Staraptor-line Solo Challenge - Pokemon Platinum
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- Опубліковано 28 гру 2023
- Rules:
1. Only my starter in battle
2. No items in battle, except held items
3. No glitches, exploits, save states, or RNG manipulation
4. No evasion moves before level 100*
Rule details:
-- *In gen1, evasion boosting is allowed if the Pokemon does it through means other than learning the move by level up or TM. For example, using Mimic or Mirror Move to boost evasion is allowed. (This exception is to keep ranking consistent with my legacy videos.)
-- I am allowed to manipulate my starter
-- I play the game at 4x game speed
-- For fair comparisons all my Pokemon have perfect (or near perfect) DVs / IVs
-- I am allowed to catch HM users - I can use all field moves
-- All in-battle glitches are allowed in generation 1
-- In generation 1, I'm allowed to skip Marowak with the Poke Doll
-- Surge's trash-can-puzzle is automatically solved
-- The bike is allowed in gen1, banned in gen2, and allowed for bypassing terrain in gen3
-- Saving between league members is allowed
-- If the solo Pokemon faints and I choose to blackout it counts towards my reset counter
-- I can pause the game and timer to take breaks
-- The footage is sped up / slowed down to match the pace of my narration
-- The ability Pickup can only be used if the starter has it
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Other people may have said this, but in case they haven't I have a tip, Scott - in Floaroma Town you can get the TM for Pluck, a 60-power Flying-type move with the unique effect of stealing and eating the enemy's held berry, assuming it's holding one. Since pretty much every ace in this game has a Sitrus Berry, it could help Flying-type Pokemon turn the tables on the enemy.
Staraptor learning Close Combat as it evolves was such an iconic moment as a child. It was insanely good. I really enjoyed using Bibarel as well.
Scott, Endeavor was introduced in gen III… Swellow learns it early
Swellow is also the regional bird for gen 3. Not pelliper
@@WiiFan20XX yeah and it’s better than Pelliper I think? I’m not sure though I don’t play much Pokemon. It’s definitely cooler.
@@kevinsips3658nah pelliper shreds
they r both alright guts swellow is pretty nice, pelliper can setup rain and learn protect so, slightly different playstyles @@slimjong-un5743
Not only does Swellow learn it, but Ratatta and Mudkip line also learn it late in the playthrough... both lines Scott definitely played before, he just never used this move.
I always thought the Taillow/Swellow line was the main bird Pokemon in Gen 3. Pelliper feels more like a Staryu or Goldeen.
its a weird thing with wingull and tailow. Based on the pattern of what people use the qualify as the "regional bird", Wingull fits the boxes, even moreso than Tailow. It is the first flying type avalible to the player, and its found ALL over the region. Tailow comes a bit later, and is much more limited. it used to be that "regional bird had to be Normal/Flying" but that was broken with Fletchling becoming Fire/Flying, and then Rookidee being pure flying. My theory is that when fans coined the archetype of regonal bird, it was just that they had to be normal/flying, because it was prior to fletchling.
Is kinda like the Spearow of its generation.
@@MariokemonIdek who Paldea’s regional bird is, but if it’s Kilowattrel, that also breaks the streak
Then again, Squawkabilly exists, which is normal/flying
When you look at the hoe and region and notice that it's one of the most water dominant (is that a good choice of words to describe the Hoenn region) regions in all of Pokemon, the idea of the water/flying type Pelliper being the regional bird makes a lot of sense...
But I feel Hoenn could have 2 regional birds like they do pseudo-legendaries...
But let's also keep in mind Paldeas regional bird Kilowattrel isn't an "early route" bird either.
When you look at the hoe and region and notice that it's one of the most water dominant (is that a good choice of words to describe the Hoenn region) regions in all of Pokemon, the idea of the water/flying type Pelliper being the regional bird makes a lot of sense...
But I feel Hoenn could have 2 regional birds like they do pseudo-legendaries...
But let's also keep in mind Paldeas regional bird Kilowattrel isn't an "early route" bird either.
One of my conspiracy theories is that the Rock type was spilt from ground types specifically to create a type that resists normal for Brock to use to teach the player to not just use normal attacks.
My theory has always been that rock throw and earthquake were some of the first moves invented, and it made no sense for a bird to be hit by earthquake, or immune to rock throw.
@@craigyeah1052 so looking at the bulbapedia list of moves by index number, Rock throw, Earthquake, Dig and Fissure are all clustered together from index number 88-91, which I am gonna choose to read as supporting my theory since that's in the middle of a bunch of sets of moves of the same type: before that you have thundershock thunderbolt thunder and after that you get confusion psychic hypnosis, so I am going to argue that the index number indicates rock throw was originally a ground move that was changed later, particularly as rock slide, the only other gen 1 rock move, is at the end of the gen 1 index at 157, as if they made up a new type and realised they needed more moves for it.
I think Scott is going to be a huge close combat fan in this Gen lol. Can't wait to see my favs from this Gen gliscor and roserade!
I predict that he might do Gliscor in a sort of "marathon" of mons redeemed by evolutions in this gen. Alongside say Honchkrow, Weavile, and/or Mismagius.
Close Combat > Submission any day
It’s just crazy how many things learn it in this gen haha.
Close Combat is such a fun move, it definitely is in the category of moves that Just Work
Staraptor is such a stacked regional bird. Great stats, strong moves including good STAB options with early Wing Attack and not to mention getting Close Combat on final evolution. Also just has a cool design, plus the Intimidate ability makes it legitimately kinda bulky on the physical side at times.
Best bird in my opinion. Talonflame is cool, but I just think Staraptor has done its thing longer and more consistently.
Talonflame also got giga nerfed after gen 6, and only gets its good features through breeding. It doesn't even get many good moves via levelup. Talonflame is also iirc not guaranteed due to Kalos distribution, whereas it's very hard to not get Starly in DPPt. By solo run and nuzlocke terms, Talonflame is kinda bad and Staraptor is an S tier mon.
Competitively, Talonflame also fell off because of its mediocre stats and how most of gen 6 ou moved to not needing defog at all. It's still good but our dear Smogonbird has seen better days.
@@louc.6735 Actually no, Talonflame does not get anything remotely useful from breeding. Just Quick Guard, Snatch and Tailwind in Gen VI. Gale Wings is not exclusive to breeding, but it IS unobtainable before the post-game, that is.
@@llSuperSnivyll ah. I remembered wrong. It's tutoring in order to get Flare Blitz and Brave Bird, which still makes it a bit of a liability for in game. It just. Is very underwhelming in nuzlockes.
The tip about using recoil moves is pretty good
Keep in mind that the recoil damage is a % of the damage dealt, meaning it won't be severe sometimes since your mon has more HP because of overlevel/effort/DVs/stat experience/high base HP compared to the target
To add a bit: besides Intimidate, Staraptor got Reckless later, dealing extra damage when using recoil moves
Just a side note: Cranidos is very frail, so you could potentially have beaten Roark by not being so defensive with Endeavor against it. It's pretty much a slow glass cannon. With that said, I'm very impressed by how well you did with Staraptor! Plus I'm pumped for the next Platinum video :)
On the twenty-ninth day of December, Scott's Thoughts gave to me:
The 'Raptor line not Flying
An honorary starter Sparking
A penguin mon Drill Pecking
The burning 'Ape Swords Dancing
A dramatic entry into Sinnoh
The Birds as a perfect ending
Mewtwo totally sending!
The first Dragon line slowly growing
A kaiju rhino stomping
A metal crab whose stats stay even
A pseudo legend walled by Steven
The egg tree with a garbage move pool
A 'Bro "destined for greatness"
Giovanni's aces finally winning
The tapirs using hypnosis
The 'King of emerald loafing
A lively mid stage slashing
The Johto trio roaming
Surge's 'Chu with a competent trainer
Classy Cat v Pig Monkey!
A moonstone evolution
The "Rhydon of gen three"
A Pure Power powerhouse
Wattson's ace in Hoenn
'Phan v Ursaring!
A tiny turtle's bubble
The fire starter digging
A garden lizard's leech seed
And those three weirdo mons punching
Balls to the vid, _forst for the comment!_
Dude why would you waste your time doing this lol
Good job! Keep it up 'till the end of the month!
Because people clearly like it, and I'm sorry your life is miserable enough to not want to do things that people enjoy @@perrycoffey5410
Because it's glorious @@perrycoffey5410
Just an FYI, for the Mars and Jupiter double fight in Mt. Coronet, if you have Pokemon that can one shot the Munchlax, definitely consider it. Almost any of Barry's other Pokemon are a far better help than Munchlax. 18:01 Awesome vid, btw, I knew Staraptor would do great.
A long time ago I owned this orphaned sparrow that really liked Starly's cry and would chirp back at it every time I or a trainer sent one out. I miss my little Turdybird. I can't not use a Starly whenever I play Platinum now because of her. (It helps that it's a strong cool birb)
Staraptor holds a special place in my heart, as my first run of Diamond was basically a staraptor solo. Knew this run would be a cinch, nothing gets in this bird's way!
Staraptor is the main reason that close combat is my favorite fighting type move of all time.
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Very cool 😎
CC is just a good move in general
I bet the reason Lucian is so bad is because you've been using overleveled physical attackers so far. I think he'd be a lot scarier with a primarily special attacker, and even though you've had pokemon that were supposed to be special or mixed attackers, you've gone with swords dance movesets for them, so they were physical by the time they arrived at Lucian.
With special attackers, I bet Bertha becomes a lot easier and Lucian a lot harder, with Flint and Aaron being the generally weakest members.
He’s honestly terrifying if you are a Poison type for Lucian. In fact, Poison type struggles a lot more than Electric in Sinnoh.
There are a few items introduced that will be nice to have in mind for later playthrough of other Pokemon, Choice Specs being one that you can get in Celestia Town or Metronome even in the Veilstone Game Corner (Which in the E4 if you are spamming one move, will help you with ranges)
I feel another reason why Staraptor beat Infernape also has to do with move sets and I'm not just talking about coverage. Every time you drastically change a Pokemon's moves it takes a little bit of time and when you do it frequently it eats up precious seconds maybe even minutes all together. Staraptor had more or less its final move set the second it fully evolved only swapping out one move for Brave Bird. Also Staraptor relied soley on raw power never wasting turns setting up.
Staraptor broke the mold of the regional bird in a great way. It is awesome, when i first played gen 4 I wouldn't use recoil moves, now all my flying types (that can learn it
), have brave bird and I have Staraptor to thank for it. I was not a fan of gen 4 before platinum but this bird was an instant team member.
Can also blame Drill Peck's sparse distribution and recoil moves were few and far between in prior gens and usually were bad or in Volt Tackle's case, limited by distribution.
Now that you’re on platinum, looking forward to Chatot! 😂 curious if yours will use the infamous chatter lol.
😁one of my absolute favorites. Not as good as staraptor, of course lol (and well done, by the way!)
Story as to why Chatot: I imagine the little guy like a cheery bard, traveling, collecting and sharing stories with people and Pokémon. Also, if I were in Hisui/Sinnoh, I would love to have a little chatot on my shoulder while I worked as an apothecary/ chef, telling me what the Pokémon patients need (and explaining what I’m doing for them) and entertaining both people and Pokémon patients and passerby’s with some stories we’ve collected along our travels.
Man, with this much production value, you've definitely earned a sub and new patron. I'm definitely gonna go through and watch your past videos.
I just want to say this has been my favorite series by far, Scott! I played gen 4 on repeat back in the day so I have a lot of nostalgia for Platinum. Seeing you do these runs really makes my inner kid really happy :) Can’t wait for future episodes!
Every Gen 4 playthrough I do, this bird ends up on my team. It's usually very impressive, too.
You kind of just catch the regional bird for the sake of it, fully expecting to drop it at some point during the game. Then this thing comes along and carries your team right to the end of the game haha.
Staraptor is the reason that people still get excited for the potential of birds at all in these games.
@@kode-man23a similar situation with early bugs happens in gen 5 ESPECIALLY the scollipede line.
@@octosage2861 Scollipede is GOATed. I was so happy that bugs in Unova were beyond “just usable” and were actually good.
Despite its type, Cranidos is frail. Just attacking it is often the right move. Growl isn't much of an answer to Roark given Screech Onix.
I did my Staraptor run before realizing just how potent late-game Rare Candies are, so I couldn't take such an offensive approach. Brave Bird and Close Combat made me unable to handle five Pokemon in a row. I ended up using Roost and Fly. The AI can't predict your change in type, so Roost is amazing against Pokemon with Rock, Electric, or Ice moves. It'll be great for Flying-types with less raw damage output.
Scott I’m so happy to hear you’re enjoying Platinum even will all it’s flaws! I’d be interested in seeing what a Solo Challenge would look like without rare candies as well. Thanks for all the videos this December!
I've been watching your content so much lately, it only makes sense to subscribe lol love the videos and the breakdown of stats! From one Canadian to another, keep at 'er, bud! lol
I loved having a Staraptor on my original Plat team. Again, with HM users, there has to be a cheat or code that someone could develop that would always set your slot 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 pokemon's HP to 0. Loving loving loving that you are playing platinum now. I can't wait to see more in the new year.
I’m loving this series! It’s been so long since I’ve played Gen 4.
It's fun to have done runs with Luxray and Staraptor, because of how common they are to peoples sinnoh teams. It'd be cool to see Pokémon like gastrodon and roserade because of how often you see them around, cresselia will definitely be an interesting one though!
The amount and quality of your content this year has been really great, enjoy your well deserved break in the new year!
Hoping some favorites like Sandslash, Walrein and my dude Huntail get runs in 2024 (Huntail vs Gorebyss overlooked water type vs. perhaps?)
really enjoying the platinum series so far, keep it up! you also seem to be playing pretty good for not being experienced with it.
MURDERBIRD. MURDERBIRD. MURDERBIRD.
We love Staraptor in this house. It's the best in-game regional bird. What an amazing Nuzlocke pokemon. The Pokedex entries suggest that Staraptor is one of the most violent predators and fearless fighters in the Pokemon world, so it makes sense that it's a cornerstone of every single Sinnoh nuzlocke.
Was waiting on this one. Hope it turns out good because i love staraptor
Love the Platinum play through. Looking forward to Lucario!
Happy to see my favorite Pokemon get covered 💙
Staraptor did about as well as I expected. It IS a beast. Close Combat is one hell of a drug for this kind of pokemon, one that improves their performance a lot. And yeah, don't fear the recoil attacks. Respect them, use them sparsely, so you don't waste time healing or resetting, but don't fear them. If you are going to need healing, getting a bit of recoil damage is better than getting a lot of damage done by your opponent.
Cresselia, huh? I gotta admit I never used it, and I have used even Darkrai. That's going to be an interesting run, and one I'll go blind watching it.
Staraptor is a total beast, as expected. And I'm glad you've been having a good time with Platinum, I totally understand the apprehension when you see things like Blissey health bars being depleted over the course of roughly a century but it's one of my favorites in spite of its warts.
Recoil moves are definitely going to be your friend in 4th gen, as they introduced a lot of really good type-based ones. Wood Hammer, Flare Blitz, Brave Bird... And then there's Head Smash which is even stronger, but also only has 80% accuracy. It's kinda funny to me that we have all these powerful moves introduced here but they never bothered to buff Submission's base power. Although, Close Combat is infinitely better anyways.
I know that the schedule will change in January, though i wanted to say I've been enjoying the daily uploads since i got a new job a week before Christmas. I have to drive an hour every morning, and the videos has helped me to wake up and mentally prepare for the day. I know this isn't anything particularly special, but still wanted to thank you.
Staraptor is also one of those Pokémon from Gen 4 you feel like you just HAVE to use from early on the game I know as a kid I always had one on my team, thanks for the great content as always
I'm loving the Platinum series so far I can't for you to get o all the new gen 4 evos to see out they stack up against their older selves from previous games!
My initial impression is that this generation is “harder” but because of the abundance of rare candies you are actually pretty unlikely to get stuck, particularly in the late game.
Because of this I expect the finish times to be somewhat close to each other.
Healing Moves and Double edge type moves synergize very well. Roost and Brave Bird
I'm glad you addressed why you picked that nickname. In the UK it's very funny, nearly choked on my drink XD
Imagine what a monster staraptor would be in crystal. Glad you’re enjoying platinum, it’s arguably the best game in the series in terms of actual quality and pacing
Hey Scott, I hope all is well, you sounded a little off in the last few videos, I could be wrong, but take a break if you need it, we'll all still be here even if you take a few days to rest. Fun video as always!!
Small correction but Endeavor is a move that was introduced in Gen III actually. It's learned by the Swellow line actually!
Staraptor sweep baby.
All i can think of is how excited ill be in 3 or so years when Scott starts on Gen 5 playthroughs 🤩
0:28 im pretty sure the regional bird from Hoenn is Swellow
its a weird thing with wingull and tailow. Based on the pattern of what people use the qualify as the "regional bird", Wingull fits the boxes, even moreso than Tailow. It is the first flying type avalible to the player, and its found ALL over the region. Tailow comes a bit later, and is much more limited. it used to be that "regional bird had to be Normal/Flying" but that was broken with Fletchling becoming Fire/Flying, and then Rookidee being pure flying. My theory is that when fans coined the archetype of regonal bird, it was just that they had to be normal/flying, because it was prior to fletchling.
This guy doesn't stop!
Long post, sorry, just 4 points
Staraptor is Gamefreak taking a good idea of Swellow and making it better.
Today we learnt, Endeavour is a poor move in a solo run, you are never gonna to knock the opponent out and i believe it's meant to weaken the opponent for your next Pokémon to grab the KO.
I guess Scott didn't need to do this, but i was screaming at my screen "YOU HAVE ROOST TO OFFSET BRAVE BIRD'S RECOIL"
That comment about your Pokémon's HP as a resource for more damage, that's a philosophy from many games, notable to me is Yu-Gi-Oh, "Life Points don't matter except your last one"
Thank you for reading.
This bird was really impressive! I was quite surprised when it got Close Combat upon evolving it to Staraptor in my first playthrough of Diamond and it's been a staple on my teams since. If only it had access to the Steel Wing TM for Roark.
I cannot wait to see you eventually solo run this game with a Floatzel as that is basically what i did as a kid. It worked though
I love Staraptor and it has being my favorite regional bird since I first played Pearl.
Finally an early bird that actually flies through the game :D
something i hope to see, particularly after you're back from vacation, is a platinum run with an early gen mon that suffered from a lack of good stab pre phys/spec split, like Kingler or Crawdaunt
BIRD POWER! I love Starraptor! Best bird! If your bird can beat you up with CLOSE COMBAT, then you might as well give up. So happy with the results!
Oh my God, are you ending with Cresselia and Darkrai? The full moon and new moon Pokemon? I thought we'd have to wait years for more Darkrai! I'm so hype for this!!!
My thought is if something learns double team by level up and has issues with the first gym it should be allowed to use it as long as it's overwritten after that (may not need to be deleted but that at least keeps it fair for the rest of the run and keeps things competitive and in line with their level up sets)
But at the end of the day, what you think is fair is all that matters. Cheers! Love the vids
It's just a guaranteed win tho
Honestly, I'm not too surprised Starapror dominated after the first gym. It's movepool is disgustingly broken! As always, excellent job, Scott and Team!
Wouldn't say disgustingly broken. It's relatively shallow but it has what it needs and gets great type coverage in very few moves. Not to mention its stat distribution being just right. More Special Defense would've been good though.
@@ShiningJudgment666 Fair enough. I typically stick with the first two generations and their remakes when replaying old Pokémon games. Gen 4 (Platinum, specifically) is one that I only replayed maybe twice, so I only remember so much from there.
Gen 3 regional bird should be swellow, if u think bout it from the anime wise ash has used the regional bird of every region till gen7 so yeah
Also looking forward to the god bibarel run for plat, that seems fun with the simple ability
i'm sorry you've made this many pokemon videos and never heard of FEAR? endeavor sturdy aron with shell bell?
Hopping your last video for a month is bidoof, the meme/god Pokémon
Cant wait to see you do a Palkia Yellow Backport and crush Mewtwos time.
Halfway through the video and all ive seen is birb go bop with massive returns lol
I remember seeing Pikachu runs that required luck for Byron even at level 100, some pokemon are going to get absolutely walled there
yikes thats gonna be rough
Another video to watch while waiting on Porygon 2 vs Porygon z
The low HP Hype!!!HYPE!!!! Dennis would be proud
Huh. So Scott thinks that Pelipper is the Gen 3 Regional Birb rather than Swellow, interesting 🤔
Starly is adorable, and I usually kept it's evolutionary line on my team all the way through the game.
Staraptor is so cool, my favorite Flying type
Can`t wait for Eeveelution showdown on gen IV.
You shoul do ALL 7 in one vs video! It`d be epic!
An absolutely fantastic run for such a poor Roark time.
This is my favorite bird in the entire franchise
Staraptor is my fav, flying type at the beginning .
Also called Regional Birds
I'm hoping for the near-mythical Carnivine! I didn't even know it existed for a very long time.
22:58 Yes, absolutely! I also think Flare Blitz would have improved your Infernape time, for example, as Fire coverage is quite good for a few mons for which you didn't have any, and Close Combat was pretty much always doing more than Earthquake anyway; I totally get being averse to using recoil moves, since you're really focused on solo challenges, but yeah, as Benjamin said, by being afraid of the recoil, you're not using a resource of yours (HP) and leaving a lot of power on the table.
I think Staraptor is still going to be insanely better when it starts out as a staraptor. It can probably get away with a ton less grinding against roark due to its improved stats.
Staraptor is my favorite regional bird, no doubt!
It's really refreshing to see Pokemon reach such high levels at the end of the game. Feels right.
Btw Scott can you leave in a bit more of the overworld? I haven't played Gen 4 as much so I'm still a bit fuzzy on the details and I generally like to follow your run a bit more. Yes you're generally saying where you are and what you're doing but I often times don't quite get it yet. I think that you made the switch from essentially showing everything to only showing the important details a bit too fast.
This generation feels more like a Gym Leader Battle Compilation than anything else. The elite four aren't even exciting because of the huge over-leveling in solo-'mon challenges. :/
That said, the effort put into these videos still shows, of course. Keep it up! ♪
One of my favorite pokemon.
Staraptor is easily one of my favorite regional birds
Let's go baby
I can't wait for Scott to figure out abilities and how to use them best with all of the starters and do some more speedrun strats
You said Endeavor is new to gen 4 but it was in gen 3 too, at least according to Serebii. The descriptions are different but I think it does the same thing.
Staraptor's just got the right stats in the right places and just Fighting and Flying alone is great type coverage. Normal being added to it is good too since it gets STAB on Return. Brave Bird being a strong STAB attack is great too. Roark as expected was a roadblock but beyond that, damn it's good.
This thing is a beast
I had a feeling Staraptor would excel. Gen 4 in many ways kind of feels like the first time they really started designing most pokemon to succeed. They don't always get it right, but you can see it in the vastly improved movepools, the more min-maxed stat distributions, and of course the physical/special split relieving so many pokemon of the burdens of mismatched types/stats.
Ive loved staraptor ever since i used it in one of my first playthroughs of pokemon where my staraptor was crazy strong and was always overleveled 😂
Werster did a speedrun where he caught a Starly as his main mon for the run and got within a few minutes of the Any% world record.
He relied on Double Team for Roark though!
What a powerful birb
Definitely my favourite birb
Oh great Scott!!
For Diamond and Pearl, my main pair to beat the ENTIRE game was the Turtwig and Starly lines, with appropriate HM Mules.
Wing Attack buff was the best thing to happen for early game birds
Staraptor didnt disappoint
You probably making good money posting every day but that shit must be tiring, regardless thanks for more videos lol
Correction: Pelliper is NOT the regional bird for Hoenn, that would be Swellow.
Taillow: "Am I a joke to you?"
Guts Swellow is amazing in solo runs, once you gain access to an Aroma Lady to rematch for re-poisoning.
"Gen 3 tried to make regional birds more interesting"
- lists pelliper
lol
its a weird thing with wingull and tailow. Based on the pattern of what people use the qualify as the "regional bird", Wingull fits the boxes, even moreso than Tailow. It is the first flying type avalible to the player, and its found ALL over the region. Tailow comes a bit later, and is much more limited. it used to be that "regional bird had to be Normal/Flying" but that was broken with Fletchling becoming Fire/Flying, and then Rookidee being pure flying. My theory is that when fans coined the archetype of regonal bird, it was just that they had to be normal/flying, because it was prior to fletchling.
@@Mariokemon The normal/flying type is the point here. Even with talonflame becoming a fire type, until it evolves fletchling is still a normal/flying type. So that tradition was kept all the way up until generation 8. Today's standards wingull could definitely be seen as a regional bird, but swellow is the more obvious and accepted choice because it ticks the same boxes as pidgeot and noctowl did before it, especially back when it released. There also isn't any reason to retroactively make wingull a regional bird just because the standards deviated 20 years later.
I want Staraptor to have a new regional form that's rock/flying with rock head for its ability :D
That sounds hilariously broken, the only thing stopping that from demolishing everything in sight would be Head Smash's shaky accuracy.