Open Bar #93 - Stellar Blade Controversy, 40K Series In Trouble, Mufasa Trailer Savaged
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- Опубліковано 4 тра 2024
- Its been a week of controversies as the battle for videogames and wargames rages on, spilling over into rumours that Henry Cavill is threatening to quit the Warhammer 40k series on Amazon. And, predictably, Marvel have decided to blame their recent failures on the usual target - men. Join me, Sargon of Akkad, Grummz and Tyrone Magnus as we discuss it all.
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They think weakness and ugliness are virtues, once you realize this, everything makes sense.
It's almost like they're evil. Once you realize this, everything makes sense.
Welcome to the woke matriarchy
This is their version of the vow of poverty.
And also, they hate male heterosexuality - the only sexual orientation that is taboo in the 21st century.
And also, they hate male heterosexuality - the only orientation that is taboo in the 21st century.
The main thing everyone seems to be overlooking in the recent gaming controversies (be it Stellar Blade or Helldivers 2), is the power Sony wields as a publisher. Stellar Blade can be censored because Sony has the influence over the title as its publisher, a kind of influence they could not wield over Baldur's Gate 3 (which was self-published by Larian). They can demand that Helldivers 2 require a PSN account in a way they could not with other live service games that are not published by Sony.
Baldur's Gate 3 also kisses the ring, so to speak, so it gets a pass.
What about Last of Us Part 2?
@@tjjordan4207 Because game journalists hate beautiful women of ASIA and Sony does not listen to gamers but game journalist who are activists that don't have experience with gaming. If Eve was an ugly woman, SONY wouldn't have censored her outfits
Well this is why the moding and "bedroom games" are the future... patreons paid.. and get what they paid for... period...... just like with music now.... or here Drinker with his up coming movie........... look.. this game remake »» ua-cam.com/video/F3rmmiwkCE0/v-deo.html .. made by fans.. still in development... have almost twice much sales already ... that the new official release title made by VALVE Corporation in 2020....
@@Ramdileo_sysshut up bot
One of the few times mauler isn’t in and of course they discuss his birth year, which includes one of his favorite movies.
What movie is that?
@@BananaMana69Breakdance 2:Electric Boogaloo
@@BananaMana69Jurassic park
@@chernobog9Clever girl.
Right! I’d also have loved to here if mauler had an opinion on last action hero. He seems like a pretty big fan of Charles Dance and that film has one of his best performances!
This stream really needed a camera set-up on a MauLer plushie, just lying on its side and quietly pondering everything like a wise old Critical Doggo
this is MauLers true final Form! joke aside sadly that he didnt join the stream
Re: Writers being constrained by the subversion: In 1984, the first man being depicted being dragged to Room 101 was sent to Miniluv because he was tasked with changing a poem to exclude "God" in a line, but it was impossible to make the line both make sense and keep meter without the word.
On the topic of escapism....
That perhaps is why people are so ready with the charge of ‘escape’. I never fully understood it till my friend Professor Tolkien asked me the very simple question, ‘What class of men would you expect to be most preoccupied with, and most hostile to, the idea of escape?’ and gave the obvious answer: jailers. The charge of Fascism is, to be sure, mere mud-flinging. Fascists, as well as Communists, are jailers; both would assure us that the proper study of prisoners is prison. But there is perhaps this truth behind it: that those who brood much on the remote past or future, or stare long at the night sky, are less likely than others to be ardent or orthodox partisans.
C.S.Lewis
Lewis quoted that specifically for what's going on now. Perfect for just our little notch in the timeline.
That Lara was modeled to appease """the new women""" you know the kind that is breaking records in women sports.
"I'm the strongest woman!"
South Park
The conversation about men and women’s bodies in games always makes me think of Gears of War trilogy. Marcus and most of the men have much more muscle than is possible in real life and Anya and the other women were fit and attractive. The original trilogy had it right.
Tyrone is a great guest. Has some great, fresh points to make. Definitely should be a regular 👍🏼
He is always very chill and affable. Seems good to have a beer with
I wish he'd get a proper mic already 😅
I don't love his reaction type content all too much (just not the content i generally enjoy), but i love seeing him in these type of environments, wish he'd be on more.
when it comes to 40k getting Arch on could be interesting
Yeah he's like OG. Been blacklisted so bad no one can even mention his name, like some sort of superstition that if they soeak his name he'll appear as a demon. But instead of tempting you to sin, he tells you the lies and horror of Games Workshop. Him and Yellow flash had a good talk.
No MauLer on Open Bar 93 seems almost criminal
Fallout ruined their friendship.
It’s a tough road, having to set people straight on a bad TV show.
Unfortunately, too many are coming out that require him to do so.
Mauler is overrated and would prefer he wasn’t a permanent cohost anyway.
@@lazul6611 lol Drinker is overrated.
God Of War Ragnarok was terrible
Normies: "It doesn't make sense"
James Lindsay: "It makes complete sense"
Well, when you've gone as far down the Marxist rabbit hole as James has it's pretty much almost impossible not to see the Marxist pathology even when it's apparently unintentional.
01:36:00 This is the late Millenial/Gen Z obsession rejecting all human thought and civilization that predates them. All of Daddy's heroes were really corrupt, psychos, or weak. All the villains they fought are misunderstood. They seek to rewrite everything their parents believed or taught them. F'ing infants.
It’s Marxism. This is how all revolutions start. You have to disconnect the youth from their traditions and create problems you can sell them answers to. It
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I loved Big Jack Horner, because he was the first truly irredeemable villain in years. Glorious
I showed the original Lion King to my 11 year old son this weekend. He loved it and I’d forgotten how magical it was. I refuse to watch the remakes. Disney will not retcon my fondest childhood memories.
Once the goal of 100k is achieved. Mark Kern will print all the signatures and send them to the offices in Korea, Japan and California. It worked before with Blizzard, it should work now!
Do you have a link to the petition so I can sign it?
Could you imagine being that pissed off at the world where you are able to sustain it that long, to try and influence and derail an entire industry - one that was focused on joy, kick ass experiences, and having fun?
They would have my pity, but I'm too busy having a great time.
Ehh poor Lara. Their atrocities towards her was the last straw for me.
I know Sargon has his silly moments but his dissertation on the true scale of the culture war we're fighting was something more people need to hear. Drinker, you need to clip that and upload it.
The "culture war" (or "race war" to him) is Sargon's whole personality trait
There are worse things in life than movies being s*** go out and touch grass
@@johnmcternan4157There are worse things in life than people pointing out the ongoing culture war, go out and touch grass.
@@johnmcternan4157 er, that's not what's being discussed here?
@@robbo_96 If Sargon was interested in a race war, he would take issue with the presence of all the Sikhs in the UK. He doesn't. You might be thinking of Humza Yousaf.
Unfortunately what Drinker said about some folks wanting to take something from a community is true in regard to Warhammer. I know someone personally that is absolutely ecstatic that they added female custodes, not because they wanted to play and felt included now, but because screw the community.
Most wokies are like that. They celebrate in other's despair because they are miserable themselves.
Yeah, they'll tell you right to your face "it's worth it and right because it offends the right people." Pro tip: offense may be your end result, but if it is your mission statement, you've already lost your way.
Listening to this episode after the Helldivers fallout that came just afterwards is painful. 😢
You talked games in 1993, and didn’t mention Doom?! I get that it was December, but that was a juggernaut when it got going
The Circle of Drunks, from The Liquor King soundtrack.
Why can't we have Mufasa as a tiger for diversity?
Nah,the tiger was Simba's mama's boyfriend. 😂
In Lucas' defense about the prequel trilogy, he didn't want to write or direct them. He'd arranged for Speilberg to do the first one, actually. He wanted to control the plot, finances, and overall creative vision. Pepsi offered a billion dollars on the caveat that Lucas wrote and directed the movies.
He's aware that there are better directors, that's why he only directed the first Star Wars movie in the original. He enjoys being an active producer.
I've always said Lucas created started Star Wars, but he never really understood it. To him it was just a simple kids movie full of adventure, inspired by the things he grew up with. He thought he'd make one and move on to other stuff. Even his friends like Milius and Spielberg thought it was a bit silly. But Star Wars exploded and became too much for him. He still never got the fact that it didn't just appeal to kids, he just wanted to sell toys. So by the time of the Prequels, the audience had grown up and matured, but still thought of it as a kids show.
@@aldunlop4622 Lucas works best as an idea man, and even then, he needs someone to filter out the bad ones
More Grummz, great perspective to have on.
I had no idea who Carl Benjamin was.. I was like "this guy is makin a ton of sense, who is he?" .. LOL
Carl is a great speaker. Actively disliked by the leftist media here in the UK, to the point he has been branded something he is not. It’s appalling how mainstream media can paint pictures of people, make normies believe it, and tarnish his name forever among the uneducated. You should see his BBC interview, the woman interviewing him should be in an asylum.
Grumz was a very interesting guest, I didn’t know much about him but kept hearing his name lately, thanks for having him on!
because he is trying to improve his image and the way people see him, something he needs given he has provided nothing more than a rough basic tech demo for his "game", a game which is 7-8 years into development and all it seems to do is want to collect more money yet a game has not appeared beyond said tech demo. There are solo devs who have created full games in less time who used Unreal Engine, which is the same thing Mark is using for Em8er. Basically he is trying to be the next Star Citizen, doing little more than offer things that dont exist and wont exist for a looong time and the last time i read an official post from him on the subject, the "money gathering" was not to complete the game but was for some reason needed to start.....yes....another fund raising attempt on Kickstarter.
Basically these "loyal firefall supporters" he mentioned have slowly been calling his never ending money raising as a scam and he needs good press. Then also factor in that his initial promise for Em8er was to be a spiritual successor to the game he mentioned, Firefall, something which was used carrot+stick style while collecting funds only for him to later state that, nah, that sounds too difficult and changed what was intended to a sort of Monster Hunter themed game instead. Its basically a mess with a never ending money grab with the slowest tech demo progression to date of any "game" ive seen.
Are his points on the current situation and everything talked about in this video valid? 100% yes they are, but while valid, this is still also a popularity seeking exercise to smokescreen & hide the mass comments about his 7-8 year old scam game. just look for recent videos on youtube regarding "Em8er" you will see lots from a looong time ago, all positive with an eventual decline into "yeeeeah its looking like a scam".
Always love hearing people grow up with the original Macross
Same here. I love Lin MinMae. Was heart broken when she didn't end up with the pilot. She was too great for him anyway 😁
Edit: I remember playing an old Family Ninetendo game for Macross.
Worse moment of the Sequel trilogy is pretty hard to pick one since there was so many bad right away and they just got gradually worse. I think you can only go with the first one that really broke you. For me the ST moment that really broke me was pretty early in TFA; the scene where Rey 'saves' BB-8 from the rival scavenger. There is so much wrong with this scene; the anti-logic of her goals (why does she even intervene to just send BB-8 away again?), the fact she has full conversations with a droid speaking binary without a translator, the way the other scavenger just gives up, the fact after 'saving' the droid she directs him to the very town the other scavenger was going to bring the droid to (thereby dooming it to the same fate she just saved him from for no reason since she had no goal to assist the droid or claim the parts as her own).
This scene is so dumb and yet so clearly designed to both make you sympathize with Rey's 'goodness' but also her 'reluctance' it felt like it came out of an assembly line of 'how do we manipulate the audience to fawn for this character as much as possible' and they just added every ingredient they could think of without putting any thought into the implications. After that scene I knew exactly what they were doing so every moment after any scene which Rey was meant to look awesome or sympathetic felt like cheap manipulation.
The Fugitive was so good. And Groundhog Day was classic. A Few Good Men, what a good year for movies....
As for my childhood cartoons, Silverhawks, BraveStarr, Poli Position, Dungeons & Dragons, Voltron, Robotech, Saint Seiya, to name a few.
Silverhawks, M.A.S.K., Voltron, and Transformers for me.
@@richvestal767 Those were the days, man.
I'm so old that old movies that are now considered great I thought were 'meh' at the time. A sad commentary of today's entertainment...
It’s the old ‘flower in a desert’ principle where you take an average flower from a field of beautiful flowers and transfer it to a barren desert…and now it becomes the most beautiful thing you have seen!
We had it good back in the day and were spoilt with classic films so it was just average to us.
But the poor kids today have nothing but that average flower to look at in their barren desert…and it shows!🥹
Pretty much
On the Warhammer show, the whole point is that it's 'NOT' about space marines lol. That's basically a one dimensional setting with not many places to go story wise. The show is about the Inquisitor series Eisenhorn. It is basically a detective story about inquisitors who have essentially limitless authority and hire whoever they want to assemble the most unique talents to bring down the biggest bads hidden throughout the Imperium. The show is not about space marines and definetely not about custodes that never leave Earth... Whoever demanded the change simply saw the interview where Cavil said that custodes are his favorite faction when he's 'playing the game', and said 'A female custodes now! chop chop'
It's a huge mistake to not make the show about marines and to instead make a BBC crime drama. The show will be an epic fail
It was also such a fantastic trilogy, and a perfect entrance into the series
@@criticalcommenterI disagree. Many people love the setting without constantly creaming over Space Marines.
You don't know a damn thing about 40k is you think Space Marines are one dimensional. Inquisitors are vastly more generic and vastly less interesting.
@@richter6699 Not really trying to argue, but the show is about The Eisenhorn books, not so much generic space marines or inquisitors. Also I really don't see how you are backing up Inquisitors being vastly more generic and less interesting, at least/especially 'story' wise. What other books could they make a show about, especially as a first for the IP.
Wow drinker! Did ya post the stream before the clips?! Thank you!
funny when i hear hard R i thought they were referencing the word for people with impaired mental capacities
I remember reading an article about the CGI in Jurassic Park and I basically described how they gave the dinos "jiggle physics" by modeling the bellies with appropriate masses under a skin. But no, the CGI is not that good compared to today, It is noticeable. The Connection Machine CM-5, Silicon Graphics hardware and the "It's a Unix!" scenes are still with me.
Very nice to get to know Grummz! I found his insight and comments interesting and refreshing.
I'm still surprised my company hasn't done diverity training, they love doing pointless training courses that have nothing to do with me doing my job.
Favorite cartoon was The Real Ghostbusters.
Good times! I watched this in the afternoon after school in my country.
Another great tour Mike! The lava like walkway entrance has a very tiki-ish fell to it. The only thing it needs is an outdoor shower that has access to the master bath.
The 90s Super Mario Bros is one of my all-time favorite bad movies. What a wonderful "dark Oz" fever dream!
I miss watching a brand new *Don Bluth* animated movie in the theaters, however I also miss double features and the local drive inns I watched them at. *Especially Going Ape in 1975.*
Mauler destroyed Fallout with that video, I think I saw 4 episodes, if I saw his video first I wouldn't have watched any
There were a shit ton of cartoons when I was a kid: Brave Starr, Centurions, M.A.S.K, Garfield, Looney Tunes, and those already mentioned G I Joe, Transformers, X-Men
Pretty simple: don’t hire 9000 people, you don’t need many for 1 good game. Also don’t have greedy uncreative corporate control everything.
The X-men cartoon was amazing .. proper wolverine costume. That intro song..
Batman the animated series had maybe the best iteration of the character.
Chip and dale rescue rangers and tail spin came on after school- good times
Hey last action hero is awesome! Benedict is one of my all time favorite villains!
P.s. I’d love to here maulers opinion on that film. I know he’s a fan of Charles dance but I’m sure he would probably still rip it to shreds lol.
Glad you called out Second Wind, they are a prime example of what’s wrong with games media.
Which is a real shame because they could have easily been an alternative but Nick wound up exposing himself for who he really is.
Which I find bizarre considering he works with Yahtzee and worked with MovieBob who are two great examples of what you should and should not do when it comes to politics.
@@NathanCassidy721yes very similar to kinda funny
I love the fact you got Mr. Grummz to come on! That’s awesome!
Grummz is a fascinating guest. Need him back on the bar!
Hard R means as extreme as a movie can be without getting an x rating.
48:42 Hail Robotech! Loved that as a kid…
Fantastic Open Bar! Great guests and topics.
Never had a favorite cartoon being a kid, but getting a little older I found a serie om the old MTV called The Maxx.
Yes! This was one of the most underrated and most interesting psychological comedy/tragedies out there.
I consider it right up there with Marvel's "Legion".
@@richvestal767 Yea. A friend om mine said that if you have mental issues, don´t watch it.
@@richvestal767Ah Legion,one of my favorite mutants,a powerful psionic with a broken brain. 👍
Touching on what Grummz said around 2:04:24, the controversy isn’t that PalWorld is a Pokemon-alike… it’s that it is using Pokemon’s 3D assets. Many of the creatures are modified Pokemon models. They didn’t make their Pals, they illegally modified digital property.
Carl completely contradicting himself with deadpool comments
Where do you sign this petition? I can't seem to find it, thanks.
last action hero is pretty good. Surprisingly intense at the end. I agree ahead of it's time probably.
Remember, Star Fox was made by Rare (Donkey Kong Country, Killer Instinct). They were the first to bring 3D graphics to the SNES, pushing the envelope much farther than thought possible
I've never seen a Rian Johnson film that's ever lived up to the hype. Lookout was decent but dragged a lot, and Brick honestly just didn't interest me at all.
His movies have been up their own butt since day one.
Was worried when i saw no mauler and only two guests at a time, but the three guests were great and had some very interesting stories
I don't do the twitter or X scene whatsoever so this was very nice for you to get Grummz as a guest since he's only been the guy everyone else quotes from while trying to relay BS coming out in the gaming sphere. Grummz and Kabrutus should just link up and do a who's who type of dossier for what positions, studios, firms are occupied by the miasma that's pulling all enjoyment from the gaming industry as a whole.
The Helldivers exaple at around 2:02:09 didn't age well lol!
Well, hopefully that changes soon.
Also sauron talking super confidently about the lore for somebody who doesn't know anything about the lore.
What do you expect when the live broadcast happens on Thursday and Sony tries to sneak this bad news in on Friday.
Holy King Smokes !
You guys all are most impressive ! 👏👏👏
my favorite cartoons were re released by Hanna Barbara in '82 like Thundarr the Barbarian, The Herculiods and Space Ghost (not that stupid talk show version) and Jonny Quest.
There is no open bar without the Longman
It's the half-closed bar.
42:47 While it's true you can't change course on a 200 million movie as fast as a comic book, David Zaslav has demonstrated that you _can_ decline to release it. Between the Cass Report in the UK and the US election in November, certain woke celebrities might become so radioactive that we see more of it.
5:52 Missed opportunity to make an Aladdin Sane reference.
Hey, I just noticed the _Jack Carver (Far Cray 2004)_ Shirt that Drinker have on.... nite........ and at 2:24:19 Henry Cavill for Ryan Drake.. come on..!! Do it..!!
The first five minutes of Justified is one of the best character introductions ever!
It'd be interesting to hear Sargon elaborate on the "unbelievably well funded" part of what he said about possibility of GW backing off from recent WH40K controversy. I was wondering about that for some time. There's ESG angle, then work with politicians, particularly female ones, but other than that? You somehow have a talk with some hypothetical Bill G. and tell him all about how unhappy you are and how the world needs to change in order to better accommodate your delusions? Great guest selection, very interesting convos, thank you guys!
Fantastic episode. Was a bit skeptical at first with the longest of all men absent and so few guests but turned out to be one of the most information packed and entertaining shows.
2:10:00 That's in the Plinkett Review of Star Wars The Phantom Menace, towards the end. "There is some guy called William Shakespeare who said: brevity is the essence of wIt"
Gonna have Scar in Mufasa when he was young, before he had a scar, and he’s gonna ask his parents why the fuck they keep calling him scar
Fun fact: there's actually a lot of expanded lore for Lion King, including a book where Scar is revealed to be a nickname (surprise) with his real name being Taka. Meanwhile, in The Lion Guard animated show, his name was Askari. Because most of the names in Lion King are Swahili words, I take Taka as more canon because it is "waste" or "want," whereas Askari, while having some meaning, does not seem to tie in with Scar as a character.
Regardless, the Mufasa trailer piddled all over the lore with its opening line (no surprise, given the 2019 movie already did that), so they're not going to do it. I'm not precious about expanded Lion King lore, but it is another situation where Disney has the material and is actively choosing to do something rubbish instead. Just like they did with Star Wars and the MCU.
Yeah....Thunder Cats!
YES about time Magnus got on here.
About Helldivers 2, if somehow you could erase every reference to Warhammer 40k, Halo, Starship Troopers, Terminator, etc is it still a good ( insanely popular) game or do those references elevate it that much?
Timeline is definitely not 2yrs. The 5yr estimate for this shit to be over is likely correct; current pipeline will take time to crap out, but getting rid of talentless hacks with ideological differences that got hired because of their connections to one of those money people in charge takes more time.
I love the new intro.
Damn, I had no Idea so many iconic and well known movies and games came out in 93'. Sure interesting. But I can still remember Jurassic Park when it came out.
An absolute bar setter when it came to CGI. And I think it's still the best of the series. Only watched it 7 times in theater though. But that were different times.
It still took a lot of time from movies to leap from theaters to your home and VHS was still a big thing.
Sargon always gets so close to seeing the woods amongst the trees with his noticing there 'seems' to be a spiritual war. But cannot quite comprehend that the force behind what he acknowledges as Evil is not purely human, because it seizes humans and can exist outside them waiting for a new willing host. These ideas have base, almost Lovecraftian roots deep inside the collective nature of man. And if Evil exists in this immortal, nascent internal form, seeking to manifest itself in the world, then an equal force of Good must also exist that can be called on to fight it.
Forgotten kids shows:
Mask and Visionaries: Knights of the Magical Light
The Long War has open sourced the rules on warhammer 40k to provide a better 5th ed themed gaming edition for the very reasons discussed.
2:32:00
Man... i missed Mauler's "Byeee" at the end of this vídeo.
Always great to see Sargon and Drinker together. Both are the GOATs of their respective fields.
My shows: thundercats, he-man, Saint Seya, DragonBall, Transformers!
Looney Tunes is consistent in its rules.
You can actually look up the list of I think 20 rules that the Wily Coyote/Road Runner cartoons had to follow.
Tiny Toon Adventures lampshades many of those rules as part of the comedy/jokes.
Edit:. Bayonetta gets retroactive approval because she's anti Christian and a fetish/bondage queen, so she's a part of the anti normalcy push.
Seriously though, just watch the upending cutscene of Bayonetta and look at what she does to the "angels". She's also a witch fighting the God knockoff. So yeah.
I believe some also stared insisting that Bayonetta is "queer."
I just bought milk yesterday. It was $2.50 for a gallon.
That's a really good price. At the top tier stores in my area is 4.50 a gallon for name brand milk
@@macmcleod1188 Jewel Osco in IL. It's the house brand but good quality. I tried the Kemp but i swear I tasted a touch of cow flop in that brand.
You shouldn’t been drinking milk your a human not a cow. But if you must 2.50 must be the trash store brand gross
Kroger brand is about that price but tastes like cardboard.
35:32 It's not that they don't get it, it's that they aren't allowed to do it.
43:32 time stamp to come back later
"Have you heard about Sauron's mother!?"
That had me dying 😂😂😂
I want to see this story put together with orson Scott card. Excellent writer
One of the first movies that I saw with my parents at the age of 8, I think, was Race With The Devil with Peter Fonda....
Imagine that happening today, people would have a hissy fit! 😆😂
It seems Sony has backtracked on the PSN requirement for Helldivers 2. Need confirmation.
Troon Raider
I don't miss Mauler sometimes.
Invitation to a Gunfighter is my favorite Western.
Im not seeing Grummz petition link in the description?
I just googled it and it was the first thing to pop up. Just search “free Stellar Blade petition” and you’ll find it.
Theo James (lead actor from the Gentlemen) to be the next James Bond!
Like if you agree
He's a bit old, but he would make a swanky M
Lara Croft lookin like Leon Kennedy these days...
Great crew!