Why would you trust the FBI to police or have anhthing to do with "responsible gun ownership" when the FBI's own siper shot and killed an unarmed woman holding her infant child at a place called Ruby Ridge?
The father was crazy to give his 14 year old kid an assault rifle PERIOD. The kid should have been closely monitored and in mandatory counseling after the threat last year.
Did I miss the part where the rifle had an auto switch? Oh, it was semi-auto? Then its not an assault rifle. Agree with the rest you just sound fucking idiotic when you say assault rifle.
At the point the father bought the rifle for his son they had already been questioned about online threats about this very thing so the father is as guilty as the son, and just as stupid.
I’m all for guns and teaching kids responsible gun ownership but if my kid gets visited by the FBI he’s long lost that privilege and many more wtf was that “father”thinking
These types of gun nuts believe that by owning a gun they are arming themselves against government tyranny, so a visit from the FBI would just be more evidence of government tyranny in their minds. They use it as an excuse to arm themselves even more.
Thank you. I feel like it’s not that hard of concept. The dad should had been red flagged for the visit. I’m a leftist and I’m not anti-gun but common sense.
You can't buy assault rifles in the US, only long guns. Assault rifles can only be obtained through either buying a specialized permit that taxes you big time, or by purchasing an old pre-86 one, which costs a lot of money. Only rich people can afford actual assault rifles. The average serf is not allowed to have one.
@@supernovaexpress5241 Oh FFS. He bought his kid WHATEVER gun was obviously not meant for hunting animals but mowing down humans, which is exactly what it was used for.
@@audreymuzingo933 Youre clueless. A hunting rifle and the rifle the kid used are only different in that one is black plastic and the other is wood. They both operate the same. In fact, a hunting rifle usually has a more powerful bullet.
Nah, just two totally normal gun-obsesssed Americans 🇺🇲🫡🦅 Didn't you hear? This "is just a fact of life." Going to school in America is just a little deadlier than the rest of the world and unfortunately there's just nothing we can do about it.
Your son is 14 years old, he's been under investigation for deadly threats, and you BUY HIM A GUN!? Yeah, no. This isn't a policy issue. This is a horrid parent and mentally disturbed kid issue.
Agreed! I'm pro 2nd ammendment and I think holding these parents accountable is 100% a step in the right direction. The kid isn't old enough to own a weapon. Would you buy him booze and cigs too. This is bad parenting.
Kid gets questioned by the FBI because of posting threats about a possible school shooting. So, naturally, next Christmas daddy buys the child an AR-15. Okay. At some point this parent has 2 stop & say, 'I endorsed aberrant, criminal behavior. I gave my child permission & litteraly put the gun in my child's hands.'
Yeah its definitely strange. The father seems like an average hard working conservative, while the kid seems like the stereotypical.. opposite. I wonder if the media is hiding any manifestos from us like they usually do when the shooter is confused about which bathroom to use.
@@Missunderstood103 The father needs to have some accountability as he bought the gun and did not ensure it was safely locked away. I think he’s facing 180 years… That’s a bit much.
it really hinges on what the FBI actually had that was concrete evidence and what they actually told the father. its not clear from the bodycam video if there was more than rumors or hearsay. he knew the kid was getting picked on so it wouldn't be unreasonable that the bullies would claim the "quiet kid" made threats to further bully him. that being said I woulda stuck with airsoft or paintball for a few more years but I can understand not treating your own child like a potential murderer without concrete proof.
These parents who believe it's never gonna happen to them. Well, you bought your kid a gun & he goes out & kills. What can you expect from ignorant, defiant people ? The parents should be charged with murder & sent to jail!
No laws to against giving a weapon to a kid ...... whats needed is for every kid to have a gun,.....,., the other kids should have the freedom to shoot back. guns are a god given right ..... that cannot be taken away...... his age doesnt matter ..... 2nd amendment says nothing about age. i have to agree with JD Vance on this one....... basically he says ...... when you have freedom this is going to happen and we have to live with it,. God bless JD Vance.
America is the only country in the world doing this properly, whether you accept it or not. I'm european and live in the EU, theres 10 european countries that have a higher rate per capita of mass shootings than the US. Look it up "mass shooting rate per capita by country". And thats just compared to the US average. If we break it down to US states you'll see that about half of US states had only 1 or no mass shootings in their entire history. Also, any country that doesn't have the right to own the tools used to ensure self preservation, has no respect for freedom and has no citizens - it has subjects. The US is the only country in the world that actually respects freedom. Europe is a strange place indeed.
@@DesertStateInEUAccording to World Population Review, The highest mass shooting per capita between 2009 and 2015 was in Norway, but; "Norway's world-leading annual rate was due to a single devastating 2011 event, in which far-right extremist Anders Behring Breivik gunned down 69 people at a summer camp on the island of Utøya. Norway had zero mass shootings in 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015." If you think the US is safer than Norway, you probably need to think through your argument. As it happens I'm european and think responsible adult citizens should have the right to firearms, subject to appropriate regulations.
@@DesertStateInEU It should also be pointed out that if we look at shootings rather than mass shootings, the US is by far the most dangerous high-income country.
@@johnh6524 Wrong. This is exactly why we have rate per capita. Due to norway's low population, if you live there, you have a higher chance of being a victim in a mass shooting than in the US. If you don't understand this, you need to think through your argument. As it happens you being european while supporting gun ownership yet wanting the government to have anything to do with it, is the reason europe will never be free. It should also be pointed out that cherry picking your stats when you realize you're losing, is a common tactic and never leads to winning an argument, only to humiliation.
@@edwardTisk-ix8nj He's using bad parents as examples of bad parents. Since you don't have basic reasoning skills please don't become a parent, good or bad.
@@jamescook7713I mean, just for STARTERS Mr. "Cook," GA Gov. Brian Kemp has turned down simple "safe storage" law proposals. That's all. If not even THAT can get passed, NOTHING is getting passed and we all go back like nothing happened because "this is just a fact of life." 🇺🇲🇺🇲🫡🦅
The state with the most limited access to guns and most gun control has the highest occurrence of mass shootings(California) we already have means to prevent mentally ill people from obtaining a firearm(it's part of the NICS background check) but rightfully so it requires due process to prove your mentally deficient.
You can give your son a car but they can’t drive it until they’re of age and legally licensed to do so. Yet the common sense argument for regulations seems to baffle everyone. Pretending it’s a full ban vs unregulated situation is a false dichotomy and a stupid position.
Your comment alone is stupid. He’s 14, it’s illegal for him to own the gun. The laws in place already prevent him from owning it. This is exactly why the father is being charged
I used to think exactly like you about 15 years ago. I was also parroting these buzzwords like "common sense" and "sensible" and "safety" and etc. And I was also rolling my eyes when I saw somebody say they're going for an outright ban on all firearms. Then I noticed a few patterns and realized I was completely wrong. They're going for an outright ban, we give an inch they'll try to take a mile, so we wont give anything, in fact its time to take back all the miles lost and start protecting kids the same way we protect banks.
@@flipgroove I'm sorry to hear about your mental illness. I hope you get well soon, until then please stay away from crowds, concerts, airports, schools, churches, and cinemas.
Thank you ! It all starts and ends, at HOME ! Be involved in your kids lives. Pay attention to everything they're doing. Teach them. It's so much easier to send them to school, let schools, our government, the internet and video games, raise your kids. It's easier to blame someone else. I'm sorry, but the generation after mine, born in early 70s, ... Most don't know what it is to raise a kid. They have a baby, push responsibilities of on everyone else. Then, blame someone else for their kids actions. Kids don't even know what it is to work for something anymore. How to respect others, let alone respect their parents, or themselves. The entire world is going in the wrong direction. We're all in deep shit !
Perhaps the father wants his son strike back if he was bullied in school? The investigators should interview the friends, classmates to find out if the 14 yr old boy is a depressed kid or with mental issues
I don’t believe in an assault weapons ban at all, but what I do believe is people should be qualified to understand and respect the rifle and the e people around then and be educated before even possessing such an object. I think it’s crazy to own a gun without being educated or being mentally qualified to own a rifle other than that I’m pro 2a but we really need precaution in owning firearms and being better educated.
@@Muzikrazy213 You do realize its not that easy to get a gun. They don't sell them like candy, also look at Chicago they have the strictest gun laws in the us and they still have the most gun crime, some of the most gang violence ete. Gun control does not always work, but maybe they could have fingerprint identification everywhere and run more than 1-3 background checks. Oh and make them take multiple mental health tests and checks.
@@coffe_6969BC criminals in Chicago go to TX to buy their guns! Why? BC TX & the South have no regulations on gun purchases! Use the brain God gave you. Please!
@@coffe_6969 you do realize 66% of the guns that are recovered from crimes in Chicago come from their far less regulated neighbors Wisconsin, Missouri and Indiana, right? And crime ridden California? Oh yeah, 45% of those come from Arizona, Texas, and Nevada! What about Democrat stronghold New York, you ask? EIGHTY ONE PERCENT of those come from Florida, GEORGIA, and South Carolina. When there's no national laws on the books and states are free to rule how they see fit, guns flow freely across state lines with less scrupulosity than certain FOODS.
@@gerihuginnthese things do not happen because of bullying. They happen because American gun culture fetishizes violence and portrays it as a great way to feel powerful
I try’d to speak to my local district about the bullying my son faces but they have a definition for bullying if it is not occurring consecutively and it’s not obvious then it’s not considered “bullying”in that case you get a letter denying your claims and stating you are wrong because they did a “investigation”
daveclark8337 Meh. Probably a PHIZER parent. Most of these freaks are heavily medicated. Like most Americans… you’re all on pills and you give em to your kids. You have a pharmaceutical problem, not a gun problem. ✌🏻🇺🇸🍺 Trump24’
Well it could not be any more clear that YOU are not in your right mind!! There is NO such thing as a so called "assault rifle"!!!!!!! illiterate incompetent morons!
Two parents who provided the murder weapon in a previous case were both found guilty. They not only provided it, but then neglected to ensure it was properly locked. This parent is complicit.
Sad. People need to learn more about kindness and respect. If we treat and raise kids properly with good example, it would reduce their chance of getting into trouble or harming others.
I'm glad parents are finally being held accountable. Failure to safely store firearms so that a child or vulnerable adult can't get them is irresponsible ownership. I have young nieces and nephews, keeping them away from my firearms is very important to me - despite the fact that they've never visited my home, my firearms are locked in a safe, the ammunition is in a lockbox in the safe (the ammunition lockbox has a separate key that isn't kept in the safe), and the firearms are also locked with individual trigger locks. We're responsible as adults for keeping kids away from danger - whether it's chemicals being locked up out of reach, power tools being stored properly, or firearms being secured, we have a duty of care. Parents who allow their children to access firearms unsupervised are being grossly negligent and should be charged. If the child isn't receiving help for mental health concerns, that's also negligent (this care should also be free if the parents can't afford it). Not keeping weapons away from children with mental health concerns is possibly one of the most negligent things one can do as a parent/guardian/adult. So if the child goes on to commit an act of violence with that weapon, the adult should absolutely be charged with the same crimes as the child and also charged for their role in how the weapon got into the child's possession. This needs to continue to happen to every single adult who negligently allows a child in their lives to access a weapon (with or without their knowledge, but especially if the weapon was obtained for the child). Charge them with the same crime, with accessory, and/or negligence.
@@danielrafa6122 is that the one where the parents buy their mentally ill child an actual gun? Or is that like a bb gun? Are you cognitively capable of understanding the difference?
I’m so sorry for all the loss of lives and the loved ones who will be missing them and for the family of the shooter and the shooter. What could possibly make someone do horrendous acts. May God hold the community together through this horrific tragedy.
@billgates3388 A BB gun or pellet rifle, sure. Or maybe a 22, with close parental supervision. But, legal or not, an AR-15 is way too much gun for the vast majority of kids that age. Even worse, this particular kid had been investigated for threats. His father knew that. Even if there was insufficient evidence for any legal action, a parent should take that as a warning flag.
@@alanm.4298 I agree that if it was my kid I would have started paying a lot more attention and even spying on his online activity even if there wasn't hard proof. might have stuck with airsoft and paintball and make him wait til he was 18 to buy his own rifle. Still, charging parents for the crimes of their children is a huge change and a dangerous trend.
All I have to say is raise yall kids better. Why raise your child to think violence is the first answer to their problems? Why even give into that type of behavior. This world is sick and only gets sicker each day. Sad.
My dad gifted me a rifle, I gifted my son one as well(same one my dad gave me when I was 12) difference is responsible gun owners don't give our kids unrestricted access to the guns. That rifle is locked up in my safe, and even has the lock put through the action.
@@2l84me8 my son hunts, my son goes to the range with me. It's a hobby it's a bonding experience and teaches him safety in the case he comes across a gun that isn't ours(say at a friends house) I firmly believe kids shouldn't have unrestricted access but not exposing them to firearms in a controlled environment leaves him without the knowledge of what to do in an uncontrolled environment
Extremely common outside of cities. Especially in Southern areas. Kids get them as early as 12. It's so common that there isn't even a age restriction to possess a rifle.
Rich people making laws for other rich people who don't pay taxes, so all we have is money for military, police, politicians, prisons, and bond hunters. There isn't any money for mental health, and we have a dog eat dog survival of the fittest mentality. People are hurting, and they want you to know about it and hurt as well.
I was Born in 1958. My Father bought me my first rifle when I was 12 years old, and bought me a smaller .22 caliber rifle when I was 14 years old. I use both firearms to this day in hunting activities, and in target shooting activities. Never in my school years did I have thoughts of taking my firearms to school to be used to hurt anyone, and never did I ever lose the respect of how dangerous a firearm can be. So what's the difference here? I was 12 years old when my Father gifted me with my first firearm so that I could participate in the upcoming deer hunting season in Pennsylvania, back in 1970. My Father didn't commit any crime by buying me my first firearm, nor did I feel empowered to go and shoot up a school. So what has changed? Not the firearms, not the age range of the people involved; could it be something psychological? What are we doing wrong as parents? What is society doing wrong with our children? Maybe we need to start there to find the answers. Maybe we need to rethink what we feed our children through the content that is available on TV, and the content that is available through Video Games. Those are just two things that have changed in our society since I was a child. Where else do we need to look? How about the family structure? How about drug and alcohol abuse? How about the way we look at life in general? We've mixed all these ingredients together, and baked the cake that we now have in our societal structure. Maybe it's time to change a few of the ingredients? Maybe it's time to face our mistakes? Maybe it's just too late to do anything at this point?
Your lived experience and rhetorical questions will have little to no impact on this societal issue. We're the only country with this amount of assault style weapons per capita and have been trying to fix all the non-gun problems with this issue since Columbine. Just ban guns. It's not like you and your ilk can overthrow the government anyway, they laugh at you nor do they fear you. May as well keep our kids and teachers safe while both parents need to work full time.
@@jamescook7713 A semi automatic weapon a civilian can buy for hunting and home defense and even in some states the right to conceal and carry. A civilion cant buy a fully automatic gun unless they are aproved by the federal or state government and it must be registered just like every other firearm. :edit: I think I started a war sorry everyone. Please be civil
My son made threats last year to his school. I would NEVER buy him a gun now. What was this father thinking? They both belong behind bars. He should have taken the right steps to ensure his kid could never get his hands on a gun.
your son needs therapy and so do you. no CHILD should FEEL so emboldened to MAKE A THREAT at any time anywhere. They dont have bond money, bail money, bill money, lunch money... if there is no respect at home... there is no respect anywhere.
@@niajeannine We did get him in therapy. What do you mean I need therapy? He had a mental breakdown over a breakup with a girlfriend and couldn’t handle it emotionally. Trust me we’ve handled the situation completely fine. I also hope no other parent has to go through what we had to. It’s all around pretty much the worst situation a parent could ever have to deal with 👍. But yeah thanks for reading into something you know nothing about 👌
@JustinMedina-ro8du The ignorance of those who did not get your comment is astonishing. They cannot understand even the meaning of a few words in English. They must be friends of the "brilliant" guy who started this conversation by making a completely nonsensical remark.
the 2nd amendment is supported by both parties... not one person.. its in the constitution... take a peek at it and while ya at it see who signed it... I can tell you Trump did not sign it. and he and his kids aren't running around killing innocent people with their guns...
@@chrishnahhe would still be held accountable as he bought the firearm after learning about his son's threats. That is giving a dangerous person the very thing they need to do what they were threatening to do. It's enabling
@@chrishnahhe was beyond negligent and contributed to it. It would be a whole different case if it was locked up and the kid sanded through the lock or similar, but he gave it to his kid who he knew had issues. Reminds me of Exodus 21 where it says if an ox kills someone, it can be deemed an accident and that ox is killed, but if the ox killed someone because the owner was negligent, for example he knew it was a dangerous ox and was negligent to not take the precautions to keep it confined to prevent it from killing someone, both the ox and the owner are guilty of that death
I'm glad that negligent father is being charged. His son was literally investigated for posting threats to shoot up a school and then months later he gets his son a gun?! Just disgusting. 😒
Teach children decent morals, get them health/mental care, DON’T buy them weapons. Cases against parents will be dismissed when the kid does something stupid. Decent parents should NOT be charged when kids choose a criminal path themselves. Neglectful parents SHOULD be charged for NOT dissuading a child’s criminal conduct, NOT seeking help for the child, NOT calling the cops on their own kid.
As a former school administrator I have dealt with many students like the one in Georgia before. It is common for some boys in particular to get obsessed with weapons. I would meet with the parents to coordinate and discuss the situation and see what the school could do to help. Like the law enforcement people in Georgia I would help work out a safety plan with the parent at home to ensure the student had no access to weapons. Sometimes this included working through PARENT DENIAL of a real problem with their child. If there were other issues I would try to refer parents to outside resources for help with mental health, housing, food, etc.. I required these types of students to meet counseling staff who were assigned to greet students at the entrance of the school each morning, go to a private office where I would search them and their backpack for weapons. This was also a consistent time to check in with them about life in general - make sure they are doing ok if things at home are rocky and make sure they are not targeted by bullying at school. If they were being bullied I would immediately hold the bullies responsible and call their parents to enlist their support as a team to correct them. These "high at-risk" students are in all our schools. In a school of 1000 students I might have as many as 3 who I searched for weapons daily before they attended classes. The more positive attention we give them the better. Law enforcement will NOT provide this kind of supervision and care. I urge law enforcement to coordinate with schools whenever they can. Also, I read that this student had recently transferred in from another school. I always held students out for a day or two in order to check with the previous school about any special needs. Students who transfer schools are often in need of special support and we do them no service by entering them into a school without a thorough understanding of their background and any challenges that might come with that background. I used what is called a "wrap-around approach" to serving high at-risk students. We might have a team with as many as 10 adults "wrapping our arms around a student." This included parents, teachers, counselors, school administrators, community-based mental health professionals, law enforcement, CPS, physicians, employers, and after school program providers. The biggest emphasis in such an approach is to build CLOSE, SUPPORTIVE RELATIONSHIPS with the child and the family. "Blame" was not the focus, but rather "seek to understand" and bring more resources to the family to help. These approaches work. They keep students supported and schools safe.
14 years old is well old enough to learn how to be a responsible gun owner. The age and the gun aren’t the problem. The problem is parents and schools that don’t teach kids how to control their emotions and not act out like 4 year olds. “No child is special. You are not unique. Your perspective doesn’t matter. Shut your mouth. Follow the rules and conform.” But that’s not what “modern” parents and schools teach. No, they teach the opposite… And this is the result.
The kid went to a black school. Do you know what it's like to go to a black school in Atlanta when you are a white kid. God only knows how many years he endured severe bullying. Then the FBI shows up like they do in all of these cases. I'm sure he had a handler who led him into this like the FBI did when the gave a special ed kid a van full of explosives. Look it up
Children are dead and a lot of the comments are worried about how the news labeled the gun as an assault style rifle?? Sad, but I am glad they are holding parents accountable as well now.
I’m sad too that lives were lost and families devastated but we law abiding gun owners are tired of people labeling firearms something they aren’t. I’ve owned an AR-15 for over well over 10 years now and it’s never jumped out of its safe and assaulted anyone. It also has never been gifted to a 14 year old who talks about killing people.
@@georgspence4999 Geo, get your panties outta that bunch. Nobody is coming to take your damn gun, unless you prove unstable mentally, danger to society, and all that. Even if you are, govt works at a snails pace, I’m sure with therapy you might be fit once you lose that paranoia.
@@ghoulishgoober3122 military owns m4 we civilians can’t own M4 or full auto no AR15 is not a assault rifle Google is free my friend look it up before you make dumb comment.😂😂😂😂
Sorry Karen, a weapon of any sort, other than a machine gun, is no weapon of war. ANY INANIMATE object can/would/could can be anything from a pencil, hatchet, rock(Daniel and Goliath), can be used as example of "weapons "of war in some 3rd world countries. Use common sense please.
You're hung up on the rifle. The kid could have done twice as much damage with small .22 pistol. That is my fear. The assault weapon wasn't the problem in this equation. The problem was the parent ignoring the direct warning about his son and not getting his child the help he needed. And yes, buying ANYONY who has been investigated for violent threats ANY gun is incredibly f-ing stupid.
So if I bought my child a car and they used it to kill someone can I be charged? What if I bought my child a baseball bat and they used it to kill someone can I be charged? What if I bought my child a knife and they used it to kill someone can I be charged? Slippery slop seems to me
@@roycewells5071 Actually, NOT facts. It's not the same school or even the same school district where he attended school last year. It was his second day (ever) of high school (new school) in a new school district.
This ill logic loser thinks that once a school expels someone, they magically have a force field surrounding the campus to prevent that specific kid from coming back.
1. That wasn't the school he made threats against. They moved to another district AFTER the F.B.I. questioning. 2. The FATHER bought him an assault rifle AFTER being questioned over threats his son made against a school in a completely different district. You are an idiot and clearly have not been paying attention.
Every parent who owns guns, whether they “teach” their children to shoot or use firearms in the home, every one of them, every day had better fear, every minute, “Where are my guns? where is my ammo? can my child get a hold of my guns from my gun locker?” Until that time, no one in America is safe.
Gun locker is not a real solution; to flimsy. However, a gun safe is, unless the kid has access to a cutting torch. I'm pro 2A but adults need to be responsible with firearms.
We are not safe with that open border. More citizens are being killed my illegals aliens and drugs. Why is Biden and company not charged. He knowingly and willfully is letting them in ,,, inviting them,, and knows that this is killing legal citizens… let’s go there!!!!
gun was in the closet right outside my door loaded, dad was never scared, just because you think everyone is as mentally ill as you are doesnt mean they are
@@timebisvit7719 Well that's nice but what's that got to do with anything? I grew up with guns in the 1970's. Times are different now. Back then we didn't lock doors either. Bad idea to leave guns unsecured. Might get stolen; young child get curious and seriously injured or worse; teenager decides to make a rash decision. Gun safe is better choice for many reasons.
I don’t usually say the father should be charged but this is a degree of negligence that cannot be ignored. This trend should not be normal but there are extenuating circumstances and this is one of them.
And why does the reporter keep referring to “an assault style rifle”? It’s a semiautomatic firearm just like a revolver. It’s capable of doing the same damage. The crime is heinous, just like all such crimes where the lives of innocents are terminated by someone who has obvious mental problems that are not addressed effectively. But the gun did not shoot itself. How was he able to bring it inside the school? Bringing a gun on a plane seems to have been curbed. How about implementing the same inspection equipment in schools until they resolve the root cause of the mental problems. The reporter shows their stupidity and political leaning.
Due to his age he's not eligible for the death penalty! BUT! The two students who he shot got the death penalty and the only thing they did wrong was go to School that day! Doesn't seem fair if you commit adult crimes you should be eligible for adult punishment no matter your age!
Anyone want to tell the reporter that “AR” is abbreviation for ArmaLite not assault rifle? … glad to see parents being held accountable for their poor parenting choices.
It amaze me the level of stupidity and careless of some parents! To give.a.14 year old kid an R15 assault rifle as christmas present! Only in America this happens!
Listen mangey, My Dad bought a rifle for me in 1966 for my sixth birthday. I still have it. Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Military retired.
Because it is exploiting another terrible incident involving loss of life to get the public outraged towards gun ownership. like yeah we got it after the 10th time.. It was an AR-15, they could've just said that or "Rifle", but instead they go out of their way to make it sound more menacing. Regardless R.I.P to the victims, and prayers for their families.
This is what comes of people treating Kyle Rittenhouse as some kind of folk hero. Seriously, why would any responsible adult give a 14 year old a gun as a present? Especially after being questioned by the authorities about threats the kid apparently made?
I mean kyle isnt a hero but hes not a bad guy either, he just simply showed why its good to have a means to protect yourself espically from a crowd of people attempting to attack a 17 year old.
Kyle Rittenhouse used an AR15 to defend himself because he got attacked during a riot and I agree the father still buying a gun for his child after being questioned by the FBI for the online threats is just reckless
@@RobertMoore-ie7dw - Bull! That wasn't even where Rittenhouse lived! He deliberately went there, gun in hand, *looking to HUNT humans!* Just consider your fake scenario and what it says - which is that adults cannot disarm a *child* who has *no* legal right to have a firearm like that! Then you wonder why we have school shootings when you people are advocating for children to have free usage of firearms! He only got off because the judge was acting as his defense attorney!
@@popupheadlights - No, because Rittenhouse didn't even live there! He took that gun and went there on purpose *to HUNT humans!* You people making excuses for him are as guilty in these school shootings as anybody else.
The kid should not have been given the gun, but to be fair, he did not technically "own" it. He cannot, as a juvenile. The father letting him have access to it is the issue, and both should absolutely be held fully accountable.
Depends on the state, in Florida ownership of a gun is absolutely legal for a minor on the exception of it used for sporting or hunting and an adult is present while used. It's not entirely unheard of giving your kid a gun. 20-30 years ago kids showed up to school with a gun since they generally went hunting after class. I believe the problem lies behind mental health problems and parenting as a whole instead of gun control. Given there's more guns than people in this country (founded on the idea of killing tyrants). But the kid was given hormone therapy, bullied, identified as trans, and pushed his own narrative to kill people. So you have an already emotionally unstable 14 year old teenager, going through teenage issues, smack him with hormones that his body rejects and then dismantle himself further by dehumanizing the people around him. I think ultimately his motivation was suicide by cop, (typically the case of mass shooters) but the dumb asshole was too much a coward to not off himself. Now another case of a mental psychopath, and an incompetent police investigation. Schools shouldn't be a place that's unprotected. Ever. Protect. Your. Children
I'm almost 110% sure the father did not ever imagine his son would take that gun and do anything other than hunt with him, so charging him just seems like they are just making a example out of them so that people know to keep an eye on your kids because you will be responsible for what they do with a weapon that you supplied them. And people keep saying why give a 14 year old a gun it's because they are in the country and the family is a hunting family. The dad I'm sure did not THINK nor did he KNOW the boy had murderous intentions, thoughts, or views. Y'all have to use y'all brain. Yes the father should've waited until he was old enough to purchase it in the boys name but again there wasn't a thought in his mind that his son would go shoot up a fckin school.
If the father is being arrested, why isn't the investigation team that looked into this a year ago being charge. Yes, the father purchased the rifle for his son, but did he do it knowing his son would do this? I doubt that. But yes, again, he should be held accountable for leaving the weapon unsecured.
From what I heard, he bought the rifle for him despite being warm by the school that he was sending threats online. So yeah, he knew his kid was potentially gunna shoot the place up, and did nothing to stop it.
Buying a gun for your kid isn't the issue i have bought guns for my boys by that age too . But they was locked up right next to mine they didn't have free access to them.
@@TheFantaBottle Peace and Love to your homeroom. Life gets better sometimes and you will actually have more control on the situations confronting you all, out of school.
Here I sit and wonder if the father was crying for the horrible crime he caused, or just crying out of pity for himself when this is clearly all his fault.
What's an "assault" style rifle? I thought they're called semiautomatic rifle. Next thing you'll tell me "AR"-15 stands for "Automatic Rifle" or "Assault Rifle."
Why would you possibly give an AR to a child who has had murderous ideations…insane!
EXCEPT in Chicago! 😂
@@kennethgriffin-wo2yl source?
US Marines aren't born, they're created.
Why would you trust the FBI to police or have anhthing to do with "responsible gun ownership" when the FBI's own siper shot and killed an unarmed woman holding her infant child at a place called Ruby Ridge?
Also what kind of meds was he on? Most of these freaks are heavily medicated by the same companies that made the fauci ouci 😂🍺
This father was just crazy to give his son an assault rifle AFTER the son made threats and had interviews w the FBI. Just unbelievably negligent.
Really? An assault rifle? Did the firearm pull the trigger on its own or did that sick little bastard make the choice to kill innocent people?
The father was crazy to give his 14 year old kid an assault rifle PERIOD. The kid should have been closely monitored and in mandatory counseling after the threat last year.
Did I miss the part where the rifle had an auto switch? Oh, it was semi-auto? Then its not an assault rifle. Agree with the rest you just sound fucking idiotic when you say assault rifle.
No such thing as an "Assault" Rifle moron
the ar-15 is not an assault rifle, its just a rifle.
At the point the father bought the rifle for his son they had already been questioned about online threats about this very thing so the father is as guilty as the son, and just as stupid.
If I buy you a drink and I going to be charged for your DUI? LOL
@@Polit_Burro Actually yeah. A bartender can get charged if the person says they are going to drive drunk after drinking at your establishment.
@@Polit_Burro Wow!!! Thats one of the dumbest comparisons I ever heard
@Polit_Burro you aren't very smart. I'm willing to bet no one's ever called u smart
@@Polit_Burrowell yes 💀
The one positive is parents now being held accountable as well.
@JustinMedina-ro8duyeah
Agreed. If the parents did something, even unintentionally, to contribute to their child's crime, then they should be held accountable as well.
Arrest transgenders parents as well
Yeah nah. You can’t blame the parents for this
I’m all for 2A, but you don’t buy your son that has mental health issues a friggin AR.
When my dad took me hunting, I didn't get to keep the gun after. It went in the safe after I cleaned it.
I got to keep my guns in my room, but no mags or ammo, that was all locked up in a safe that I didn't have the combination for.
mine went into the closet loaded. so what?
@@teh_MBAsame
I guess he knew you were his son and probably didn't trust you because of his genes.
I was lucky to be raised by a father who didn’t kill animals as entertainment. I’m sorry you weren’t raised with good values. 😢😢😢
I normally withhold judgement of parents whose children commit crimes, but this? This is an atrocious exception.
Horrible parenting
"Settlers' do this all the time to Palestinians in Palestine.
@@Polit_BurroGood
MAGA parenting.
Negative scooter!@@BigKandRtv
@@BigKandRtv shut up
I’m all for guns and teaching kids responsible gun ownership but if my kid gets visited by the FBI he’s long lost that privilege and many more wtf was that “father”thinking
These types of gun nuts believe that by owning a gun they are arming themselves against government tyranny, so a visit from the FBI would just be more evidence of government tyranny in their minds. They use it as an excuse to arm themselves even more.
Same thing the FBI was I guess.
Thank you. I feel like it’s not that hard of concept. The dad should had been red flagged for the visit. I’m a leftist and I’m not anti-gun but common sense.
And to give your kid an AR15 after all that???!!! What was this dad thinking if at all??!
Facts
how in the hell can you justify buying your 14 year old son an assault weapon...
He didnt. He bought him a regular rifle. Assault rifles don't exist.
Americans have been buying their CHILDREN (yes, not even teenager) Rifles for 248 years, stop being so willfully ignorant.
You can't buy assault rifles in the US, only long guns. Assault rifles can only be obtained through either buying a specialized permit that taxes you big time, or by purchasing an old pre-86 one, which costs a lot of money. Only rich people can afford actual assault rifles. The average serf is not allowed to have one.
@@supernovaexpress5241 Oh FFS. He bought his kid WHATEVER gun was obviously not meant for hunting animals but mowing down humans, which is exactly what it was used for.
@@audreymuzingo933 Youre clueless. A hunting rifle and the rifle the kid used are only different in that one is black plastic and the other is wood. They both operate the same. In fact, a hunting rifle usually has a more powerful bullet.
Obviously, this "father" was in some sort of competition with Ethan Crumbly's "father"
Father of Georgia School Shooter Told Police in Newly Released 2023 Audio That ‘Greatest Day’ Was When Son Killed 1st Deer🙄
That's dumb.
@@Jamesxavier-v4x🤷♀️ that’s exactly what I would expect him to say. Why is that a surprise to you?
Nah, just two totally normal gun-obsesssed Americans 🇺🇲🫡🦅
Didn't you hear? This "is just a fact of life." Going to school in America is just a little deadlier than the rest of the world and unfortunately there's just nothing we can do about it.
Maybe he was practicing for a job with the IDF
Your son is 14 years old, he's been under investigation for deadly threats, and you BUY HIM A GUN!? Yeah, no. This isn't a policy issue. This is a horrid parent and mentally disturbed kid issue.
Georgia has next to no red flag laws. Red flag laws could have prevented this.
And bought him a gun and probably had already seen many read flags too.
I don’t see how he gets out of this without going to prison for many years
Mentally disturbed parent clearly too
Agreed! I'm pro 2nd ammendment and I think holding these parents accountable is 100% a step in the right direction. The kid isn't old enough to own a weapon. Would you buy him booze and cigs too. This is bad parenting.
Probably this parent's behavior is in part responsible for this kid mental issues.
Prayer to the victim’s families. What a horrible time they must be going through 😞
Kid gets questioned by the FBI because of posting threats about a possible school shooting. So, naturally, next Christmas daddy buys the child an AR-15. Okay. At some point this parent has 2 stop & say, 'I endorsed aberrant, criminal behavior. I gave my child permission & litteraly put the gun in my child's hands.'
Yeah its definitely strange. The father seems like an average hard working conservative, while the kid seems like the stereotypical.. opposite. I wonder if the media is hiding any manifestos from us like they usually do when the shooter is confused about which bathroom to use.
@@Missunderstood103 The father needs to have some accountability as he bought the gun and did not ensure it was safely locked away. I think he’s facing 180 years… That’s a bit much.
it really hinges on what the FBI actually had that was concrete evidence and what they actually told the father. its not clear from the bodycam video if there was more than rumors or hearsay. he knew the kid was getting picked on so it wouldn't be unreasonable that the bullies would claim the "quiet kid" made threats to further bully him.
that being said I woulda stuck with airsoft or paintball for a few more years but I can understand not treating your own child like a potential murderer without concrete proof.
@@DesertStateInEUthe kid hated that society was accepting trans people, so he was a conservative as well
@@danchen10491 I'll have to see some evidence of this.
These parents who believe it's never gonna happen to them. Well, you bought your kid a gun & he goes out & kills. What can you expect from ignorant, defiant people ? The parents should be charged with murder & sent to jail!
You would think that some type of gun control would prevent this
@@Obex-v2l What kind of law would have prevented this event?
No laws to against giving a weapon to a kid ...... whats needed is for every kid to have a gun,.....,., the other kids should have the freedom to shoot back. guns are a god given right ..... that cannot be taken away...... his age doesnt matter ..... 2nd amendment says nothing about age. i have to agree with JD Vance on this one....... basically he says ...... when you have freedom this is going to happen and we have to live with it,. God bless JD Vance.
@briandwiggins1576 not really a law, but being a decent parent. This "father" wil definitely be getting jail time for all this.
@briandwiggins1576 mandatory classes, tests, licensing and not allowing a minor to access a weapon would have prevented this.
Was he rocking/ whimpering when he purchased those guns???
No. He was being big bad and tough, saying "don't tread on me." 🤦
@@gzus1482I think that school shooter kid was saying the opposite
America is a strange country. Apparently in the USA, a Miller light is too dangerous for anyone under 21, but an AR 15 isn't. Very odd.
America is the only country in the world doing this properly, whether you accept it or not. I'm european and live in the EU, theres 10 european countries that have a higher rate per capita of mass shootings than the US. Look it up "mass shooting rate per capita by country". And thats just compared to the US average. If we break it down to US states you'll see that about half of US states had only 1 or no mass shootings in their entire history. Also, any country that doesn't have the right to own the tools used to ensure self preservation, has no respect for freedom and has no citizens - it has subjects. The US is the only country in the world that actually respects freedom. Europe is a strange place indeed.
@@DesertStateInEUAccording to World Population Review, The highest mass shooting per capita between 2009 and 2015 was in Norway, but; "Norway's world-leading annual rate was due to a single devastating 2011 event, in which far-right extremist Anders Behring Breivik gunned down 69 people at a summer camp on the island of Utøya. Norway had zero mass shootings in 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015." If you think the US is safer than Norway, you probably need to think through your argument.
As it happens I'm european and think responsible adult citizens should have the right to firearms, subject to appropriate regulations.
@@DesertStateInEU It should also be pointed out that if we look at shootings rather than mass shootings, the US is by far the most dangerous high-income country.
@@johnh6524 Wrong. This is exactly why we have rate per capita. Due to norway's low population, if you live there, you have a higher chance of being a victim in a mass shooting than in the US. If you don't understand this, you need to think through your argument.
As it happens you being european while supporting gun ownership yet wanting the government to have anything to do with it, is the reason europe will never be free.
It should also be pointed out that cherry picking your stats when you realize you're losing, is a common tactic and never leads to winning an argument, only to humiliation.
Knowing what happening with you son, and still bought him a gun beats me. 😢😢😢 my condolences to everyone
So,,,,the court decides to try Gray as an adult,BUT,,the death penalty will not be in place!???
Maybe once he turns 18 they could possibly give him the death penalty
That will take care of itself once he's in prison. And I'm guessing it won't be a 'humane' punishment.
Pretty sure you can't legally use the death penalty on a minor regardless whether their crime was serious enough to be tried as an adult.
It's the law. Somebody have trouble with following the law?
This isn’t right, I’m praying for the victims families, i hope they get justice!
Grammar. 😂😂
@@jakefarmstate6730 what, just because they forgot an apostrophe in "victim's"? what are you, a mentally unwell english teacher?
@@jakefarmstate6730 So you don't want justice for the victims, then? Noted.
@@MyNameIsntMaxwell How did you get that from the word "grammar"? You have a big imagination, little man.
@@MyNameIsntMaxwellclown is out here noting people. Get a life.
Parents: "I know what's best for MY child!"
Also parents:
You can't use bad parents, as examples of good parenting. Der. 😂
@@edwardTisk-ix8nj He's using bad parents as examples of bad parents. Since you don't have basic reasoning skills please don't become a parent, good or bad.
Yup
This guy was most likely the "dont tread on me or my freedumbs" parent. 🤦
End gay and transgender violence now
It’s almost like we should take steps to make sure, crazy people don’t get guns.
Explain how that will be done, billy
Cant restrict the bill of rights put armed guards at school
@@jamescook7713I mean, just for STARTERS Mr. "Cook," GA Gov. Brian Kemp has turned down simple "safe storage" law proposals. That's all. If not even THAT can get passed, NOTHING is getting passed and we all go back like nothing happened because "this is just a fact of life."
🇺🇲🇺🇲🫡🦅
The state with the most limited access to guns and most gun control has the highest occurrence of mass shootings(California) we already have means to prevent mentally ill people from obtaining a firearm(it's part of the NICS background check) but rightfully so it requires due process to prove your mentally deficient.
Define “crazy”.
14 is INSANE.
You can give your son a car but they can’t drive it until they’re of age and legally licensed to do so. Yet the common sense argument for regulations seems to baffle everyone. Pretending it’s a full ban vs unregulated situation is a false dichotomy and a stupid position.
Your comment alone is stupid. He’s 14, it’s illegal for him to own the gun. The laws in place already prevent him from owning it. This is exactly why the father is being charged
I used to think exactly like you about 15 years ago. I was also parroting these buzzwords like "common sense" and "sensible" and "safety" and etc. And I was also rolling my eyes when I saw somebody say they're going for an outright ban on all firearms. Then I noticed a few patterns and realized I was completely wrong. They're going for an outright ban, we give an inch they'll try to take a mile, so we wont give anything, in fact its time to take back all the miles lost and start protecting kids the same way we protect banks.
@@DesertStateInEU sorry for your loss. Our mental capabilities decline as we age, but it’s big of you to admit it.
@@Pyramanager whoosh
@@flipgroove I'm sorry to hear about your mental illness. I hope you get well soon, until then please stay away from crowds, concerts, airports, schools, churches, and cinemas.
Parents have drop the ball with raising their kids!!
Thank you !
It all starts and ends, at HOME !
Be involved in your kids lives.
Pay attention to everything they're doing.
Teach them.
It's so much easier to send them to school, let schools, our government, the internet and video games, raise your kids.
It's easier to blame someone else.
I'm sorry, but the generation after mine, born in early 70s, ...
Most don't know what it is to raise a kid.
They have a baby, push responsibilities of on everyone else. Then, blame someone else for their kids actions.
Kids don't even know what it is to work for something anymore.
How to respect others, let alone respect their parents, or themselves.
The entire world is going in the wrong direction.
We're all in deep shit !
Giving an 14 year old such a weapon is really sad. I'm an avid 2nd amendment supporter, but common sense has got to be used.
Perhaps the father wants his son strike back if he was bullied in school? The investigators should interview the friends, classmates to find out if the 14 yr old boy is a depressed kid or with mental issues
Apparently it isn't common sense considering there is no age restriction in Georgia. Many kids get rifles for birthdays and Christmas as early as 12.
@@annmarie6001 strike back by giving him a gun? Are you stupid
I don’t believe in an assault weapons ban at all, but what I do believe is people should be qualified to understand and respect the rifle and the e people around then and be educated before even possessing such an object. I think it’s crazy to own a gun without being educated or being mentally qualified to own a rifle other than that I’m pro 2a but we really need precaution in owning firearms and being better educated.
The second ammendment is an outdated piece of paper. No longer should we allow our kids to be killed because people like you want expensive toys
We should have licenses to be parents.
but.....no bars for access to carry killing machines, right? That would be ABSURD
@@Muzikrazy213 You do realize its not that easy to get a gun. They don't sell them like candy, also look at Chicago they have the strictest gun laws in the us and they still have the most gun crime, some of the most gang violence ete. Gun control does not always work, but maybe they could have fingerprint identification everywhere and run more than 1-3 background checks. Oh and make them take multiple mental health tests and checks.
@@coffe_6969BC criminals in Chicago go to TX to buy their guns! Why? BC TX & the South have no regulations on gun purchases! Use the brain God gave you. Please!
@@tringuyen7519hmm 😮
@@coffe_6969 you do realize 66% of the guns that are recovered from crimes in Chicago come from their far less regulated neighbors Wisconsin, Missouri and Indiana, right? And crime ridden California? Oh yeah, 45% of those come from Arizona, Texas, and Nevada! What about Democrat stronghold New York, you ask? EIGHTY ONE PERCENT of those come from Florida, GEORGIA, and South Carolina. When there's no national laws on the books and states are free to rule how they see fit, guns flow freely across state lines with less scrupulosity than certain FOODS.
Is there even a protocol for kids who are being picked on or do the schools actually want this sort of thing to keep happening?
Yes their policy is wait for victim to retaliate then expell the one that was getting bullied
@@danielrafa6122 Exactly
@@danielrafa6122 Crybully politics
@@gerihuginnthese things do not happen because of bullying. They happen because American gun culture fetishizes violence and portrays it as a great way to feel powerful
I try’d to speak to my local district about the bullying my son faces but they have a definition for bullying if it is not occurring consecutively and it’s not obvious then it’s not considered “bullying”in that case you get a letter denying your claims and stating you are wrong because they did a “investigation”
What parent in their right mind gives an assault rifle to a troubled 14 year old high school student?
An NRA parent.
AR stands for armalite rifle
daveclark8337
Meh. Probably a PHIZER parent. Most of these freaks are heavily medicated. Like most Americans… you’re all on pills and you give em to your kids. You have a pharmaceutical problem, not a gun problem. ✌🏻🇺🇸🍺
Trump24’
Well it could not be any more clear that YOU are not in your right mind!!
There is NO such thing as a so called "assault rifle"!!!!!!! illiterate incompetent morons!
Assault rifles are automatic.
Back in my day, fathers bought their kids foam dart guns, paint ball guns, and super soakers.
Welcome to my childhood: Assault rifles, Bowie knives, shotguns, grenades, RPGs
Two parents who provided the murder weapon in a previous case were both found guilty. They not only provided it, but then neglected to ensure it was properly locked. This parent is complicit.
Sad. People need to learn more about kindness and respect. If we treat and raise kids properly with good example, it would reduce their chance of getting into trouble or harming others.
I'm glad parents are finally being held accountable.
Failure to safely store firearms so that a child or vulnerable adult can't get them is irresponsible ownership. I have young nieces and nephews, keeping them away from my firearms is very important to me - despite the fact that they've never visited my home, my firearms are locked in a safe, the ammunition is in a lockbox in the safe (the ammunition lockbox has a separate key that isn't kept in the safe), and the firearms are also locked with individual trigger locks.
We're responsible as adults for keeping kids away from danger - whether it's chemicals being locked up out of reach, power tools being stored properly, or firearms being secured, we have a duty of care. Parents who allow their children to access firearms unsupervised are being grossly negligent and should be charged. If the child isn't receiving help for mental health concerns, that's also negligent (this care should also be free if the parents can't afford it). Not keeping weapons away from children with mental health concerns is possibly one of the most negligent things one can do as a parent/guardian/adult. So if the child goes on to commit an act of violence with that weapon, the adult should absolutely be charged with the same crimes as the child and also charged for their role in how the weapon got into the child's possession.
This needs to continue to happen to every single adult who negligently allows a child in their lives to access a weapon (with or without their knowledge, but especially if the weapon was obtained for the child). Charge them with the same crime, with accessory, and/or negligence.
Nothing says "Its Jesus' Birthday," like buying a gun for a child.
You ever see "A Christmas Story"
Guns are a LEGAL commodity.
@@danielrafa6122the movie about the AR-15 BB gun? Sure, we all saw that one!
@@danielrafa6122 is that the one where the parents buy their mentally ill child an actual gun?
Or is that like a bb gun?
Are you cognitively capable of understanding the difference?
I’ll bet by 14 I had several guns in our cabinet. All my schoolmates made it. Has nothing to do with age…..
bro imagine not being able to go to school safe
It is now the reality.
@@Qawsedge sadly
@@Riha-w2i I’m invested and this scares the 💩out of me more than anything else. Keep our children safe FFS!
It’s safe as long as the government doesn’t purposefully create a mass shooting scenario by knowing in advance and still letting them happen
I’m so sorry for all the loss of lives and the loved ones who will be missing them and for the family of the shooter and the shooter. What could possibly make someone do horrendous acts. May God hold the community together through this horrific tragedy.
The father deserves to be charged... 14 years old is way too young to be given a semi-automatic rifle!
it is legal in Georgia for minors to possess rifles.
@billgates3388 A BB gun or pellet rifle, sure. Or maybe a 22, with close parental supervision. But, legal or not, an AR-15 is way too much gun for the vast majority of kids that age.
Even worse, this particular kid had been investigated for threats. His father knew that. Even if there was insufficient evidence for any legal action, a parent should take that as a warning flag.
@@alanm.4298 I agree that if it was my kid I would have started paying a lot more attention and even spying on his online activity even if there wasn't hard proof. might have stuck with airsoft and paintball and make him wait til he was 18 to buy his own rifle. Still, charging parents for the crimes of their children is a huge change and a dangerous trend.
Only TWO counts of 2nd degree murder? Are the OTHER two FIRST degree???
No, Daddy death sentence faces 180 years total time. Watch the court hearing.
If people don’t see an issue with a gun being gifted to a child… I just idk what’s going on with this world anymore 😓
Guns are a legal commodity.
No, the rest of the world thinks this is wrong. Only 3rd world countries like USA are okay with this
All I have to say is raise yall kids better. Why raise your child to think violence is the first answer to their problems? Why even give into that type of behavior. This world is sick and only gets sicker each day. Sad.
Not always the parents fault. Sometimes its the bullies fault as well.
The last person who committed a school shooting, last week in Georgia, was a 14 year old boy who’s unhinged dad gave him an AR-15 for Christmas.
Who the hell gives a deadly weapon to their kid as a present?
People gift cars all the time...
My dad gifted me a rifle, I gifted my son one as well(same one my dad gave me when I was 12) difference is responsible gun owners don't give our kids unrestricted access to the guns. That rifle is locked up in my safe, and even has the lock put through the action.
@@popupheadlights I don’t get why any minor needs a gun.
@@2l84me8 my son hunts, my son goes to the range with me. It's a hobby it's a bonding experience and teaches him safety in the case he comes across a gun that isn't ours(say at a friends house) I firmly believe kids shouldn't have unrestricted access but not exposing them to firearms in a controlled environment leaves him without the knowledge of what to do in an uncontrolled environment
Extremely common outside of cities. Especially in Southern areas. Kids get them as early as 12. It's so common that there isn't even a age restriction to possess a rifle.
Rich people making laws for other rich people who don't pay taxes, so all we have is money for military, police, politicians, prisons, and bond hunters. There isn't any money for mental health, and we have a dog eat dog survival of the fittest mentality.
People are hurting, and they want you to know about it and hurt as well.
Hi 😊
Well at least somebody else understands how the system really works.
@@175jfs5
We can call it "functioning disfunction."
Paying to talk to someone is pathetic
What prescription drug was this kid on?
I was Born in 1958. My Father bought me my first rifle when I was 12 years old, and bought me a smaller .22 caliber rifle when I was 14 years old. I use both firearms to this day in hunting activities, and in target shooting activities. Never in my school years did I have thoughts of taking my firearms to school to be used to hurt anyone, and never did I ever lose the respect of how dangerous a firearm can be. So what's the difference here? I was 12 years old when my Father gifted me with my first firearm so that I could participate in the upcoming deer hunting season in Pennsylvania, back in 1970. My Father didn't commit any crime by buying me my first firearm, nor did I feel empowered to go and shoot up a school. So what has changed? Not the firearms, not the age range of the people involved; could it be something psychological? What are we doing wrong as parents? What is society doing wrong with our children? Maybe we need to start there to find the answers. Maybe we need to rethink what we feed our children through the content that is available on TV, and the content that is available through Video Games. Those are just two things that have changed in our society since I was a child. Where else do we need to look? How about the family structure? How about drug and alcohol abuse? How about the way we look at life in general? We've mixed all these ingredients together, and baked the cake that we now have in our societal structure. Maybe it's time to change a few of the ingredients? Maybe it's time to face our mistakes? Maybe it's just too late to do anything at this point?
Your lived experience and rhetorical questions will have little to no impact on this societal issue. We're the only country with this amount of assault style weapons per capita and have been trying to fix all the non-gun problems with this issue since Columbine. Just ban guns. It's not like you and your ilk can overthrow the government anyway, they laugh at you nor do they fear you. May as well keep our kids and teachers safe while both parents need to work full time.
History says otherwise.
Who gives their 14 year old an assault rifle?!
It's not an assault rifle you dumb cuck
"Assault rifle" is a bull ship term made up by the media. This shows how ignorant you are about the subject.
Define "assault rifle".
@@jamescook7713 A semi automatic weapon a civilian can buy for hunting and home defense and even in some states the right to conceal and carry. A civilion cant buy a fully automatic gun unless they are aproved by the federal or state government and it must be registered just like every other firearm. :edit: I think I started a war sorry everyone. Please be civil
@@jamescook7713doesn't matter. A 14 yr. should not be given any type of weapon 🔪 🔫 in this day and age ❗💪
My son made threats last year to his school. I would NEVER buy him a gun now. What was this father thinking? They both belong behind bars. He should have taken the right steps to ensure his kid could never get his hands on a gun.
your son needs therapy and so do you. no CHILD should FEEL so emboldened to MAKE A THREAT at any time anywhere. They dont have bond money, bail money, bill money, lunch money... if there is no respect at home... there is no respect anywhere.
@@niajeannine We did get him in therapy. What do you mean I need therapy? He had a mental breakdown over a breakup with a girlfriend and couldn’t handle it emotionally. Trust me we’ve handled the situation completely fine. I also hope no other parent has to go through what we had to. It’s all around pretty much the worst situation a parent could ever have to deal with 👍. But yeah thanks for reading into something you know nothing about 👌
@@niajeannineyou’re an idiot
Play stupid games win stupid prizes
@JustinMedina-ro8duyou're saying the kids deserved it for going to school?
@JustinMedina-ro8du dumbest thing ever said.
What are you exactly talking about? Your comment makes no sense. What was the stupid game here? And what stupid prize was won?
@JustinMedina-ro8du The ignorance of those who did not get your comment is astonishing. They cannot understand even the meaning of a few words in English. They must be friends of the "brilliant" guy who started this conversation by making a completely nonsensical remark.
Christmas presents? lol this is crazy. American gun control is really bad.
I agree with arresting the father for providing the means to commit this crime especially since this child was already investigated for threats
14 year old boy.. wow I'm so sad for the family that lost someone.. God bless them all.
Guess who this guy votes for?
Trump most definitely
the 2nd amendment is supported by both parties... not one person.. its in the constitution... take a peek at it and while ya at it see who signed it... I can tell you Trump did not sign it. and he and his kids aren't running around killing innocent people with their guns...
If the kids are under 18, charge them & their parents.
If there are 18+, the parents won't be charged.
You are an idiot. Or the most perfect person on this earth… not
If they are charging the Kid as an adult how does it make any sense to charge his dad
@@chrishnahhe would still be held accountable as he bought the firearm after learning about his son's threats. That is giving a dangerous person the very thing they need to do what they were threatening to do. It's enabling
Contributing to the delinquency of a minor vs. accessory to the crime.
@@chrishnahhe was beyond negligent and contributed to it. It would be a whole different case if it was locked up and the kid sanded through the lock or similar, but he gave it to his kid who he knew had issues. Reminds me of Exodus 21 where it says if an ox kills someone, it can be deemed an accident and that ox is killed, but if the ox killed someone because the owner was negligent, for example he knew it was a dangerous ox and was negligent to not take the precautions to keep it confined to prevent it from killing someone, both the ox and the owner are guilty of that death
The USA. Pointless trying to talk sense to them.
are they going to charge the police and FBI for not doing anything?
Of course not otherwise all of uvalde would be in prison by now
Wait until the trial. Georgia doesn't have much in way of gun laws, so not sure what the police and FBI can do.
Charge the police and FBI with what? Not arresting someone who made threatening comments online?
@@poperman3208 they were charged
Based on what law?🤔
I'm glad that negligent father is being charged. His son was literally investigated for posting threats to shoot up a school and then months later he gets his son a gun?! Just disgusting. 😒
Funny how cameras are allowed in this trial...but not gislane Maxwell
thats because ghislane was a federal case i dont think they record those
Teach children decent morals, get them health/mental care, DON’T buy them weapons. Cases against parents will be dismissed when the kid does something stupid. Decent parents should NOT be charged when kids choose a criminal path themselves. Neglectful parents SHOULD be charged for NOT dissuading a child’s criminal conduct, NOT seeking help for the child, NOT calling the cops on their own kid.
Wait.. if he's being charged as an adult. Why is he to young for the DP?
The lad will get plenty of DP in prison.
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@@jamescook7713what is wrong with you
Yo what the hell, taking yourself to prison for a really long time is one awful thing, but taking both your parents with you is a whole other.
His dad was stupid enough to buy him a gun. Parents must be held accountable!
I mean killing 4 people is pretty bad too
Least both of them can live the thug life father and son.
As a former school administrator I have dealt with many students like the one in Georgia before. It is common for some boys in particular to get obsessed with weapons. I would meet with the parents to coordinate and discuss the situation and see what the school could do to help. Like the law enforcement people in Georgia I would help work out a safety plan with the parent at home to ensure the student had no access to weapons. Sometimes this included working through PARENT DENIAL of a real problem with their child. If there were other issues I would try to refer parents to outside resources for help with mental health, housing, food, etc.. I required these types of students to meet counseling staff who were assigned to greet students at the entrance of the school each morning, go to a private office where I would search them and their backpack for weapons. This was also a consistent time to check in with them about life in general - make sure they are doing ok if things at home are rocky and make sure they are not targeted by bullying at school. If they were being bullied I would immediately hold the bullies responsible and call their parents to enlist their support as a team to correct them. These "high at-risk" students are in all our schools. In a school of 1000 students I might have as many as 3 who I searched for weapons daily before they attended classes. The more positive attention we give them the better. Law enforcement will NOT provide this kind of supervision and care. I urge law enforcement to coordinate with schools whenever they can. Also, I read that this student had recently transferred in from another school. I always held students out for a day or two in order to check with the previous school about any special needs. Students who transfer schools are often in need of special support and we do them no service by entering them into a school without a thorough understanding of their background and any challenges that might come with that background. I used what is called a "wrap-around approach" to serving high at-risk students. We might have a team with as many as 10 adults "wrapping our arms around a student." This included parents, teachers, counselors, school administrators, community-based mental health professionals, law enforcement, CPS, physicians, employers, and after school program providers. The biggest emphasis in such an approach is to build CLOSE, SUPPORTIVE RELATIONSHIPS with the child and the family. "Blame" was not the focus, but rather "seek to understand" and bring more resources to the family to help. These approaches work. They keep students supported and schools safe.
14 years old is well old enough to learn how to be a responsible gun owner. The age and the gun aren’t the problem. The problem is parents and schools that don’t teach kids how to control their emotions and not act out like 4 year olds. “No child is special. You are not unique. Your perspective doesn’t matter. Shut your mouth. Follow the rules and conform.” But that’s not what “modern” parents and schools teach. No, they teach the opposite… And this is the result.
The kid went to a black school. Do you know what it's like to go to a black school in Atlanta when you are a white kid. God only knows how many years he endured severe bullying. Then the FBI shows up like they do in all of these cases. I'm sure he had a handler who led him into this like the FBI did when the gave a special ed kid a van full of explosives. Look it up
Worse father, EVER!!!
3 words, and you managed to misspell one. Hahaha cuck
wtf is an assault style rifle? its just a rifle?
Exactly
Children are dead and a lot of the comments are worried about how the news labeled the gun as an assault style rifle?? Sad, but I am glad they are holding parents accountable as well now.
Conservatives care more about guns than kids
I’m sad too that lives were lost and families devastated but we law abiding gun owners are tired of people labeling firearms something they aren’t. I’ve owned an AR-15 for over well over 10 years now and it’s never jumped out of its safe and assaulted anyone. It also has never been gifted to a 14 year old who talks about killing people.
@@georgspence4999The rifle itself can't, but it is very specially built to carry out assaults, as seen in their military use
@@georgspence4999 Geo, get your panties outta that bunch. Nobody is coming to take your damn gun, unless you prove unstable mentally, danger to society, and all that. Even if you are, govt works at a snails pace, I’m sure with therapy you might be fit once you lose that paranoia.
@@ghoulishgoober3122 military owns m4 we civilians can’t own M4 or full auto no AR15 is not a assault rifle Google is free my friend look it up before you make dumb comment.😂😂😂😂
Way to throw gasoline on a fire.
Lane
I bet you this guy probably thought he was one of the “responsible gun owners” like all of them do.
His lawyer better get him a Brooks Brothers haircut. He looks like one of the Manson kids!
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Maybe if more parents are held accountable, they will think twice about buying their kid an assault weapon.
Sorry Karen, a weapon of any sort, other than a machine gun, is no weapon of war. ANY INANIMATE object can/would/could can be anything from a pencil, hatchet, rock(Daniel and Goliath), can be used as example of "weapons "of war in some 3rd world countries. Use common sense please.
Define "assault weapon".
@@jameshunt9208 any object used to inflict pain
You're hung up on the rifle. The kid could have done twice as much damage with small .22 pistol. That is my fear. The assault weapon wasn't the problem in this equation. The problem was the parent ignoring the direct warning about his son and not getting his child the help he needed. And yes, buying ANYONY who has been investigated for violent threats ANY gun is incredibly f-ing stupid.
So if I bought my child a car and they used it to kill someone can I be charged? What if I bought my child a baseball bat and they used it to kill someone can I be charged? What if I bought my child a knife and they used it to kill someone can I be charged? Slippery slop seems to me
Yep
The way Colin got his weapon is the same way Brenda Spencer got hers.
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The school should be held accountable for not expelling that kid after he made the threats
Facts
@@roycewells5071 Actually, NOT facts. It's not the same school or even the same school district where he attended school last year. It was his second day (ever) of high school (new school) in a new school district.
That wouldn’t have a changed a thing bro he can still drive there and commit the crime
This ill logic loser thinks that once a school expels someone, they magically have a force field surrounding the campus to prevent that specific kid from coming back.
1. That wasn't the school he made threats against. They moved to another district AFTER the F.B.I. questioning.
2. The FATHER bought him an assault rifle AFTER being questioned over threats his son made against a school in a completely different district.
You are an idiot and clearly have not been paying attention.
This is a "dont tread on me" father. He's going to have plenty of time in prison to reevaluate that statement. 😞
Every parent who owns guns, whether they “teach” their children to shoot or use firearms in the home, every one of them, every day had better fear, every minute, “Where are my guns? where is my ammo? can my child get a hold of my guns from my gun locker?”
Until that time, no one in America is safe.
Gun locker is not a real solution; to flimsy. However, a gun safe is, unless the kid has access to a cutting torch. I'm pro 2A but adults need to be responsible with firearms.
We are not safe with that open border. More citizens are being killed my illegals aliens and drugs. Why is Biden and company not charged. He knowingly and willfully is letting them in ,,, inviting them,, and knows that this is killing legal citizens… let’s go there!!!!
@@claude9250agree 100%
gun was in the closet right outside my door loaded, dad was never scared, just because you think everyone is as mentally ill as you are doesnt mean they are
@@timebisvit7719 Well that's nice but what's that got to do with anything? I grew up with guns in the 1970's. Times are different now. Back then we didn't lock doors either. Bad idea to leave guns unsecured. Might get stolen; young child get curious and seriously injured or worse; teenager decides to make a rash decision. Gun safe is better choice for many reasons.
if were going down the road to charge parents, why was Thomas Matthew Crooks father not charged with murder and 2 counts of attempted murder?
I don’t usually say the father should be charged but this is a degree of negligence that cannot be ignored. This trend should not be normal but there are extenuating circumstances and this is one of them.
Well i bet this comes down to being bullied in schools
Kevin
Some parents are plain stupid. Another reason why these weapons should be banned- protect us from idiots.
Your father failed
And why does the reporter keep referring to “an assault style rifle”? It’s a semiautomatic firearm just like a revolver. It’s capable of doing the same damage. The crime is heinous, just like all such crimes where the lives of innocents are terminated by someone who has obvious mental problems that are not addressed effectively. But the gun did not shoot itself. How was he able to bring it inside the school? Bringing a gun on a plane seems to have been curbed. How about implementing the same inspection equipment in schools until they resolve the root cause of the mental problems. The reporter shows their stupidity and political leaning.
Due to his age he's not eligible for the death penalty!
BUT!
The two students who he shot got the death penalty and the only thing they did wrong was go to School that day!
Doesn't seem fair if you commit adult crimes you should be eligible for adult punishment no matter your age!
Anyone want to tell the reporter that “AR” is abbreviation for ArmaLite not assault rifle? … glad to see parents being held accountable for their poor parenting choices.
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It amaze me the level of stupidity and careless of some parents! To give.a.14 year old kid an R15 assault rifle as christmas present! Only in America this happens!
No. This happens everywhere. Der.
Ar15 isnt an assault rifle you absolute muffin
It wasn't an assault rifle, it was just a rifle.
DUH!
@@edwardTisk-ix8nj NOT EVERYWHERE! In the rest of the world there are strict laws against weapons, not in America!
We all know that buying a Gun for a kid is stupid..
Santa is giving him iron for Christmas
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@@lauramcelhiney hey now Laura ! Nice genetics ! !
Where Ya from ? Howdy 👋 from d state.
The fact that more people are hung up on the fact that they called the gun an “assault” weapon over anything else is crazy 😂
Exactly. Deflection. Oh, the outrage!
Listen mangey, My Dad bought a rifle for me in 1966 for my sixth birthday. I still have it. Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Military retired.
Bahaha, I thought you were joking, but then I scrolled down. The words selective hearing and priorities come to mind.
ALL guns are assault weapons.
Because it is exploiting another terrible incident involving loss of life to get the public outraged towards gun ownership. like yeah we got it after the 10th time.. It was an AR-15, they could've just said that or "Rifle", but instead they go out of their way to make it sound more menacing.
Regardless R.I.P to the victims, and prayers for their families.
How does a student enter a school building with an AR-15?
With an instrument case. Idk ..
Usual suspects
The usual suspects
So sad. Blessings to those families of the victims killed and injured in this senseless act.
This is what comes of people treating Kyle Rittenhouse as some kind of folk hero. Seriously, why would any responsible adult give a 14 year old a gun as a present? Especially after being questioned by the authorities about threats the kid apparently made?
Hey
I mean kyle isnt a hero but hes not a bad guy either, he just simply showed why its good to have a means to protect yourself espically from a crowd of people attempting to attack a 17 year old.
Kyle Rittenhouse used an AR15 to defend himself because he got attacked during a riot and I agree the father still buying a gun for his child after being questioned by the FBI for the online threats is just reckless
@@RobertMoore-ie7dw - Bull! That wasn't even where Rittenhouse lived! He deliberately went there, gun in hand, *looking to HUNT humans!*
Just consider your fake scenario and what it says - which is that adults cannot disarm a *child* who has *no* legal right to have a firearm like that! Then you wonder why we have school shootings when you people are advocating for children to have free usage of firearms!
He only got off because the judge was acting as his defense attorney!
@@popupheadlights - No, because Rittenhouse didn't even live there! He took that gun and went there on purpose *to HUNT humans!* You people making excuses for him are as guilty in these school shootings as anybody else.
The kid should not have been given the gun, but to be fair, he did not technically
"own" it. He cannot, as a juvenile. The father letting him have access to it is the issue, and both should absolutely be held fully accountable.
Depends on the state, in Florida ownership of a gun is absolutely legal for a minor on the exception of it used for sporting or hunting and an adult is present while used. It's not entirely unheard of giving your kid a gun. 20-30 years ago kids showed up to school with a gun since they generally went hunting after class. I believe the problem lies behind mental health problems and parenting as a whole instead of gun control. Given there's more guns than people in this country (founded on the idea of killing tyrants). But the kid was given hormone therapy, bullied, identified as trans, and pushed his own narrative to kill people. So you have an already emotionally unstable 14 year old teenager, going through teenage issues, smack him with hormones that his body rejects and then dismantle himself further by dehumanizing the people around him. I think ultimately his motivation was suicide by cop, (typically the case of mass shooters) but the dumb asshole was too much a coward to not off himself. Now another case of a mental psychopath, and an incompetent police investigation. Schools shouldn't be a place that's unprotected. Ever. Protect. Your. Children
"Have yourself a merry little Christmas. Let the hallow points spray."-Hillbilly Holiday Classics
Conservatives - "Leave our guns alone!!!!" Also Conservatives - "Why didn't the FBI do anything to get his gun"???
Mike
You're lying. Conservatives don't shoot up schools or trust FBI idiots. Godless atheists/leftists do.
Selfish gun owners who only care when the bullet hits home.
They care more about their rights ,than their own kids safety or yours.
Usual Suspects
I'm almost 110% sure the father did not ever imagine his son would take that gun and do anything other than hunt with him, so charging him just seems like they are just making a example out of them so that people know to keep an eye on your kids because you will be responsible for what they do with a weapon that you supplied them. And people keep saying why give a 14 year old a gun it's because they are in the country and the family is a hunting family. The dad I'm sure did not THINK nor did he KNOW the boy had murderous intentions, thoughts, or views. Y'all have to use y'all brain. Yes the father should've waited until he was old enough to purchase it in the boys name but again there wasn't a thought in his mind that his son would go shoot up a fckin school.
So are parents of minors that do gangster style mass shootings, like a drive by getting arrested as well?
What you love is what you protect. A society that loves guns more than its children has reached a terrible milestone in history.
If the father is being arrested, why isn't the investigation team that looked into this a year ago being charge. Yes, the father purchased the rifle for his son, but did he do it knowing his son would do this? I doubt that. But yes, again, he should be held accountable for leaving the weapon unsecured.
What do you think they should be charged with?
From what I heard, he bought the rifle for him despite being warm by the school that he was sending threats online.
So yeah, he knew his kid was potentially gunna shoot the place up, and did nothing to stop it.
He bought a gun for his Kid after being investigated for making threats?They were right to file charges against him.
Buying a gun for your kid isn't the issue i have bought guns for my boys by that age too .
But they was locked up right next to mine they didn't have free access to them.
Full AR as a Christmas present is nuts
What is a "full" AR??? Did it eat???
You can't owna. Full ar genius
@@vincentsgaming Anyone can legally own a full auto M-16. Buy it through a Class 3 dealer. Pay about 30 thousand dollars.
@@jamescook7713 yes only rich ppl with $20k-$100k with special licenses and extra background checks cam gave em. But it's rare.
@@vincentsgaming I live in Georgia. I know many people with Class 3 weapons.
My homeroom had a talk about this.
And to be honest.
This generation, has all sorts of things happening.
@@TheFantaBottle Peace and Love to your homeroom. Life gets better sometimes and you will actually have more control on the situations confronting you all, out of school.
Here I sit and wonder if the father was crying for the horrible crime he caused, or just crying out of pity for himself when this is clearly all his fault.
What's an "assault" style rifle? I thought they're called semiautomatic rifle. Next thing you'll tell me "AR"-15 stands for "Automatic Rifle" or "Assault Rifle."
Irrelevant debate Lord
@@Obex-v2lNo, actually it is not irrelevant.
AR means ARMALITE RIFLE.
Yup. I have an AR, but it's def not a fully-auto assault rifle.
People like like lisa in the comments are actually dumb enough to call an ar15 a machine gun