Why elite US forest service firefighters use NATO straps Wranglerstar
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Also popular amongst Desk-Dwellers like myself. 🎉
Love the Nato. Just picked up a leather one for the Hamilton.
@MrHolyKindness U can just wash them
@MrHolyKindness usually just wash mine, the ease of disassembly makes it neat
I like your profile name
@MrHolyKindness I just suck the sweat out of mine, nice little midday treat
Naturally a British invention.. if you lose your watch, you don't know when it's time for tea
Tea wins wars 🇬🇧
It's always time for tea
Ohh, the British always know when it's time for tea, it's hard wired.
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As if, we’ve a built in clock 😉
You people have no idea how badass that Marathon watch is.
I mean, it’s alright…I guess.
@@leifhoklin2681 Leif has no idea how badass it is
Not really. It's just a basic looking dive watch.
@@JustAnotherDayInEngland get vaccinated
@@JustAnotherDayInEnglandnot too many watchmakers use tritium as illumination. They’re also very easy to use with gloves on and they’re very durable in the automatic watch world. I’d say they’re overpriced a but these days but definitely worth it as a watch
Thanks Fred. Always rooting for you and the rest of the scooby gang
Ruh Roh!
Fred Shag Daphne.
Right on thanks for the explanation, I have NATO straps for most of my watches but I haven’t used them yet, and I also have a NATO adapter that goes on the watch so the Citizen watch I have is called eco-Zila and you’re able to remove the lock pins, and swap it out for a solid one piece titanium adapter it fits perfectly into the old spring brackets, so there is no way it would fail unless all 6 screws on the back plate were to all come out. Really great watch, made of all titanium, the Ti model is discontinued, but they still make them is Stainless Steel, but those are 2x the weight.
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I guess you might be a Professional homeowner!
@@fernand3s i take care of my 88 year old father, so I’m not sure what that would be in your book, but i guess thats close.
@@szabib2144 it's just that nobody knows what that even mean.. 🤣 it's just funny. I like the videos anyway.
I have nicer watches than you
And wearing a band of nylon is always fun in fire situations. Makes a wonderful souvenir in your skin to remind you of that lovely day forever!
Firefighters rarely get caught in flames, all skin is covered at all times in fire resistant clothing too.
With that being said why this man thinks NATO straps are superior for this specific application is odd, it's an outdoors strap that's where it works best, firefighters not sure about that and as you pointed out nylon wouldn't be a fun time however they don't show skin so shouldn't be an issue
They make leather NATO straps too.
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@@fewik8567
I remember hearing firefighters avoid metal watch straps due to fire... (cos it must be a xxxx to have a hot one on one wrist and you're burning the pinkies of the other trying to get it off?)
Just something I heard.
@@TeddyBear-ii4yc wear a metal watch band in the sauna for 2 mins and you can see why metal bracelets for watches are a bad idea for Fire fighters
I had forgotten what you look like when you smile @Wranglestar back up out of that rabbit hole Just a Little Bit, brother.
Love the Marathon.
Wouldnt you wanna make sure that the strap is made out of cotton, bc if its made out of polyester fabric it would just melt itself right onto your hand instead no?
If its so hot it's melting your probably already dead.
If it's getting hot enough to melt the strap I'm sure you are not going to be in a state to notice.
@@jeep13ca that is sooo true people don't realize if it's hot enough to melt a nylon band your skin is already on fire and would be the least of your problems.
this comment section maaan
Good point
Subtle watch flex. I do love the durability and feel of a Marathon over my Tags and Citizens.
Yes, they are tanks.
Tag? 🚮
His 5 or 6 digit reference by mr. wilsdorf is a much better “flex”. 😎
Fun fact, the second layer running under the watch can be brought down around your wrist. Meaning you have retention with the spring bars as well as the clasp. Doubling the inherent protection afforded by the strap.
Gotta love the Marathon tritium watches!
Fun fact is that the second strap was intended to prevent watch from slipping from the strap when it was traditionally hanged by the buckle from a nail while not worn
“Invented in 1973” but secretly in use by James Bond 11 years before that.
Edit 1 Oct 2022: i agree Bonds strap in Dr No was a simple single piece of nylon strap and lacked the second piece that makes a NATO strap.
Didn’t Bond have a Zulu strap?
@@spymo9360 nope nato strap Zulu traps are thicker and only single strap not double
The strap used by in Goldfinger wasn't a NATO strap but just a nylon strap. You can tell it's not a NATO because it lacks the characteristic second strap with its metal loop that would be visible if it was there. The strap James Bond was using is more like the nylon strap you would find on USGI watches of the time.
That wasn’t a nato strap
Hey @@Ferien7 , thanks for confirming what i said, in my edit, nine months ago.
Nothing like a nylon strap melting onto your skin to really seal the deal. Can't lose it then.
If it's so hot the strap is melting you're probably already dead.
Nylon melts at 428F that's an home oven at near full blast. if you are in that situation I think the watch band melting is the least of your worries. Also with NATO straps they are long enough to be properly wearing it over their fireproof coats just like dive watches go over their dry/wet suits.
I mean, if the strap is melting then its not a big deal, because you're dead.
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@@Azreal911 look up the temperature of a flame in a wild fire...
I had a strap like this. But it was velcro and had a flap that went over the top too for protection and reduced reflection for better concealment.
That's a well-loved strap.
Most “elite firefighters” can’t afford a Marathon watch. I’ve seen mostly $20 Casios
Marathons aren’t too expensive, but a gshock is astronomically more durable
But the marathon you don’t have to worry about running out of battery
However lots of gshocks also have solar nowadays
I prefer lugging around a sundial around with me
Yeah doubt any laborer is going to buy a $1000 watch for work
@@brian2440 Agree. Simple square tough solar any day of the week.
@@brian2440 not all of them are auto's.
Thank you sir, for these great videos
Love nato straps. Especially seatbelt natos. They feel really soft and premium. Best thing about natos? No irritating tail end sticking out to get caught on stuff. Worst thing a out natos? Some watches have a very narrow gap between the case and springbars so they don't fit a nato.
I had that and it was awesome.
When Wranglestar mentions English or British stuff my heart is warmed. There is more that connects us than not.
Safe, comfortable, and easy to change. That’s why I like NATO straps.
Best band made! I’ve had the same one for the last 10 yrs and it’s as good today as the day I bought it.
What make is it?
As a person that has worn a watch in the thick of it in a variety of scenarios I can say I’ve never seen or heard of that pin breaking.
I have. Dude almost lost a Rolex that way. I've also seen cheaper watches have pins break in the rough surf. Often older springbars.
Thank you. Learn something new every day
I actually tucked my band in because I didn't want to cut my band length even though it was long, so glad to see I was actually wearing it properly!
Best budget good analog watch, not cheap, but let’s say under $500 or even less, that’s a video I’d like to see.
Cheers from Tokyo!
Stu
I'd like to think my Seiko SKX007(J) would be somewhere on that list Stu?
As well as being bomb-proof, an SKX really IS bullet-proof: I bought mine after seeing one encased in clear resin with an Afghan 7.62x39mm AK round that it had stopped buried into it, behind the bar in the NCO's Mess at a Military Establishment in the UK.
The impact smashed the guy's wrist, but that SKX saved his life because apparently from the angle that it hit his watch, he'd figured-out that it would've caught him somewhere between the top-edge of his body-armour and his jaw, so that would've been a very bad day at the office for him indeed...
Cheers from the UK 👍
He reminds me of my 8th grade science teacher. They both look like they could be cousins or even brothers.
My teacher was a ‘paleontologist’ on his free time and we even took field trips for it.
cute scarf mr professional homeowner
I'm getting one tomorrow!
I believe it’s supposed to be worn in a back pocket - right or left depending. And I’m not sure what white signals but I’m sure he does. 😉
I've used branded NATO straps for years and i can honestly say it's my favorite strap
I sell watch straps. Don't bother with branded stuff. NATOs are NATOs.
I fought 2 forest fires (one in California and the other was in Colorado)when I was in LBJ jobcorps and those are some memories I'll never forget. I met some really good people back then.
Simple things that you would usually not consider can make such a huge difference thats why i love this channel
I love hearing, “Protecting OUR National Forests”. Thank you for that Sir!!!
After seeing 50+ wranglestar chips I feel like fire service is part of my interesting facts collection.
Dang that's a old school marathon
Do you know the model # by chance?
marathon
@@JohnsonArmsProps gsar
Hell ya. Showing some love to canada with that Marathon!
I like your homestead content, but your forest service content is utterly cool and fascinating.
Not just firefighters..."ELITE" firefighters...thats why im not just a truck driver...i am truly an "elite" truck driver.
I love the forestry service. Best first responders, and rangers are some of the friendliest and most knowledgeable Leo’s I’ve met
I just bought my first marathon watch today! It’s the 41mm GSAR, glad to see it on your wrist also.
I have the misprinted dial SAR-D and it’s is as well made as my R watch
@@fredshanks2240 I have a SAR-D as well. Supposedly only about 200 made.
@@davesafirellc it would be cool find out! I may give Marathon a call.
@@fredshanks2240 True. They seem to be very responsive. Mine is ROUGH after 15+ years. I contacted them about a rebuild and they were very helpful. I chickened out on sending it to Canada. Ended up getting a basic service in the US.
I guess if you're close enough to melt the nylon, your watch is the least of your worries.
Lol yep! Cotton's burning point is 210 degrees Celsius while Nylon's melting point is 269. So your clothes are already well ablaze by the time your watch strap is starting to melt.
oh better than hot piece of metal , seering your hand to crisp. or smelly burnt leather
They also look cool af!
Nato straps are designed to be used with watches with fixed pins. Spring pins are actually put under extra stress with a Nato strap and are far more likely to cause a pin failure.
Exactly right. Fyi, the two pins are called spring bars. 👍🏻
Since we're on the topic of nato straps, there are some watches (especially field watches) with fixed bars since if both spring bars were to pop out even a nato strap would be useless. So not all of these bars are spring bars but in this case you're right
If you slide the watch closer to the holes then don't insert the secondary strap folded up to the buckle then put the other end through the second strap and the buckle you can now wear the watch on a NATO strap and have everything on the bottom of your wrist like a traditional watch it takes that bulkiness off of the side of your wrist and the watch wears more flat I find it to be far more comfortable another UA-camr the urban Gentry has a video explaining five or six different ways to wear a NATO strap they're awesome and that's coming from a guy who prefers a bracelet Style
That of straps, really suitable for outdoor activities
My dad Always wore his watches with this strap.
As a fisherman and diver, losing that dive watch could be a death sentence.
It had depth guage, time under alarms along with Tide times built in and programable.
They also make wearing heavy automatic watches a lot more comfortable!
Ok, so , apparently I have a concept that will be a real treat for everyone who is reliant on a watch . My desire to help and my desire to make money to not be dirt poor even out. While I know this will be marketed soon after i say it , as happens regularly for me. Gunsmithing saves the day once again. Remove the band retaining pins .
Drill a hole through both pin retention tabs , just continue the existing blind holes for the pins until through the tabs. Find a set of machine screws that are long enough to span the gap , thread the far tab to fit the screw threads, drill the near side to outside diameter of the threads. Now take some thin tubing or a roll pin that is long enough to spawn the internal tab gap, slide the screw through the hole in the tubing or roll pin and thread into the other tab. Now one you make sure it fits and screws down properly, leave the new pin in place and drill a vertical hole in the smooth tab side. Allowing a small divot to be formed on the pin itself. Thread and set screw or blind pin that vertical hole . Now good luck loosing that ! Red Locktite is recommended if you don't need to change the band often. Though a belt and suspenders approach , this will retain the pin and band through basically any situation. A more complex and expensive way is to use a self captive pin with a push button detent release on one side. For quick band release if need be.
If you need me to re explain because you want to do this to your watch, let me know. I am trying to balance info given with comment length.
Way to flex that Marathon. I'm a seiko guy, but I see you.
Fantastic watch choice as well, one of these days I need to get myself a Marathon.
At least you got a man’s watch. Love that Marathon!
At least,
I believe having a band similar to that is what kept my wrist from breaking when I went down on a motorcycle mishap and hit first hard on my palm trying to break my fall. Darn those oily patches at intersections !
As a east coast man my non sissy wrist are big enough to where no tail tuck is needed
NATO straps actually cause more stress to the spring bars since they are flexible. A bracelet is the safest way to wear a watch.
Firefighters worry about a cold watch touching their wrist
Well if your in a fire, that steels gonna be hot as hell on their arm.
👍I use to put my watches on Nato straps like this but I've learned a few different ways to use the strap to where the watch doesn't sit as high on the wrist....
This guy's boyfriend must be a firefighter or something
Sounds like you want a boyfriend who is a firefighter. 🤔
@@snackyxchan everybody needs a hero
Its the bandana round the neck that gives you that impression... Bad fashion sense...
I always wear a NATO while doing active stuff. Especially watersports, they dry off fairly fast.
Pins rarely fail. 😂😂😂😂
Glad to see your Marathon up and running again.
The "pins" are called spring bars. What's now called a NATO strap was around in the early 1960s as evidenced by Sean Connery wearing one as James Bond.
My favorite watch is the Bertucci field watch. It's inexpensive, light weight and super durable!
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Those were my dad's favorite watch straps too. Just because he had 4" wide wrists and these straps come in many length.
Pretty much every watch I own with the exception of my dress watch has a NATO strap. However, for the most part I do agree that NATO straps do reduce the risk of losing your watch, I actually lost a watch while having it on a NATO. It was winter and under my bulky parka, both pins popped and when I went to check the time, all that was left was a NATO strap on my wrist less my dive watch. I now make it a point to give the watch strap a good tug at both lugs before putting it on. The strap didn’t fail, just the lugs.
Cute lil neck scarf 🧣
Love that Marathon SAR!
Well in '62 James Bond you can see Sean Connery wear a NATO strap
Forest fir fighter, fire fighters, divers, military, basically anyone. I have been using a NATO strap for near 30 years now and prefer it over other straps.
The only spring bar failures I have ever had occurred while wearing NATO straps.
Bertucci watches have built in pins so the breakage isn’t an issue. Though they do use the same style strap.
I would imagine that just means you'd still need to worry about the bars snapping good thing they have those straps too just in case
Any other heavy duty labor intensive job will benefit from a NATO too, and as a bonus there are lots of colors avalible, it's a great addon for most watches, and breathable so you won't get a sweat-rash or similar problems while working in the summer
I had a completely different band that seemed better. it used velcro, the watch was held by the pins, and the strap wraps around then covering the entire watch protecting the face. Made from 2" cargo straps. I haven't seen one in years
Always where your bandana like the biggest metro in the woods!
Insulating your arm from the cold watch! That made me laugh!!
Love that marathon
Do you know what middle it is?
I like your marthon watch. I have a gsr. Love it.
And it just looks cool aswell!!!
I found a Seiko like thats thinking I was cleaning up the ocean from some trash. Someone thought it was a good idea to use a Casio strap. Sadly after a few years of wearing it I had a new battery installed and it wasn’t sealed properly. I lost my conversation piece to water intrusion.
It got popular after 1963 James bond movie goldfinger where he was wearing a nato strap watch. British military only got one if the filled out a G1098 file to aquire one I believe is the correct numbers. But they didn't Invent it or design or have any part in it start in the world they simply adopted it into British military in 1974 as an option for any soldier they filled out the proper paper work to get it. And if you read anything from b4 1974 after 74 and from American forestry services nothing says tucking in the tail like that is proper technique for anyone wondering
The neck-bandana sorta gives off them Ram Ranch vibes 😅 love you tho lol 🥰
I know right, looking a little Q.
I love NATOs - I have them on my outdoor watches as I do a lot of outdoor activities.
They very comfortable to wear and pretty much bullet-proof.
Greetings from rainy Scotland 😁
I have one on every part of my body
Cool point! I've always loved a nice leather nato strap. They're really comfortable because of that extra layer of material between you and the watch.
This guy is like Batman. Keep up the utility gear videos!
Marathon great choice
I started a leather hobby on my down time on fires and made a watch band based off this strap my buddy had
I was in a motorcycle wreck, t-boned by a drunk driver, and lost my seiko. I prefer Zulu straps they are less bulky, more simple and do the same thing.
NATO straps also make your spring bars more likely to fail by putting more pressure on them than a traditional strap or bracelet. While overall they probably provide more security, they often create their own problem.
I fold mine differently, but I have nine NATO straps and frequently swap them out, depending on what outfit and watch I'm wearing that day. I love them!
If it was made from a fire resistant material maybe it would be better suited. Nylon tends to melt and I can imagine working around a forest fire it is a possibility that it would come into contact with something hot and you wouldn't want that melting on your skin out in the middle of nowhere
What melts first, skin or nylon? If it's hot enough to melt nylon you're already dead,
@@wranglerstar I wrote it because I thought of Heat Straps that are made for use by firefighters. The work conditions are probably vastly different but I don't have experience in either field and meant it more as a question. Same way a lot of military uniforms are made to be non drip so that in case something burning was to come into contact with them they don't melt on your skin
Marathon looking good!
NATO-spec is pretty cool as it has brought ideas and technology of multiple nations to bicker about
I have a nickle allergy. Placing band material between me and the metal stops rashes. Plus they are easy to swap out. Make sure you buy OEM or pins that exceed the quality of the originals to keep your watch with you.
This was exemplified to me yesterday when I was using a nato and one spring bar broke. My watch was saved from hitting the ground 👌🏼
When a man wears a watch it means someone else owns his time. My grandfather taught me this.
Actually you are not supposed to tuck the end in on the inside. The purpose of the two loops are to be able to run the excess strap up though and then down again on the outside, but still inside the loops. This was made so that in battle it would be easier for medics to remove a watch because you just hade to tug och the end to make the whole watch come loose.
The NATO strap was an update of the canvas VB HYGIENIQUE strap of 1945.
There's still third springbar (pin), which if fails, the watch falls down anyway. The one in the buckle!