framed Jack for the Priests murder, constantly sabotaged her missions to fit his agenda, all seemed hypocritical and like he didn’t understand her at all. I feel like the only reason she ever got with Aiden was because Jack was mad at her in the beginning of season 3 and rejected her.
I felt like Emily hated Victoria so much because I think she feels guilty for hating her father while she was young. Conrad and Victoria were both responsible for setting David up, but it couldn’t have been done without Victoria. She betrayed his trust and handed over the laptop (young Amanda sees this). Victoria also took the extra steps to make sure young Amanda knew what a terrible person her father was with that therapist she had on her payroll. What Conrad and Victoria did was messed up but with Victoria it was personal. She even ruined her memory of her father for such a long time. It doesn’t seem like a significant thing to be angry about, but for someone who literally had everything stripped away from them, the memory of their loved ones can be the very thing to hold onto and to sort of keep them going and Victoria made sure of it she didn’t have that , at least that’s how I see it.
Yes! Exactly
She also went after her mother just because she knew about David and Victoria's affair. Basically Conrad and them framed David but Victoria personally made it so Amanda had little chance of recovering. She took the chance of talking to her father and mother away from her and had her locked up and poisoned her against her father and left her to be judged as the daughter of the devil.
I think Victoria is jealous to see David and Amanda have a very good bond between father and daughter, something she never had in her entire life. Especially the fact her real father is her rapist! That's why she never tell Charlotte that her real father is David not Conrad and if you watch Season 4 when Charlotte reunited with her real dad, there's a disconnection between them unlike David did to Amanda when she was little. David didn't look happy around Charlotte and so did Charlotte who got manipulated by Victoria. The worst part is, the last time Charlotte remember, her parents were on date while she got kidnapped and none of them helping her instead she called Emily instead!
Ironically, Victoria lose by the love of father and daughter as David shot her and saved his daughter's life. David's true love is his daughter, Amanda and Victoria's true love is herself.
Emily and Nolan’s relationship is definitely one that I loved. It was so layered and at times wholesome, but Nolan rarely ever called Emily out even when he really needed to but at the same time I see why he didn’t call her out. I just live for the two of them.
Agreed
I feel like I was the only one secretly hoping they were end-game. LOL
@@Rose-yt5hi same
@@Rose-yt5hi I thought they had a brother and sister relationship that was really sweet
Nolan is the best friend that everyone wished they had. He's loyal and smart.
I have NEVER seen any content for this show and I can’t wait to see what your takeaways are!
Right?!? This is the first revenge review I’ve seen and I’m so so happy
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Ikr! I woulda at least expected a msmojo video
I now right?? Love the series btw 😅
Same! I've been wondering about this show but not enough to actually watch it, this review is very good so far.
Was Emily jealous that Charlotte got to have a father and she didn't? I will finish the video to catch up, but after just 7 minutes Emily seems worse than Walter White xD
I think the character of Emily really spoke to the side of us that has been wronged, the side that only comes out when we´re in the shower thinking up all the things we should have said and done when we let other people walk all over us instead. We got to watch a revenge fantasy play out while we - in the real world- just have to live with our trauma and pain. I honestly didn´t care that Emily isn´t a good person. She spoke to my sense of injustice and I wanted to see her enemies punished. This whole show really spoke to my inner vengeful self.This self doesn´t want to be polite, doesn´t WANT to be good. It just wants to see the world burn sometimes. And that is EXACTLY what we got from Emily.
this actually summarises one of the things i like about her as a character, shes playing out our fantasies and its satisfying. But i wish shed treated people with more respect who were actually nice to her, like nolan for example.
@@SerenaSkybourne I agree. This is why Nolan ended up being my favorite character, not Emily. Even though she fulfilled this fantasy of thr vengeful angel we all want to be sometimes, I ended up identifying with Nolan more. He is the one being hurt by her actions just as she was hurt by people in the past. The fact she never really recognizes this parallel is a shame, it would have made her character more likable, complex and deserving of the happy ending she got.
I didn't watch the last season because after revealing Emily's dad is alive I rage quit the show. Season 3 could've been a great series finale. Victoria was put in a Psych ward for 'losing it' and Conrad was killed. Emily had her revenge. The end. If you replaced his killer with a random dude I would've been satisfied.
Her dad being alive the whole time just made her revenge scheme and the show as a whole completely pointless. I still rewatch the first and second seasons every so often though.
Dude who victim of Flight 197 who family got killed on the flight that killed Conrad
@@Rose-yt5hi Season 3 very good too finale is mixed for me season 4 looking abck was medicore to awful
Emily is AMAZING. I love how basically no one is good in the show. It’s not good vs evil. It’s just pain and darkness, all over The place. I thing it’s amazing how it makes you love terrible people. I love Emily, I cried for Emily, is she a good person? Absolutely not.
The same for Victoria. So many times I got emotional because of her and her pain. And yet she is a terrible person. Just Love it.
And I like that she got a happy ending. It’s not a fairytail where only heroes get happy ending. She is a bad person (even though I empatize with her a lot)She ended up happy. Fine by me. I love her so I’m happy she’s happy (EVEN THO I WANTED HER TO BE WITH DANIEL)
I’m overexplaining myself but I just love How The show makes a character that are so bad, They make Terrible things, they are ruthless, but they also have so much pain inside of them, and you kinda hate them, but you empatize with them. You love their fragile and good parts, but you love even more their wicked and twisty sides. And they’re so brilliant and smart that you also admire them so much.
The author took The theme of “morally gray characters” and made it in such an interesting and brilliant way. It’s just fantastic.
I think what’s cool is that Revenge doesn’t want to teach you about morals and ethics(opposits to like Once Upon a Time). The show wants to talk about pain and darkness
its so interesting hearing other opinions! I think Emily is a great character but I found her ending a bit over-the-top "happy ending" which feels out of place for someone as dark and twisted as Emily is, I kinda wanted it to have an ending that was a little more unique considering how unique Emily is as a character. Reading your comments though, I get what you mean! It's kind of cool for the anti-hero to "win" so we could look at it as a good thing!
@@SerenaSkybourne that’s why I wanted her with Daniel.
I mean, Yeah I shipped her more with him then with Jack (also because Jack... well...) but most of All because I love The idea that the final happy ending is messed up ad the rest. She lied and did terrible things to him and to his family. He shot her and she can’t have kids now because of it. At the end (after the scene you talk about of them talking to each other, for the first time knowing Who they have in front of their eyes) they develop again feelings and forgive each other. They forgive Terrible things that in real life should not be forgive (like you know... attemptet murder) but in the show it would’ve fit so well! Also it could a way for both of them to come to terms with their darkness and move in from Everything.
Even if this would’ve not happened, Daniel death is still the worst thing that happens, it’s maybe worse even then David being alive (well maybe). He could have given so much more and I would have loved to see what epilogue he would’ve Got. He decides to leave the Hamptons and live a peaceful life? He becomes a Conrad 2.0? He marries Emily and they live their twisted happy ending togheter 🥺 ?
Nah he dies in a stupid way
Also, with Charlotte again, if she was this revered love child that Victoria adored, why would she ever say to the therapist that she regretted having a second child? That whole thing with how Daniel was the obvs favourite but they tried to write it in how Victoria loved her so much because she was part of David? Its so.. Contradicting
Also, every time Charlotte is in danger, Victoria is either always in somewhere place to do her things or sleep with another men! And she's also never visiting Charlotte on rehab. Did Charlotte also figure it out that her mom was responsible to make Declan died in Season 2 and made her miscarriaged?
Because Charlotte reminded Victoria of her betrayal of David.
I think Emily really loved Daniel especially after he found out who she was, I was sad when he died because I thought they could in some messed up way have a future. Aiden is still definitely her soulmate tho😭
She married Daniel in real life
I don't think she loved him. She may have grown fond of him but I don't think it was love. That's just my opinion tho
@@rahbeeuh while i kinda agree, she did start to fall in love with him before he aligned himself with his father for that interview. If he would have come clean about the bombing and David, he wouldn’t have gotten “revenge” so heavily from her. This was an important plot point because before this she was having doubts about the revenge. Daniel’s “betrayal”, what she considered betrayal ultimately made her continue the plan even more and with more hate. You will notice this a few times including when Adrien died
@@yaranassar4190 I s'pose you make a good point. I still think she was fond of Daniel until the betrayal. I don't think it was ever love though. Maybe a softening bc she was guarded & calculating but that sting of betrayal put all that back into place.
I think Emily loved Daniel at one point but then just became disgusted with him by end of Season 1.
No way Emily could be the villain in a show where the Graysons exist. I will never be mad at Emily/Amanda for wanting to get revenge on the people who literally brainwashed her into hating her father. She did it to clear her father's name, and that kind of pain is hard to forget about. The Graysons needed to be taken down.
and they sterilised her without her consent..
Exactly.
Emily didn't get brainwash to hate her father. She's still love him. Everyone is always seeing her as "The terrorist daughter" most of the time and she got a lot of bad treatment from her childhood. It's just too bad when she learns that her father has been captivated by a mafia for so long and only come out when his name got clear and she has to feel the pain of losing her loved ones, Fake Amanda and Aiden, got tortured by The Graysons when she blackout, and got tortured since she was in Orphanage. She realized her father was a total coward man who was simping so much to his former boss' wife.
@@knorenknor3493 Her own fault telling Victoria she faked her pregnancy.
@@margarethmichelina5146 Michelle Banks brainwashed her on behalf of Victoria
I think there's no commentary videos on Revenge because the show was already over by the time social media commentary videos became super commonplace. They should make the spin off series that was hinted at in the show finale.
Correct me if I’m wrong but weren’t producers considering doing a spin off show with Nolan. And like him helping other people find revenge the way he helped Emily. I think that would have been interesting to see
They did but it was never green lot a shame I really liked Nolan
Nolan was the best character on revenge but I think a show with just him would be boring tbh
Also, in the finale, there's a young man asked for Nolan for help to clear his mom's name and he said Amanda Clarke sent him. Too bad ever since the show got cancelled for a long time and it almost a decade and Gabriel Mann (Nolan's actor) is 50 years old now, while Emily VanCamp is too busy in MCU as Sharon Carter and as Nick in The Resident, it won't happen.
Yes, it's the spin off we deserved. Him and Louise as "Revengers" would have been great
I always felt like her story with Daniel could be her most interesting one (romantically wise). They had a great chemistry imo (they are married in real life so yeah) and he also saw her for who she was. Plus I love the lovers to haters to lovers trope haha
They would have made more sense than her and Jack, that’s for sure
Same, i wonder if her and Daniel knew each other when younger
am I the only one who really liked Emily and Daniel in the first season? Like Emily developing genuine feelings for Daniel and being conflicted about the whole revenge thing would have been so interesting to explore. And it's hinted at in the first season that she actually does love Daniel to some degree and that just kind of vanished in later seasons. Like his entire personality just changed over night pretty much - like one minute he was trying to remove himself from his family and the next he was covering up the fact that they framed David Clarke. In my opinion, I think Daniel kind of broke Emily's heart when he went along with his father later on in season one, and they barely even talk about that? anyway. This show lost the plot in season 2. Like I liked Aiden but to me his love story with Emily felt kind of random? And with Jack he was just in love with some childhood version of her. Loved this video btw!
I loved Emily and Daniel. Chemistry was insane, clearly, as they are married in real life. I also loved Jackand thought Aiden was alright, so I was down for every romance all the time - but Daniel and her were something else, I guess because of the intrigue as to whether Emily was slipping and falling for him genuinely. I thinks she definitely loved him, but him siding with the Graysons was all she needed.
@@CharissaAlex i didn’t know they were married in real life!! No wonder I always low key rooted for them 😭
And he was even acting like Conrad after they got divorced and even mocking her in elevator in Season 4 when they got trapped together due to elevator's malfunction as "Sad Daddy's girl who wants revenge to his family"
I hate how when he took the bullet for her, he didn't even apologize for shooting her in their wedding.
I think one of the most despicable things Victoria did was leaving an open bottle of alcohol for Stevie Grayson, a 20 year sober recovering alcoholic. On my re-watch, I was like wow that is cold.
I love Emily as a character. I can't help but root for her, and I think it's because despite the despicable things that she does, she's a very understandable character. Like, she feels like a real person and her motives always feel real and her emotions feel valid. That's why I think that whenever she "loses control", we're okay with it. We see her trying to control her own life, when she's had control taken from her so many times, and we want her to succeed. She has a hard time trusting people because she couldn't trust anyone when she was smaller. People lied to her, treated her badly, backstabbed her. It feels like her character makes sense, and so, in her POV, we we feel the same things, the defensiveness, the desperation. Even though I know she did horrible things, I know why she did them, and that's why she's such a potent main character. We're used to seeing a plain main character so that we can judge for ourselves what's fair and good and what's wrong, but she's very complex, which is why the show is so interesting. Understanding her story makes us want her to be well. I feel like her trauma makes her very relatable, and she brings to life the fantasy of every person who's been through that sort of thing alive, whereas in real life, people who've been through trauma often feel meek and small and are afraid to be rude. She's the best morally ambiguous character out there, in my opinion.
shes a great character in that sense and you cant help but feel sorry for her. however, i think if the show wasnt set in her POV she'd be a lot more disturbing and the way she speaks to nolan for example would seem a lot more inexcusable
In the beginning of Season 4, you can see she looked empty inside even Nolan asked her, "Are you sure you want to move on like this?" and very concerned about her. She deserved a lot of therapy after that especially for the ending. As much as I don't like her end up with Jack, but you gotta admit that Jack has a big patience to wait for his childhood friend to move on and get away from her problems.
The show was at its peak when it was centered around Emily and Amanda and their switch, in my opinion.
A lot of people didn't like Amanda because she got in the way of Emily and Jack, but I liked her character and her relationship with Emily a lot. Their conflicting goals underscored by their loyalty (sometimes one-sided) was really interesting.
Also, fake Amanda had better relationship with Jack than the real Amanda. And Fake Amanda is a loyal friend and even tried so hard to defend Emily but Emily being a selfish bitch never appreciate her until her death which she regrets. Emily instead still hiding instead of clearing her real name just because Amanda was a stripper at the time. Emily is a terrible friend even she's always making Nolan on trouble every time and I hate how she never apologize to Nolan for the damage of what she's done.
Emily had a tendency to fall in love and care for those she's using. For example: Nolan - she used him as a link to her father and for his computer skills but she ended up loving him as a brother. Daniel - she used him as the link to slowly destroying the Grayson name and getting to Victoria but she ended up falling in love with him. Jack - she used him to ensure he was kept out of everything but was always an arms length away yet she fell in love with him. Amanda - she used her to swap identities, manipulating her to do so and yet Emily ends up loving her as a sister right before she dies. Aiden - she actually fell in love with him first but then continued to manipulate him and use him for her Revenge mission 😅
What I like about Fake Amanda is she was very loyal to Emily even though they had a rocky start in juvenile. She didn't mind to get her identity swap but too bad she made Amanda Clarke's name dirty for being a stripper as she went to the wrong way. She was even supported Emily to destroy the Graysons and honestly, she had better chemistry with Jack than Jack with real Amanda. Too bad, she never get a chance to be a mother.
Ironically, even though she was a stripper before, she at least genuinely fall in love with one man who is Jack and way better than Victoria who slept with many men to please her and even had 3 different children with 3 different men.
I loved Revenge, but I think that it was mostly because of the cast. Particulary Emily VanCamp, Madeleine Stone (goddess), and Gabriel Mann, but Margarita Levieva and Hiroyuki Sanada as well. All such charismatic and interesting actors. The tension was insane.
Now I have to re-watch! xD
Charlotte the sister she never knew she had...
What show are we watching again?
😂😂😂😂 good catch
Holy shit!
I honestly forgot about this.
Nolan was my favorite character, but that probably because he helped me realize I was bisexual lol. He played a big role in figuring out my sexuality.
This is honestly my favorite show. It’s the only shows that I’ve rewatched several times. Just a few notes: Emily *is* an anti-hero insofar she’s the protagonist but does not possess traditionally heroic qualities. VanCamp does a great job making Emily charismatic (which makes her sadistic tendencies more acceptable to the audience). In terms of her expressing empathy, I think facial expressions (particularly her eyes) shows when she’s softening w/ Jack or Season 1 Daniel. The writers also ensure to not have Emily *directly* cause someone’s death.
I really agree with you on the show’s treatment of Amanda. The writers went out of their way to frame her as a liability and I didn’t understand until mid-season 2 that Emily actually cared about her. But Amanda pursuing Jack at all - manipulating his memories of a childhood friend- is almost as toxic as Emily/Daniel season 1.
Next, I also understand why Emily ends up with Jack and not Aiden. To me, it’s the same exact reason why Katniss ends up with Peeta and not Gale. Emily and Aiden would be too similar (and thus would be trapped in trauma) while Jack actually brought out her selfless/soft side. Aiden always felt like Daniel’s replacement in the love triangle with Jack. But it honestly would’ve been more appropriate for her to end up alone.
Lastly, the show should have ended at season 3. It’s the best season after season 1 (the mom storyline in season 2 was underdeveloped), and it ends with Emily getting her revenge but very bitter and alone. David’s role in season 4 reminds a lot of Alison post-season 3 of PLL. While David’s character is more interesting, I’m very tired of the “character we thought was dead is actually alive” cliche.
this is so interesting! I do still feel like Jack is too good for Emily though, hes more grounded and less vindictive than she is 😓
@@SerenaSkybourne Definitely. While I shipped him and Emily on my first watch, him losing Declan and Amanda AND his bar should have been deal breakers.
@@crystalforetia5617 definitely. poor jack
I think Nolan is codependent because of what he went through with his dad. Also Emily was the only person that understands him and her father. He’s also insecure he has money but a lot of people at to use him for that which is why he’s kinda of a loner and even when he want friends people think he is weird or strange I really had a lot of empathy’s for his character. He did let Emily get away with a lot but he also had time where he put his foot down and told Emily when she went to far and was wrong which ended up in him ignoring her. Emily was also very hostile towards to him he understands why she behaves like that. Honestly he also wanted to protect the daughter of the only person who believed in his goals and dreams. So I think it was a mix of feeling responsable for her and wanting genuine relationships.
its a shame he kept forgiving her for stuff though and not calling her out when she was rude to him, he didnt deserve that
@@SerenaSkybourne totally agree but I think in his mind she was justified she was so focused on getting revenge that she real hurt the people that loved her and wanted to help her he really didn’t deserve the time where she was also aggressive with him. Also there where lots of time when he voiced his disagreements with her . I’m not condoning Emilys actions but I think Nolan understood that even if he tried to do anything she would still do it. Both characters have their flaws but I loved the complexity and flaws they had.
@@carla3693 thats true! It more annoyed me in the day-today ways shed snap at him or have no regard for his feelings
@@SerenaSkybourne Definitely I remember getting angry so many time for her treating him like that 😞 but she was so consumed with wanting revenge she really did not notice how much she was hurting other people sometimes and became numb to it she realized this I think in later seasons I remember the episode when she finally bought Graysons house that she tried to take revenge for someone else. She said she didn’t know who she was beyond her goal to destroy the Graysons don’t remember the exact episode. She talked to Nolan about it.
Couldn’t have said it better, that’s what’s so great about the show, every character has a proper story and is complex and Nolan is definitely the perfect example
In a way, Emily is kind of like A from PLL in the way she enacts her plans and messes with the lives of specific targets.
I've said something similar for a really long time. They are very similar shows just flipped. Which is probably why I like both so much 🤷🏻♀️
In my opinion, revenge is just more believable because most of the time we get to see how she pulled some of the stuff off vs how A was just magically able to do all sorts of stuff and bribe people left right and centre
@@IlkaWaffy I agree. I think PLL would've been better had they incorporated some semblance of reality where A was concerned.
They are also very similar in amazing beginnings and wtf kinda last season
Yes! Aiden and Emily were soulmates and I will die on this hill.
absolutely
I am so glad I found my people. Emily and Aiden were my life. I even wrote fanfic about them back in the day lmao. Never cared for her with Jack.
@@fleurgi I wish there was more FanFiction on them tbh. He deserved so much better, his death made me so angry.
Same! I cried like a baby when he died😭
The first season is still iconic!!!
its so cool
I feel the same! I could never find anyone here on UA-cam talking about it. I loved this show, except the last two seasons. I loved Emily and Daniel together.
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Idk if you ever watched Once Upon a Time, but that show CONSUMED my life throughout middle school, and I'd love to see one of these deep-dive type videos about it. Love your content!!
ONCE UPON A TIME WAS MY SHOW OH MY GOSH😭
OUAT is so good! Another pilot that I absolutely adore!
I don’t know how you think Emily isn’t likable. I find her to be a character with a lot of depth and fascinating layers that make her one of the most dynamic characters in a show! Great video as always!
I think she’s a well written character in that she’s so complex and driven. But the way she treated cuties like Nolan or toyed with Daniels feelings was too gross for me. Tysm for watching ♥️♥️
Emily is honestly one of the best strong female characters in TV show who is written very well. She is smart, manipulative and knows combat. And she's not always being a Mary Sue because she herself still has flaws.
I think the show lost it with the Initiative plotline, and went from Countess Of Montecristo to The Devil's Soap Opera.
I think the thing with Emily is while she’s lost a father the same way Jack had, Jack was grown... Jack had Declan and his friends, even Emily. When Emily lost her dad she was only a child, and every single person around her was against her and only looking out for themselves... You honestly can’t blame her for being cold to everyone around her, even those helping, for the first 2 seasons because she was so used to everyone having a secret vendetta her entire life. And even when she found out Charlotte was her sister she was amongst the Graysons, and still very much in their control.
Think of it like this: if someone locked a baby in a room for the first 18 years of their life, and the only people they ever came into contact with had cruel intentions , they’re not going to have the same social interactions and understand social queues the same way most people would. Emily never fully trusted Amanda until it was too late, and it was only in Amanda dying that she finally realised that Amanda would die for her.
It’s also worth noting that while she had a terrible childhood and could never trust anyone directly around her, she wasn’t necessarily a horrible person. She had donated millions to children’s hospitals and foster care so that kids wouldn’t have the same upbringing she did. There are good sides to her they just can’t be shown much by the writers because they can’t make Emily appear soft to the people around her. Even with Victoria, is she a bit of an arsehole? Absolutely, but she was made that way from childhood traumas, with a good side popping up every now and again.
Because of the abusement of her childhood, Emily grows up to be an emontionless human and she lacks of empathy. She's even changing her identity ilegally with real Emily Thorne or fake Amanda Clarke. Whenever she's on her Revenge mode, she's always look very excited and focus by manipulating many people with her charms. But, whenever she's on her daily basic day, she looks like a robot which gets switched off. Even in Season 4 opening in Memorial Day, Nolan noticed that she's acting off and even ask her personally, "What are you gonna do right now?" It's like she has no purpose on her life anymore! And then David's coming back makes her losing her mind because she feels betrays and even questioning her existency.
She refused to reveal her identity because of how people sees Amanda Clarke as "Terrorist's daughter" and she's afraid people will judge her like that. She's even always throwing Nolan and Jack under the bus because of her secrecy. Even responsible for making Amanda and Aiden death indirectly. She's showing a lot of sign of mental illness because of her abusement mentally. It would be better if in the end of Season 4, she gets locked up in the same Asylum where she locked Victoria in the end of Season 3 instead of happily ever after with Jack. So, after David dies for real, they lock her up as the punishment of going to revenge path.
I think Emily is just so emotionally stunted and blocked off that it's hard to apply basic human understanding here because most other people just wouldn't act the way she does
I'm still not over Aiden's death.
it was disturbing
@@SerenaSkybourne One of the most sinister moments of the series for sure... makes for excellent tv but omg so heartbreaking.
@@SerenaSkybourne I wonder if continuing the show was ever in question and so they had it set up that Emily was going to live "happily ever after" with Aiden, but then maybe it got renewed for more seasons and so they killed him off so her story would continue?
It’s probably the one that made me cry the most, the way Emily was just shaking him and hugging his dead body like damn
The actor who played aidan was hired to work on another show so he had to be killed off
I just never felt the connection with jack, he’s. A great guy and all but I never bought the whole “they’re meant to be together” you’re right, she met him one damn summer. When she was like 6 WTF lol for a second right before Daniel died I hoped they’d be together. Victoria would see that and she’d go crazy. And every weekend her punishment is to see her son happy with Amanda whiles she’s committed. That way Her hands (Amanda) would be clean (for the most part) and she gets her revenge.
Love that this chanel is talking about this old shows, revenge was so great and that plot in the end of the season 4...
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I never comment before watching but I’m just so excited because I absolutely adored Emily. Her thirst for revenge, her killer fashion, her cool-headedness, I thought she was absolutely gorgeous as well. I think the earlier seasons might be better but I loved this show regardless so I’ll have to say more after I watch 😅
love youuuu
I pretty much disagree with everyone in the comments and video lol. Emily did harm people in the process of getting revenge but it was established season 1 that she was not evil, but seeking justice for her father. That was solidified in the season 1 finale when she didn’t kill the white haired man. Season 3 and 4 was all about her trying to stop harming others (hence her relationship with Jack and all those scenes of her telling him how guilty she feels for Fauxmanda’s death despite not causing it) in the process of seeking justice. Victoria and Conrad died by their own hands, not Emily’s. The ending with her choosing peace and to live with Jack was foreshadowed in season 1 when she gave up her revenge plot to be with Jack.
I’m also surprised by the amount of Aiden and Emily shippers. Aiden was clearly a filler character who didn’t even exist in season 1 until they needed a plot line to extend the life of the show. The main love triangle was always Jack X Emily X Daniel with jack representing Emily’s redemption arc.
Yes structure wise it was disappointing how randomly Aiden was introduced and I liked that Jack was there from the start. I think realistically though her and Aiden made sense x
For me, it didn’t feel like he was introduced late but rather he was just a male version of Emily created to add filler into the show (same with the Initiative). The way he constantly forced his will on Emily (framing Jack for the murder of the priest, forcing her to give up her revenge when Emily wasn’t ready to) as opposed to Jack who made Emily genuinely want to give up her revenge for him (which made Aiden soo jealous) made him feel like he was always a roadblock in their relationship rather than a viable second option. To me, the viable second option was Daniel, and I feel like the Aiden relationship just took screen time away from the Emily x Daniel relationship which I would have rather seen.
Agree she wasn't straight up evil like Victoria and Conrad or Victoria's mom. I didn't like Aiden and Emily either.
I agree with you 💯
the fact tht Emily wasn't a "good girl" is why I liked this show. Why is it that women always have to be "secretly good" even if they are a clrearly shown to be this revengeful character? I love a villain in my stories. They're often so much more interesting and complex. I don't have to relate to enjoy them. And btw- unfortunatly you don't have to be a good person to get a happy ending in life. That's not how the world works...quite the opposite.
True
You can still get revenge on characters, but you don't have to drag innocent people in it.
Oh I didn't realize faux-Amanda got so much hate! I loved her and felt she was a tragic character, completely used by Emily but still 100% loyal to her. All she wanted was a family.
Yeah, fake Amanda is genuinely care to Emily but can't believe that Emily always throw her under the bus many times just because she's jealous to see her getting close to Jack. Honestly, both Emily and Amanda are messed up for not using the name "Amanda Clarke" nicely.
Fake Amanda was a stripper and real Amanda is faking her persona as Emily Thorne for so long, she's out of touch of reality.
I don't konw, i don't agree. Amanda caracter might seem sweets, but i really hated the way She insterted herself and took over Emilly's identity without her perimiton.Yeah She wanted the family, but the way She did that was too cunning to me. Loyalty? Please, She was being selfish at that point, plus She lied to Jack big Times. Fishy, i couldn't stand her
The thing i hated about Charlotte was that she was so quick to forgive anyone that did wrong to her but the ONE time she caught Emily in a lie (about Patrick) she decided to use that to derail Emily's and Daniel's entire relationship with Sarah and didn't apologize until she thought Emily was pregnant. Like, your mother lies to you ALL the time. Your father committed you and KILLED your baby daddy. Girl, get a grip.
I do think Emily is someone you're suppose to love and hate. You're suppose to love cause you'd do to revenge someone who hurted you in the past. How ever you hate that part of you. I think that's what the writers wanted amd as you watch the show you realize that Emily is the hero. Altough she hurts people and ruins their lifes, she's painted as someone who's fighting the bad guys. Everyone in the Hamptons feels like part of the Mafia and Emily is saving the world. That's what I remember from the show.
omg i was just thinking how there are no commentary videos on this show and how i wanted one, bc this show literally taught me english and this just appears in my recs? i love you!
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Revenge is the one show where the more duplicitous the character the more I loved them. Emily wasn’t perfect - but her motivation was always clear. I think every person could potentially be a casualty if they went against the mission, and as crazy as it is, I kinda respect that. Amanda betrayed Emily by further inserting herself into the plot. I couldn’t wait til she was killed off. She was a huge distraction and not very smart. I agree with always wanting Emily to protect Charlotte more than she did. I think she’s the only character (and maybe Nolan) that deserved better from Emily.
Most of the fans didn't like David Clarke actually after he came back. I mean bcoz of his stupid decisions, emily have gone through a lot. But Victoria Grayson is amazing, her character development is so intriguing. I mean she always craved for love and trust ,but also have many flaws, cunning, selfish. The collateral damage was mostly done to poor Charlotte.
I dont agree with you regarding Charlotte. Just because you share blood doesnt make you family. Emily just wasn't into charlotte
but Emily didn't even try to get to know her or see if maybe she was into Charlotte🤣 Ididn't
I honestly gave up on Revenge when they killed off Aiden for the solo reason he was a better match to Emily than Jack ):
Nope Jack knew the real Amanda Clarke
@@RobertK1993 that's the thing, she wasn't the Amanda Clarke he knew
The villain is Conrad and Victoria Grayson. Those people took her childhood and innocence away from her. All those people got their karma for funding TERRORISM and blaming it on an innocent man. He didn't get to see his daughter grow up. His whole reputation was destroyed in front of the world. I can't get with people painting Emily as a villain when she was the victim in the first place. They did this to a little girl.
Of course Emily is a victim! What happened to her dad is awful and tragic, and to be honest since its the point of the show, her going on a revenge plot is a cool and unique idea. What I don't like is the way she spoke to Amanda and Nolan often very disrespectfully when they didnt deserve it.
@@SerenaSkybourne That happened when Amanda was being reckless. I love Amanda but she wasn't always being careful. She was in over her head when it came to the graysons. I remember Nolan and Emily getting into when Nolan didn't delete the evidence of all their plans and didn't tell her he had this. I don't think she just got on them for no reason. One wrong move and her whole cover is blown. She genuinely cared about them. They were only family she had left.
@@caribbeanadams3345 that’s what I thought too until I rewatched the show. Even in scenes where Amanda isn’t being reckless, and Nolan is just having a normal conversation with Emily, she’ll be cold, snappy, ungrateful and rude for no reason. It was a little annoying to watch after a while sadly
The Graysons are responsible to make Emily / Amanda becomes cold hearted person in the first place. Even Nolan and Jack are worried about her in beginning of Season 4 when her revenge agenda is over, she becomes a weird person who's still living with fake name and not being herself. And I hate how she didn't even tell that Victoria killed Aiden in public and put his body on her house. It would be better if the ending she got locked up in asylum with straight jacket and looking empty as her mental health is getting worse and she's becoming like a robot.
@@SerenaSkybourne i agree with the fact that Emilly was terrible to Nolan for no good reason. He tried to help her from day one and She was too annoyed with him even after She saw She needed and used his help every Time. What i don't agree îs that You also mention Amanda here - sorry, but She deserved all that behaviour from Emilly. Maybe not in the beggining, when She was treating her as a servant more than a firend, instead of asking nicely She was barking orders. I was surpised because i thought Emily should have been smarter than that. But then Amanda did the msot cunning thing and stole Emilly's life and identity. Even her ex cursh Jack, which by the way She lied to big Time, the poor guy fell inlove with her assuming She was someone else. She didn't even asked perimiton to Emily, She just decide out of the blue to take up her identity (even tho She was already known as Karen) and She did that onowing Jakc will fall deeper for her ( he was attracted to her, but when he fund She îs Amanda, really fell all the way for her). And You call her sweet after all this???? girl, wake up. Emilly has alot of flaws (especially heing rude to the people that help her for no reason) but Amanda?? Amanda did her dirty when She assumed her identity infront of Jack. She betrayed her friend and stole everything for her because poor her She only wanted a family și that justified her actions ?! She did all that in a very cunning way, and i am glad Emily staied composes and used her, She deserved it. She got what She deserved in my oppinon. Nolan îs the only one who deserved better treatment. All he did was help in big qays and getting shit about it, he îs the real victime, not Amanda. Amanda îs far from being a vitim, She was Shameless the way She lied and stole that life but hey îs ok because She wanted to have a home. 🙄 Right. Please. She was better off running to France, why didn't She start a family there? She just HAD to take over her "firend" identy, life and ex boyfriend, didn't She?? She was a greedy bitch in my oppinon and betrayed her firend for her owb alwfish reasons, She deserved the hate
i watched this so young i didnt understand how bad Emily was and thought she was so in the right that I'm betting now this is why i root for villains all the time lol
lol honestly, as cool a character as she is, and how sorry we feel for her, the stuff she does is messed up
I literally rewatched the series b/c of this video and you’re absolutely right! I thought if Emily the same exact way and though she was so cool bit rewatching showed how much of a cold person she was. It really does show how our minds genuinely aren’t fully developed until a later age.
You: Talking about everything wrong with Revenge
Me: -gets out my DVDs- let's start rewatching it again and ignore the "problems" because it's still my favorite show of all time-
But I do agree to what you're saying, but I love Emily being "evil" and never really ending up being the "good" one. I'm sick of those good vs evil shows, I enjoyed this way more.
its cool to follow a protagonist whos not a goody two shoes for once, thats for sure
I disagree that emily doesn't have a soft spot for charlotte, she kept it inside because she was consumed by her mission and doing anything to reveal herself would be failure in her eyes
Well the reason Victoria didn't want to confess anything after seeing that fake Charlotte kidnapping video was that at that time she was fairly certain that Emily really was Amanda Clarke and had a feeling Emily was behind the kidnapping. She knew nothing was going to happen to Charlotte so she didn't want to admit her role in the David Clarke thing because it would have been pointless.
Yeah she wasn't falling for Emily Thorne bluffing anymore and fakeness.
Also, Victoria never care so much to Charlotte. Every time Charlotte is in danger, she's always in somewhere place or even having an affair with different men! She's always using Charlotte as her puppet most of the time. She's way priotizing Daniel since Daniel was born on a rich family and remember that Victoria stole Conrad from Stevie, Conrad's first wife and also Jack's mother as she herself is a selfish manipulative golddigger whore.
And Charlotte is the daughter of David Clarke, the man once she loved but she betrayed him because of how Conrad threaten her to be killed and also because of selfishness. The worst part is when Charlotte got kidnapped by a member of the gang, her parents (David and Victoria) were on date and they're not even visitting Charlotte on rehab at once to see what's she doing.
Also, both Charlotte and Patrick (her firstborn son who is the product of rape by her own father whom she abandoned since she was a baby because she wanted to go to college and then he appeared at Season 3) didn't attend her fake funeral. How irony that her legitimate son, Daniel died while her 2 "bastard" children left her for good. Also, Daniel ranted to Victoria last time for going too far to Emily, for making her suffer again by separating her again with David.
I felt like Emily was a sociopath and that's why she couldn't connect with anyone properly.
Her rough upbringing can be a recipe for sociopathy
After many terrible childhood that she has been through, she becomes an emotionless human. Even in the beginning of Season 4, Nolan is concern of what will she do after her revenge is over as she's not being herself anymore. Also, carrying the name Emily Thorne for so long make her feel out of touch of reality. It's like Emily Thorne is her split personality while Amanda Clarke died a long time ago. Technically, she should've been in prison for identity theft in the end but I don't think it will be count since both Amanda and Emily (either real or fake one) agreed to exchange their identity. But both of them make the name Amanda Clarke dirty. Fake Amanda a.k.a real Emily became a stripper while real Amanda is pretending as somebody else for so long.
The first season of Revenge, is one of the most addiction seasons of all time
Omg, thank you for mentioning voice narration. It was so bad and brought absolutely nothing to the table. It was something like “sometimes you afraid to lose someone you trust... and then you do”. So deep.
Also I do not understand in what universe this is set. Why regular people always kill someone like it’s nothing. Charlotte trying to kill Emily completely ruined her character for me. And in the end everyone was mad at the lie that Daniel attacked Emily and she killed him. They were like “but he was a good man”. He actually shot her before... and didn’t suffer any consequences.
Honestly kept watching just for Nolan. Can’t understand why the best character ended up alone
I think you don’t give Jack Porter enough credit. (I’ll use the girls original names to avoid confusion) Jack fell in love with Amanda all over again while she was going by Emily. There were several times he expressed his love for her before he knew that she was Amanda. When Emily came into the picture as Amanda she used her knowledge of jacks emotions for little Amanda to manipulate him, and like most people he used that trauma she allegedly went through as Amanda to excuse a lot of her bad behavior to a point. She also had Amanda’s help with manipulating Jack by giving her knowledge about their childhood (And yes he was a little blinded by the childhood love he had for Amanda) but after Emily took off he literally gave up on her and forgot about her. He then began to actually pursue Amanda as Emily so much so that she was going to give up on her revenge and be with him. But just as Amanda and Jack were about to be together Emily showed up pregnant with jacks baby. Jack was obviously not happy about this and wanted to be with Amanda but stayed with Emily out of duty and obligation to their child. He did somewhat come to terms with it just before Emily died. And when Amanda told Jack everything about the switch he got angry. He then helped her for a while but their romantic relationship wasn’t happening. He at that point tried to move on from all the revenge stuff by being with Margo until her magazine got into bed with the Greysons. Then after she took it too far with the kidnapping of Charlotte he left her and ditched the Hamptons for a long time. (Until he was forced back) so yeah it’s a little unfair to say he just automatically loved anyone who says they are Amanda. He loved Amanda even before he knew she was Amanda, and he loved Emily because Emily manipulated him to.
I always thought he had genuine feelings for Amanda and cared about her, definitely, I just thought it was weird how much he held onto his ‘childhood friend he barely knew’ memory
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@@SerenaSkybourne thank you so much for replying! I do think he would have been way harder for Emily to manipulate if he hadn’t held on the the fuzzy memory of Amanda so much. (Which would have prevented him from dealing with getting Emily pregnant and probably got him to be with the real Amanda a lot sooner. But that would certainly have ended the series a lot faster.)
@@leannkennett905 agreed ❤
You gotta give him credits that he's never giving up to Amanda either real or fake person, he only loves Amanda Clarke. But, I don't understand how did he become a cop on earliest Season 4 even though he is a bar owner, how did he even qualify about it? As a result, his family bar got burnt by Charlotte to trap Emily because he didn't protect it!
AHHHH I'm so happy to finally see a reaction/commentary video on this show !! it was also a huge part of my teenage years as well
I'm coincidentally in the middle of my 3rd or 4th rewatch of it too LOL
I’m so glad you liked the video 🥰
And now I wanna rewatch this
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Aah thank you so much for this. I watched Revenge for the first time a year ago and I was so frustrated that I could barely find recent content about it, despite being such an entertaining and essay-worthy show! There's so much to hate and it's a whole mess.
I honestly feel like if you did a supernatural series people would love it. Not just saying that because I'm a fan lol
I feel like you would LOVE Dynasty starring Liz Gillies
I remember getting chills when Emily found Aiden sitting in front of the fireplace and not responding to her then realising he was dead 😭
Commenting so the algorithm doesn’t kill u but i need to watch this show first
youre awesome!
Can we get a solo video how they failed Victoria Grayson? If this is based off the Count of Monte Cristo shouldn’t she have survived :(
her ending was horrible and honestly she didnt deserve it....she should have been punished for her actions, but she showed so much potential for redemption that it was just a shame to have the literal love of her life kill her in cold blood like that
Yees, the worst ending ever. Zero satisfaction.
Nope Victoria was nasty bitch
I would love to see an in depth video like this from you about characters from The Vampire Diaries, and specifically the core 5 (elena, bonnie, caroline, stefan, damon). I agree with every point you make usually so I'd be really interested to see where you stand with the characters
I would absolutely love you commenting on teen wolf, the show had so many ups and downs in my opinion that I think you would ride an absolute roller coaster
I think the big difference between Emily and the Graysons is that she does bad things for good reasons. Meanwhile, they were just plain old malicious lol
you said it's weird that jack calls emily "amanda" at the of the show. that's because emily went back to her name "amanda". she is now amanda. she literally married jack under that name.
I am SO Happy you're talking this show. I Loved your PLL Videos and was so sad, Nobody has ever done Revenge.
i enjoyed your take on the show a lot but i wanted to explain a few points that you might have missed.
first of all, jack called her amanda in the end because she took on her real name (amanda clarke) again after her father came back. the only one who was still calling her “emily” or “ems” was nolan because the time they spent together while emily was fulfilling her revenge meant a lot to him. he felt appreciated and by calling her that he is kind of reminiscing about that time.
second, amanda did not get her happy ending just like that. she lost a lot of people she loved in the process. in the beginning of the series there was this quote: “when you begin a journey of revenge, start by digging two graves: one for your enemy and one for yourself.” as we all know, amanda did not die in the end or got punished for killing victoria; because she didn’t. amanda was on the verge of killing victoria but her father appeared and he shot victoria. he did this to prevent his daughter from going to jail for life. david already knew he had cancer and would die anyways. so when amanda said in the end that the love of her father for her prevented her from losing her life, she meant the fact that her father was the one who killed victoria for her.
i thought that the series was very good and although i wasn’t a fan of them bringing david back to life, the way they did it was okay.
also, i never really saw amanda as the bad guy. her motives were very understandable and yes, she did do horrible things but it was very clear that she was traumatized and felt like there was nothing to hold onto except for her plan. and when she realized that charlotte was her sister it was already too late for her to just pull out of her plan. she became obsessed with it. but in the end, especially through her father she was able to let go of emily thorne and was able to finally embrace her true self again: amanda clarke.
In the series finale Nolan was calling her "Ams" instead of "Ems" so they were all recognizing her by the name Amanda by the end
Aiden's death, although very sad and heartbreaking, was poetic. He was the ONE for Emily. It reflected the theme of the first season.( Before embarking on a journey of revenge, dig two graves). Bringing back David was such a BAD BAD writing mistake. So bad that I can't even recommend my favorite show to other people.
Edit: I also freaking LOVE Conrad.
I love Revenge and I love Emily. I was crying so much, especially when Aiden died. I am still not over his death. And then her father return was emotional and it was so unfair that he had to die
I hope they create at some point this Nolan spinoff, bc I remember loving him and I relating to him a lot and he was just such a fun character
Btw, Aiden and Emily were way better than Jack and Emily. And Aiden was so great and Aiden's death traumatized my twelve years self so much.
Finally someone did reactions to this amazing show.
omg just like u said in the beginning this show was such a huge part of my teenage years i used to be obsessed with it … tbh now i can’t rly remember how far i got i definitely didn’t finish it for various reasons mainly bc it stopped airing where i live but what i saw … truly iconic
Thank you for the video 🥰
It’s so funny you felt there was no chemistry with Daniel and Emily, I always thought vice versa and wasn’t surprised to find out the actors were actually together.
I hear you with Amanda but I really think her series entry was crazy and if I were Emily I’d try to stay away from her - she comes after she murders someone for Emily. Now, this is too much love for me 😅 I grew into liking her, though, and her death was one of the saddest on this show.
yes initially i get why she comes across as threatening, but after a few episodes its clear that she rly does just want a friend and love.
I'll just tell you something I noticed as someone who liked to study villain dynamic.
If we look at Emily as someone who is not supposed to care about her friends and family (excluding her father), her moments when she does appear heartwarming, like the hug scene with Charlotte, or her calling Nolan her friend, or showing some vulnerability with Jack, or showing real care for Daniel etc. But if we go with the assumptions she already cares, than her moments of mistreatment really stand out. The truth is Emily is genuinely a terrible friend.
She is the kind of friend who expect you to drop everything for her and even if you do she acts annoyed if you are having second thoughts or not doing it fast enough. And while she never says the line "you'll do it if you love me", she does try to pull Nolan back in by implying he doesn't love her FATHER enough ("I thought you loved my father"). (I think this was 1x07) And there's a scene and this might actually be on accident where she says she knows how much his company means to him and she sounds so disingenious and toxic, like she doesn't mean it in the slightest.
Jack even calls her out on this "You use everyone who cares about you, you took everything from me, even this goodbye". Also an interesting detail is little Amanda Clarke. She is supposed to be an innocent, carefree little girl. It's supposed to be believable that fake Amanda would be this girl. But later Jack and Emily have this scene where they talk about her wishes and who little Emily/Amanda never told him her wish as she was afraid of letting people in. Which goes against the whole narrative that her childhood made Emily the way she is, if even the little girl version has this issue.
Honestly, as someone who has frequent nightmares about past traumatic events, Emily having nightmares about Victoria in the last scene, doesn't seem like a fairytale ending
Have i ever heard of this show? No, but am i gonna watch u talk about it for 49 minutes? Yes, yes i am
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Oh you must watch, it is great!
I loved loved LOVED Revenge and I have no one to talk about it with, so I’m stoked that you’re adding it to your video analyses!
Glad to see so many different opinions in the comments section because it's a very interesting show with a lot of complex characters. I really love season 1, it's definitely one of my favorite shows and I keep re-watching the first season, but the rest of the seasons just aren't it for me. I think in season 2 the characters slowly started to loose what was interesting about them. For example, Victoria was my favorite villain in season 1, she is obviously a terrible person but we see that she really loved David Clarke and betraying him is something that still haunts her. It was very interesting to watch the main villain of the show kind of redeem herself in the first season finale. Then in season 2 Victoria just forgets about her plan to clear David's name and make Conrad pay for what he's done. She becomes a cliche bad character.
Aiden was an unnecessary character imo since it was obvious that Emily and Jack were going to be together in the end. I get that the whole childhood friends storyline might not be realistic but it made the show more emotional (for example the scene in 1x21, where Sammy dies but brings Emily and Jack back together, was very touching).
I wish it had a better ending but Revenge is a very special show for sure.
44:27 I think the white-haired man already suspected her true identity and also Nolan's life was in danger so Emily had to be very direct. And the reason why Emily left him there after couldn't killing him was because she thought her father's name was about to be cleared and the white-haired man wouldn't have time for anything other than escaping somewhere abroad.
You don’t understand how much I loved this show and how much I loved this review!! Thanks for the awesome vide, they’re no reviews on revenge and I loved your input!!
thankyou gorg 😍😍
I am so excited I love this you just instantly got a follower just for this.
Tysm gorg ♥️
I've watched all your videos even though I never got past season one of PLL, I'm so happy to see you branch out into a show I was obsessed with as a kid haha
omg thanks boo
I love this show so much that I got the infinity tattoo
Who's your favourite Revenge character? 🧐
other than emily, has to be nolan!
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Aiden and Nolan!
Emily and Nolan team work I love . Don't like that Daniel Jack bro had to die. I think her coldness towards people cause she was trained to be that way.. But Jack and her dad loved the way she was .. Hate how she treated Charlotte. and Amanda Victoria not so much cause she shouldn't had been with Emily dad.
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Degrassi?? Seems like a massive undertaking lol. You are my most anticipated upload atm!
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I just hate how Emily uses innocent people get what she wants. She uses Daniel not to mention she cheats on him with Aiden. Then she acts like this poor innocent wife that is being cheated on when Daniel gets together with Sara. The worst part is that she doesn’t even love Daniel, she was just using him to get what she wanted.While Daniel love for her was pure and he even wanted to run away with Emily. Daniel may have been a jerk to Emily during season 3, but his actions are completely justified. She tortures and kidnaps Charlotte in season 3 episode 21 plus when Aidan and Jack tried to stop her, she doesn’t care that Charlotte is in pain she just says that charlotte will get over it. If she only gets revenge on the people that destroyed her father, that’s fine. But what angers me so much is that Emily manages to get innocent people hurt or even dead. Not to mention she uses innocent people to gain what she wants. A lot of characters in the show have told her to stop but she still continues on her revenge even when it becomes to extreme. Emily may have experienced hurt from what the Greysons and the other people that have hurt her but she is far from being innocent.
And here I am rewatching Revenge after seeing this Video :D
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Also I don't think Ashley was dating Conrad she just impulsively sleeps with him when Victoria fires her which was more of an indication of how she's like Tyler in the sense that she'd sleep with whoever would help her get ahead but she genuinely loved Daniel
Someone on reddit said Ashley got the boot because the new showrunner thought she was boring which I disagree with because margaux is as interesting as spicy white bread
*chuckles at "spicy white bread"*
Happy to be here, I’ve never seen a commentary video about this show and it was also a big part of my high school days. I regret to say I even wrote fanfic 🤦🏾♀️
i just finished a binge rewatch and came back to this vid to vent. 1. Emily and Jack have no chemistry by the finale!?!? 2. Nolan is a bi icon 3. Conrad Grayson's caricature of a rich white businessman is CAMP i loved it 4. David Clarke not recognizing his daughter/their anti-climatic weird reunion exacerbated my daddy issues 5. this may be some sort of plot device as the IRL Hamptons is 86% white ppl, but there were barely any POC ever lol 6. i love ur vids!!!
I just finished this show and it bugged me so hard that Daniel didn't get a mention in Jack and Emily's wedding speech ... Daniel quite literally gave his life for Emily they couldn't say the two syllables it would have taken to mention him? Especially in front of his sister Charlotte?
I agree
finally, someone talking about this show
So glad to watch a review for revenge and can't wait for more content! What I liked about Revenge is that it was an unapologetic revenge fantasy. I really wish Emily ended up with Daniel. What killed Revenge for me is bringing David back. I'm also glad that they didn't focus too much on that shady operation, the initiative. IMO that's what killed Scandal, the focus on B613.
I was SO into this show, and have always wanted someone to do a review of it! I clicked the second I saw this! I am so excited to see what you think!
Omgggg thankyou
I LOVED THIS SHOW ❤❤❤❤ I am so happy you reviewed it. It was a big part of my young adult life. I love the setting, acting, mood, fashion, and Emily’s nail polish 😅