With the Lloydz "Street Performance" cams, Lloydz billet intake manifold, Lloydz Sawicki 2:1 exhaust, and the Lloydz tune installed at Sturgis... my Challenger made 140hp/130trq on the dyno.
So? All this youtube pros talking crap about push rod engines. Ford made 650hp pushrod V8's from factory back in the 60s. Stop acting like pushrod engines cant make power.🤦♂️
The biggest detriment to H-D is not pushrods its air-cooled versus liquid cooled. Liquid cooling is more consistent with temperature control so you can increase compression and rpm. HP is a function of rpm and tq. Also the EPA is harder on the air cooled bikes so they run leaner and have the breathers route oil into the intake rather than atmosphere.
Can't beat a liquid cooled motor 😉. Still boogles the mind Harley hasn't come out with a liquid cooled cruiser. Looked up the specs on comparable motors and the Liquid cooled motors have a 1/3 the displacement but almost 40% the horse power. I have a 107ci and the Indian 63ci has better numbers in HP and Torque 🤦🏾.
You are correct. When the rev max engine came out I thought Harley would put it in the touring models. But like in Harley fashion same BS and call it new! Haha thanks for commenting
@neogeogt Hey lets compare apples and oranges ok? The apple is a v twin and weighs over 800 while the orange is a 6 straight six and weighs 600 Who is tastier? dumb@$$
Definitely not a better bike lol. Faster from the factory, but their quality control is far lacking compared to the Harley. I’ve ridden both and can clearly tell the difference between a Polaris brand and a Harley.
@theautobarn5906 say what you want getting a Big Bike like that up to 140 takes some skill! But like I said Decent But not "fast" my gixxer in 3 gear would hit 140 easy top speed I hit 194 than the light started to Blink and I let off! Neater the Indian or my Harley could compete! But I'm not riding my Gixxer across the country both Bikes have a place but in No way is either Cruser "Fast"
@@EdwardSaeteurn So it takes HD 135ci to beat Indian's 108ci... got it. Can't wait to get my Lloydz custom cams, CNC'ed intake manifold, and dyno tune. Next year I'll go all out with the 112ci big bore kit and some head work... should be good for over 160hp at the tire.
Love those Indian motorcycles❣️
They just keep getting better and better👍
With the Lloydz "Street Performance" cams, Lloydz billet intake manifold, Lloydz Sawicki 2:1 exhaust, and the Lloydz tune installed at Sturgis... my Challenger made 140hp/130trq on the dyno.
Nice gains…
There's a Scout bobber that runs 10s. 120hp to the wheels.
Love them or hate them the Indian rolls out
Very true
FACTS💥
Them Indians are no joke 🤙
Definitely not! You get more bang for buck with Indians..
Nice to actually real-life content. Some will call this reality! ✌️
I love my Harley but that Indian in stock form smokes most Harley’s 😂
even better with loyydz tune🤘
Dyno jet tune......
Can confirm!
Indians HAD to be fast...
Out of the box the power plus engine is faster then any stage two Harley
Lol
Yup they are💥
👍🏼👍🏼
simply just get a Triumph Rocket 3
@@motorcyclemichael2182 Truth…
Lol…..good luck with that, Indians are faster stock vs stock…..HD still using push rods for crying out loud
I know tell me about it… lol
Even most Indians use the pushrod set up in their Thunderstroke engines, the result: 171Nm of torque @3000rpm.
There's a reason for that, Sparky.
So? All this youtube pros talking crap about push rod engines. Ford made 650hp pushrod V8's from factory back in the 60s. Stop acting like pushrod engines cant make power.🤦♂️
The biggest detriment to H-D is not pushrods its air-cooled versus liquid cooled. Liquid cooling is more consistent with temperature control so you can increase compression and rpm. HP is a function of rpm and tq. Also the EPA is harder on the air cooled bikes so they run leaner and have the breathers route oil into the intake rather than atmosphere.
What’s that first Indian he was showing you? A challenger?
👍🏼
Can't beat a liquid cooled motor 😉. Still boogles the mind Harley hasn't come out with a liquid cooled cruiser. Looked up the specs on comparable motors and the Liquid cooled motors have a 1/3 the displacement but almost 40% the horse power. I have a 107ci and the Indian 63ci has better numbers in HP and Torque 🤦🏾.
You are correct. When the rev max engine came out I thought Harley would put it in the touring models. But like in Harley fashion same BS and call it new! Haha thanks for commenting
Get it
I was trying to lol
The goldwing is like a tesla and you know 0 to 60 in a telsa ?
If you guys think the indian is fast, should try a k1600b.
Yup I know that first hand my buddy has one… haha it’s not even fair
Haha true that i have a Chieftain and its by far the slowest bike ive ever owned.
I have. It runs good but only after about 7000 rpm. Below it seemed gutless
@neogeogt
Hey lets compare apples and oranges ok?
The apple is a v twin and weighs over 800
while the orange is a 6 straight six and weighs 600
Who is tastier?
dumb@$$
V-Twins can be turbocharged to handle 300-400hp, try that on a BMW motor and you’re blowing it off
I know, I own one ! Haha
Haha
@@HudsonMoto My Pursuit is being built and I can’t wait to rip it .
@@SSgtBlueUSMC0369 Enjoy it! No matter what you ride it’s always great to be on twos! Thanks for watching
And it is a better Bike! The first American bike the FIRST AMERICAN V-TWIN
I can’t agree more… at this point you are just paying for the Harley name… Indian gives you the best bang for buck! Thanks for watching
Definitely not a better bike lol. Faster from the factory, but their quality control is far lacking compared to the Harley. I’ve ridden both and can clearly tell the difference between a Polaris brand and a Harley.
@@Pigwatch415Nah Indian is better bro.
You must have a dealer installed 131” not aftermarket! Aftermarket 131” 150/150+ all day
I only have a stage 2… S&S 475 cam my friend has the 131.
131 pistons are super small. It's unreliable poor engineering.
Not gonna catch that indian! Lol
Haha I tried! Thanks for watching
My 2020 SGS 114 has beat a few of them? And its not fast. Now on my gixxer I'll give you a head start and it would still have no chance
I guarantee you you’re not running a stock 114.
My 114 isn’t stock it’s a stage 2
Still not fast! It's decent it's got power but I wouldn't call it fast
Most likely they didn’t know how to ride..
@theautobarn5906 say what you want getting a Big Bike like that up to 140 takes some skill! But like I said Decent But not "fast" my gixxer in 3 gear would hit 140 easy top speed I hit 194 than the light started to Blink and I let off! Neater the Indian or my Harley could compete! But I'm not riding my Gixxer across the country both Bikes have a place but in No way is either Cruser "Fast"
That’s some really slow RPM gains for definitely juicing it.
Waaaaaaa you mad , his rpms were at 4500 to 5000
@@lawrencemacdonald1358 Your mom's mad because she had you.
No, u just slow, haha
Yeah I know Im slow haha
@@HudsonMoto harley would own the market if they made 135 standard. It enough power without being sportbikie
@@EdwardSaeteurn So it takes HD 135ci to beat Indian's 108ci... got it. Can't wait to get my Lloydz custom cams, CNC'ed intake manifold, and dyno tune. Next year I'll go all out with the 112ci big bore kit and some head work... should be good for over 160hp at the tire.
@@UnrulyRiderIndian is the best.
131 is unreliable. Piston is short, knew a buddy who's motor blew at 10k miles.